/v/ - Video Games

>>14739428

Threadly reminder that Source is the only engine worth developing in.

What's procedure for tomorrow? New bread for the demo? What time does it start?

>>14739494

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/demo-days

I don't know if anyone's organized for it this time. It was pretty rushed in February. Perhaps we should start an organization bread in /agdg/ to keep it organized? Then prepare some demos who get in before the actual thread post time.

>>14739580

>removing a fully functioning software renderer is equivalent to implementing one in a new game to support 20 year old computers

Just stick with OpenGL 3.3, it's fine.

>>14739494

just updated the dd page with a bit more concise info. it should be clearer now

>>14739580

What a cuntbag. Also doesn't know a thing about Linux apparently. It's people like that that hold software back, ironically.

>>14739564

If it's easy to add, just dew it tbh. Otherwise it's probably a waste of time, almost everything that would be used for games has at least a shitty integrated graphics card. Funny that you mention it, I had a stupid crackpot and eternal engine dev idea that might require software rendering.

>>14740295

Come up with an idea for a game that you want to make, preferably something that hasn't been done, hasn't been done in a long time or isn't being done often enough in your opinion. It provides great motivation to actually make a game.

Then come back, lurk, learn through osmosis and direct questions, and just fucking do it.

>>14740295

Figure out what you want to make. Then drop that and make something simple. Make several simple things before you start trying to make want you want.

>>14740311

whats considered simple

mario 64?

>>14740318

Pong, usually. A simple top down shooter. Simple one screen platformer. Arkanoid.

I personally don't agree with this way of doing things, but most other anons do so I won't talk you out of it. I just find it hard to learn from a project I don't care about.

>>14740351

>>14740325

yeah okay now how do i learn programming

>attempted c++ via reading book but i gave up, mostly because it taught visual studio over an engine and i didn't understand much

>followed guides but once i finished something i realised i knew jack shit

programming may not be for me though, I'm way too bad at math

>>14740375

Once again, I'm sure anons will disagree with me, but I just type into a search engine [Engine/Language] how to implement [feature] and read.

I assume you'll use some sort of existing engine, so you can start with their existing tutorials and documentation, or download free example games and read the code, fuck about with it and see what changes.

>programming may not be for me though, I'm way too bad at math

It's more logic than math, really. You just need problem solving. Figure out how to implement a feature in the most efficient way possible, and if that's too hard, just implement it in a way that it would function. Math is useful, and at times you can't escape it, but once again, most times, you'll find tutorials that already tell you what to do, step by step, so the math will be minimal.

>>14740375

most of what you learn in math in college (all the way up to physics) is just a formal process, you can even teach a nigger if you're dedicated enough. Try taking some actual math classes and get a feel for it.

Good luck for tomorrow anons. I've got no updated demo for this demo day because I fell down the hole of re-implementing things and feature creep.

>>14740401

They're great for making people comfortable with math if they're too stupid to self-teach

>>14740406

the issue is that I fall asleep too fast when doing math

>>14740411

If you can't focus on something difficult for even 50 minutes at a time, you need to take better care of your body

>>14740375

You really don't need to be amazing at math to do programming, it's mostly about logic and being able to visualize how things work– then translating that mental logic to code logic. If you aren't a dumb motherfucker and know how to use a calculator you'll be fine. If you are a dumbfuck like me start with something simple like Python or Lua. Godot is a great place for beginners to start because it has a robust 2D toolset that uses a scripting language nearly identical to python so you can have fun seeing results immediately with simple code.

Vid related is what I started with ages ago.

>>14739666

Nice trips.

I can't do with any more crunching, I've built my demo and uploaded it to mega, bring on the demo day I say.

>>14740419

I draw for 4 hours straight whenever I decide to git gud

>>14740424

people over here sometimes dev for 12-16 hours straight.

>>14740668

That's me, plus doing it again immediately after waking up, and repeating for several days until giving up completely for a month

>>14740424

4 hours of drawing isn't really that much.

Also in regards to learning, you might want to consider C# instead since that's supported by Unity and Godot.

>>14740687

>Unity

>>14740687

>>14740668

I have a pizza in the fridge, but I'm too busy to eat it. I'm so close to a break in which I can take some time to watch some bad anime and eat, though. Been working mostly nonstop for about 8 hours now.

>>14740695

>godot

>>14740721

yeah both are memes

>>14740699

>>14740687

doing good, bros. Take notes, 03563b. I guess the answer to your question

>>14740295

>whats step 1 to just like make game

is to become passionate about making vidya, do all in your power to learn and spend all the time you can on it.

The colors used for the demo day art are:

>Blue Winter

>Green Spring

>Yellow Summer

>Brown Fall

Why not use red for Fall, which is the color of changing leaves, and also the final color of the /agdg/ logo?

>>14740785

I don't know anything about Gundam, sorry.

>>14740695

>says the newbie asking for advice

any engine has its flaws, and it's strengths.

unity is just meme'd on bcs it's so easy to use the assets on the asset store to just shit out a game, so it gets a bad rep bcs of the damn pajeets, but it's actually a really solid engine.

For example, unity has the best docs of any mainstream engine, while UE has some of the worst docs of any mainstream engine.

UE has some of the best visual programming tools for C++/shaders of any mainstream engine, and unity has [experimental] visual programming for only shaders.

>>14740703

definitely this

>>14740422

that got me thinking.

maybe we should just make the demo day thread on /agdg/ early; as I'm definitely not going to be up at 12am tonight.

This is so anons don't need to stay up to post their demos, and also since that thread will be linked in the /v/ demo day thread; the sleepy devs won't have to worry either.

>>14740424

i dev'd for 36 hours mostly straight the other night (took time to eat/coffee), 4 hours is nothing.

slept for a good 10 hours after that though

>>14740764

good idea, u should do it

>>14739500

You're killing me.

>>14740793

>maybe we should just make the demo day thread on /agdg/ early; as I'm definitely not going to be up at 12am tonight.

Yeah. I'm not sure what exact time Demo Day will be posted in /v/, so it'd be really wise to have some anons organize it now. If no one else does, I guess I'll take a crack at it. Any takers?

>>14740806

go for it. Can't wait to play all your games

>>14740793

What if we made the thread now on /agdg/, and then just have Mark make a locked sticky pointing to that thread in particular?

Dunno

>>14740864

I think we tried that 11/11 and failed somewhat. your call. I can sticky the demo day thread on /agdg/ but don't have such powers here.

>>14740806

Alright. I'll start an organization topic in /agdg/ once I finish off this leftover pizza of game development achievement.

>>14740806

as u know, i'm down, adding another (you)

make sure and read the updated guide b4 making

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/demo-days

>>14740864

pretty good idea, but as this anon mentioned >>14740872 it doesn't quite work as envisioned.

>>14740872

legit

>>14740877

kek, sounds good

>>14740864

>What if we made the thread now on /agdg/, and then just have Mark make a locked sticky pointing to that thread in particular?

asked Mark, he'd prefer us to make the thread on 05/05 US time but he'll sticky whenever

>>14740900 (checked)

no worries

the only early part was making the demo day thread on /agdg/. as it'll be less of a rush, and hopefully more organized than past threads.

the /v/ demo day thread stuff will go as scheduled (on 5/5 at 12am).

>>14740910

wow, we already have an early entry in the progress general

>>14741007

here u go, suiting img

>>>/agdg/31455

>>14741012

Soory, I don't crosslink often.

>>14741001

>shoot downvotes

It'll be a bannin if they don't participate in the demoday thread

>>14741049

kek. i'm pretty sure the bullying will make them leave, and especially so if they post in the /v/ DD thread.

oh boy will that be a laugh

>started developing a shitpost Demo Day entry on a whim yesterday

>realized I didn't have enough time to finish it properly

Sorry guys. I'll try to finish it sometime but I have to practice artfagging a little more first.

>>14741025

The great thing about FF games (5, 7, 12, and Tactics in particular) is that they've been meticulously combed through on Gamefaqs and usually have indepth mechanic guides that has all the formulas.

It's pretty easy to get a hang of how your stats should interact, once you're more familiar with math. Path of Exile is also a good source, sometimes.

>>14740923

>Good jew

There is no such thing and have fun in the death camps when /pol/ leads the incels to victory.

>>14741082

Yeah, JRPG autism is a powerful tool. It always shocks me to see just how ludicrously indepth the FF7 guides are.

>>14741025

It took me some time to wrap my head around how to make a nice exp curve for leveling amongst other things. One resource that was kind of nice for getting started for me was https://www.davideaversa.it/gamedesign-math-rpg-level-based-progression/

I'm still pretty new to the concept, but I was able to make an exp curve and a diminishing return stat investment algorithm with this kind of stuff.

>>14741137

Oh shit, thanks Anon.

>>14741180

Remember the six million in tax fraud, goyim.

>>14741137

One curve I like is X/(X+N). It ranges between 0..1 and never quite reaches 1. You can basically use it as a normalized function / multiplier against something else. It also starts pretty quick then levels off pretty smoothly.

>>14741323

I always wonder how many sales those things actually get. It can't be much but if doing that makes money I can't really blame them.

>>14741356

it would be reasonable at something like $1 to $5, but that's about it; $15 for the equivalent of this code >>14741323 is just being a scumbag

>>14741974

>>14741962

>those brief glimpses of horror when she momentarily realized her life is a lie

>>14741976

kind of looks like "here comes the rape" to me

I'm uploading my buggy builds. It's a big primitive, but hey whatever. It's a build.

>>14741962

Blender bone + shapekey animation? If you have any resources on that, I'd like to see. Some of our models use shapekeys for face stuff, but doing animations in Unity for that while doing bone animations in Blender is kind of tedious and annoying and ideally avoidable entirely.

>>14741975

Don't try and replicate 2.5D FPSes through software rendering. Just use OpenGL and fake the no-pitch distortion. You'll get much better performance, save time and won't be designing features around outdated ideals.

>>14742025

I don't have any resources on it. I simply Googled how stuff works and read the docs. For me animating bone animations with shape key animations is not tedious. Just make an action for the skeleton and a shape key editor action for the head mesh. I like to work on one part of the animation at a time so I usually animate the skeleton first and then hop over to the blend shape animation. Never both at the same time. But I was referring to the wonkyness of the animation workflow for how Unity binds animations to meshes. I'll be writing up in my thread diary later about the specific technical aspects.

Happy Demo Day everyone! Show me the games.

>>14742061

The official demo day topic will go live within the next 20 minutes. From there, hopefully, people will post their demos. There wasn't much coming in on the prep topic for that.

>>14741974

Check Dood and Douk Nouk 2.5D source codes, fam, for the later see software rendering in EDuke32, because OG Build has it written in ASM. http://dukeworld.duke4.net/eduke32/synthesis/

Dood is 99% C so you do not need looking into source ports for that.

>>14742030

Fuck off Graf Zahl.

>>14741293

That's a shame, I was really looking forward to playing.

Can I be a part of agdg if i jus post what page of concepts, techniques and models of computer prog by peter n haridi my niggi in bread?

agdg you are my family. you give support, i tell you game is shit. fair. feed me (You), i feed you (Shit). fair. may b gud additional vices too

>>14742126

>forgetting the anchor post

>>14742771

This looks amazingly comfy.

>>14739567

>>14739564

I don't have a graphics card while using a potato pc. I'm likely just an outlier among a small group these days. Don't know for sure about that, though.

I'm developing my own pixelshit game that uses software rendering for obvious reasons.

>>14741962

to make animated expressions, you just had to create a new animation asset and make blendshape keyframes, right?

>>14742633

Soory. I misread that the anchor post was for the prep topic but didn't get it was for /v/'s too until it was too late. Hopefully someone a little more attentive can handle creating this stuff next time. I only really took it since no one else did.

>>14740687

>4 hours of drawing isn't really that much

I'd like to think it is because I'm not a NEET and construction work fucks my shit up

>>14742383

Past builds are always there. But on the plus side, I'm getting closer and closer to being done, and the next build will have things like music and a lot more sound. Its going to feel MUCH mire complete. So the next time you see new content it should be pretty exciting. Consider the lack of demo this time to be making the next one even better

How do I find a partner to make my game with? I can't stay interested when I'm doing it by myself.

>>14744484

What can you do?

>>14744484

money

>>14744484

>How do I find a partner to make my game with?

its easier to make their game. then guilt them into helping you.

>>14744554

Everything. I'm a sysadmin, so I can handle website infrastructure/setting up git repo/etc. I can do the programming for anything that would be in the scope of a video game. I'm a relatively talented musician. My weakest point is art but I still manage; just takes me longer to create assets equivalent to that of a dedicated artist.

>>14744697

I suggested this to another anon in the last thread, but I might as well just repeat myself cause it's always useful.

You can find a lot of artists on twitter. Your best bets for that is to check #pixel_dailies (https://twitter.com/hashtag/pixel_dailies?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash) or #zbrush (https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=%23zbrush&src=typd) hashtags.

In both of these you will find talented artists. At that point it's just really a question of looking at their profiles to see if they're fags or not and contacting them with an offer to collaborate 50%-50%.

If they ask you money for assets, GET THE FUCK OUT. If a non-professional artist asks you for money that's a huge red flag, and it will most likely not be worth it. Find someone that is clearly interested in working in games and create a mutually beneficial collaboration, there's enough artists that you will eventually find someone that will agree to that.

>>14744697

>setting up git repo

How is that worth mentioning? You sound like a pajeet trying to pad his portfolio. typical sysadmins

>>14742856

No. I animated it in Blender and imported that animation. Manually doing blendshape animations in Unity is for very specific purposes.

>>14744865

I mean self-hosting the site and server for the git repo; Github is a cancer.

>>14744865

half the people working on games in this thread dont even know what git or version control is let alone know how to manage a project

Holy fuck goddamn am I tired and demoralized

>>14746844

Tell us what's troubling you, anon. Maybe I can give you advice.

>>14747215

Github is cancer, hence why anons tend to use gitgud or set up their own server. Which, I'm fairly sure the setting up a git server well and securely is a bit more of an involved process than half the people sperging out at the "I can set up git" anon realize. Unless you use gitlab, that's pretty retard-proof.

>>14744606

>>14744815

So if someone has the money to put together an amateur team, where would he find people who can help?

>>14748034

Gotta actually go out and meet people and see who's worth picking up.

>>14748140

>>14747215

Don't you dipshits realize git != github? And that github is hard left, just like every other large software corporation?

>>14748180

>1 comment on the matter = autistic sperging

Projection at its finest.

>>14748180

>The moment they remove any software for any reason whatosever people will be leaving in droves, so it will never ever happen.

It already did reterd.

>>14748180

>>14748180

This happened many times.

>>14748185

>>14748190

[citation needed]

>>14748192

>>>/webm/5637

>Needing to be spoonfed

https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/765341261347848193

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118

https://mobile.twitter.com/FartToContinue/status/518187099561156608

But honestly, even with Github out of the picture git on its own is pure cancer. Source control should be something mundane and simple yet git turns it into an autistic over engineered clusterfuck. Plastic is SCM made specifically for game development and it works far better.

>>14748207

Thanks dad, I have a job and couldn't be here to defend my anonymous internet rep from the autistic hordes.

>>14748214

This is true. Very, very few people are willing to learn a new VCS just to work on a new game project though.

>>14747929

>implying basic programming or resource handling is difficult

>trivializing system administration

Write us an essay on how you'd go about installing and securing a Debian or CentOS server so that it's safe to be public-facing on ports 22, 80, and 443 at the minimum. Detail what git server software with a functioning and actually usable frontend you'd choose and why as well as the steps you'd have to take to install it. Then tell us how you'd secure it while not putting undue stress on those that have to access it by requiring something as extreme as VPN-only access.

Bonus points for picking one that actually gets used in enterprise development environments and not Gogs.

>>14749049

Pro-tip: you're going to have to have an nginx reverse proxy in front of the git server, so don't forget to talk about how you're going to set that up.

>>14749087

What does svn do differently?

>>14749105

A lot.

http://andreasjacobsen.com/2008/10/26/subversion-sucks-get-over-it/

https://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php?title=Why_Subversion_sucks

https://kbyanc.blogspot.ca/2010/04/subversion-sucks.html

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/svn/diagnosing

>>14749049

>>14749078

Nobody is impressed with your ability to do grunt work and configure software.

>>14749400

There's a reason I have a job and you don't.

I really wish you guys would leave this shit out of /agdg/. Instead we have to deal with the threads becoming trash around every demoday

>>14749428

>sysadmin thinking he's hot shit

Top kek

>>14749493

Well then, how about you

POST PROGRESS

I have none because of MotoGP

>>14749469

>gets some bantz

>bantz right back

>somebody not in the conversation gets triggered

okay dad, please give me my allowance back

>>14749501

>amateur game maker studio "developer" thinks he's hot shit

Top kek

>>14749507

no, fuck you joel

>>14747196

implementing basic sprite sorting and batching in sfml

it doesn't come with any out of the box, and while i can do immediate draw calls, it starts to eat processor if I do more than 100 calls/frame, so I need to figure out a good way to batch stuff by texture, and even though I have XNA's source, it's still tricky to work through

>>14749049

>search "set up server for A+ security rating" and follow very basic steps

>worth bragging about

>>14751149

>A+ security rating

Not sure what this even means.

>>14751379

A+ certification is a Microsoft standard

>>14751372

I literally posted the search term, you retard.

I'm going to implement dialogue localization with (semi) randomly generated lines.

>ex. "Go speak to the (count/mayor) in the (castle/cave)"

My idea was to register each variable in the dialogue as a table that way multiple dialogues can share the same variables. This will allow me to add and localize more dialogue variables if needed.

>>14751494

>using CuckCuckGo

Anon, really?

>>14751477

That has literally nothing to do with what I fucking asked you to provide you stupid piece of shit. Microsoft Security standards? Fuck off you silly niggermonkey. Answer the fucking question or accept that your dumbass has no fucking idea what goes into system administration - because you don't. You're a freshman in community college who is hoping to get a CS degree and is a prime example of Dunning Kruger. Literally hang yourself.

>>14751954

>>14751953

I've been here for years, you entry-level programmer shitters aren't going to scare me away.

>>14751963

I guess you missed the entire rest of the post where I said I could program, do music, and and some of the art.

Or the part where I never said anything about HTML and was talking about setting up a website and dedicated git server so we don't have to get assfucked by Github's shit policies.

Are you triggered because you can't do any of these things? Or let me guess, you know some Python?

>>14750060

sorry, friend, low-level stuff is out of my reach. I'm mostly a game design guy used to working with premade engines. Respect to you for putting in the work yourself, though.

>>14751974

>trying to imply samefagging

>my id has been the only one posting 1-2 sentence paragraphs

So you're totally braindead. Nice.

>>14751974

do not mention his name lest you summon the reddit demon

>>14751974

post your game

>>14751983

legit though I believe it was decided in the demo thread that he's not worth mentioning anymore. exiled and erased from history, etc.

>>14751987

>here

>8ch

Not your thread full of official college freshmen.

>>14752001

None of course, dad.

>try out Unity hub

>I don't have to download an EXE for each separate beta version of Unity I want to try out

I can't believe it took them this long to actually implement this

>>14752581

That's just unlucky

Have you tried just deleting the installation folders?

So I baked a light over my scene, and that's working just fine. My character, not being static, wasn't included in the bake, which is also fine.

After that was done I added another light that was set as real time and was masked only to my character but while my character is being lit as he should he won't cast a shadow on the rest of my scene. This is even after setting the light to cast shadows and the ground to receive them.

Anybody know how to fix this?

>>14752674

Nevermind I rebaked and now it's fine even without the second light.

Fuck if I know why it wasn't working.

>>14752674

>>14752703

Are you using Unity? Because light bakes in Unity are fucking fucked.

>>14752720

I am.

Dunno seems fine now

>>14753074

The hollow eyes are bit unsettling and the legs a little spindly for gondolas in my opinion. If I remember right your old model had some trouble looking natural in motion when the legs were moving. The new one looks like it might be better in that regard, from those examples.

>>14753194

He's checking his watch.

>>14751887

>that I asked you for

Learn how to check IDs newfag and my post had nothing to do with Microsoft. >>14751494 even gave you a screenshot of results, which you still missed. Your need to wave your dick around is really pathetic.

>>14753074

Shouldn't the eyes be protuberances instead of holes?

>>14753074

scari eys :(

>>14754787

The BSP stage is just to optimize the raw geometry by pruning away impossible faces, etc, right? What bugs are you even hitting with that?

http://www.arl.army.mil/arlreports/2015/ARL-TR-7333.pdf

Found a really in-depth article on sphere and disc point picking

>>14754893

No, that's usually called the VIS stage (in source engine at least), which happens after. The geometry needs to be organized into a BSP tree to do fast visibility checking in order to compute what is and is not visible for pruning to occur.

The issue has to do with mitigating invalid geometry, which cant be easily explained unless you have a deeper understanding of how a BSP tree is constructed. Short answer is "my polygons are being sorted into the wrong subtrees"

>>14742398

I've just read the Preface of Concepts, Techniques and Models of Computer Programming.

How far do I have to read and do the exercises until I can make Cave Story 2?

>>14754961

Changing the color or texture on the inside of the hollowed eyes would probably be good. Like a gradient from the brown to black rather than just brown then black at the back. Grey saturation could also be good.

>>14754961

>me trying to make the gondolas as creepy as possible

spot on with the whole primal fear thing. hitting on the points of deep inset eyes, with a lack of being able to see the whites of the eyes; quite creepy.

>>14739580

Graf did nothing wrong. If you wanted to have a modern source port you shouldn't whine about not having a software renderer.

>>14756712

The last time I saw software rendering as an option was in Runescape like 6 years ago.

Pardon my ignorance, but is it using the game to manipulate the texture data, rather than the graphics card/

>>14756788

anon is this a porn game? Your work is becoming really good and, sorry if this feels judgmental, I dn't want to see it wasted for such lowbrow ends.

>>14756793

Every game is a porn game if you mod it.

>>14756793

Eventually it might have porn but no not primarily a porn game. Which will be difficult to differentiate in the weeb crowd. But I don't really care. It's going to be free anyways.

>>14756788

blinking distorts her cheeks, but the blink motion is pretty good, your bottom and top eye lids shouldn't move separately in that same way in the first vid, but it mostly just looks strange how they drop when her eyes hit the top.

>>14744101

I didn't see this for demo day, what's with the hipster low poly, or nupoly shit.

>>14757156

>I didn't see this for demo day, what's with the hipster low poly, or nupoly shit.

Game for kids and I buy all my art.

>>14757231

>games for kids

What like flash games?

>i buy all my art

I hope it's cheap then, at least it's consistent.

>>14757265

>What like flash games?

No just a (primarily) mobile game for kids around 5-8.

>I hope it's cheap then, at least it's consistent.

It is. It's commonly used assets in a lot of shovelware out there. I just don't have the time or skills to produce art of my own at the pace I need. Also, even if a bit cynical, kids don't care, they just want it to look fun.

>>14757156

Good catch for the eyelid blendshape. Also the eyelids is just a debug animation. Its not an actual animation id use.

>>14758071

Pick up Blender and practice every day for a year.

>>14757156

>I didn't see this for demo day

>>14742672

hurrrrrrrrrrrr

>>14762322

Looks fine to me. The logic looks too simple to further simplify. I dislike your coding stance. Far too many new lines for my tastes. I make my code more compact and I don't new line before and after my squigglies. I feel like its a very pajeet thing.

>>14762322

>Is there another way to do this?

Temperature ? temperatureSample.r; < 0.7 ? (temperatureSample.r; < 0.3 ? Biome.temperature.Cold : Biome.temperature.Temperate) : Biome.temperature.Hot;

But really, it's not that hideous in the first place and not really worth worrying about after it's written.

>>14762322

it's fine. I personally would use even more new lines and more braces just to make it more readable.

>>14762322

Nothing wrong with the if statements, I am more concerned with the magic numbers. Maybe #define them to some more descriptive names like HOTNESS_THRESHOLD or TEMPERATE_THRESHOLD so that you can more easily change the values.

>>14762443

I'll second this. Personally I don't use curly brackets on single line if-statements but that's just a question of style.

>>14762397

nothing wrong with if statements, but if you're checking a single variable for multiple cases you should just use a switch statement.

And pre-mature optimisation is cancer, just write the fucking thing first and get it working, then make it look nice and remove redundant steps.

>>14762443

C# can't do that, but I'll do something similar.

>>14762456

switch statements only work when checking one variable- you cant use it to check if a variable is within a range of values. In this case the most optimized code is what was written.

>>14762460

>he doesn't run his C# code through the C preprocessor

You can use global const variables to do this in C# I believe. Although I'm not being that serious about running your C# code through the C preprocessor, there isn't any reason why that wouldn't work- after all, the C preprocessor should be thought of as a general purpose text processing tool, and not something that can only be run on C programs.

>>14762469

The C preprocessor can be run on any kind of text?

Could I get this working in a word document to implement a really shitty resume autocompletion?

>>14762469

>>he doesn't run his C# code through the C preprocessor

Never heard of doing this, can you share something, some example maybe? Sounds pretty interesting.

>>14762489

>>14762499

I don't know how it's done off the top of my head on all compilers, but in gcc using the -E option will only run the C preprocessor on that file.

https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-8.1.0/gcc/Preprocessor-Options.html#Preprocessor-Options

You can of course script this into your build process, I mean as long as when you hit "compile" on your IDE you can control what commands are being run, and so you can use gcc to preprocess all of your C# files before they actually get compiled into bytecode or whatever.

Maybe this sounds like a kind of weird idea but it is realistic and it will work, its not really something that people actually do but it's something that people know you can do, I heard about this idea from a friend after I was complaining that Java has no preprocessing tool like C does.

>>14762541

Cool anon, thanks. Always interesting to hear about new stuff like this.

>>14762322

Guy you don't need brackets for single statements.

if (true) Temperature=whatever;

else if (true) Temperature=meh;

else Temperature=0;

At least it works on C++. Can't imagine why it shouldn't on C#.

>>14762567

Some places having coding standards that mandate curly braces everywhere because at some point pajeet might turn

if(something)
	doAThing();

if(something)
	doAThing();
	doAnotherThing();

>>14762597

If you're working for yourself and you're not a moron you'll be fine though. Anyway, I was just suggesting a shorter way of coding it, since he asked.

>>14762827

Post code.

>>14762646

Always assume future you is a moron. Maybe not applicable in this case because if you're a pajeet-level moron then you're already screw. But designing APIs and stuff, always assume that even future you is a moron.

If I printed my game's source code on paper, and sold it along with my game, would my game count as open source?

>>14762928

I found this (https://forum.unity.com/threads/finally-a-serializable-dictionary-for-unity-extracted-from-system-collections-generic.335797/) and I'm not using one of these rather than a normal dictionary.

What part of the code? Is this enough?

    [SerializeField]
    public class MyDictionary : SerializableDictionary<int, AnimationList.CurrentAnimationState> { }

    public static AnimationList AnimationDictionary = new AnimationList();

    public class AnimationList
    {

        public MyDictionary animationList = new MyDictionary();

        public void AddAnimation(int hash, CurrentAnimationState type)
        {
            animationList[hash] = type;
        }

        public static CurrentAnimationState currentAnimationState = CurrentAnimationState.Idle;

        public enum CurrentAnimationState
        {
            Idle,
            Locomotion,
            Default,
            Pivot,
            Dash,
            Jump,
            Land,
            PivotStop,
            Grab,
            GrabJump,
            Slide,
            Crouch,
            LongJump
        }

        public int currentAnimationHash;
    }

This is what I'm currently using to add to the dictionary.

And I add to it like this

        AnimationDictionary.AddAnimation(Animator.StringToHash("Base Layer.Idle"), AnimationList.CurrentAnimationState.Idle);

>>14762322

The alternative to that is switch case statements, but in C they can only be driven by absolute values, not a range, so there's no easy way to implement them in this case.

The best you can do if you really want an alternative is go with this for now and later do something like

switch (Temperature)
{
case Biome.temperature.Hot:
// Code
break;
case Biome.temperature.Cold:
// Code
break;
default:
// Code
break;
}

>>14762932

I think so.

>>14762960

>what is life like as a programmer nerd?

Basically you type a lot

>>14762322

typeHere temp = temperatureSample.r;

if (temp <= 0.7) {

Temperature = (temp < 0.3) ? Cold : Temperate;

} else {

Temperature = Biome.temperature.Hot;

}

i hope this is formatted correctly

>>14763009

fuck

>>14762960

post "portfolio"

>>14762964

I don't see how this would impact building your game (or why it would use UnityEditor namespace), are you sure this is the actual problem?

>>14762960

>i doubt any of you enjoy life very much

At least I can make actual games and not just faggy VNs and walking sims.

>>14763025

It is, it's just not in that.

The problem comes into how I'm adding stuff to that dictionary.

        // Find the Animation Controller
        UnityEditor.Animations.AnimatorController ac = GetComponent<Animator>().runtimeAnimatorController as UnityEditor.Animations.AnimatorController;
        RuntimeAnimatorController ac2 = GetComponent<Animator>().runtimeAnimatorController;

        // Find how many layers it has
        int layerCount = animator.layerCount;
        Debug.Log(string.Format("Layer Count: {0}", layerCount));
        

        // List all states on Layer 0 and add them to a list
        UnityEditor.Animations.AnimatorStateMachine sm = ac.layers[0].stateMachine;
        //List<Animations> animations = new List<Animations>();
        for (int i = 0; i < sm.states.Length; i++)
        {
            UnityEditor.Animations.ChildAnimatorState state = sm.states[i];
            string animationName = "Base Layer." + state.state.name;;
            string animationStateToAdd = state.state.tag.ToString();
            if (animationStateToAdd == "")
            {
                animationStateToAdd = "Default";
            }
            AnimationDictionary.AddAnimation(Animator.StringToHash(animationName), (AnimationList.CurrentAnimationState)System.Enum.Parse(typeof(AnimationList.CurrentAnimationState), animationStateToAdd));
        }

Essentially I'm getting all the information I'm adding from the UnityEditor.Animations.AnimatorController, however RuntimeAnimatorController which is what I can use outside of the Editor, doesn't contain any of the same information.

Can I put my hash/enum data into an XML? I can't understand most of the stuff I'm reading online and I can't seem to find a straight answer.

>>14763087

I'm already using the dictionary to check if my current Animation hash

animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo(0).fullPathHash

is contained in the dictionary and returning its state.

I need this done as quick as possible so using an enum is probably faster than using strings.

Where can I find more info about putting all of this into an external file? Anything would work honestly but I can't make any of the stuff I've found on google work with my script

>>14763109

I doubt using tags would significantly impact your performance but that's your call. This should point you in the right direction.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41709325/retrieve-all-animator-states-and-set-them-manually-in-code

>>14763129

That's pretty much what I'm already doing, it's still telling me to use AnimatorController from UnityEditor.Animations namespace, which I can't use.

>>1476313

Read the answers, it shows you how to make it to an editor plugin that writes to a file. Or you just #ifdef your code to write to a file when in editor mode and read that file when not. Or use animation events to push states instead.

>>14762928

>Always assume future you is a moron.

That's shockingly good advice.

>>14763295

You know the correct formulas though, right? Can you link to one, maybe an anon can help interpret it

>>14762460

>C# can't do that

The fuck are you talking about? You can declare consts in the class namespace, you can even declare consts within a function body and the compiler will replace the numbers/fields where appropriate.

One caveat to this is that consts only work with compile-time constants, which means you either use primitive types, or default(T) for your custom types. To get around this, the pattern is to define things as a (private) static readonly field. Eg:

>public static readonly float Pi = 3.14159262f;

>>14764264

He means you can't use #define MyConst 1.0f for example.

>>14764332

Grapes, fox, yadda yadda.

>>14763295

Oh, I was hoping for a page link to it or something, since it looks like its from wiki.

>E[x] is the evaluation function

>Σ is sigma, which means sum of

>Function E is defined as the sum of i elements

>element n * (x - element p)) squared

So basically this looks like line of best fit. I remember seeing this in high school math. Basically for every point, you compare it to the line and get the area(?) between it and the line to see how close the line intersects the data. I believe that falls under more of statistical analysis sort of math stuffs.

Anyways, I'm mostly just taking a guess in the dark, here.

>>14764388

There's this paper http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~taoju/research/dualContour.pdf and they explain this a bit in section 2.3 but honestly it's all fuckin greek to me. I'm stupid. I ate playdoh and snorted glue in the back of the class back in school, and im just now catching up.

nice hitler dubs by the way

>>14764315

The squared dot product of nⁱ and (x-pⁱ)?

>minus pⁱ from x

>dot it with nⁱ

>square it

I hope I'm remembering this correctly from because the last time I did something like this was school.

Can i animate in Blender and then put the animations in a game engine?

>>14764798

You should just be able to export the object to a file that supports animations and put it in the engine.

Hell, last I checked, Unity supports .blends so you don't even need to export.

>>14765294

At some angles it looks bretty gud but at other it looks absolutely ridiculous. I suppose if you'll only use it for distant objects it should be fine if you're willing to allow that performance hit.

Good news everyone, Microsoft added Unix line endings to Notepad.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/

Better late than never, as they say.

>>14765406

sounds like Kowloon OST

that a coincidence or you the same guy?

sounds like late 90s Monolith soundtracks, SHOGO comes to mind. I like it. it's kinda cute

>>14765440

I mean, it is possible to use Bash on Windows.

>>14765498

They also added the ribbon which makes finding things difficult, while also removing certain features (no invert color anymore??) and making things harder to use. Seriously, in old versions you want to draw a rectangle with a frame, you left or right click and it uses primary or secondary colors accordingly. Now you have to click the color indicator then choose the color, then pick the right tool. Right clicking is no longer functional since it just opens a cut/paste context menu

Why would you willingly download a MS tool to update Notepad when you could just use Notepad++

>>14765560

By the way the pertinent code I'm referring to is in nodeContainer.cpp/h. I'm not finished with importing .tsx files from Tiled yet…

i've been procastinating about game dev like the whole day

idk what to actually do though, i'm past the ideafagging stage

>>14765570

>Why would you willingly download a MS tool to update Notepad when you could just use Notepad++

I don't know man, running MS Paint under Wine sounds like a good idea to me.

>>14765599 (Checked)

If you don't know what to do, how are you past the ideafagging stage?

>>14765608

I have too much I can choose from and I can't choose, (learn how to) program,make character model (hard since i cant draw outside of front view and its agonizing without references) or i could draw characters like a faggot

>>14765643

oh, and for iteration[0] the dual vertex position is the middle of the cube (octant)

>>14765633

Then your first priority is to learn to program, since everything else is dependent upon it. You can make the best assets in the world, but you won't be able to do anything with them unless you can put them in a game. Start by making copies of simple games that you don't need art for, like Breakout and Asteroids. Then move up in complexity from there.

>>14765655

i'm retarded, lemmi re-do that post; some of that doesn't make sense

>>14763295

>>14764315

>>14764811

x -> dual vertex position error (will by used in determining final vert position)

∑ -> summation (between 0 to n, n = intersection count, so a for loop)

n -> normal for i

p -> intersection point for i

for (int i = 0; i < intersectionCount; i++)

{

dualVertPosiError = Vector3.dot(normal[i], (dualVertPosi - intersectPosi[i]));

dualVertPosiError *= dualVertPosi;

}

Unfortunately, it's not nearly as simple as the equation says right there; that's only a partial step of the QEF unfortunately.

If you want to fully understand how2 solve it, then I'd recommend learning calculus (mostly matrix math); even with my background of taking a few calc courses, I still don't fully understand how to implement it myself, but i know what it's doing.

Or… you could use a library: https://github.com/nickgildea/qef

Also, look at source code: https://github.com/nickgildea/DualContouringSample

>>14764788

>E[x] = x * (…)

The left side is just formally naming the math function. The evaluation function is named E, and it has one parameter that it evaluates: x

You can ignore it entirely: substitute 0 into the left side and rearrange to solve for any of the variables (x, p, n). For example, when the function evaluates to 0, you can determine which X value to use. You can plug any number into it. But as far as programming it goes, you usually ignore the left side and just look at the meaty chunk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_from_a_point_to_a_line#Line_defined_by_two_points

For example, in the above, this is the most friendly expression I could find. Surely, you can make sense of it? It's basically a programming function call at this point. Looking at how the numbers interacted, I was able to, for example, adapt it to only use the top part and figure out a distance/area configuration by rearranging the formula, to help me solve the random point picking distribution I used here: >>14758266

>>14763305

There's definitely some type of settings you should be able to edit for the xmlSerializer.

Here, found it:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.xml.xmlwritersettings.aspx

Look at "omitxmldeclaration".

>>14762322

looks fine to me, I'd maybe come back in a pass to crunch the size of the code down though, and add some constants/static vars so it's easy to change/maintain.

>>14765693

Also, if you're really into learning this stuff, look at these terms on khan academy n such:

>basics of calculus

Search terms: summation properties/rules, partial decomposition/derivative, matrix operations and their applications (matrix add, subtract, multiply, divide), matrix forms (square, identity), matrix solutions for linear systems, matrix row-echelon form (gauss-jordan method), Jacobian matrix & determinants & cramer's rule

>introduction to matrix calculus (will cover types of matricies w/more detail)

important: symmetric matrix, and transpose matrix

>single value decomposition (SVD)

SVD pseudoinverse (approach of SVD used)

If you learn all of that, then you'll be good, but implementing it yourself is still a pia.

Though, you can also understand a lot of machine learning formulas with those skills; so that's a nice perk.

>>14767462

My paranoia tells me you're a shill. Also, there's plenty of books floating around, no need for casualized courses.

>>14767462

Assuming you dont have a team you will have to 1ma gamedev and do you think game design is going to be the first thing you need?

Briefly looking at the course descriptions feels like they are "how to ideaguy" courses.

Dont get me wrong i think they might help you, but you should probably develop other skills first, because even if you master game design how are you going to finish anything or get others on board? (without money, because if you have money you should probably be learning how to manage teams and budget the whole thing properly)

>>14767525

> feels like they are "how to ideaguy" courses.

You make the point better than I could. If you have any potential as a gamedev then you already intuitively know game design. What you do need is programming skills and relevant art skills like 3d modelling/animating.

>>14765540

It's great you guys collaborate so well. It seems that /agdg/ anons over here are much more compatible and willing to help each other than the spergs on cuckchan.

>>14767753

the /agdg/ thread on /vg/ is aggressive as fuck. I thought the opposite would be true, but they tend to be sarcastic, unhelpful and uncooperative. 8ch /agdg/ is fucking magical.

So I just spent the last 4 hours failing to load an .obj's triangles. It turns out that some retard at Wavefront decided that the index starts at 1 instead of zero.

>>14767781

We also have a cyclical sister thread on 8 /vg/:

>>>/vg/27335

>>14768754

Big sister or younger sister?

One idea I've had for a future game is a Terraria clone. Each world would actually consist of 25 or so map cells which are about the size of a small world. The cells would be arranged in a hexagon, and each cell would loop on itself. How far along you are in the cell determines where you end up when you travel to another cell. Thus, you could mapgen it and have distinct biomes, heightmaps, etc., and it would be a pseudo 3d world

One thing I'd wanted to do was have a weather system that was manipulated by spells and terrain in a predictable manner, but still being a simulation rather than being arbitrary.

I think the solution I found that works with the map cell system (imagine being on one part of the game world island and seeing a storm front rolling in) is to use particles per map cell. For example, each cell could have 60-100 or so "weather nodes" associated with it (hard limit 256), and each one contains weather data, such as pressure, humidity, elevation of the node, etc. Thus, you could get an aggregate of the nodes and determine the major 2-3 weather systems in a particular region, which would let you model hot/cold fronts, and determine rainfall and wind. The player could then get weather related spells that eg, release more temporary "hot particles" into the air, which would reduce the chance of rain

>>14767525

>>14767647

Yeah, I really don't need a 'how to idea guy' course. I've been putting ideas into scrapbooks since I was 10. The problem is I don't actually know how to implement anything. The best I've ever managed is working with the Morrowind CS and learning to script, but that's just incomparably simple.

The thing that bothers me the most is modeling, honestly. The moment I try to do anything 'arts' it immediately collapses into a mess.

>>14769520

Well you will have to keep at it if you want your art to not be shit (or anything else). It really hurts to be shit at something, but its the only way to get better.

>>14771227

So what is the whole BSP thing for? I always thought it was just an extension for hl1 maps and that hammer's calculations were about baking lightmaps.

>>14771288

It's a satanic ritual Ika performs to avoid modeling his maps in Blender.

>page 14 and no bread

worst timeline

>>14771366

It's the last /agdg/. Ever.

Go home everyone, it was fun while it lasted.

>>14771366

>>14771383

Dont worry, I saved the day!

New thread: >>14771391