/v/ - Video Games

not every game can be GTA 2 OP, you now know how I felt when playing GTA 3 for the first time in 2001

>40 minutes

jfc OP, I've watched some YT docus in the past such as Ahoy's Polybius investigation or most of Techmoan's videos on obsolete formats, but I really can't see how discussion of cut content for a 10 year old video game should take that much time to talk about.

>>14717348

Console limitations are most likely the cause, also retarded play testers.

I watched half of OP's video before I got bored, most of the stuff they removed they added into GTAV. Various types of clothing Shops, cosmedic player features and sport minigames like golf etc. etc.

>>14717389

>I watched half of OP's video before I got bored, most of the stuff they removed they added into GTAV

Half of the concepts that were put in IV were removed in V though. Seems like Rockstar either really can't squeeze that much out of any console regardless of the generation or they are rather inconsistent towards their vision.

>>14717229

GTA VI will be GTA Online 2.0, same with RDR 2. Rockstar has smelled the microtransaction shekel and that's all they'll ever be focused on from now on.

>>14717787

VI will be a filler game, mark my words. Its sole raison d'etre will be that we haven't seen Vice City in any incarnation since 2006 and so we need to see it before they can close the door on the HD era and make the 7th game a reboot, with higher poly assets and a scaled down world map like The Crew, most likely for the next gen.

>>14717348

It happens all the time during the development of games. You don't really know whether a feature will work as intended until you implement it into the game and test it out. There's hundreds of projects where you can read about planned features that remained on paper or were coded but scraped when it was deemed they didn't work well enough.

>>14717805

>and make the 7th game a reboot

They're not going to bother with single player anymore, at least nothing beyond making a pretense of it and focusing almost all their resources on the multiplayer.

>>14717811

I think VI will still have a token singleplayer. From VII onwards it's going to be Online only. Also, I think Rockstar will release one GTA title per console generation, so VI will be ready for 2022 and VII for 2032. They want to milk the RDR frenchise as well.

>>14717819

> I think Rockstar will release one GTA title per console generation

That's not a bad thing. 5-10 years is enough time to make a game.

>>14717811

>focusing almost all their resources on the multiplayer.

If the last multiplayer was anything to go by I question the value of said resources.

>>14717289

And a Battle Royale mode, don't forget the Battle Royale mode.

>>14717720

Got it, they made 1 game then cut it in half and sold it twice.

>>14717978

You need to pander to the chink market as well.

>>14717943

Not in this day and age. It took them just 2 years to make a GTA more entertaining, content filled and overall complete than any GTA made later back in the PS2 era.

>>14718008

>pander to the Chink market

Asian protagonist confirmed?

>>14718039

We already had that in Chinatown wars, though I don't imagine their government would be all too pleased with a game depicting the Triads.

>>14718039

My guess is that the next protagonist will be a Latino since it'll likely be set in Vice City.

>>14718039

Sleeping Dogs actually made me care about an Asian, I don't trust rockstar to. Every character in 5 was either predictable or un-entertaining.

>>14718136

The problem with GTA games is that they embrace post-modernist nihilism fully. Every member of the cast is a despicable, amoral piece of shit you either feel nothing towards or are disgusted with. They've had the same problem ever since San Andreas, where CJ was incompatible with the gameplay and a complete bitch, on top of being a moralfag.

The protagonists of GTA III and VC were the best.

>>14718171

We need more Vercetti-tier unapologetic power-hungry criminals, anything else is a shit protag for the series.

Damn nigger because of this thread i reainslalled GTA IV

I guess its time to waste this week replaying it

Anybody can recommend some interesting mods that will improve my experience?

>>14717229

gta6 already confirmed its sjw ties when the leak of a female protag came through.

>Interesting to see that Rockstar's biggest additions to GTA V were all considered and scrapped from IV.

Other than flying and car mods, there really weren't any big feature differences. What upset me were things like more public transportation options (bus, ferry) and drug purchases (speculated to be Chinatown Wars-like system, but probably just something for trailers or a mission that got cut early). Stuff like climbing telephone poles and puking from overeating doesn't really impact my experience.

>looking through this video (and the franchise as a whole) it's clear that Rockstar has slowly started to bend the knee to the will of Jack Thompson and Hilary Clinton (even if they create caricatures of them for ridicule purposes).

Look, I don't like Rockstar more than you do, but there's no evidence to support this at all, except for the lawyer you kill being changed to Jack Thompson instead of a Jew. 99% of the content cut was cut for lack of development time or changing design preferences.

>>14717334

Most of the video is minutiae like texture/model changes. If you cut it down to gameplay mechanics, map changes, and debug content, it would probably be a 10-20 minute video. It's also worth mentioning I watched it at 1.5x speed and barely noticed the difference.

>>14719143

It really pissed me off that you couldn't ride buses in V. What's the point in including a bus network with intricately crafted networks and schedules and then not even bothering to let the player ride them? It's just a total waste of resources.

Dealing/buying drugs nonexistent in V as well, yay I can smoke a bong in a safehouse, big fucking deal.

What GTA games are really lacking at this point is petty, minor crimes. Things like burglary, shoplifting, car theft/selling, robbery (civilians), armed robbery (for banks, clothes shops, not just 7/11s), underground fight/boxing clubs, enforcement/collection missions…

>>14718687

>female protag

Why do you fags even want this?

>>14719246

only retards and faggots want to play as girls

>>14719246

>>14719514

>not wanting to watch booty bouncing and cute girls the entire game

>calling someone else a homo

I can't even understand this fucking nigger babble.

>>14717229

>Cut content from IV

Actually good story and gameplay?

>>14719973

>wanting to watch girl butts bouncing around

>tranny in denial

Mate, you need to stop projecting you degeneracy.

>>14717983

>Got it, they made 1 game then cut it in half and sold it twice

Exactly

>>14723968

>Actually good story and gameplay?

Doesn't look like it. Most of the differences are aesthetic. Some random gameplay features removed but have little effect on the gameplay.

>>14717348

It makes sense to cut content when it detracts from the overall experience, or is otherwise non-cohesive (IE: the Hydra "boss fight" in Half Life 2).

It is, however, completely retarded to cut something that is just more of the same kind of content you have in already. The only logical explanation I can think of is, as mentioned, console limitations.

I mean, fuck, they're not movies - games don't usually need to worry about time bloating like film does.

>>14718171

Well duh, that's how you contextualize the rampant killing you're able to do in the game without being as inconsistent as CJ was.

>>14719205

>What GTA games are really lacking at this point is petty, minor crimes. Things like burglary, shoplifting, car theft/selling, robbery (civilians), armed robbery (for banks, clothes shops, not just 7/11s), underground fight/boxing clubs, enforcement/collection missions…

Dude, for real. I make it a point to follow traffic laws in GTA games just because I like to. It would please my autism to no end if those efforts were validated by being punished for not doing so.

>>14718171

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Grand Theft Auto. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical carjacking techniques most of the jokes will go over a typical player’s head. There’s also CJ’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Wewuz literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Grand Theft Auto truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in CJ’s existential catchphrase “Gimme dat paper!,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Tupac Shakur’s African epic Gettin' Money. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Lesie Banzie’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Grand Theft Auto tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

>>14726506

>>14718171

>implying anything the player does in free-roam is canon to the story

>>14726563

i-is this bait, anon?

>>14717348

t. Chris Roberts

>>14726482

Half-Life 2 is a pretty bad example, since Valve basically cut out almost everything that was fun and cool from the game.

And the cited logic for cutting out the Hydra always seemed pretty retarded to me and pretty easy to fix. I suspect the actual reason was probably laziness and lack of time.

>>14718037

Shame it's shit if you don't have internet or in a few years time

>>14718121

Literally nobody, not even the most hardcore SJW wants to play as a spic. It would have zero value of any kind.

Then again, asking to play as a white guy in a game about acting like the hardest nigger is a little out there.

>>14728475

Manhunt 1. that's terror and 2 were mediocre as fuck aside from the atmosphere

>>14734110

Manhunt 2 was mediocre as fuck, the presentation and voice acting were laughable bad. Not to mention it has GTA: SA graphics in 2007 and later 2009 on PC, meanwhile GTA:SA had outdated graphics in 2004.

>>14717229

>>14726301

The interesting thing is that they don't mention the things that weren't cut but also not developed, which would've affected the gameplay drastically

Things like the ATM system (which made you pull money from account), the Trunk system (you could carry 2 to 3 weapons, and cars had trunks where you could pull more), the cashier system (only the first island had them, you could rob small cashiers in certain places), auto modification, good citizen bonus

Gives place to the theory that Rockstar wanted to make GTA more like Shenmue in terms of small-scale incidents and exploration. Too ambitious if they wanted to do that in all the map.

>>14734110

Manhunt 1 was actually a pretty decent game in the second half once you get guns and can skip the repetitive, edgy finishers. I know a lot of people will say those finishers were the only reason for the game to exist, but I bet those people didn't finish the game.

>>14737425

>>>/out/

Post the crowbcat video, I want to see everyone in this thread get BTFO

>>14744453

>e-celebs

>>>/out/

>>14751431

>implying every youtube channel is e-celeb

>>14753478

Dunno why fags get so defensive when people go out of their way to make facts and arguments in video form. Is it because they're to intimidated to make a cohesive argument against them?

>>14753546

we're in an age where having an opposing opinion is considered a crime and is worthy of waging internet war over, what do you think?

>>14753564

Not even a war. More of an extreme attempt at discrediting because an opinion happens to be in video format.

>>14717348

Usually it boils down to console limitations, time constraints, or a clash with existing features or mechanics. Pokémon games frequently (but not always) re-implement scrapped features in proceeding generations. Though for Pokémon there used to be the issue of inter-generation compatibility, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore after ORAS added XY-incompatible megas.

>>14753572

e-celeb shit is clickbait for tube shekels. That video isn't a comparison, it's just presenting one side to create controversy like a modern documentary flick. It's like my mom telling me about how McDonalds is poison after seeing that documentary.

>>14753564

>>14753546

>>14753572

Crowbcat is 4chin Reddit tier, that's why

He's taken down videos because fanbases got pissy, he's blatantly shilled for games and stated they were not advertising and many times just makes videos out of without contextualizing.

He makes well edited videos talking shit, yes, but he also has also done lots of retarded shit and there's a small fanbase here that will cocksuck every video he makes, true or not without a grain of salt.

>>14753622

>>14753626

>>14753622

>>14753627

>>14753626

>>14753622

>>14717348

It depends, sometimes it might be stuff that wasn't fitting for the game to begin with which can sometimes be understandable, other times though it's just ideas that simply can't be finished, like alot of the cut content for New Vegas.

>>14753605

>it's just presenting one side to create controversy like a modern documentary flick.

Yea like that 1 video that tried to provide the other side and failed? Seriously faggot just admit you're to intimidated to take the video point by point and invalidate it.

>>14753622

>He's taken down videos because fanbases got pissy, he's blatantly shilled for games and stated they were not advertising and many times just makes videos out of without contextualizing.

Why don't you provide proof then? I've never seen him taking down videos. Also the videos you're posting after your post have mechanics that occur in IV and most of them have nothing to do with gameplay. Besides this I don't care about who Crowbcat is as a person or his actions. His video on GTAIV is solid and I've yet to see a congruent argument against it. Facts are facts.

>>14753628

4:40, when the guy's sunglasses are knocked off and on the ground they don't have tinted lenses

>>14753622

Go fuck yourself, crowbcat is god tier and you're just jealous you can't create better content

>>14753774

Don't even mind his content but way to sound like a foaming fanboy.

>>14753723

>Provide proof

Here's a sample

> Also the videos you're posting after your post have mechanics that occur in IV

No they do not.

>and most of them have nothing to do with gameplay.

Bullshit, most of these things add up in gameplay, and the same statement could be applied to Crowbcats video.

>I don't care about who Crowbcat is as a person or his actions

Of course you don't, right now you're sucking his dick clean off without taking into the account the context of the videos or the underlying differences between them.

>His video on GTAIV is solid and I've yet to see a congruent argument against it

The videos I posted, plus the fact that GTAIVs missions and content are fucking god awful and the game map is dull and grey.

>Facts are facts

A misleading video without taking into account what GTAV does better than GTAIV and nitpicking what GTAV had to remove due to a bigger landmass with better content is facts now?

You're a great useful idiot if you fall for something this simple, I'll tell you that much.

You're taking his video face value without

>>14753806

>2

Search "Crowbcat reupload", most descriptions call him a cuckhold, that's how many he has took down and not just for copyright.

>>14753801

>Here's a sample

What, he took down a video that has nothing to do with gameplay on his gameplay channel? What kind of argument is that?'

>No they do not.

Some do actually. And there's plenty of detailed ion IV that don't make it in V as well.

>most of these things add up in gamepla

Oh yea like fabirics interacting with a character model or sunglasses falling off a characters head? Seriously faggot?

>and the same statement could be applied to Crowbcats video.

Many of his examples are but it's obvious plenty aren't. Especially when it comes down to gunplay and NPC interactions with combat.

> right now you're sucking his dick clean off without taking into the account the context of the videos or the underlying differences between them.

>he said missing my point

His videos stand for themself. I'm not subbed to the person but like I said, facts are facts.

>The videos I posted

Which rely primarily on cosmetic changes.

>plus the fact that GTAIVs missions and content are fucking god awful and the game map is dull and grey.

The missions in V range from driving casually around which isn't much better. Niko is still a better protagonist than all 3 in V combined. And the map has plenty of regions and takes place in a city. The map in V is an empty fucking desert and LA. Not much better.

>A misleading video without taking into account what GTAV does better than GTAIV

Nothing misleading about it. The counter video to it barely had enough content while falsifying other aspects.

>and nitpicking what GTAV had to remove due to a bigger landmass with better content is facts now?

>bigger landmass

You even know how land buffering even works dipshit? Better AI has nothing to do with landmass so I don't know what the fuck you're even trying to prove here.

>You're a great useful idiot if you fall for something this simple

>he said using "landmass" as an argument for better programming

>You're taking his video face value

Having played both games, not really. The mechanics in IV feel more fleshed out and mesh better together.

>>14753806

Sounds about right. I remember that VR video because it looked actually kinda fun but I don't blame him otherwise for the jewbisoft one. If it were me I would jut re upload it on an anonymous channel.

>>14753817

>most descriptions call him a cuckhold

From faggots like you who get mad at nothing I'm sure. Ever consider he just wanted a more comprehensive video list that wasn't 20 second meme videos? Assuming the videos you're posting are his uploads I see nothing wrong with removing them.

>>14753774

I feel ashamed by proxy, "anon".

>>14753783

I like how you have no argument

>>14753940

>he's great because he's great

Yea sure outwitted me there.

>>14753951

Why don't you make a better video

>>14753954

Why don't you read my posts first?

>>14753774

>>>/out/