/v/ - Video Games

I'm not bothered by spoilers, but part of that is going back to an old habit of always reading the final chapter of a book first - then working my way forward to see how it all comes together to reach that end point. Which, I guess is fucking weird, but that's how I do.

>>14708739

Isn't that an actual narrative device in media, where viewer/reader/player is first tread the scene near the end, and then is thrown back in time?

I don't know how it is called, probably Book Ends or Framing or something like that.

Though knowing actual ending is different thing entirely.

>>14708739

Well, you are not alone in this. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/spoiler-alert-stories-are-not-spoiled-byspoilers.html

>Usually spoiling a game is considered a form of griefing, since a player will supposedly get less fun from it.

i will never undestand those subhumans

The way I see it, for a video game, spoilers shouldn't matter. In fact spoilers should do nothing but encourage you to play it, so you can see it for yourself. If so much of the game hinges on the story that knowing the ending in advance ruins your desire to play the game and progress to the end, it's probably a shit game AND a shit story.

>>14708755

If the end plays in the present, you're probably thinking of In medias res.

>>14708776

Fair enough. If somebody spoiled parts of the gameplay for me that'd be one thing, but the story I'd like to experience myself in 99% of the cases.

I really don't mind spoilers for games I'm never going to touch or get to play.

>>14708732

Spoilers were always an idiotic meme from faggots who don't know how fiction works. They place all emphasis on shock value when a good twist is only as good as how it holds up upon rereading. It became kind of an internet convention to "avoid spoilers", but it is unwarranted. People who whine about spoilers should all be bullied.

>>14708784

retard it is literally impossible for a good twist to be as "good as how it holds up upon rereading" because a good twist would also be an incredibly memorable one that you wouldn't forget to begin with; if they already put up a lot of build-up time to it as well that makes the twist only more memorable.

It is literally impossible to get the same experience as your first time playing through a game or reading a book no matter how good it is because that's just a simple fucking fact, kill yourself

>>14708788

Ouch.

>>14708732

Depends on how the game does it's story, for example, Fallout 4, if that game had a more poignant and more immersive way of letting you play your and choose the background of your character, I'd really give a shit, but there's nothing, really nothing to make you care about Shaun.

I played Ghost Trick because of those smooth animations. The story being gripping was a welcome surprise. I don't really care that much about spoilers but if the story and suspense is the only thing going on for the game, knowing what happens next kills my drive to play it anymore.

>>14708837

Thank you.

>>14708842

>That pic

Did he died?

>>14708870

Those ending spoilers don't mean shit. There's absolutely no context given. Meanwhile, if you said "DIMA murdered Far Harbor's mayor, replaced her with a Synth and forgot about it" that would mean something.

For some games, specifically with a long and developed story, I stay away from spoilers. For others it's not a big deal. SSBB spoiled the end of Mother 3. I played it years later and now it's my favorite game.

>>14708732

>Spoiling ghost trick

i'm on the side that thinks tham "muh sotry" is a cancer killing gaming

but Ghost Trick is one of the very few where i literraly worship the "muh story" factor on acount of how good it is… and you spoiled it for you

i pity you m8

>>14708954

Ghost Trick is good not because of story though.

>>14709041

breedy gud

though it did suffer from to much trial and error at times

but the story is what elevated it from "avove average" to "god tier"

Somebody gave me a fake spoiler for The Thousand Year Door on a forum I used to go on and I left the forum until I beat the game. The dude said the final boss was Donkey Kong and I was expecting original DK being behind the door and that he would be throwing barrels and shit at me. I was disappointed when I found out what it actually was.

I think spoilers in games should be irrelevant. You can't spoil gameplay for someone else, it's something that has to be experienced personally to actually enjoy. If anything, everyone should spoil themselves at least a little so that they know what a game has to offer before investing time and possibly money into it. The whole mindset of wanting to play things completely blind is foolish and contributes to devs putting out shit products since there are a lot of people who will avoid all information and buy it day one without doing any research, just to avoid muh spoilers. Story spoilers are a little different, and I can understand not wanting to know everything before going in, but story should never be the focus of a game anyway (outside of a VN I guess).

>>14709171

I'd certainly understand if someone spoiled the end or some big twist in a 100% RPG or something, that would be pretty shit. Most of them have really anticlimactic endings but even then, they have at least one twist somewhere in the middle, In cases like this, I see the story as a reward for good gameplay, and taking that reward away makes it, while not unenjoyable, still a bit less rewarding.

>>14708837

this anon gets it

>>14708755

It's called the "they were all dead, the final gunshot was an exclamation point to everything that has lead up to this point"

>>14709194

Also the case for any Suda51 game, barring Let it Die

yeah

some things seem so bland and boring for outside view that I need some spice to actually commit to playing the game

>>14708732

>Space Siege

Never even heard of it. What's it about and what spoiled you such that you wanted to play it?

>Torchlight 2

Same questions; I was under the impression it was a Diablo clone.

>>14708755

>Book Ends

That's when something from one point in a story is echoed/referenced/completed at a later point. If a character complains about his indigestion at the beginning, then embarks on a subplot to find antacids, then finds them, the narrative device is bookended.

>Framing

Depending on context it can be a synonym of juxtaposition, but the true meaning refers to a larger story element containing a smaller story or story element. The Canterbury Tales is a classic(al) example.

I'm fairly certain that Doki Doki Literature Club, for all of its normalfag-cycle popularity, probably wouldn't have gotten any sort of attention if people didn't spoil the fact it was metashit.