/v/ - Video Games

>>14694694

>we

why don't YOU pirate the game, YOU pick out all the lore conflicts and YOU autistically document everything YOU LAZY FUCK.

>>14694694

MUH BURF RITE

Battletech was always pozzed, though.

>>14694705

>why don't YOU pirate the game

I don't want to burn my house down by melting my GPU.

>>14694694

I don't think anyone ever suggested it was canon to begin with. Call me when someone includes Aurigan Reach in official printed material.

>>14694725

You tried this in the last thread and made yourself look stupid, just give it a rest.

>>14694742

>game that is blind to both race, gender and religion

>in a setting that would be divided along ethnic and religious faultlines

>not pozzed

Okay, we'll pretend Battletech is full of wise redpills or isn't pushing the multicultural agenda so you can sleep at night with the knowledge you didn't waste a few decades of your life on autistic Jewish propaganda.

>>14694731

so you want us to ruin our GPUs when we could be playing cryptojew?

>>14694694

>100% GPU usage

no

>>14694725

Very true.

- Franchise was made by jews

- Original title used was "BattleDroids" in an attempt to shamelessly ride off the popularity of Star Wars "droids", before LucasFilm stopped them

- Artwork and designs were literally stolen from then-obscure Japanese cartoons, and they only stopped when another group of jews that held the Robotech license (Harmony Gold) threatened them

- Makes pretensions of "gritty realism", but basic things like weapon ranges make no fucking sense at all, and its original mech designs are even more physically impossible than the Jap art they first ripped off

- Combat system is a horrible mess of lookup tables with no underlying rhyme or reason behind them

- Fanbase was and continues to be one of the biggest groups of autistic sperglords ever, obsessively fixated on the BattleTech name despite the existance of loads of better mech games like Earthsiege and Heavy Gear

>>14694694

Good luck, dude. You'll be fighting an uphill battle against both SJWs who cream over this shit and normalfags who don't don't see that as a problem.

>>14694792

I'm sure the talented developers over at HSB, who needed a few months post-release of Shadowrun to learn how to implement an actual save system, are on it as we speak.

>>14694807

And BattleTech /tg/ cuckolds that lick that shit off the ground no matter how badly it smells. I'll never understand the fanatical devotion those retards have to BattleTech. I like the MechWarrior and MechCommander games well enough, but everything else to do with the franchise is pure garbage and always has been. The setting is generic and soulless you could just shit out your own version of it, slap some cool mech designs on top and call it a day.

>>14694836

You shouldn't. On top of being likely to set your house on fire the game is riddled with irritating, 5+ second long delays for everything, and is apparently incredibly short (people speculate so that they can drown you in DLC). Also, I watched a few videos and there's no weight to the combat. The weapons sound like peashooters and the mech animation when hit don't look right.

The better question is why there isn't any good turn-based mech game being made? The only other tactical, turn based game with mechs is Phantom Brigade, but considering it's current year +3 I have little hope it won't such.

>>14694801

why do you reply to threads by just looking at the thumbnail, dork?

>Forced to play thought this opening mission.

I really could not give two fucks about this spic queen and their succession. when do i get to do PM shit?

>>14694882

>irritating, 5+ second long delays for everything, and is apparently incredibly short (people speculate so that they can drown you in DLC). Also, I watched a few videos and there's no weight to the combat. The weapons sound like peashooters

This sounds a shitton like Shadowrun Returns and its expansions.

I hope Dual Gear is good.

>>14694694

should try and get a steam tab going for it

Non canon

>>14694882

>>14695128

Never trust HBS, no matter how good the license they are using is.

>>14695769

>HBS

I don't even care about them

It's Parakike I don't trust

>>14695769

Or how good their last licensed shit was. Their only original game is shit.

>>14694802

oh man I fucking love heavy gear.

Why dont we get any good games for that anymore?

>>14694882

>Hates, hates, hates all things Battletech.

>But researches enough previews to form detailed views anyway.

>Complains about people wasting decades on the franchise.

You're talking about yourself in some of these posts. Be honest. How badly did Battletech screw up your entertainment life?

>>14696049

I only played Mechcommander 2 decades ago. Why should I play 1st one instead?

>>14696060

Because the AI isn't retarded and it's a much better game.

Here's a modden version that works on modern machines, with bugfixes and every official and fanmade campaign and mission already included.

https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=93282.0

There's also a patch for MechCommander 2 with additional campaigns as well.

>>14696079

Jew invented the setting, then lost control of the IP to other Jews due to his own incompetence. In the year of our lord 2018 he gets the rights back thanks to Kikestarter and gives us Battletech 2018 with tranny, faggots, matriarchy and not a single blonde person in sight.

It's safe to say this modern Battletech game was his original vision all along.

I'll admit it, I haven't paid attention to the game. I was cautiously optimistic when I first heard about it way back when but never followed any of the development of the game. Now I'm seeing that it's fallen to practically nobody watching it on streaming sites despite being just released.

So how did they manage to fuck up the gameplay as much as they did to make it so even normalfags don't want this?

>>14696142

Why would normalfags ever be interested in it?

It's a niche game that shuns its audience.

pronoum

>>14696142

They mainly fucked up the marketing by giving early access practically only to streamers without the slightest clue what battletech is. Those clueless ecelebs tried playing it like NuXcom. One of them went as far as calling commenters patiently explaining to him how shit works "scary" and told them to stop watching his stumbling around - which most would have loved to do, but streamers with some knowledge about BT didn't get early access so the only let's plays available were 50 shades of cancer. By the time the early access embargo dropped and actually competent streamers had a chance to show the game everybody with any pre-existing interest had seen princess cunts >MUH BIRTHRIGHT tantrum plenty times in the search for a not clinically retarded presentation of the game that even if the hamfisted writing didn't bother them at first, they were ready to strangle the bitch at the moment of release - and knowing that isn't an option didn't help sales to put it mildly.

It's just one more case study how bad marketing will amplify every fault of your product.

Putting aside the tranny shitshow is it at least fun?

I'm really desperate for a mecha game but not that desperate to buy a shitty game

INNER CIRCLE DESERVES TO BE WIPED OUT FOR THE DEGENERAET WAY OF LIFE THEY BREED INTO OUR WORLD

>>14695173

How 2 play it?

>>14696536

>>14696139

You're a good man, anon.

>>14696474

>is it at least fun?

no, it's super buggy and has the new paradox account thing tied into it

Another anon mentioned how attacks are also super long and awkward animations

>>14694694

I hear this is an SJW game. Is it true or is it just a meme?

>>14696654

I dont know, do you like characters described as being gender fluid?

>>14696658

I dont really care what they think of themselves as. As long as they don't tell me or at least dont make it a constant thing I couldn't care less.

>>14696727

"Gender non-binary" is an attribute characters have

>>14696732

As in its just in their bio? I dont care about that then. Or is it a kind of stat?

>>14696139

I appreciate it, anon. Thank you. Now if I could find out how to replace the RoboCop and Scarface music, everything would be perfect.

>>14696747

>people whining about not being represented in vidya

I always wondered why this matters and why fags and women keep complaining about shit like this then all of a sudden it's the whites who are complaining they aren't represented enough. The fuck happened to America, man?

>>14696474

>>14696037

Depends on your taste. It's subpar at best. At its core, all you do during the tactical layer is move and shoot. Battletech (PnP) gameplay is hilariously outdated and they sort of adapted that minus all the cool shit. At the strategic level, it's even more dumb down but considering the scope, I suppose it's enough.

It's really nothing special. It's a prettier prototype version of Megamek+Mekhq with slightly better AI. I would buy this for $5 or less and nothing more but that's only because they made it relatively easier to mod the game.

>>14694817

It took them months to do that because the game was designed for phones where you can just minimize apps. It was funny seeing them scramble to jury rig a save system on it because majority of their players are PC. The first implementation of it didn't even save your progress right and you have to reset the "scenario" or level when it bugs out defeating the entire purpose.

>>14696079

>SpaceShoah

my sides

>>14696892

>I always wondered why this matters and why fags and women keep complaining

Because they are utterly incapable of making their own things, so they have to whine at the white man to do it for them. Vavra was right when he said it's not his responsibility to make content for other cultures.

>The fuck happened to America, man?

The fuck happened to the whole of the West. The UK is far worse than the US even. We're reaching cancerous levels of pozz.

Also, as another big fuck you to (((Jordan Weisman))) here's a link with all four MechWarrior games. Of note is the fact that MW2 comes with a preconfigured version of Dosbox that makes it easy to run. Just install and you're good (though remember to increase the clock speed in Dosbox).

https://monova.org/1A139318FAA15F4AB5BF4B48735D43A531FBBE6D

>>14696654

see

>>14695128

>>14696732

This makes no sense if in the future gender no longer matters it would not be on their fucking bio. If anything there sex would be the only thing listed because that would be relevant for medical reasons. These idiots do not think about the logical conclusions of what they want society to do. They just shove shit in so they get backpats from the people they like.

>>14697398

>This makes no sense if in the future gender no longer matters it would not be on their fucking bio

Trannies and the rest of the clown brigade want their cake and to eat it too. Basically, they want you to pretend they "pass" but also keep acknowledging how truly special and unique they are because of their transgenderism. The most insulting thing you can do to a tranny is to genuinely mistake it for a member of the opposite gender.

>These idiots do not think about the logical conclusions of what they want society to do

That's obvious when you figure they're busy importing Muslims by the millions, yet at the same time champion gay rights.

>They just shove shit in so they get backpats from the people they like.

To a liberal progress exists for the sake of progress. If we're not progressing further down the slippery slope then, to their diseased minds, there's something wrong with society.

>>14696892

I won't buy it because of the SJW shit even if it was good. If it's an okay game then it's a real shame they had to spoil it will all the tranny crap.

>>14696995

It's absolute bullshit anon. Fuck these leftist scum.

>>14697561

Can someone mod it to take out all the diversity and gender-flip all the characters? I'd like to see HBS cease and desist someone.

>>14697610

Since most cutscenes seem to be just drawings you could maybe whiten the whole game. The project would be worth is solely for the endless asshurt it would cause.

>>14697662

>>14697610

Hardest part would be to find a dedicated drawfag for the cutscenes. I'm sure coding pronouns to "sex" and dummying out the they option wouldn't be too hard.

>>14697680

Wouldn't we just have to change the faces and eyes? Seems pretty basic photoshopping to remove everyone that isn't white or East Asian.

>>14696079

>Being surprised that Kikes and their Christcuck slaves exist in the future

I don't see anything pozzed about it, it's just how life will always be.

>>14697720

You mean heretic slaves? Jews want to destroy all Orthodox religions so they can continue playing hanky-panky with Satan without someone pointing out that they are fuckups for doing so.

>>14697761

What about Orthodox Jews?

should i play this game 12gb is alot of room. Youtube videos don't really appeal to me but my friend is a huge battletech fan.

>>14697798

Yeah my friend is the same way he loves battletech and like HBS' shadowrun game. He actually kickstarted the thing, but he really doesn't care if games are that pozzed as long as the actual game part isn't shit.

Our boy razorfist btfoing entitled pissbabies about Battletech. Reminder that New Vegas sucks and you should buy this game.

>>14697862

Where is this happening?

>>14697869

Ah I'm overblowing it. He just made a few posts shilling for it.

>>14697875

Tweets I should say

>>14697879

links?

>>14697880

http://archive.is/Kv2Ap

I just thought it was funny in conjunction to his other views

>>14697895

Willful ignorance. People want a battletech game and they will contort in the most painful ways to ignore the pozz.

>>14697895

Yeah if he doesn't call them out on this bullshit I'll lose most of what little respect I have for him. I mean he hates Cd Projekt because the Witcher novel series is apparently plagiarized. Even though the author gets no money from the games and the games only use the universe and not the actual plot of the books. To just ignore a developer inserting unnecessary politics and banning people for bringing up their bullshit, plus the technical problems, he would be a massive hypocrite.

>>14697902

I guess so. I've been guilty of stuff like that before.

>>14697920

Funnily enough, I've read both and they're barely alike. Razorfist will of course retort by saying that it goes deeper than that but that's all he had when he started ranting about the supposed plagiarism. He seems the "I'll make a random hypothesis and stick with because people shout at me" type.

>>14698117

/v/ on average is running windows 7 on cobbled together 80gb IDE hard drives on their old q6600's and their 8800GT they just don't feel comfortable upgrading from yet.

>>14697798

Unless you have shitty bandwidth limits, try it.

Would recommend wait a bit for more vids and streams to appear, if size is really a problem.

>>14698121

I'm not gonna judge, I keep a pair of 9800GTs around because S-Video and Component output.

>>14697850

Same he raved about shadowrun and got me into it. So i felt i might enjoy this series too but reading these Battletech threads is making me reconsider.

>>14698117

Where the fuck are you buying your hard drives? mine sells $85 for 3tb at the cheapest. That said its not being unable to buy hardrives its about having room in my case.

Also the last time i upgraded I only got 750gb of the 2tb advertised what a nightmare that week turned out to be.

>>14698167

yeah waiting is the prudent choice.

>>14697798

>12gb is a lot of room

Jesus christ, and here I am stressing about the 8tb NAS I'm about to build being filled up by the end of the year.

>>14698117

member were good 200mb games?

They deleted more than 500 negative reviews that had their comment section open because they're just that butthurt about people mentioning that you have to pick your pronouns in the character creator.

I don't even care about if the game is any good when the developers are engaging in that level of faggotry.

>>14694752

Last thread already gave a quick TL;DR of the most glaring problems that even the guys who don't care about the lore and just play for the mechs would notice, other then that a We Wuz and a Strong Trashy Slut is typical of virtue signaling although neither would be inherently out of place because Battletech's setting is fucking big it'd just be really, really odd. Especially if nobody comments, insults, and makes passes at her the whole the time.

>>14699200

That's actually a realistic depiction of a tranny.

>>14699919

I hope these chucklefucks drive Diversity & Comics into our camp so he really starts whaling on them. Also, why do trannies never actually put any effort in their looks? I mean, they either look like 40-something, fat housewives with a mustache or escapees from the clown troupe.

Also, I love the profile for "Michelle", xer being a complete fucking Mary Sue with apparently no fault whatsoever. Stellar writing from the left, as always.

>>14696747

>genderfluid mechwarriors can handle lots of LRMs right in thier face and exploding all over thier chest armor plates and can even take a direct hit to a rear heat sink without so much as a whimper. 18 years jazz tap you know

Someone should make a game where this is an actual mechanic

>>14700664

Y'know, it sounds like I really, really need to play MechCommander.

>>14700664

>They just frankenstein'd together the official missions together with some shoddy fan missions.

You play the official campaigns after the other you absolute fuckwit. Yes, the modder did add additional campaigns made by modders (which aren't half bad), but you don't need to play them.

You absolute fuckwit.

>It should run without issue on modern systems, you just have to extract the contents of the ISO into a folder, keep the ISO mounted (or use a crack) and run the .exe.

Or, you know, stop being an ignorant troglodyte and download the freeware version.

>>14700784

*play the official campaign missions (and official campaigns) one after the other

>>14700749

After you play MechCommander, I think you will have a newfound appreciation for mission design.

Most tactical games are overly concerned with core gameplay and being hardcore simulators yet end up having formulaic and/or predictable mission design.

Missions in MechCommander don't hold your hand, they only give you clues about what to expect and they're filled with twists and turns. There is no such thing as a "combat sequence" or "combat arena" in the MC's missions. Missions have a fluid structure which means you can only have a hunch at best when you will have to fight and when you can avoid combat altogether. Enemies encountered in one part of the map could flow into another area and consolidate with another group if you fail to destroy them.

MC's mission design to most tactical games' is like Quake 1's level design to Doom 4's level design.

MC's persistent resources and salvage mechanic emphasizes risk management and the variety and vagueness of its missions further enhances that aspect of the game.

>>14700784

http://www.nogutsnogalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=4419.0

The so-called "original campaign merge" already has some fan made missions spliced in starting after the 6th mission.

>>14696892

> all of a sudden it's the whites who are complaining

It's calling out hypocrisy you stupid faggot. You have the same retarded mentality of the people who say "you're just as bad as they are!" when you hit someone back who punched you first out of nowhere.

These progressive fucks keep screaming about inclusion and diversity, and then they completely exclude the very demographic from the game which is precisely the one which is most heavily represented in gaming. It's hypocritical and it's agenda pushing. If you're all for diversity and inclusion you better have white people in your game or you're not actually being fucking diverse.

>>14697920

>>14698078

Razorfist is an insufferable cunt with his head up his ass who doesn't know shit about anything, yet pretends all his myriad horribly shit opinions are unassailable truth. Nobody needs a broken jaw more than that blustering fag.

IN ANY CASE

I pirated the game to see how it is. It's pretty bland. Leaving aside all the politics around it, Lady Arano is a stupid cunt who never sounds like she has any compassion for her own people and just whines and bitches about being betrayed and deserving the throne. Once again leftist faggots create a protagonist who's shit and her uncle talks a whole lot of sense, even if he's lying in his speeches (which they don't explain whether he is or not). He wanted to make their kingdom or whatever great again, tried to persuade Princess Bitch to see his line of reasoning, she refused, and he basically said "well I hate to do this but we need to go through some growing pains to save our people" kind of like how actual revolution is the only way to save the West anymore because the ZOGs are too entrenched and corrupt. So yeah, you have no choice but to fight alongside this horrible cunt who possesses an irritating sense of entitlement.

Gameplay itself is meh. You mainly just move and shoot. There's not a whole lot of tactical choices going on, combat's not too deep, your weapons don't differentiate themselves from other by anything other than how much heat they make, their damage, and their range, with knockdown ability being secondary.

>>14699919

>multiple divorcee

I'd bet money that she wouldn't use that as an insult against a woman who's had multiple marriages despite the fact that women are usually the ones who initiate a divorce.

The gameplay is good, but it definitely has a lot of optimization issues. When you're just flying around doing missions and making mechs, it's great. When you're doing the main story mission it's dogshit. The main story mission aren't bad in design, but they shove so much left leaning politics that it's actually disgusting and impossible to take seriously.

Only a few missions in and the entire plot is WE WUZ KANGS – literally. You're helping some bitch take back the throne after she was robbed of it. One of your first missions with her involves uncovering a nazi death camp. Afterwards she gives a speech to rally everyone and then the muslim doctor+engineer joins you for good. The steam achievement icon for this mission is the black power fist. I wish I was making this up.

>>14702359

It's not even fixing it needs - the bloody thing needs to go back to the drawing board. It's like a younger, more retarded cousin to Battlefleet Gothic. There's all this lore, canon or otherwise, you're being bombarded with but petty distractions aside shit is repetitive and plain boring to no end.

>>14702378

Even if I actually enjoyed all the rest of the dull mechanics and the snoozefest that is combat, the most painful and blatantly egregious thing of it all is the fucking waiting. There's so much time wasted in this game from camera stealing and clunky animations that it made XCOM 2's launch look like a goddamn speedrunning game. It takes you ten times longer to do anything that it should, even if this shit didn't have horrendous bugs, glitches and hardware hiccups out the ass.

>>14698121

How the fuck do you know that?

>>14702534

I get bugs, hell, I even get performance issues. But why is it so halfassed? If MW2M had actual, unique content in what, 1996, what's your excuse?

>>14702564

On top of that, this shit was beta tested by kikestarter backers doing it for free, and it STILL came out in this boondoggled mess? Fucking how? Steam discussion pages and reviews are rife with people talking not only about performance issues, freezes, crashes and loading times but warning fellow players "BE CAREFUL guys, this game almost melted my GPU and now my rig crashes when trying to play other games." This game eats up more fucking resources than the most demanding shit in the last decade. On my PC it's eating up 5GB ram. On some other guy's rig it's devouring 7GB RAM and 6GB VRAM. It's inexcusable.

My best guess for this is that there are probably four dudes at HBS who know how to actually code or do any kind of work involved that's required for building a game from scratch (and this shit was made in Unity, remember), and they got slapped with all the work while 80% of the employee roster at HBS fucked around, virtue signaling, making noise and motion and calling it progress.

I also want to point out here that I'm getting really suspicious about the steam review page. When it first released it said "mixed." I forget what the percentage of total reviews were good was, but I know it was mixed. A few hours later, it said "mostly positive" at 71%. That was release day. I checked back several times that day and several times today. Every time I look, it says 71%. That percentage hasn't fucking moved one bit this entire time.

I'm calling bullshit.

>>14702335

Wait, SRR seriously outclasses this in terms of depth? Seriously? You're not just making hyperbolic statements on the internet are you anon? I don't doubt it mind you, but if it's true that's pretty fucked up given SRR was a puddle on the sidewalk in terms of a depth.

What was that RTS with the customizable mechs and underground combat? I never got that shit running right, but what I saw looked rad.

>>14703614

Metal Fatigue. It was pretty good, but the simultaneous action in orbit, on and under the ground was a bit much. Or maybe one of the Earth 2140 series? That just had on ground and underground layers without an orbital layer.

>>14702599

Kenshi is originally coded by one dude who took his code from orge to unity. It only took 1.5 gb ram and not even close to bottlenecking my processors for it to keep track of a whole world worth of AIs doing AI things (once you get into multisquads and multioutpost building). It's clearly isn't unity's fault.

>>14703679

No, metal fatigue is the one. Gotta try it again soon.

>>14703714

Not all of it is Unity's fault, the slow buildup of lag in every unity game over time while you play is Unity's fault. Same faults as Flash too.

So what pronoun did you choose /v/? That shit left such a bad taste in my mouth that I couldn't finish the first mission

So how long till the the aryan mod?

>>14704777 (checked)

Jesus Christ, you on some medication or something? You can't change your loadout on the fly because it takes time, so best you can do is try and mount better weapons on heavier mechs as they come. Reputation is simple % cost change, salvage is what your loot is. Duh. So, 2/8 means you get to pick 2 from the battle loot pool but the rest is left on the chance. I don't need to explain what the C-Bills are for, right?

There isn't a deadline short of a soft time cap if you ignore a priority mission for long enough or if you're into red for like three months in a row.

>I was never told I can level up each Mechwarrior's skills

Bullshit. I know for a fact there's a pop-up.

>>14704563

Who the frak comes up with these names?

Soldatova?

>>14704738

Why would anyone give a flying fuck about Battletech canon? I'm serious here, there's nothing of note to it, outside of the mechs it's about as generic as you can possibly get for a sci-fi setting. The only two events of note are the Clan Invasion and the Jihad, and the Jihad was complete shit.

The setting desperately wants you to believe it's gritty and dystopian but it fails miserably, on top of failing even harder to explain why mechs are such fucking important war winning weapons when you can just spam cheaper tanks that are either equal in firepower or outclass them. Jump jets? They sure as shit aren't buzzing around like a wasp on speed like they do in Armored Core.

>>14705034

To not have AT&T come and wipe out my planet with lost tech because someone forgot to pay the telephone bills

I am a dedicated Fed Rat tbh, always have been and probably always will. I just love autocannons way too much.

The lore is fairly decent though if you digest it enough, but I knew there was going to be problems after reading the new Roughneck entry, about stronk womyn beating the patriarchy of mechwarriors, when to be honest battletech never really had a git back to kitchen amoungst a lot of the factions, especially if you are Lyran at this time period since every archon has military service, some even going in as a PBI

>>14705172

Fucking Clanner scum!

>>14704932

>failing even harder to explain why mechs are such fucking important war winning weapons when you can just spam cheaper tanks that are either equal in firepower or outclass them

That's easier then you think, way before everything went to shit the old civilizations realized that any serious wars between each other would be devastating and likely wipe everything out. So a conspiracy pushed for wars being fought with a limited amount of super weapons, combined with everything going to shit and basically being imperium lite the conspiracy worked. Wars are not fought in the scale of numbers you'd expect it to be and wars are so casual that everyone who lives on the planets where war is constant has everyone's flags set aside to switch out for the declared winner of the local skirmish.

>>14705200

The Succession States routinely fought wars that only stopped because they ran out of bodies to fight them with. I have no idea where you get this idea that Battltetech wars are small scale or limited in their lethality, because that's not even remotely close to the truth.

About the only rules everyone respects (at least until the Jihad) was no WMD that fuck up a planet in the long term and no shooting at FTL ships.

>>14705206

Or that Mechs are used to such effect that everything else is excluded.

>no shooting at FTL ships

I'd assume that's mostly due to not pissing off ComStar

>>14705214

>Or that Mechs are used to such effect that everything else is excluded.

Like I keep saying, there is basically no in-universe reason why mechs are so powerful outside of tabletop rules gimping everything else in their favor.

For example, there's plenty of tanks that both outweight and outgun even assault mechs, yet they're still considered the inferior choice.

>I'd assume that's mostly due to not pissing off ComStar

It's because they have no idea how to make new FTL ships, so they figured out if they wanted to maintain some semblance of human civilization that extends beyond one solar system they'd better safeguard what few FTL ships are still remaining.

got to remember that the reason no one remembers how to do it is comstar had been killing basically anyone with a PhD plus the whole destruction of star league facilities

>>14705219

That's an old, beaten to death topic but fine. They're more adaptable in their use and deployment than tanks, more mobile than mixed infantry and potentially just as devastating as artillery or airforce but surgically applied and more self-sufficient. They don't need no airstrips, major ammo dumps or support vehicles or forces. It's also a major fault how almost none of these games do justice to anything but Mechs. Sure, I want my shiny mech vanguard but I'd also love to hire me some air support, lead them into a minefield or just pepper them with long range emplaced guns.

>>14705241

Ergo not pissing off ComStar.

>>14705260

Also probably owing to the fact that a frontline war mech can literally strap on 15 tons of metal as armor for a comparatively low surface area when compared to a tank and remain as mobile if not more, than a tank.

Ergo, logistically being able to supply for a larger, but inferior force doesn't matter if your enemies can just punch through your lines and destroy your supply fleet anyway.

>>14705303

Not sure if that's fair. In a stand up fight a tank company compared to a same weight class lance will arguably bring more firepower and more armor. And for lower resources spent. A mech lance on the other hand is a hell of a lot more independent and generally easier to have at the right place, at the right time.

>>14705303

> frontline war mech can literally strap on 15 tons of metal as armor for a comparatively low surface area when compared to a tank and remain as mobile if not more, than a tank.

Yeah see, the fact that something that should have to worry about center of gravity and has an incredibly complicated system of movement can just pile on armor with less penalties than something on tank treads or wheels is exactly the shit we mean about the rules gimping everything that's not mechs

>>14705034

The only character I could even think to call emo might be FRAGILE from 4 Answer, everyone in AC is either faceless, or pretty normal. Even the girls that show up are either businesslike, or just nice people like Merryweather.

>>14705317

Ah but then we get into the argument of war logistics. Can you assert that you can, even with numerically superior tank companies, be able to dictate the time and place of the engagement with all of your forces against a more mobile, possibly locally entrenched force? Or will your force end up being bypassed, flanked or possibly even simply ambushed in small pockets regularly until your supplies are spent more on repairing your troops than actually fighting an engagement.

Basically, the pitched battle setting of WW2 is long outdated. I don't even think anyone outside of kuwait in desert storm even attempted another pitched battle but that's because they were a bunch of tankophilic sandniggers. Historically, the taliban has also proved this point to almost every modern superpower up to now.

>>14705336

>Yeah see, the fact that something that should have to worry about center of gravity and has an incredibly complicated system of movement can just pile on armor with less penalties than something on tank treads or wheels is exactly the shit we mean about the rules gimping everything that's not mechs

I'll blame that on magic jew science that's too advance for modern mortal eyes.

>>14705345

I'm not asserting anything, rather I repeat that they both have a role to play. Just as infantry, fliers, gunships or whatever. And comparatively speaking you can generally buy as many as dozen heavy tanks for the cost of just one heavy mech. Ie one Demolisher goes for something around 2mil C-Bills while your average Timberwolf is 24-25 I think. That's for example 24 mech grade AC20s, PPCs or Gauss Rifles to a single mech's loadout.

And I'm not touching the WW2 bit. Bullying a country that has less than 1/50 of your military budget, no air superiority (or presence) is hardly comparable to relatively serious opponents duking it out and trying to hold territory. I'm also wondering where'd you get the idea that tanks were seriously last used in desert storm.

>>14705404

>I'm also wondering where'd you get the idea that tanks were seriously last used in desert storm.

Pretty sure desert storm was the last pitched tank company vs tank company battle. Did the battle for iraq in 2000s involved tank vs tank action? Pretty sure mechanized infantry took the country before any serious resistance could occur.

Sage for off topic, but how is heavy gear assault?

>>14705418

What tank company vs tank company battle? I'm pretty sure the US mostly bombed the hell out of Sadam before he folded. On the other hand you got shit still going on Syria.

>>14705460

The battle of 73 Easting, where the 3rd armoured division got into a direct firefight with iraqi T-62 instead of the usual indirect fire support wiping out everything that was the trademark of that war.

>>14705484

Herd a bunch of heavily outclassed, shattered enemies into a killing field with no cover and limited mobility all the while harassing them with absolute air and artillery superiority. Muh glodious battleXD.

Give me a break.

Campaign play is really fun in battletech, where assualting a defended position is hell, but really rewarding when you breach the defenses.

City fights vs infantry/battle armor are fucking hell

>>14705587

>herding into a killing field

You meant engaging a prepared defensive line filled with bunker complexes and actually having tanks do marching fire after indirect fire managed to take out the static bunkers but not the enemy tanks.

You give me a break.

>>14705587

>war should be fair!

Ahmed, it's not our fault your subhuman race can't fight.

>>14705668

>Sandniggers have on occasion been proven effective when armed and turned against each other.

This has never happened in the history of modern warfare. Iraq and Iran slogged at each other for 10 years without any noticeable gains by either side. You mudniggers are on the level of coons when it comes to fighting as actual humans.

>And I didn't say fair but there's no honor or dignity in calling a turkey shoot anything but.

When your opponent is a step above a cockroach there is no reason to be honorable or give them dignity.

>>14705668

I used 73 Easting because it was the only battle in desert storm where the Iraqis didn't entirely got their shit pushed in from the start considering that the reason why a marching fire was ordered was because the iraqis were entrenched and raining their own artillery down on US tanks positions ineffectively largely due to their lack of night fighting equipment. By the time we reached 74 Easting and Norfolk, it was the complete stomp of a routing army as even British tank battalions would easily rack up 50 tank kills in one go. You can take your kebab and shove it up your ass.

>>14705815

>Everything I don't like are SJWs AND Alt-right nazis the post.

Wew you just got to cover your bases don't you?

>>14694802

>literally stolen

If by "stolen" you mean "bought from the original designer".

>>14706162

Except the whole concept of Genetic purity, or how the clans are basically tyrinnical to their own sub castes for instance.

>>14706177

>implying Shoji Kawamori or any or those animu mech designers knew about Battletech

>FASA using jap designs that a toy licensor gave them even though said toy licensor had no legal right to lease the jap designs

<"bought from the original designer"

I don't think you know "bought from the original designer" means.

>>14705679

>This has never happened in the history of modern warfare

>2006 Lebanon

>2014 Gaza

>>14706188

Depends on the clan, doesn't it? The first invasion for example failed precisely due to the internal disagreement between the individual clans on whether they should even attack and let alone how they should treat IS populace. And I firmly believe that authority =/= tyranny or sheer exploitation.

>>14706162

Why should they latch onto anything? Battletech is as pozzed as it comes. The only reason it didn't include trannies since inception is because the concept was not popularized back when it was still popular.

I honestly have trouble thinking up any concrete reason why leftists would have a problem with Battletech in general.

>muh Clans with genetic engineering

They got so soundly defeated they stopped being an actual threat to the Inner Sphere, thus "proving" that genes don't make you superior. Oy vey.

>>14706231

>fighting cowardly Jews with gorilla warfare is the pinnacle of modern maneuver warfare

Read up on the difference between fighting wars between West and East, Ahmed.

>>14704563

>>14704578

>>14704698

Battletech was always a jewish thing but fuck they sure went far with the pozz.

>>14706318

Because it's what they do? And remember, it took a noble uniting other nobles to defeat them.

>>14704698

Why include heritage? What the fuck is British Nepalese? He's obviously not British, and she is not European.

>>14704882

It's a randomly generated one and it sounded vague Russian so I went with it. I've uninstalled the game because I just find it boring.

>>14694725

the battletech games were largely hit and miss anyway, they had a good run in the 90s and a bunch of really shitty near shovelware games surrounding them

>>14708782

>can't into IDs

Hello there cuckchan. Your shit setting is Jewish, created by a Jew for the Jews, live with it, or better yet, kill yourself.

>>14708843

What do you hope to achieve with this post?

>>14708860

its a /tg/ faggot in denial of the jewish infestation of his medium. He'd rather roleplay and shit up other boards than do anything about it.

>>14694694

what even is this shit. I havent heard about it til today and my friend keeps shillin it, I havent even seen gameplay yet

>>14708911

>turn based stradegy

nvm its trash

>>14708911

It is a turnbased mech gaem made in the crappiest possible revenue share licence Unity, where units rush across the screen to whichever of your mechs are on point (closest when spotted) and attack the same single hardpoint until they all die.

And then rest of the crap above as if it matters when the game is just crap.

>>14708927

There are quite a few solid games on the unity engine, but the devs have to know what they are doing.

>>14708968

Whom pay for the licence and get to the guts of the engine. Ya, know ones that employ coders and engineers first, instead of just diversity clowns clades.

>>14708968

Isn't SRR a unity game as well, even discounting the fun factor, SRR didn't run like shit.

>>14708914

>Turn based strategy is trash

YOU'RE trash.

>>14709053

>Going full /pol/

>>14709067

Never go full /tg/, else you'll wake up one day and realize you're defending Jewish product for free while embarrassing yourself by trying to be an internet tough guy.

>>14709053

>trying this hard to fit in

You are never going to get back that money you wasted on plastics and the time you burned on roleplaying kiked up trash.

>>14709166

You'll never be free of the yoke of the kike, no matter how much you bark and whine. The jew is eternal, and you are his plaything.

>>14709219

I wonder who could be behind this post

>>14709414

>if I use more buzzwords and formatting I'll stop sticking out like a sore thumb

>he pays to defend his jewish propaganda for no compensation

>you're a kike worshipper

<no, you're a kike shill

>no, YOU

riveting dialogue

>>14709508

But Battletech was invented by a Jew.

>>14709628

Please inform us how Jordan (((Weissmann))) isn't part of the tribe, Battlecuck.

>>14709628

Nigger he just named him.

>>14709602

>he is still damage controlling jewish propaganda

>he does it for free

>>14709654

>Show us the proof then.

His fucking name. Now show us proof he isn't. You can also take over written, pretentious, fart inhaling posts back to shitholes that warrant it, such as >>>/reddit/ and >>>/somethingawful/

>>14709737

>His fucking name

Its not even just his name

He works for HBS, the same studio which gave us this gender pronoun ridden mess.

>>14709786

He doesn't merely work at HBS, he owns the studio. He greenlit every single thing that is part of Battletech 2018.

As I said before, I like battletech, but it is something I grew up with. It has a shit ton of faults, I will admit that.

But the main issue that is being pushed now, is that all these issues that were never really present in the world is being pushed, like Muh Patriarchy, muh Diversity.

You want to make them really fucking sperge out tho, go there would be no trannies in most of the worlds, because hormone replacement surgery/medicine would just not exist because it would most likely be losttech/the supplies would be better off curing real diseases.

>>14709822

Is there at the very least mods and is the gameplay remotely decent?

Did the newer shadowruns even have decent fanmade mods and campaigns?

>>14709851

>Did the newer shadowruns even have decent fanmade mods and campaigns?

Yes, but only barely and what's more they were designed with that in mind.

>is the gameplay remotely decent

It's barebones. The lack of content is padded out by procedurally generated shit from pilots to gear and you're expected to play the same tiny maps again, and again. If it's anything like SRR I'd expect the next game in their series to be half decent.

>>14709851

I have yet to play hong kong nor seen any mods. But the gameplay is decent ish, takes bit of time that is sure, but I like battetech tabletop, which the game is pretty close to it. Which may be one of the main reasons a lot of people are turned off by the gameplay.

It somewhat scratches that itch, however they did the hardpoint system of MWO and previous battletech games, and it is hard to get varients of certain mechs,

Mech gathering is a lot harder than in the older games, which makes sense. There does seem to be some time wasting especially with travel, but xcom did the same thing where you got to wait.

Overall the game is decent, I would give it a 5.5/10 it scratches somewhat of that itch i have for megamek, its story is meh with lack of options plus the whole sjw parts of it, it does not run very well at all is one of the biggest faults of the game.

So yea a flawed project, an extremly flawed project to be honest, in the hands of a competent studio as well as you know not pushing the SJW stuff through, it could have been downright amazing.

Mods and later patches will improve the game. Especially the aryan supremacy patch. Lyran style with blond bombshells.

Or Fedrat style with freedom and frenchfries.

Side note on fedrat lore. Since when is it refered to as the federation? That shit is jacked and never been there.

>>14709880

Why in the fuck are you posting a single sentence and then double spacing? The fuck is wrong with you?

>>14709880

Alright, explain that spacing or >>>/reddit/

>>14696079

>Jews caused the fall of the Star League

Go home /pol/ you're drunk. Stefan Amaris is the only one to blame for SL's fall

>>14710530

Battletech doesn't shy away from establishing the Lyrans as being Protestants, Jews, and Muslims. At all. It's even in their side bar stat under religion fun fact they actually like to larp as German nobility.

>>14700020

>>14699919

So are the HBS Shadowrun games even worth it then?

>>14710650

Honestly: not really. Dragonfall is the best of them but even it is about as deep as a puddle. Play the Sega Genesis version, it's still the best.

>>14702545

Did he hit the nail on the head or something?

>>14710530

I personally consider Kerensky responsible. The motherfucker had the support of the strongest army in the area AND enough private investors to persuade them to abandon everything. I mean, how difficult would it be for him to establish himself or at the very least his candidate as the new head honcho and avoid centuries of power vacum caused indiscriminate slaughter?

>>14710849

Might as well wait for them to optimize and come out with their 200$ worth of DLC for the game. So when you pirate the game you actually get the completed game.

>>14709954

>>14710169

>>14709933

fuck I was posting on my phone, fucking spacing gets me every time and I end up looking like a newfag/redditer.

Combined arms not being in is a downside, but often we just do lance vs lance games so it is not something that pops up all the time. Not being able to do my huge ass infantry army of doom where i just play hellmarch is shit tho as well.

>>14710989

Yeah, guess I'll do that. It's a long time to wait, tho.

>>14711045

Can't even have elemental battles either since they chose an early time period.

>>14711104

Battle armor is really fun at least for inner sphere stuff. I am a huge fan of the Infiltrator MK 2 for instance. Leonidas is one of the best looking battlearmors out there.

Protomechs look good in the war of reaving books as well. I was working on a homebrew for IS protomechs for Blakists.

Essentially the idea was they take off their limbs, sort of a xcom mech suit sort of deal, and stick the torso into the protomech. So when they need to get out they are lifted out, put their limbs on, and go about their day.

>>14711060

I would say if you want to get your hands on it earlier, pirate it when and ONLY when someone, somewhere, somehow has developed a modification that vastly reduces the amount of fucking time wasted in the game. Compared to the XCOM 2 "stop wasting my time" mod, an equivalent one for this game would be "save me two years of my life." Literally 1/3 of your playtime in any mission will be just watching and waiting for the actions to resolve (and I'm being generous, it's probably 1/2).

Only ONE person has mentioned the engineer you pick up later in the story.

If you want a smoking gun for whether or not the game is pozzed, point to Farah the Burqa-wearing female muslim engineer.

>>14710849

I pirated it, played maybe 10 hours, uninstalled.

It's all kinda cool until you realize no it's not, most missions are just boring, strategy usually the same, and there's no sort of AOE ability or abilities at all, just direct-hit weapons and that's all that's ever fired.

Some find it hard but if you take the time to set up your mechs properly and follow some other tips you end up doing fine, but regardless it's still just… boring. So much of missions consists of you just moving your mechs from A to B. I even used Cheatengine to play the game at x5 speed (significantly shorter animations/delays/waiting) and it still felt like everything took too long to actually do anything.

I'd give you a laundry list of other grievances I have with the game but the takeaway is that I just Alt+F4d mid-mission when I realized I didn't care.

>>14710849

Just play this

>>14696139

I wonder with the GPU situation if it is grounds to sue for damage to property?

>>14705067

>AT&T come and wipe out my planet with lost tech

That sounds pretty fucking cool.

>>14710849

>because Paradox

I must have missed this one, what did they do?

>>14715754

They're Swedish take a guess.

>>14715826

Being Swedish is pretty bad on its on but it still doesn't answer the question. Did they replace their entire staff with a bunch of mystery meats?

>>14715754

Aside from being swedes, they keep releasing games that are early access in anything but name and then sell the updates as DLC.

>>14715754

I am in agreement, I thought the main issue was harebrained being filled with sjws

>>14704578

I'm pretty damn sure that Maderia is based off of one of the devs at HBS, down to the friggin glasses.

>>14715849

Stellaris humans are mostly mixed race or brown. There was a race mod posted to make them all white and the mod creator and mod were banned from the steam forums. This amongst many other decisions paradox has been taking lately, as well as several posts commending diversity, show that paradox has been pozzed and nobody should be giving them money.

>>14716437

>nobody should be giving them money

Them going crazy with DLC years ago didn't hint that at you already?

>>14716284

As easy as it may be to blame ecelebs, retards being retards wasn't exactly a surprise. What was one is exclusively choosing clueless people for early access coverage.

Taking the inbuilt audience for granted is the plague that infests [CURRENT YEAR] marketing like no other. No, having the official license isn't enough, whether that licence may be Star Trek, Star Wars or Battletech. The inbuilt audience isn't guaranteed. You can't ignore their expectations completely, neither in the product you bring to market nor in how you market it, because they can and will abandon a franchise if they feel neglected enough.

>>14717875

Than Battletech. You playing retarded or we talking honest to god brain damage?

>>14716348

>down to the freaking glasses

Don't forget the hipster facial hair and his luxurious SPACE SCARF

Dude literally wears a fucking scarf.

>>14716807

>adolf hitler

>leadership is 0

>edge isn't 1488

B for effort I guess.

>>14705219

1:myomer fibres which are basically artificial muscle make legged machines even more efficient than their wheeled counterparts. It's to the point where they developed mechs for civic uses like farming and construction.

2:Every non-mech vehicle takes more than one crew member to operate. Even the harasser needs two men. It's true that mechs aren't cheap and good mechwarriors aren't expendable, but getting a single guy to handle 25-100 tons of gun so intuitively would be a hell of a gamechanger no matter how it's used.

>>14712321

>Farah the Burqa-wearing female muslim engineer.

I laughed when I saw "they" as a pronoun choice and the cuck at HBS that did that lacked the awareness to make the default profile pictures not stereotypes. I cried when I saw not only is that forced, but her model looks like they slapped her head on an already finished male body and called ti good enough.

As for the game itself, If they would let the sandbox shine it will be good, as is its bare. Modders and DLC will save it. Sadly.

>>14724411

Not only that she had her marriage annulled.

>pirate this game

>go through tutorial

>first battle

>1 hour wasted on THE FUCKING FIRST LEVEL

>almost ending the battle

>game freeze

I'll never waste money on games.

>>14719187

>Don't forget the hipster facial hair and his luxurious SPACE SCARF

Oh don't worry Anon, I noticed that shit too. It was the glasses, facial structure and hair style that gave away the fact that they based this motherfucker off of Mike McCain.

>>14704932

>Why would anyone give a flying fuck about Battletech canon?

Because it's fucking good, that's why, you philistine fuck.

>>14705668

what the fuck is that image

>>14712341

i watched a few streams and it seems like only 3-4 mechs are viable with the rest being either garbage or dumpster fire