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>Buying shitty "remakes"

>Especially when they're published by Sony

Kill yourself

>>14334486

Okay nameless stranger whos upset on the internet. I will care what you think. Because you were nice about it.

Shill post

>>14334486

I don't know. The remake actually updates the graphics, unlike the HD remaster they released last time. It also runs better so I think it's safe to say this is the definitive version now.

>>14334496

So why the fuck should we care what you have to say, obvious shill?

Is SotC better on PS2, PS3, or PS4?

>>14334537

If you can play it on PS2, then I imagine original hardware will always trump remakes. However, if you have no PS2 and only PC you can try emulating but I don't think it emulates well at all. That leaves PS3 or 4. 3 has the HD remaster which is just the base game with some texture upscaling and a stable framerate. Not sure what the new PS4 version does exactly.

>>14334570

Did you play Shadow of the Colossus on a PS2?

>>14334537

PS3 is the worst because it is actually bugged and the PS4 version fixes it. They took a PAL build and reverse engineered it but altered both stamina and physics reactions to brute force them in a way that involved 30fps animations from the pal version on 25fps NTSC versions. If you have ever seen an american show on a uk tv show and seems 'off' like everything is in fast forward but still in real time it led to a similar effect in the background.

Basically if you stood up on a stable, flat part of a colossi you world instantly start tumbling like the boss did a barrel roll and your stamina depleted much faster. This then of course when translated from this format again lead to it being fucked up.

So you have the PS2 version and the PS4 version that actually behave the way as intended and the ps3 rushed out HD 'remaster' that like most games with the 'remaster' label are shittier versions with upressed textures.

>>14334591

Monkey Colossi never ever.

>>14334519

>definitive version

>when they ruined the entire aesthetic

You're just as garbage as this remake.

>>14334458

Is the OST remastered? Does the remake add any new content?

>>14334537

go for the PS2, they changed the atmosphere/art on PS4 so its shit.

>>14334635

OST is remastered but they don't add anything. It is the same game with updated graphics and none of the PS3 versions jank.

Though there is a nod to the autism of Nomad_Colossus at the behest of the original team.

>>14334638

The 'atmosphere' was fake HDR using texture warping on light sources to try and run bloom on emotion hardware. It looked nice but like silent hills fog it was a technical limitation leading to a look. They never intended it to look like that.

Enough with the goddamn shilling, not buying your shitty remake like swallowed up >>14334542

>>buying and supporting remasters instead of new risky IP

how to get cucked by companies 101

>>14334581

Sadly not. PS3 only.

>>14334689

Its bad but it might show there is demand for more like SotC.

>>14334709

Thats not how the board works friend. Any mention of a console exclusive in its month of release is always going to be 50% "fuck off shill" posts. Its the way its always been and always will be.

Reminder that the reason why this game got made was because they're trying to hype the dead-on-arrival movie.

>>14334661

That's disappointing.

The acoustic guitar that kicked up in Undertale just before Asgore got me like a bitch. I was crying. Also the fight with Asgore himself

>>14334542

>The remake was an excellent idea.

Yes, it was. They had the opportunity to make the game according to the original plan that was too big for PS2 (just like ICO was too big for PS1). Too bad they totally squandered it and just rereleased the same game. I hope the "this game is ART" crowd is happy for what they wrought.

>>14334764

Why is Sony pictures still alive.

>>14334738

>>14334593

>SoTC remake

>Completely botches art design, simplifies polygons and shits all over the textures

>The PS3 version is the bad version

>Y-you're just jealous

Textbook shill

Here's the music that affects me, now go suck a massive dick OP.

>>14334768

>>liking stuff that tries look like a shovelware from the 80s

there is no use in dwelling on the past if there is all this tech and talent to produce something new and original

>>14334458

Why did they bother remaking a bad game?

>>14334791

>defending the ps3 version ever instead of just going with ps2.

Motherfucker if you are going to post b8 at least play the games and know which versions are which. Fucking shameful tactics there m80

The sound track for SMT:SJ overtime became okay to absolutely god damn hypnotically good. The first time you hear these songs it sounds good, but over the course of hours and hours of playing this game it grows on you and whenever I started to hear it then I would thing, OH FUCK, SHITS GOING DOWN. I especially felt that way too with the chaos boss's theme, although you only hear it once, luckily I took the time to savor it.

That game was wonderful and perfect the way it was, fuck Strange Journey Redux.

>>14334796

>>14334790

Fuck off same Fag

Most of you guys may not give a shit but this song hit me real good when I reached it in the game.

>>14334801

1/10

>>14334803

> instead of just going with ps2

That's precisely what I do nigger and I wouldn't trade that sleeved box for anything.

I'm just making you aware that you're shitting on the PS3 version and yet are shilling for this remake.

>>14334827

The PS3 version doesnt fucking work right dumbass. Thats why its the worst version. It is fundamentally broken.

>>14334852

wut? I have it and it seems to work alright. Was there something they fucked up during the port?

>>14334856

It looks okay and the fact they didn't take the cheap route of killing the cute dog griffin at the end makes me more inclined to purchase it.

>>14334864

see >>14334593

>>14334867

>not wanting a big gf

u gay

>>14334871

ahhh, I didn't even notice. Well shit, I guess at least I have HD Ico. Looking on the facebook market now for a ps4 so I can play this.

>>14334458

the nigga did this in a trial version of fl and it still means more to me then any symphony

>>14334892

I can't sexualize the colossi man, it's just not right.

>>14334892

HD Ico is fine. In fact its a much better version. Of all the HD remasters of the period the only standouts were Shadow for Being technically broken, MGS3 having parts of the story and entire cutscenes removed because Konami 'wanted the game to be faster for modern gamers' and Silent Hill HD collection.

We don't talk about Silent Hill HD collection.

Anyone who's thinking of getting the remake shouldnt. The remake ruins the entire atmosphere of the original rather than some areas feeling desolate and vibrant they come off as generic and boring. Some sound effects and visual effects were cut from the game and replaced with more cinematic sounds. Why did they remove the fucking static on the screen when you paused? The physics dont feel like they originally did so you cant do the fun tricks you could do on the ps2 version by understanding how the games gravity works. Just emulate or buy a ps2 and the game faggots.

>>14334920

>MGS3 having parts of the story and entire cutscenes removed because Konami 'wanted the game to be faster for modern gamers'

I haven't heard this before.

>>14334939

Bet you can't even fall in the lake of the 2nd Colossi just right and survive.

>>14334945

>Vs I don't like a game

Yes, the remake is perfect in every way anon and you're totally not a shill.

>>14334458

>Buying a game you already own

You guys are killing the industry

>>14334542

Gas all Graphicfags

>>14334963

No matter how far you fall you dont take damage from dropping in water you idiot. Well maybe you do on the ps3 or ps4 but I only ever played and beat it on ps2

>>14334989

its better to play the original, just like god intended.

>>14335000

you don't take damage falling into water in any version unless you land in one of the death zones in some bodies of water that you aren't meant to be swimming in any way. The optional collectible coins in the remake are pretty great too. I found myself exploring many places I'd be interested in but otherwise had no reason to investigate in the ps2/ps3 versions.

What I find interesting about the remake is how the engine still feels exactly like the PS2 engine, so much so that I'm not certain if it's a true remake but rather a significant overhaul over the engine. Sort of like how the source engine is technically just an overhaul of the goldsrc engine.

>>14335008

nah, play whatever you want to. They're both good. PS2 has its share of problems that the PS4 version is far better with.

>>14335009

>Needing coins to explore

Honestly I explored out of curiosity and because the world was so peacfull and serene. Also, you dont need coins. Your collectables are fruits from trees and white tail lizzards. If you find everything you can even make it to the top of the main tower, (or so ive heard)

>>14335034

>>14335000

PS2 version

>>14335051

You dont hope there is a lizzard. There always is one next to the saving statues and sometimes they have a white tail. The white tail increases your stamina so its actually very important if you want to be able to hold a collosus for a long time.

>>14335065

Not all lizards are at shrines, some are at points of interest in the world, some aren't. I don't think you understand, I 100% completed the game on normal, normal+, hard, and hard+. SotC is literally one of my all time favorite games and I consider it an absolute masterpiece in design, pacing, direction, mechanics, and its system. It is unparalleled in many ways.

>>14335073

Its up there for me too. What compounds the feeling is the game intersected with a part of my life where I was more emotionally involved with the world around me and less burnt out. I don't think I could enjoy it the same way I used too.

>>14335102

Sure smells like kikery alright

>>14335148

It depend on the graphics honestly. SotC, Deus Ex, most source games, and a lot more have aged rather well, but some shit just gives me the eye cancer.

>>14335162

Some source games. There's been a lot of downgrades on the games assets since 2008 for some reason. Valve stopped using the specular maps, normals, etc. They nerfed the orangebox games, mostly tf2, but since 2008 they've all looked really bland. I think CSGO looks dramatically worse than CSS and it all comes down to how plain the texture work is. Before then however, hl2, ep1, css, dods, all held up really well and ep2 looks amazing.

>>14335127

The mega just keeps loading the page infinitely, wat do?

>>14335215

I don't know, I just tried it with two different browsers and they both worked. Consider using their extension.

>>14335232

It unfucked itself somehow, I guess my internet just borked.

>>14335148

>Do people actually think this? Am I just old and used to old graphics?

I used to send in those customer feedback cards in old ps1 era games complaining about the graphics. Somewhere around the ps3 era, graphics became good enough where I no longer care about graphics and the ps4 didn't seem such a leap.

>>14335311

There's been a lot of games on the PS4 that have really impressed me with their visuals.

>>14335335

stop taking the bait you retards

>>14334458

>remake

>doesn't even run at 60fps

Shame. The people who made it did a great job on the Uncharted collection.

>>14335495

It does run at 60fps, unfortunately you need a ps4 pro for it. Playing it in 60fps was a great experience. I'd have been happy for a 720p60 option on base hardware even, just so more people can play the game so smoothly.

>>14335588

>He owns a Pro

This thread is absolute cancer

>>14335588

>It does run at 60fps, unfortunately you need a ps4 pro for it.

Ok so they did it on purpose.

>>14335667

I don't know the specifics of it. I imagine the stock system wouldn't have been able to hit 1080p60, and I believe 1080p is a requirement for all PS4 games as a minimum resolution, so maybe they couldn't target it on base hardware.

>>14334898

This. Hardcore, makes me feel every time.

Some tracks that always get to me are the ones from OneShot and Undertale, but I won't stir that pot here. Morrowind tracks also sometimes give me the chills, but I know that's more just nostalgia than the tracks being emotional. They're good, but they're not particularly timed to anything other than fight/not fight.

>>14334458

Literally puts me to sleep. Fuck off fag.

>>14334591

Rereleases get fobbed off to inferior and/or chinese studios 99% of the time

Soyboys itt btfo.

I can't believe how shit modern music is.

Hey look, more music that doesn't suck shit.

funkiest vidya song of all time? maybe. that fucking slap bass

Obvious shill is obvious, hope you get paid for this.

>look at this remake, we updated the GRAFFIX

>also one feature and a half!

>that'll be worth the same shekels as a brand new game!

>>14334638

I like the atmosphere of the remake. It's not like they put SweetFX or ENB mods over it.

>>14334591

Models aren't really "content".

There were no proper finished animations/coding/map spaces to just add them back in.

>search

>no NieR

The best soundtrack I've ever heard. Honorary mentions to SotC and P3.

It looks real bad. The colossi used to look real, proper rock and grass. Now it's giant furries.

>feel real emotion from a videogame for the first time in maybe two console generations

The urge to suck dicks isn't an emotion, OP. Also you sound like a tremendous fruit.

>>14334570

>If you can play it on PS2, then I imagine original hardware will always trump remakes.

>imagine

>IMAGINE

Keep imagining bro, because when you see the actual 10 fps you get in-game, all that 'perfect gaym' memes you got from reddit will evaporate. Shadow of the Colossus on PS2 deserved all the criticism it got.

>>14336630

What criticism did it got? bro

>>14334458

>posting an entire ost

SNORE

>Win the set

or

>Hear this song

No matter how shit it is, I will always dragon install when given the opportunity because of Ride the Fire.

>>14335335

PS2 version also run like ass, so theres that

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=M4uR_fEmy1c

this motivates me

>>14334796

Not only have you got the decade wrong but the piece of music in question isn't something that could be done with that era of hardware anyway.

>>14336763

>implying they don't

If SotC is a prequel to ICO, does that mean Last Guardian is a prequel to SotC with the village elder being the boy from that game?

I don't understand /v/'s hatred towards remakes.

The people that buy them and want them get to enjoy a existing good game made even better by better visuals and/or extra features. If you don't think it's worth spending money just on those upgrades, then don't buy it.

>>14336182

Was just about to post it.

The soundtracks in both Nier games are stellar and really add up to the atmosphere.

Automata has some special moments such as the Opera boss Simone Beauvoir whose attacks are in sync with the music and then there's the way how the hacking minigame affects the music with instant, seamless transitions. Similar warp music effects are also obtained when using the random performance changer drug, which tends to alter the visual and auditory outputs by applying weird distortions to the music and gameboy/virtualboy/monochrome style palette distortions.

>>14339380

It's not the same at all. If enough people refuse to buy something it will actually make a difference.

>>14338950

People hate them because most of the time they're lazy cash grabs with the added benefit of bugs that weren't in the original.

>>14339407

So what you're saying is that theyre pandering to speedrunners

>>14339380

>Are you really pulling this shit anon? Seriously this on the same level as "well I like to see you do better!"

Normally, I agree it's a BS excuse. However, with remakes, I thiink it's a valid point. Typically, people use it as a way to excuse a shit game being shit. But with a remake, the original game already exists and still exists. "Just don't buy it" only becomes bullshit when applied to remakes if people use it as an excuse to sweep away complaints about how poorly it was remade under the rug

>s that remakes often don't have better visuals (making a game look good is a matter of talent, not hardware) and even less features than the original did.

I'd disagree. The majority of complaints I see about a remake's quality are about autistic bullshit no sane person would care about, like a minor texture change on a wall that has a slightly different pattern of brick or shit like that; or even when they are valid complaints, are still only 1 or two things done wrong when 99% of the remake is fine.

>>14339407

>People hate them because most of the time they're lazy cash grabs

So? Again, just see what I wrote in my original post. That's litterally just being mad that a publisher is able to make money with less effort with no downsides to either them or consumers who don't want them, unless the remake happens to be shit. You can't even argue that it's taking development resources away from original games since 99% of time remakes are handled by studios who specialize in doing remakes or ports.

>>14339491

>You can't even argue that it's taking development resources away from original games since 99% of time remakes are handled by studios who specialize in doing remakes or ports.

How does hiring an outside company to do something not take resources away from developing original games? Are you actually fucking retarded?

>>14339316

> in both Nier games

Nothing in automata comes even close to Deep Crimson Foe. It's just mood music.

>Fought in a civil war between Low Security powers.

>Held a wormhole in a last stand fight against the entirety of Pandemic Horde and Legion, survived for two days.

>Retired and etched out a living doing wormhole anoms with another corporation.

>All to this song.

>>14334458

>paying for re re release

This board should be called /soy/ tbh

>>14336542

I was under the impression that only the graphics were changed (and the only new thing added was the time attack mode)

>>14339510

I can think of a lot of music as good or better than deep crimson foe in the nier automata OST. Possessed by Disease is leaps and bounds beyond it.

>>14339607

time attack's been in there since the original game launched.

>>14336542

there's even less talking than in the original because you can disable dormin hints. I don't even know what you're talking about. The benefit of being able to start on hard mode is also very much appreciated.

>>14339633

Just stop browsing this board.

>>14339650

neir automata is reddit tier garbage

>>14339650

stop being a faggot and learn to back up your views hipster

>>14339506

Are you? If the studio doing the development doesn't work on original games then that's not time and effort being wasted.

And the amount of money that goes into making a remake is tiny, and is recouped many tims over. It wouldn't take away from funding other projects due to that and since remakes are almost always 'extra" projects to fill gaps.

>>14339510

Good one, but for me the "Nier theme" in general is Song of Ancients: Fate. It's the track that sold the soundtrack for me.

>>14336630

I don't really remember that game getting criticism for low fps at the time, mainly because shit looked amazing anyway and people didn't expect any better.

>>14340261

>>14336630

It emulates like ass too.

>>14339701

>Hire someone to do something

>You now have less money to spend on other things

Aw man what a big leap in logic. All you're doing is positing that every remake costs nothing and will be recouped which is a fucking retarded stance to take.

>>14340731

You'd think after all this time, you faggots would have figured out that goyim is the plural form of goy, goddamn baka gentiles. Now, you were wondering about a house loan? Interests rates are about to go up, you know?

>>14340785

>Goyim is plural

>Wander and Agro

>Not just Wander

The horse is a bad goy as well.

>>14338950

And the normalfags will fund this shitty practice. No thanks.

We won't buy it AND we will ensure that it always fail to make profit.

>>14339491

"…a publisher is able to make money with less effort…"

And that must never be allowed.

>>14339524

This.

Along with ever giving money to Sony for any reason at all.

>>14339701

Which still is reseling a product that was already made before. Paying for it is retarded.

All remakes are shit for the sole reason of being re-releases of already existing products.

It creates the worst kind of laziness, when companies release incomplete games, and use that as an excuse to resell them as "remakes" with "problems fixed" later.

And, the golden rule still applies: never give money to Sony.

>>14340328

It's also not how these works. It's generally the publisher, not developer who pays for and organizes these things. See the recent faggotry with NiSA and Lacrimosa of Dana's ports.

>>14334995

you mean the 80% of 8ch who complains about the pixels in indie games?

>>14338950

I have a few issues with them. The positive thing is that people who never played it can play it now, however:

If it was backwards compatible people still could play these games.

It encourages just putting out remakes instead of orinigal ideas just like the movie industry.

Sometimes I assume not in this case, but I've not played it the developers will completely change how the game plays and eventually the franchise will be different to what the fans liked.

Sometimes how the game looked before was fine, and in some cases better than the remake see The Wind Waker HD.

>>14334458

>paying $50 for a twelve year old game

Do you huff paint thinner, by any chance?