/v/ - Video Games

>>14286069

I fucked it up, previous thread is here >>14265642

>>14286106

i'm probably going to restructure the renderer to call back to whatever so it can run its stuff, then a call to TransformAndRotate or something to do all that work, then a reupload of all the geometry to the gpu, then a requeueing of raytracer program, rinse and repeat

>>14286117

In that case I'll wait a bit longer before making a thread.

>>14286169

I'm not worried about the bullying my fuckup will cause so much as I am worried that the thread will go off topic.

>>14286188

nah, no one really cares i was just kidding

>>14286253

clamp the sprite's draw position to integers and store your character's position as floats

>>14286270

This worked. Thanks a lot, m80.

>>14286087

There'll probably be some folks making fun of you, but that's really about it.

>>14286270

I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out why this solution works and I'm failing.

Throw me a bone, would you?

>>14286509

>>14286270

Because it's trying to draw a character in between pixels and it doesn't know what to bloody do with that. Depending on your interpolation mode, it'll either be blurry like that or clip into itself strangely.

You gotta remember that on a screen, there's no such thing as half a pixel. In math it's fine, since it's just a number, but it doesn't exist when rendering to the screen.

>>14286536

Take it from me man,

If you want to actually make a game use an already existing engine. Otherwise you'll be a year in and worry about random performance drops on dev graphic character collisions.

Engine dev, not even once.

>>14286536

It'd be dumber to try and develop outside your skill set. Programming a game engine yourself is a heap of work that requires a significant amount of prior knowledge.

>>14286536

Is the game secondary to the engine? If that's true then make your own engine or heavily modify one of the engines you like.

>>14286536

The only thing that will fix this is if you prove to yourself that you aren't an idiot. People can talk all they want about how it doesn't matter and it's a waste of time, that you should just use an engine, but that's not gonna get rid of the feeling of not really understanding how things work.

Plus, depending on the type of game, any kind of "engine" (including your own) might be just stupid. Not everything needs an all encompassing, fully featured engine. Don't be so quick to automatically conflate programming from scratch with enginedevving.

>>14286624

it's certainly not pickles.

>>14286544

>>14286560

>>14286642

Riddle me this, why is modern opengl such a pile of shit? Should I use GLEW or SDL?

>>14286644

What would you want the joke to be translated as then?

>>14286673

SDL looks better.

>>14286673

>why is modern opengl such a pile of shit?

The same reason the Windows API is shit: it's been developed for decades, so it's held back by bad decisions made a long time ago.

>Should I use GLEW or SDL?

GLEW is OpenGL. It's how you get the addresses of all the OpenGL functions supported by the graphics driver. As for SDL, it's great for the purposes of windowing and input. It might bother you to not understand how to handle those things with the system specific API (Windows API, or whatever the fuck they have on Linux), but you can learn how those work just by reading documentation if you want, and SDL is just so damn convenient. As for SDL's own renderer, it's alright for fast prototyping in 2D, but I'm not a huge fan.

>>14286747

what dev are you?

>>14286704

I have become a lot more forgiving of the windows API since I learned a little bit of Xlib and other Linux programming. You can really tell that Microsoft made a far superior API compared to what existed at the time. Also windows API doesn't change after it's released, the only difference is that new things are added and existing things can never be removed. So if I want to open a window I am using the same API that people were using in 1995.

>>14286794

Being better than Xlib isn't much of an achievement, given how X11 is a complete dumpster fire the unix community is desperately trying to get rid of.

>>14286747

Push yourself to do some stuff.

It'll keep your mind off the bad stuff, and while you won't be working at 100%, you can always come back and polish/fix/rehaul stuff later on.

>>14286747

I had your issue. Sometimes you have to just say fuck the world and blast Slayer. Recently I've been feeling like shit because I am surrounded by too-normal-for-reddit normalfags, but after listening to shit I haven't touched since highschool I'm back in action.

>>14286887

Woops. Didn't mean to reply.

>>14286842

>I wonder if 30 is enough for a puzzle game or if people are going to be wanting more.

How about as many good puzzles as you can, maybe 25% filler puzzles at most.

>>14286807

I understand, it would be interesting to see a window manager with a better API. Maybe Plan 9 or Haiku have nicer systems, whenever I look at my unix-specific code it just seems a lot poorer looking than my win32 code.

>>14286909

I've not tried really hard music yet, maybe it'll help

>>14286932

The thing about it is you kind of have to get latched onto the momentum the song has (having decent speakers helps). Especially if it's a really long one that goes through all sorts of twists and bends. Vid related. It starts out absolutely fucking dismal and just builds up until it's absolutely flying at the end.

>>14286914

Hopefully all of them would be good, but I'll admit I'm having a lot of trouble thinking of anything interesting past 23.

I could just go with the old survival horror standby of collect-and-use-X-on-Y quests.

>>14287081

>ghosts" decrement their alpha over lifetime

It looks good right now but you're right in that they need to fade away and a little faster at that.

>>14286842

If you structure it a certain way, you can get way more than 30.

For example:

>Puzzle A 1 (Basics)

>Puzzle A 2 (Basics + secondary element)

>Puzzle A 3 (Real puzzle)

>Puzzle B 1 (Basics)

>Puzzle B 2 (Basics + secondary element)

>Puzzle B 3 (Real puzzle)

>Puzzle C 1 (Basics of both A and B)

>Puzzle C 2 (Basics of both A and B alongside their secondary elements)

>Puzzle C 3 (Real puzzle)

This way you can build on top of what you already know, all while keeping the progression smooth and the quality of puzzles consistently high.

>>14286991

Are you making a 40k game or is it just a coincidence.

don't let gw find out

>>14287364

I really like that. That sounds like an absolutely fantastic idea, thank you.

Maybe in different sections the puzzles are themed after a certain core mechanic that keeps popping up, with a couple breaks for different mechanics to spice things up a bit.

Plus, dev-wise, it makes things easier for me since I can pretty much repeat certain puzzles multiple times, just doing more with it.

>>14287420

>>14287414

I'm making this model for the 40k scene in Table Top Simulator. The only models available are those that can be ripped from the games which are pretty bad ones that can be 3D scanned which also end up poorly and ones that people hand make with 3D programs.

>>14287286

very nice, now implement confused turtle

>>14287467

wut

>>14287497

It's just bashes and hugs, you exist to push things off of high places

>>14287485

>not wielding one polearm in each hand

>>14287501

>>14287509

in any case i don't have a shield bash animation at the moment, so i can't really do much

>>14287521

You can make a shield bash animation.

>>14287569

>>14287514

If you can one-hand a two-hand weapon, you should instead two-hand a four-hand weapon

>>14287569

the only reason to do the knife/spear combo is to knife people very up close, which you kind of fucked up if they managed to dance around your spear.

>>14287589

You mean to say that having a backup plan is not a good idea? You know versatility and flexibility is like the name of the game in a fight, right?

>>14287687

make my game then

>>14287692

explain

>>14287694

I'm kidding

>>14287701

but what is the joke

>>14287546

You should look into Root Animation if you want to go for realism, that sidestep is really weird

>>14287708

me

>>14287574

>not dual two handers

>>14286747

>particularly bad episode of depression and it's not getting better, at all. If anything, it's getting worse

anon, my advice to you: depression is a biological issue more than a psychological one

fuck pills, stay away from that shit, depression drugs only aggravate the issue

shake your self off, force yourself to do some activity,

> get proper nutrition

> do some exercises

> walk around outside and just take the environment in

> get rid of attention hookers, like drop your electronics or even go off the board for a while

> get into doing stuff again, like cleaning your house or cooking, manual labor is good for the mind

> get back into being productive, the satisfaction of accomplishing something is reward on itself

> get proper nutrition, eat fucking fruits and protons

>>14286747

See tutorial

>>14287794

why do you do something that's easy and takes ten minutes, when you could spend a few years learning how to do it my way?

>>14286851

As you've pointed out you have signs of depression.

Doing something like "getting in the flow" of music isn't confronting the issues you're having, but it may help you to stop overthinking; as overthinking is stress, and to continue that cycle is an infinite loop of depression (archetypal hell).

One skill everyone has to learn, as to survive in the modern world (I.e. a world where technology, and complexity of life; has advanced far quicker than our wisdom, and ability to handle the complexity); is to refine the "mode of being", that has the goal of not overthinking (getting in the "flow" of something, is a guide to how to2 do this). As there's a time and place for everything.

For example, I used meditation to learn how to "get in the flow" in daily life, and to just be the experience; instead of some experiencer who overthinks everything.

There could also be other issues in your life you're not noticing, due to being too "involved" in your conscious awareness (the "point of attention" which most people define themselves by, I.e. Conscious awareness feedback loop of internal to external world, which is only a tiny facet of your being); so you end up missing what is unbalancing your internal being.

Again, "getting in the flow", and learning to observe the experiencer can help a lot here; as to determine what is unknown to the conscious attention, but known (and surfacing as depression) via the subconscious.

>>14287794

>the character should always move independant of the animation

I disagree, having an animation based movement can make movement and positioning much more important during a fight

>>14287775

Matrices seem complex because it's a lot of fucking operations, but it can be rewritten into a few loops instead.

Basically, the whole deal with matrices in gamedev is that you want to throw a N-dimensional vector against a M-by-N matrix which then produces a new M-dimensional vector. In graphics, this often means throwing a vertex position (x,y,z,1) into a matrix, producing the appropriate position on the screen.

The matrix multiplied with in graphics is just several matrices multiplied with each other, each performing a different operation.

In practice, a matrix is just all the factors you have to multiply your vector with and then add up. For example, if you have a 2D vector and have a 3-by-2 matrix that thus produces a 3D vector, then the 6 values that the matrix consists of are basically just:

>how much of input.x ends up on output.x

>how much of input.y ends up on output.x

>how much of input.x ends up on output.y

>how much of input.y ends up on output.y

>how much of input.x ends up on output.z

>how much of input.y ends up on output.z

Which can be written as a simple loop:

float in[2] = {your 2d input vector};
float out[3] = {0};
float m[3][2] = {your 3-by-2 matrix transform};
for(int i = 0; i<3; i++) {
    for(int j = 0; j<2; j++) {
        out[i] += in[j] * m[i][j];
    }
}

It's just that nobody writes the actual loops because nobody trusts compilers to do vectorization for you.

Once you properly grasp this, all the matrix operations (addition, product, …) should come natural. Product especially is just a gigantic fucking calculation that is only terrifying due to the sheer amount of calculations, but can be simplify just as easily.

Some examples/tutorials

https://open.gl/transformations

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/07/Linear-algebra-for-game-developers-part-3

>>14287830

>movement and positioning much more important during a fight

and unresponsive

>>14287841

Not if you do it well. Look at Chivalry, it feels great to play.

Without it you just get a clunky and weird combat system

>>14287840

>linear algebra

that's the name,

the thing is I knew how to do these operations(matrix adding product and etc like you've said), but I don't remember shit

so I wouldn't even know where to apply them in gamedev, but I've guess is more useful for 3d stuff

but thanks, I'll read into those links with more depth later

>>14287860

Great argument, real quality discussion

>>14287858

only thing i can think of is getting a direction from another transform's point of view

other than that, pretty much everything is just dot/vector products

>>14287858

It's actually pretty useful too in 2D gamedev. It's just that if you don't grasp the subject, doing a project without it entirely takes just as much extra effort as understanding it does, so you can get away with it just fine.

>>14287861

>>Look at Chivalry, it feels great to play.

>>14287866

>these animation bugs are somehow indicative of the combat system not working or not being fun

What are you trying to say here?

My point still stands, Oblivion does the same thing and it works

There's no game that doesn't do sword combat combat based on animations that doesn't absolutely feel like shit

>>14287874

oblivion does not have your movement tied to animations, it's the animations that sync with the movement instead.

You can go from fullspeed moving left to fullspeed moving right instantly, independent on where you are on the walk animation. Which is why the movement is nice and responsive

>>14287874

>>these animation bugs are somehow indicative of the combat system not working or not being fun

yes, they are?

the animation bugs are a result of the system not being thought through completely

>>14287881

You can't actually believe that cherrypicking a bug with no reference as to how often it happens and just use that as proof that the system doesn't work.

I've played 50 hours of chivalry back in the day and I've never encountered this once.

>>14287880

Are you sure?

Nevermind about that I guess

>>14287887

>I've played 50 hours of chivalry back in the day and I've never encountered this once.

it's literally why most people quit the game

all the high ranking duel servers do this

all of them

100%

go in the game right now, join a high ranking duel server, and everyone there will be doing this

why? because they can

the combat system was not designed to be used like this, and they did nothing to fix it

>>14287891

Wait so this is an exploit used for duels?

Well then no fucking shit it looks bad, it's still not how most of the combat works

Not to mention the system still works great in the vast majority of cases

>>14287901

>it's still not how most of the combat works

well technically it is, you could pretty much kill someone behind you by accidentally doing an overhead swing

besides, it still has issues

example being the vanguard charge - pretty much teleports you and misses half the time, unless you're using a spear

the game is pretty much riddled with oversights

>>14287914

you really want me to spend a year working on animations when the game doesn't even have close to all the ideal features ready?

>>14287920

You don't have to work a year on ONLY animations, mr autismo - you can simply make them when you need to and get better that way

>>14287925

but i don't need them right now

>>14287931

Well you clearly need a shield bash

>>14287932

yea, but i don't need a professional AAA tier shield bash

>>14287936

Sounds like you're looking for excuses, anon. Just animate a shield bash and take some time to do it right. You'll benefit from the experience.

>>14287941

but the current one works >>14287794

New renderer layout:

Two callbacks

- ReadyForFrame

- DrawFrame

Ready will be the engine loop, in which objects are prepared, Draw will, well, draw things.

TranslateAndRotate will process geometry, and then run GPUUploadGeometry for the next frame after ReadyForFrame, and before the next frame is drawn.

At 120fps, this gives us around 8ms to prepare for each frame, at 240fps 4ms, and so on.

This is doable.

CPU Power!

I don't know why I'm using like proper capitalization, I never use it.

>>14287914

shit reload animations

>>14287914

I'm manic-depressive (bipolar) so I understand the biological standpoint, and agree it can predicate someone to this mode of "internal workings" for the mind (being more succeptable to depression, anxiety, etc).

However, Ive experienced that medication is a crutch, and does not solve the real issues; it only serves to mask the symptoms until your next dose (the root cause of the issues are never solved).

Again though there's another however, sometimes one needs "grounding"; be it reprieve from the constant darkness of depression, or the thrills of mania; then medication is being used in a responsible manner. So meds can defintely be useful there, but only as a temporary grounder, if things get to the point of a possible implosion/breaking point.

Even just "having them around" as a possible last resort, for your internal mind state, it can give you the preconception that if it gets too much you have help; you don't even have to take them to get that placebo of knowing it's easily available.

Good, I'm glad you're thinking about trying meditation.

Id reccomend to look at Alan watts, and his talk on meditation; I think it's called "Alan Watts - How to get out of your mind" on YT.

Though there's different approaches for each person, and you'll just "know" when you've found it.

Learning about the mind, and your "enemy" (your mind hosts your depression, depression is your enemy, thus by extension your mind is your enemy); will give you much needed knowledge to handle these types of issues.

I find Carl Jung, Nietzche, and Freud to have insights that I myself have dawned upon; that I found to be true through experience.

Jordan Peterson is also a great introduced on this topic (look at his lectures).

After all that stuff is settled, get back to making vidya, and you'll again be able to enjoy it; for what it is.

Random anon checking in just to say that good job to all of you and good luck with the projects.

If some anon is having thoughts about starting to learn this, my advice is:

Start with the basics.

Go through all the evolution of games, don't rush or you will burn yourself.

I started to follow an isometric rpg tutorial, but it can get really complicated (for someone who hasn't programmed ever)

So I stepped back and saw this as another discipline, like drawing, where you have to start with the basics figures before you can progress to advanced things.

So I started with pong, tinkered a bit with the code for fun, later arkanoid, tinkered with it too, and lastly asteroids.

It's easy, it's fun , it's practice, and you can make one each day.

Practice makes perfection, so keep working.

Now i'm going to try doing pacman, so i can understand how the pathfinding works.

Godspeed fags.

sage for blogposting

>>14288265

nice job and nice advice

people tend to forget how bad they were, how incapable they were or how dumb they were after 9 years of coding experience. Making simple stuff is pretty hard for beginners, and making hard stuff completely impossible

>>14288641

That's right, but I dropped my Rust mod a while ago so that's that.

>>14288666

It doesn't help that you're also a redditor and satan himself.

>>14288808

What dev are you?

>>14288864

All this time and you still can't stop acting like a cancerous faggot.

>>14288887

quints

>>14288889

fuck

>>14288888

>>14288890

>>14288889

The sad part is that I could have claimed those quints myself if I hadn't reloaded the front page a couple times to see who would claim them.

>>14288864

i literally started the original agdg threads, you don't see me waving my dick about

>>14288904

waving my dick about and saying that I've been here for 4 years to someone that calls me an outsider are two different things

stop being dildos and post some progress

>>14288927

You have severe, aggressive autism and you should donate your brain to science.

>>14287286

>oblivion music

nice

>>14288999

At least I don't dedicate my life to tracking down someone I dislike and then derail generally chill threads once I find them.

>>14286755

>pretends to not be known

>then admits to being one the biggest redditor faggots in recent memory that jealously tried to fuck over Sigmadev's threads, ruined multiple /agdg/ threads, talked down to all advice, made himself laughing stock in webm threads and now is blogposting looking for pats on the back

Post progress or fuck off you obnoxious cunt.

>>14288333

>>14288666

>>14288999

I really really like these trips.

>>14289022

>ruined multiple /agdg/ threads

but you're ruining one right now

>>14289035

don't you know? if you're the focus then obviously it's your fault and not the people you're just responding to

>>14287914

On the 3rd webm, the one with the punch, how did you do that elbow wobble despite fist staying in place once it reaches it's hit position? Looks pretty good, like the softer meat and fat is catching up with the hard punch.

>>14289051

I'm moving the IK target back and forth slightly, and the IK pole up and down. I'm also probably staggering the shoulder bone, so it catches up with the fist after the punch. This altogether makes it seem like there's a backlash going up the arm.

>>14289022

It's been literally a year since we first saw him, and he's still at the phase where he is posting screens of his blender. And it's not like he's actually making progress, he's just posting the same character models and same weapon models without any actual game to show for it. I've still yet to see a single screenshot of him with an actual game or his shit in an actual game engine.

the site is so small that autists are running into the same autists, my guess is when will you learn. after everyone has left?

>>14289101

it's comfy, anon. At least it feels like an actual community.

>>14289116

hasn't been comfy in such a long time tbh

>>14289087

Is there any evidence you're mentally ill and not just a regular idiot?

>>14289136

I've definitely got depression and what seems to be generalized anxiety. I mean, these two things are self-evident. I could have a variety of other things but I can't afford a therapist so for now this is about as specific as it's gonna get.

>>14289123

I don't know, man. I've had several spergouts on here and the community is tight enough that they were documented and linked together, promptly. I thought 8ch was starting to bloat with newcomers but it seems to still have plenty of steam.

>>14289186

>the community is tight

lol no, once one autist has something over you you're not hearing the end of it

>>14289201

making speebot into a good game would be the first thing rather then port it to switch

>>14289204

Time flies - the fucking Avengers movie came out 6 years ago, and the first Iron Man roughly 10. Oblivion came out 12 years ago, Skyrim came out 7 years ago. Boston bombing happened 5 years ago, and so on. We're also about 1/10th into 2018 already.

>>14289211

Yeah, but everyone is bonding over it, though.

>>14289224

no they're just autistically screeching at you

>>14289201

How difficult would it be to make a Love2D port to it, I wonder? It doesn't have native support for it.

>>14289232

Well if there was one place where it was acceptable to autistically screech at people, it'd be an imageboard.

>>14289211

Not only are all of your posts either shitposts, useless advice, or sucking up to Rustfag, but now you even go and insult Keyreal and call Speebot shit? How about you get the fuck out of here along with Rustfag?

>>14289250

it's shit because it's literal flash game tier

>>14289250

anon, if you hate everyone on here this much you might want to consider leaving yourself

>>14289280

>>14289266

I hate just about no one here except you two, considering I know who one of you is and I'm pretty sure I recognize the posting habits of the other, and he's done nothing but shitpost with lego chainsaws and shitty "someone should make X" posts.

>>14289301

what's wrong with lego chainsaws?

>>14289239

The issue is that Love2D has several GPL and LGPL dependencies, and since several of those (mostly OpenAL but possibly others) would need some modification to run on the Switch, you would have to release the source code of your modifications and Nintendo won't take too kindly to that.

>>14289301

The other one is wolfspider and has unfortunately latched on to these threads like you've already noticed.

>>14289304

Apparently Pocket Rumble was made with Love2d, and has a Switch port. Wonder how that guy worked it out.

>>14289364

Because it's like three degrees of autism laid overtop one another. You have to be a nerdy cunt at least to some degree to like videogames, then you have to be slightly autistic to like them enough to want to make them, and then you have to be enough of an autist to post on here. If you're this much of an outlier, chances are fairly high you're a weirdo.

>>14289374

The ones that are hopelessly fucked in the head never finish anything though. You need a certain level of routine and restraint to get somewhere, autism or no. Rustcuck has been around these threads for ages, yet has nothing to show for it and still acts like a person of authority. I see it time and time again and it pisses me off.

>>14289386

Not even gonna bother formulating a proper post. Spend less time posting here about your feels and go exercise or something. You're getting nowhere in life and are an energy siphon on the people around you.

>>14289364

>Why is it that game dev always attracts the most mentally ill people?

It's communities in general, we tend to drive away those attention seekers by being pseudo-anonymous and bullying them for whining/namefagging/degeneracy. It always works. I've never ran into someone too autistic to be bullied into submission.

>I don't want this place to become cuckchan /agdg/. I have nowhere else to go.

We had people defending a newfag signing his post with "Fred" while wishing someone a happy birthday, the other day, we're already somewhat infected.

>>14289416

>happy birthday joe, it's me fred :DDD

>hi fred, thanks for telling me about this super cool anonymous image board!

>>14289416

>people defending a newfag signing his post with "Fred"

>I've never ran into someone too autistic to be bullied into submission.

it's like you say words and you don't even hear your self or connect your actions

>>14289416

>We had people defending a newfag signing his post with "Fred"

I miss when "lurk more" was still a thing people said. Then again, I don't know if you can educate everyone.

>we're already somewhat infected.

That goes for the site as a whole. These threads have been mostly fine for a while, at least. I've tried filtering shitposts but unless everyone does it, it's pointless.

>>14289444

>Then again, I don't know if you can educate everyone.

Trips of truth. September never ended, and it never will.

>>14289364

Creativity and autism go hand in hand, unfortunately. There's lots of things at work.

People getting invested in their ideas to the point of obsession, working with machines and programs to the point of forgetting how to deal with humans, getting upset over questionable things and either manufacturing drama or trying to take some people down a peg, lashing out at the world and pretending you're a misunderstood martyr, or more.

It's a shame, but there's always going to be something like this in every community. You just have to push it towards something productive.

Me, I just like making things, my autism is 100% invested in tinkering with shit and putting things together to see if they work or not. Sometimes this works against me because I get excited about an idea, work on it, and then move on once I don't have much more to do even if some people wanted "more" from it. But, ultimately, I've always been the kind of guy to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks.

>>14289393

Stop being so tsundere

>>14289448

Tell me about it. I feel like things weren't this bad even 10 years ago, but nowadays I feel increasingly out of place. I hate the fact I regret coming here more and more.

>>14289466

Godspeed, MoM. Your characters may be gay as hell but your game looks cool nonetheless.

>>14289434

What's the connection there? You do understand that because something CAN be done, doesn't mean people will do it as a whole, right?

>what do you mean everyone can die?

>how do you explain all these people who aren't dead?

>it's like you say words and you don't even hear your self or connect your actions

This is either low quality bait or you need to fuck off to halfchan's agdg.

>>14289477

because everyone bullied you to fuck off with your retarded shit and yet you're saying that like you think you're in the right

>>14289484

lurk more

>>14289490

git gud

>>14289468

get the fuck out kid diddler

>>14289466

>ingrediants

goddammit have some pride in your work

>>14289551

>ingrediants

T-The English Language is very complicated!

I'll fix that right away

>>14289575

You should probably have someone proofread your entire game's writing at some point. There's quite a few typos you make.

>>14289579

I actually am going to plan to do that. Every writing from now on will be proof read by two people, just to make sure it doesn't suck.

Writing really isn't my strong point unfortunately. Well, more so correct grammar.

>>14289584

i used to be an editor for a magazine, and if you want some help english is one of the only things i'm genuinely good at. don't let my lack of punctuation or capitalization fool you

>>14289584

You're lucky that's just about the easiest thing to fix.

>>14289598

GamePro

>>14286644

>>14286610

Stop with your "all localizations r bad!!" shit

There are times when dialogue needs to be changed to make sense like with puns, and arguably niche cultural references, and by definition that counts as localization. It's how they rework it that's important. Loss of context, change of character, inclusion of shitty memes, changes in character dynamics, basically anything cardbordo tree-house does are all markers of localization gone awry.

>>14289599

ACTUALLY, not so much in the case of my game. You know how the way the text box works in my game?… yeah, the Doom engine doesn't naturally do that. Every time I change text, I have to go through the process of counting how many letters they are so they make the "Boop Boop" noise it does as the text scrolls. It doesn't take too long, but every revision is a minute of work.

>>14289909

>not automatically distributing your beepity boops with custom allocation revision engine technology

>>14289896

Looking good! Your outside textures remind me of diablo 1

also did you implement boarderless windowed yet?

>>14289946

Thanks, I hope it will look good in full-res as well. Keep a look-out.

>did you implement boarderless windowed yet?

I wanted to add a choice between exclusive fullscreen and borderless windowed for the demo day. Guess what. Unity allows the game to ONLY use ONE of the two once it's built. I'll be looking for some workaround for this because it's annoying as hell

>>14290033

did you do the weird winter jam?

do you know that your pokemon snap game was streamed on vinesauce?

after seeing the entries it's right bullshit that one indie pixel shit won over your game tbh

python is a good first step in the just like make game process, right?

>>14290062

That wasn't me, mate. I don't do jams aside from resistjam, fuck that was fun . The guy who made that game saw that his was on Vinesauce and mentioned it in the last thread, though.

>>14289316

>wolfspider was in AGDG

jesus christ, I thought that faggot stayed in his containment 4am thread

>>14290074

musta missed it

>>14290076

He's all over the board.

Just look out for the sole nigger who end his sentences with "tbh"

>>14290081

Never seen him do that before, but I know the other genesisfag used to post with tbh and a plethora of other nigger acronyms, and I know for a fact that he isn't spider. Guess that was to poke fun at spider, huh?

>>14290081

Wait, does he speak like on coke?… He tested out my demo when I posted it on my Birthday, and I couldnt understand a single thing he was saying. I thought he was trying to get under my skin

Why's he called wolf spider?

>>14290098

he's an avatarfag

>>14290142

How the heck did you make a raytracer do thread-unsafe stuff? They're "embarrassingly parallel".

>>14286851

I've always thought of depression as the inability for your mind to correlate activities in the past with happiness and activities in the future with happiness which leads to a feeling as if you could live for a million years and not find a single spec of happiness during that time. It does not prevent you from feeling happy, it just prevents you from reminiscing or looking forward to something. If you do find a moment where you are happy or enjoying yourself, it will inevitably slip into memory where you will no longer be able to recognize that happiness. As such, I believe a common treatment recommended is to keep written records of times when you were happy or enjoying yourself so you can refer back to them when you're feeling down or despondent. Ideally, it's to make you logically realize that your life isn't bleak and devoid of happiness and hope.

This is just ramblings of an armchair psychologist though

>>14290166

TranslateAndRotate, the function call that prepares objects(by translating and rotating them) for the GPU fails horribly with multiple threads. It's a non-issue, since with this few objects TranslateAndRotate isn't a bottleneck.

>>14289983

>spoiler

unity is garbaaaaaaage

I'm sure there is a workaround though. If it's not an insane amount of trouble, maybe switch it to borderless windowed for demo day, then workaround later

>>14290033

that is cute

What's the dates? I might do something if I'm not working

>>14290248

not saying that you're evil or anything, but staying inside just brings up my feelings of loneliness and other dark thoughts, i do it anyway, because the outside is scary, i don't know, programming gets frustrating and i'm just flat-out incompetent at the one other thing i want to do(composition). but i still do it anyway, every day, so what even matters. what a horrible incoherent ramble

>>14290285

composition as in music or as in writing?

>>14290296

music

>>14290305

I'd consider that part of game development, unless you're also composing outside of games.

>>14290317

i doubt my raytracer will ever be practical in a game, also composition is personal to me

I'm so fucking tired of unity. Their active documentation links to obsolete and deprecated functions, which I'm sure don't work as expected or at all.

>>14290784

I have a weird bug whenever I load a game made in unity of the entire window flickering then minimizing whenever I click. I don't know what causes it, and I hear nothing good about it, I'd stay away.

>>14290807

I have constant, daily issues with poor unity documentation or crashes yet whenever I google for solutions there's an army of retards ready to state that they've been using Unity for years and have never had it crash on them.

>>14289896

your game looks great but the programmer art makes me weep, pls find an artist friend

>>14290062

link to the video? i don't know the name of the game

>>14291486

video is here:

https://youtu.be/4flbxXF9AAA?t=22m38s

might be this game, not sure:

http://ejew.in/games/oligocene-snapshot/

>>14291592

How about these robes? Space for a primary colour (white here), secondary (patterned), tertiary (blue) and a trim (gold). Plus already heavily associated with the occult.

I'm having some trouble, conceptually, getting decent lag compensation in a fast paced multiplayer game. Right now, everything looks great on the server, but clients can get hit from a mile off because of a small change in angle. I might just break everything up into separate RPC calls, one for the aiming phase and one for the actual firing phase.

>>14289201

<able to port the game to the switch

<but not port the game to linux

NEVER EVER

is it too much to ask for us to talk about things related to games or game development here? instead of whining about being saaaaad and bitching about our devs that have actually published games.

>>14292094

6/10 should have had a narration like vid related

>>14291815

This would be nice, but people are hooked on emotionposting.

I don't think I posted this yet. It's a camera test video, the first like 30 seconds are all that matter, everything else is old news. Next video will have sprites and 'computer' toggleable trip lasers working.

>>14286842

Make a decent editor so people can make and share puzzles.

>>14292196

>make a decent editor

>for a DooM WAD

>>14291815

>expecting anything else from the most emotional place on the planet

>>14292209

O.. oh, It doesn't look very much like Doom.

>>14292345

You can't bone a lich.

How hard is this to get into again?

Thinking of making a 2d platformer with combat like dead cells, salt and sanctuary or rogue legacy and maybe a cyberpunk story/setting

Where should I start? I dont know much about art as in music and graphics/artstyle

How do I teach myself that?

Should I use Unity c# or some other engine?

could I do it in half a year?

>>14292364

Well, shit, can't argue with that.

>>14292372

no

>>14292372

>How hard is this to get into again?

Depends how much you care and how much you like your project

>Where should I start? I dont know much about art as in music and graphics/artstyle

Make a prototype. Follow a few simple pixel art tutorials, maybe start drawing.

Code basic movement and interactions without assets, then browse twitter #pixerart or #pixeldailies and find an unknown artist to collaborate with 50/50.

>Should I use Unity c# or some other engine?

If you're really new to any kind of game making Unity's great. You will get stuck eventually, using Unity basically means that you won't have problems in case that happens.

After that it's really about what business model you like the most.

>could I do it in half a year?

Probably a year, depending how much content you want to make and how fast you work

>>14291486

here

>>14292372

If you don't like pain but are okay with worse performance and input lag, learn C# and do Unity.

If you're not okay with the above things and are a masochist, learn C++ and use UE4, but be prepared for autistic syntax the likes of which humanity has never seen before and Epic regularly fucking something up and taking months to fix (e.g. multiple instances of Visual Studio opening up in the background and eating your resources). Also if you elect to use UE4, you pretty much need Visual Assist, which is a paid plugin, but I ended up pirating it because fuck paying 100$ for it. (that said, the amount of things this plugin does almost justifies the price in my mind. It's actually pretty good and I'm amazed that Microsoft didn't buy it yet to include in Vanilla VS).

I don't have any experience with Godot, but it seems like anons like it? Not sure.

>can I make games without coding?

This is a complete and utter meme, don't even bother with any of the "visual scripting" gimmicks that UE4 and the like push out. Those are assistant and rapid prototyping tools, at best. Programming is really, honestly not that difficult. You just need to have a basic understanding of logic and some determination. Things will snap into place as you practice, just remember the following:

1) If you're having a difficult time understanding something, read the explanation in multiple places and then ask around in gamedev communities. There are plenty of forums and (((disagreement))) servers where there's tens of thousands of people that for whatever fucking reason seem to be literally living and breathing to help amateurs. These people have crammed into my head within a day what my CS teacher could not within a year. I can't stress enough how much having someone else explain something to you one-on-one makes a difference.

2) If you're having a seriously hard time, chances are you're doing things incredibly wrong and you need to take a step back and not be afraid to carve out walls of code. (I just recently tried to implement octrees without encapsulating them in a big boy class. I broke my brain in 12 places before I realized how fucking retarded I was being.) Step back and ask people if what you're doing is retarded.

You learn as you go along. You don't learn everything right away and then implement the knowledge - you start at zero and get better over time.

The same does not apply to art, however. You cannot learn how to draw overnight, it's not an exact science and you have to pump out thousands of pages of studies until you're good. My advice is find an artist or make a game that does not need good art, aka pixelshit or something like that.

>could I do it in half a year?

No. It's a long journey but after about a year you're gonna have some stuff you're gonna be proud of, if you work hard.

>>14292372

>combat like dead cells

Dead cells has pretty elaborate combat relatively speaking, you need to build a system that is able to handle all kinds of movement/animation events and hitboxes and timings and combo sequences. It takes a fair amount of programming expertise to be able to pull off something like that, and there's no engine that'll do it for you.

>half a year

Multiply that by 10 and we can start talking.

Can anyone explain me what's wrong with my code ? Whatever I do I keep getting this shitty error :

m_rays.push_back(std::make_pair(sf::Vector2f, sf::Vector2f));

g++ main.cpp Camera.hpp Camera.cpp -lsfml-graphics -lsfml-system -lsfml-window -o o
Camera.cpp: In member function ‘void Camera::raycast()’:
Camera.cpp:18:53: error: expected primary-expression before ‘,’ token
         m_rays.push_back(std::make_pair(sf::Vector2f, sf::Vector2f));
                                                     ^
Camera.cpp:18:67: error: expected primary-expression before ‘)’ token
         m_rays.push_back(std::make_pair(sf::Vector2f, sf::Vector2f));
                                                                   ^
Makefile:2 : la recette pour la cible « all » a échouée
make: *** [all] Erreur 1

>>14292489

I'm going to guess that sf::Vector2f is a type. std::make_pair needs two objects to construct a pair, but you've given it two types. Fix it by adding the function call at the end of sf::Vector2f ie sf::Vector2f(). This will default construct a sf::Vector2f and that object will be used in std::make_pair.

>>14292497

It works, ty m8.

>>14292489

Code is not really debuggable if you don't post it, but why are you passing a type to make_pair?

>>14292512

Raycast. I need an x and a y coordinate to where my ray starts and ends.

>>14292562

>move everything

Don't

Use some kind of camera object with x/y coordinates, and then add it to everything when drawing or calculating matrices.

>>14292581

Give the camera the same coordinates as the character it is supposed to film and make it move so it follows the character.

>>14292581

I don't remember how SFML works so it's hard to describe more specifically, but basically when you draw a sprite, you use camera's position + sprite position instead of just sprite position. If you're using GPU rendering with matrices, you need to add the camera into a matrix somewhere.

Then you match the camera position with whatever object you want it to follow.

>>14292345

>Yeah mind flayers are pretty cool but have you tried spooky liches

How about illithiliches/alhoons?

>>14292746

but they don't have spooky skulls though

>>14292785

make em wear spooky skull hats and skull accessories. (alhoons probably have skulls but they have to keep their tentacles so you can tell they're illithids)

>>14292802

What about a human lich who obtains mind flayer traits through black magic and as a result has bone tentacles on his face?

someone make a video game about potion making but nothing in a simplistic manner, only highly in-depth gameplay pls

>>14292929

>Cutesy comfy anime grill potion making simulator that's secretly just a disguised edutainment game that requires you to solve chemistry problems.

Sure, why not.

>>14292929

The closest thing to this that I've ever seen was Thaumcraft mod for Minecraft, where you use magical "aspects" for alchemy. You literally run around the world inspecting various objects to extract their aspects for magical recipes. They're pretty intuitive, too, which is pretty cool.

For example I think cobblestone has earth aspect and entropy aspect, because it consists of broken up stone. The more complex objects you use, the more complicated, compound aspects that can be broken down or used as-is start appearing.

>>14292966

>chemistry problems

Damn it anon, the one fucking thing I'm incapable of doing. Better not make those girls too cute.

>>14292966

>animu

if I wanted atelier I'd have said

>>14292986

Thaumcraft suffers from "lets shove alot of cool ideas into one huge thing, oh wait we gotta balance this shit and redesign all the old stuff to work for the new stuff"

>>14292929

Could you people stop shitposting ideaguy ideas especially when your idea is one of the things I have semi-worked out in my ideas folder.

>>14292999

I would love to see you're work tbh

>>14292996

I wish it was more lengthy, too. A lot of research is useless and can't really be played around with too much because they're so damn specialized. I also wish there was more lore. The last Thaumcraft mod I played had it's progression cut off with Far Lands' bosses, which is honestly wasted potential in my eyes.

>>14293070

yeah the high end stuff is either shit from other mods or just alot of grinding

>>14293010

*your

>>14293136

you's*

>>14293170

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>14293180

Hello this is Nintendo, you have just infringed on our "Toad" and "1-Up Mushroom" copyrights so we are suing you for a million dollars.

>>14293187

Now that I think about it, I'm surprised that Vinesauce hasn't been sued for using the 1-Up as their logo.

>>14293206

Well certainly, but those are the same issues other let's players and streamers have had. I'm curious about the logo specifically, as that one would make a bit of sense.

How come so much of /agdg/ likes Vinny?

>>14293214

he gotten alot more enjoyable to watch because he came out of his depression and being a memelord teen. he's still a massive casual though

>>14293242

WEWlad

>>14293256

>respond to someone

>LMAO YOU GOT BAITED LOSER

>>14293245

When was he depressed?

>plays random trash from the dark web

>casual

you're so wrong it's not even funny

>>14293271

back when he had that job at that studio in like 2016, even some of the best streams from then he was still not having fun and down right irritable at some hardship

>vinny

>I like walking simulators and need the chat to hand hold him at every moment

>not a casual

>>14293290

Surreal walking sims are great though

>>14293339

joel is just a meme loving fuck tbh

>>14293339

>watches moe anime

>thinks his opinion is worth shit

BRUH

>>14293333

>that gif

you delete this right now.

>>14293397

bool requirementsMet=true;

for()

{

if()

{

requirementsMet=false;

break;

}

}

if(requirementsMet)

{

…

}

>>14293413

>that syntax

Also, don't forget that the [code] tag exists.

>>14293518

why would i bother using [code] for pseudocode?

>>14293518

>>14293519

no need for [code] unless you're writing out proper code

>>14293519

I mean, why wouldn't you? :^)

Also it's kinda lame pseudocode to be honest; you could store quest requirements using bitflags (1 bit for each met requirement) and then just check if those requirements are met using a bitmask.

>>14293519

>>14293530

Don't be gay, if you have multiple indents in you code then that's exactly what code tags exist for. It takes you 1 second to type the tags.

for (quests){
	bool requirementsMet = true;

	for (quests[i].list_of_requirements){
		if (!quests[i].list_of_requirements[ii].accomplished){
			requirementsMet = false;
			break;
		}
	}

	if (requirementsMet){
		//requirements met, print this quest as a choice
	}
}

>>14293534

>you could store quest requirements using bitflags (1 bit for each met requirement) and then just check if those requirements are met using a bitmask.

Way too early to talk about pointless optimizations.

>>14293569

>pointless optimizations

Uh, it'd be a much more scalable and direct solution than having multiple for loops and conditionals on top of a bigass multi-array of bools. There's a huge difference between choosing to do things efficiently and optimizing before it's necessary. IMO the whole "pointless optimization" meme has gone too far to the point where I feel like people here are just going to code their games poorly without understanding the problems they're having or the solutions they're being given. Which, I guess is fine, but like you've probably seen before people eventually will need to rewrite 90% of their code once they realize that those "pointless optimizations" are actually a big fucking deal. I'm willing to bet anons here have abandoned projects more than once when they've had to work a prototype into a polished game that requires performance. I understand where the pointless optimization meme comes from, and I get that it can be helpful, but I feel like it will do more harm than good for the anons here.

>>14293705

Go for the red one. Green will be a pain in the ass to do and nobody would even appreciate it.

>>14293703

>people eventually will need to rewrite 90% of their code once they realize that those "pointless optimizations" are actually a big fucking deal

Turning that shit into a bitfield is not a "big fucking deal". That check is probably executed once in a blue moon so the question of speed doesn't even enter the equation. But more importantly, since you're checking for quest requirements you may want to be able to do something more complicated to check for conditions than checking for a single boolean bit. Of course that depends on how the whole system is structured, but that's the thing; we don't know, so we shouldn't try to optimize it yet.

>>14293757

yeah, that is what i was thinking

>>14293776

>we don't know, so we shouldn't try to optimize it yet.

Fair enough. I guess I've just been getting the impression that people have just been throwing around "premature optimization" as a buzzword. And besides, if you know how to decouple your code into neat modular parts, you can always swap out different implementations easily (e.g. changing how quests are handled, through bitfields or some nodes in linked-list poset, or whatever else). Maybe it bothers me as much as it does because I can see it being an abused design philosophy where people skip the planning stage entirely and just code until it just werks.

>>14293949

no quest of defending a bridge against a series of opponents for renown/honor Or a toll at the cost of renown/honor

Is there anything really wrong with using glbegin() and glend() to get started?

>>14292392

>>14292430

What about monogame or gamemaker are they any good? or is unity the recommended for beginners in 2d?

>>14294223

I personally use Love2D, but it's less an engine and more a framework, where you have to build most everything on your own, and it only handles the very basics for you.

I used to use GM:S, but 1.4 has borked controller support and trying to use GM:S 2's workspace nearly gave me a fucking stroke. Don't get me wrong, nu-Game Maker is way more useable than old Game Maker, to the point where you can get a functional game in it, and if you're not sure about whether you truly want to make a game, you could throw something together in six months to a year, as an experiment. And if that works out, try porting it to a different engine, then, as by then you'll have ideas on how to handle everything, and it will be a matter of Googling how to execute it in the engine you choose.

You can also look into Godot, a lot of anons here like it, even if most people like it solely because it's FOSS.

Can't really comment on the others, as I haven't used them, though I do know that Unity's 2D is pretty bloated for what it is.

>>14294223

Monogame is so freeing after using Unity. Never used Gamemaker.

I recommend Monogame or some other framework, because it actually teaches you to program. Using Unity is like cheating except you never win.

>>14294223

Gamemaker is certainly usable nowadays, but it still tends to teach you a lot of bad habits and make you "lazy" so to say. It's what I started with 15-17 years ago, and if I could go back and stop myself from using it and learn C++ or something instead I'd do it in a heartbeat.

That said, I still occasionally use it for extremely rapid prototyping. I used to have a buddy who wrote wacky shitty stories and I'd turn them into games in like one or two hours, like a simple MS paint tier room escape or an endless runner chasing after a secret agent.

>>14293949

The graphics make me think of the OG mount and blade.

>>14294357

>>14293949

is this the new banterlord?

>>14294223

Let me say this: if you want to use Unity for 2D, it depends STRONGLY on your goals. If you want to make something low res and "classic" style, I would actually recommend avoiding Unity, as someone who is using it for my project. The reason is because you really need to do some pretty "hacky" things to get pixel perfection and even then things have issues.

I started working with Unity several years ago, and while I'm happy with what I have right now, if I could go back in time and choose something else like Godot I probably would.

If by 2D though, you refer to gameplay style and not necessarily low res visuals, then Unity is fine.

>>14292196

Teeeeechnically there already is!

GZDoombuilder is a very powerful map editor, but making puzzles with it requires a bit of scripting which I think would be beyond most people.

>>14294303

>Explicit scenes of sex, extreme violence and other shocking content

Please do go on

>>14294509

Also if you're into making puzzle maps you could consider making some in Quake. You can make prettier level geometry and I'm pretty sure there's more freedom with scripting stuff, though it is done via flagging brushes and placing logic entities. You can also implement some stuff like trick jumps or other mobility challenges into puzzle maps for some variety.

>>14294549

I thought his game was supposed to be a horror type game. Trick jumps dont seem like they fit there, but maybe you're actually on to something.

Is it too crazy to try learning pixel art without knowing how to properly draw normally?

>>14294901

Well, certain principles are universal. Things like animating clothing, proportions, and that kind of stuff. But you can learn with pixel art just like you can learn with normal art, and there are some exclusive skills that apply to low res art vs high res etc. I think its fine to learn with pixel art but just make sure you're actually learning. Practicing regular drawing will help you in both areas, so imo you really should just practice both anyways.

>>14294901

A positive of pixel art is that there is only a certain number of spots that any given pixel shall be, so if something doesn't look quite right, it's often a fairly simple act of what I call pixel-shifting - just shifting it around by a pixel or two, and often times (though certainly not always) it works out.

On the other hand, you must realize that this means that detail is hard. If you want to have, let's say, a loli that has a plush bear or something, it's unlikely that you can put too much detail into the plush, like eyes, depending on how big or small you want it to be. It's important, then, to realize this and make any details as big as possible, or at least to accent them with the right colors. It's all about making the best of your (presumably limited) palette as well as the space you allow yourself to use.

>>14294960

I used to do Minecraft texture packs back when it first came out. It taught me a lot about color. I'd say that's the one thing you can really benefit from if you do pixelart - you can focus on color nearly exclusively.