/v/ - Video Games

>>14177334

let it die, also check 'em

Skoot server, or whatever it was called, was pretty comfy. I run my own sever for 3-4 friends to work together when we feel like it. Depreciation of a village after a 6 month hiatus kinda sucks.

skill curve and being too easy killed the last server.

1x/1x is the only way.

>>14179727

People got bored and quit. The game never hit the peak it had when we were on the Russian's cracked server.

>>14179727

8ch got bored of epic, started leaving out of boredom, 4ch got a bunch of real world problems to deal with all of a sudden as well as cant recruit as well as 8ch so their pop died as well. lots of no fighting made for a peacful world but uninteresting. 4ch left their gates unlocked which meant 8ch could just stroll in and kill them uninhibited.

also no one with any experience from 4ch meant they were stumbling around playing catch up the whole time

>>14179763

Why 1x if you don't mind me asking. Don't serbs usually do about 4x?

>>14179791

A lot of the people who'd be interested in playing again enjoy playing and living in a persistent world 1x encourages that.

The other side of the coin is there are a lot of autistic veterans when it comes to wurm pvp and fast rates leads to high speed gearing up and skirmishes. So slower rates balances the knowledge gap in a lot of ways. I.E it may take a new player 10 days to find out he should be training archery and by then everyone who knew it mattered is shooting 70ql bows.

>>14179791

>4x experience and 4x action speed

>get level 90 in a skill with 16 hours of botting

But then again, even 1x experience wont solve WU's problem of having a 100% chance of gaining experience for every action. That alone gives WU skill gain an exponential increase over WO

>>14179836

archery truely is bad for the game. promotes passive play which is uninteresting to fight both as and against

>>14179844

Its pretty much a given that you'll have to be editing data in java to run a wurm server. Because its a piece of hot garbage to get rolling, if you can find a competent java coder things such as altering skill chance can happen.

>>14179850

Chivalry is what we need between factions, not just blind hate and murder lust.

>>14179676

Thing is, there's literally no server that isn't G-rated. Most of them are German or Scandi. No amount of bully, often even no foul language is permitted. Any banter would get you banned.

The only way to play vs normalfags would be to cultivate your own server full of them with uncucked rules before opening the floodgates for anons, and it seems not even /v/urm has that level of autism.

>>14180019

The only option is 8ch's own server 1x rates no epic curve pvp on and chivalrous squabbles over resources or champion duels between kingdoms in exchange for gold. Bounty mod would need to be running along with upkeep for towns.

>>14180043

Have you ever actually played at 1x rates? Servers /v/'s played on have been 16x or faster.

My friend who used to play WO described it as a digital retirement home. It's so grindy and monotonous that old people would just sink the rest of their lives into it and it wasn't uncommon to hear a player had died IRL.

Is it time lads?

Is it time for the Brocelona to be reborn?

pls say yes I'm bored of my current games ;_;

someone get a server up. i can do java if necessary.

>>14182152

BIG

BEAUTIFUL

GOLDEN

WALL

Anyone got that webm of anons pushing the tri-god statue into the water and breaking the game?

>been playing warfarm and installing gentoo

Don't make me want to play this now too

how many threads do you think it will take until a serverfag arises

>>14182270

>Don't make me want to play this now too

"Wurm Unlimited /comfy/"

>spoiler

Hopefully soon.

>tfw old fag, part of the first every settlement

Where did you go lads?

I miss you ;_;7

>>14182270

does anyone have the server program/files?

>>14182563

This. As fun as Wurm is, people get burned out. Give them time to get back some strength, and they'll be back when summer rolls around. Right now ain't the time to try again.

>>14182650

people say this everytime the time comes around again.

>>14182650

I don't know about you, but I never get burned out. The only reason why I leave is because there's a lot of drama and people start dropping from the server like flies so there's no one to play with.

TOO. FUCKING. SOON.

Don't fucking repeat the same mistake as last time where the community was split in two because half of us were still suffering from wurmout and didn't play. If we were to host now, that half would play and most of the others would not. Don't fucking do it. Wait for summer.

NEW SERVER NOW

someone post server files

how beastly of a vps does this require.

>>14182837

they can join later, surely this server will be up for years this time.

IF you host a new server for the love of all that is holy BUILD A PROPER FUCKING MAP FIRST. Don't even attempt to be the host if you're not experienced, remember what happened with Bowman. Also: PROPER FUCKING SETTINGS. Ebin curve either on or off AND IT STAYS THAT WAY. Most people would prefer off. Also: Get the goddamn dirt layer right. Since we need to fill the server somehow we should repeat what we did last time and do 8ch VS 4ch again and NAME THE FACTIONS ACCORDINGLY. Also also: Ingame economy. Get it right. Build a proper trader. Make sure there isn't a loophole in the prices.

Plan this properly and take your time getting the server right. Every goddamn time we have to deal with some other bullshit problem which could easily be prevented. There are lots of things that can be fucked up here and I don't even know them all.

>>14182871

Most of this, honestly. Also, no dirtwalling/ESP shit. We need a good, honest Wurm serb with a host who isn't shite.

Oh, and the biggest mistake that must be avoided AT ALL COSTS is joining a serb with an admin that isn't one of us. I'm not going through all this drama with normie-admins again.

apparantly IGG version comes with the server

http://igg-games.com/wurm-unlimited-free-download.html

  2.  Extract.
     3.  Start with file “IGG-Wurm.Unlimited\WurmLauncher\LAUNCHER.exe”
     4.  Untick “Use dedicated server”, then click “Manager server” button.
     5.  In “Wurm Unlimited Server”, select “Local Server” tab.
     6.  Set “Server External IP Address” to 0.0.0.0
     7.  Set “Server Internal IP Address” to 127.0.0.1
     8.  Select “Select Game Database” tab (First Tab again), click “Start server” button.
     9.  In Launcher game, click “LAN” tab, check your server and connect it.
   10.  Have fun ^^.

>>14182871

>>14182897

>>14182888

All of this please.

>>14182946

>IGG

People in the share thread have been saying they added coin miners and ads to their games.

Not sure if it's just newer games they add or if it's retroactive with previously uploaded games.

>>14183022

that's going to destroy igg.

>>14183036

i'd run the server if i had the server and the files rofl. i have the knowledge but not the money or the server files for that matter. i imagine that's the case with 90% of people though.

>>14183062

it takes a team of 3 or 4 really.

remove easy mode archer shittery

>>14183036

>4ch kept bitching at them that we were big meanies

But we didn't, HotS bitched in-game and in the thread like babies but the only contact we had with the admins was the skill transfer at start, them warning us after a JK got a bannu, and then trying to get vanilla king transfer systems implemented after a fucking leaf with down syndrome won the Emperor lottery. Hostfag even came by the HotS disagreement once everything was over because someone wanted to ask questions and he told us about about how their admins wanted to chimp out on bans constantly then disappear and having to take admining up himself.

Also if anyone does want to host I would recommend talking to the Brohan host, while the dev for the server never made anti-esp like they said they would, they implemented PM/Village chat logging so you can go full glow in the dark CIA nigger.

>>14182897

The admin on the last server we had had accidentally forgot to add clay when he started it up, but had the decency to at least come to each settlement and set it up manually. If I remember right however he had done some stuff that was less than decent later but I stopped playing around that time.

The only good thing the admin on the Broschwitz serb did for us was let us play scavenger hunt with that one fags items because he was sick and tired of him crying about losing items in a tournament that was completely voluntary seriously, who the hell takes their best gear into a match without replacements or at the very least some method to not get completely memed on?

Either way, admin/admits should definitely be one of us, and sure as shit as neutral as possible between players and factions.

>>14182871

Hostfag if your out there masturbating to anime girls take a note here. We know what went wrong with the last villages, so why not learn from past mistakes and do it right this time?

Also, there is also a number of Anons that want to wait until Summer. I say let the idea roll around for a little longer and then do it.

>knew that the wurm experience (tm) wouldnt last

>merely build a boat and store everything in it

devilish

let it die

>>14179656

I think it should be the opposite. 10x/10x with ebin plus high starting stats and gear and no priest or meditation limits. Small map so we don't have to wait hours in a boat to do pvp. I just want to fight over artifacts and build huge buildings without having to macro all day for a month beforehand.

>>14183297

>But we didn't

Well then i was lied to by one of them.My bad for taking him/her at face value.

>>14183036

>they just bullied our mayor whenever he needed assistance

They didn't exactly bully me, but they had terrible transparency and if I needed some info from them I had to chase them to steam and ask several times. And then there was the whole fuckup on steams side where it PRETENDS that you can PM people you have not added if you encounter them in a steam group, but they never recieve those goddamn messages. So obviously I thought they were ignoring me.

Also it's totally fine to start preparing everything, getting the settings right for the serb, maybe talk to some experienced oldfags on (((disagreement))), hand craft a proper map, think through stuff like action timers and skill gain for each job (there are some brutal inbalances there, unless shit got patched by now), maybe even prepare some extra event (HOTA was fun back in Broschwitz) and so on. There is lots of stuff to do, so just because we gotta wait til summer doesn't mean you shouldn't already look into all this stuff - if one of you actually wants to be the admin and feels confident enough to carry that burden.

As for the skillgain speed, the rate we had on the last serb was totally fine until ebin happened. Don't know what that was though. Except of course for HFC and its brothers since cooking became much, much slower due to how the server handles it now and it can't even be macro'd properly. Mining could also use a boost. Meditation also shouldn't take as long as it did on the last serb and there shouldn't be stupid skillgain limitations for it, the waiting game between the meditation-questions is bad enough.

As for faith: Priest limitations were already reworked on the last serb so that they don't suck quite as hard and I think that was fine. But I could live with there being no limitations, too. Praying should stay the way it is.

I suggest some sort of compromise between the autist grinderfags and autist pvpfags and have skill/action gains 2-3x or some sort of low but not 1x amount.

We need some sort of voting system thats not easily tampered probably impossible.

Otherwise I think if the host is competent and willing, should just make the decision and the rest just go with it.

You can't make the perfect server with the perfect settings that everyone will agree 100% on, there's always going to be someone who complains about something and makes a mountain out of a molehill so to speak.

>>14183680

we compromised like that last time and it was 2 quick. 1x rates 2x timers needs to be non negotiable.

>>14183466

>i just want to fight over artifacts

This is endgame shit.

>10x/10x with ebin is a good thing

might aswell just have everyone start with max stats,have fun for a couple of days,then watch everyone leave on the 3rd.

>build huge buildings without having to work for it

Taffer you nigger i see you within 50 tiles of a saddled and shoed horse and i'll drive an axe through your collarbone.

>>14182720

Because people don't even wait a month before trying to revive it again. Every time anons tell you fucks to give it a rest, and people burn out more rapidly with each new one. The one anon I'm friends with elsewhere decided he was done with Wurm for good after one too many premature servers.

>>14183748

Mining might need a timer change then, at the very least. Looking for minerals when you're doing shit without macros ss long as the action takes on a 1x would be physically painful. I'd like to find iron before the sun grows large enough to swallow Mars, personally

Can we agree the Dig_Dirt_to_Pile mod (think rocks from mining) is amazing? Can we at least agree to that?

>>14183769

We are trying to sort out what should be added/changed now so that later in the future we can set up a nice server rather than just making one out of the blue that hardly works(no clay, etc.)

>>14183781

Not sure about other anons but I'd be fine with it. You're just going to pile the dirt anyway, at least thatll save some trouble for the road makers/diggers

>>14183775

I don't disagree. Skills like mining, meditation, etc. does need some reworking. But as far as skill gains it should remain x1. see >>14183614

>>14183785

>>14183781

Just give me ground mining actions that aren't RNG shit and works like digging and concrete that doesn't require lye and you can throw whatever other mods on there and I will play. Priests will be a hot topic though as no limits means everyone will be a priest, but limits means autists who have enough time will just make a priest alt and only will be only a slight inconvenience.

>>14183748

>>14183738

Better to actually have fun for a few weeks than grind for a month before a single person attempts pvp.

>>14183925

In the "I forgot clay guys" serb we had pvp in the first hour. It was quick, we taunted them a bit, then 20 minutes later they were back, with horses, and memed on us.

Thankfully they were bros and gave us our compasses back, so that was nice.

>>14177334

>tons of rich mechanics and massive player freedom in terms of what to do and how to do it

Pretty fucking awesome.

>graphics from 1998

Not ideal, but not a deal-breaker.

>execution of gameplay feels like a cheap first-run N64 game; generally floaty, janky and glitchy as fuck at all times

>combat in particular feels so bad it breaks the shit-o-meter

>feels like the game was rushed out in pre-alpha and immediately abandoned

Nope.

Will there ever be a game like Wurm that's polished as fuck without sacrificing the underlying gameplay complexity?

>>14183925

>Lets take away the most appealing thing about wurm,the feeling of progression.

Yeah,i can't see how this would go badly at all tbh.

>>14183861

No limits > limits. Alts let you have a priest anyway, removing limits just reduces the needless autism micro of managing multiple characters.

>>14183816

x1 rates will kill the server and make botting mandatory. If you were suggesting x1 rates when everyone was actually playing the game, you'd be raked over the coals.

>>14184149

>x1 rates will kill the server and make botting mandatory.

Not sure where your getting that from. If you played with us on Brohan you'd know that isn't true at all. In fact that's what kept many people playing. Maybe macros, but not to the extent your referring to. People got good gains if they specialized a skill, going from 0 to 50 in an afternoon. Again, it keeps people from training every skill to 100 in less than a few days.

>>14184182

>0-50 in a skill with vanilla rates and normal server

lad, you are confused

Can I play this shit for free

>>14184638

Usually when a serb is up people will have file downloads in the chat itself, the only issue is getting a serb set up, the ratios right, the admins not to biased (when there's multiple groups involved) /retarded and to ensure the map is full of nice little places to settle down.

That being said, you'll probably start seeing one in the summer

>>14184668

What is a serb? Sounds like some good tism though.

>>14184733

based gen Z.

Oh no, not again. But, maybe.I do, though, start to wonder, if this is a way of trying to pinpoint anons, for the jobs I usually do. I don't care about being fingered, some well may.

I'm a little confused about the rates because I don't know which server I played on had which rates, I can only use the servers themself as points of referance. The rates of WRC and Brohan (pre-ebin) felt just right. I wouldn't make em slower or faster.

Yep, I knew it. Wanton profiling. Can not have anything nice.

I JUST WANNA BE A FISHERMAN FOR BROCELONA LIVING IN MY SMALL /comfy/ LAKESIDE CABIN

>>14184786

spooked ya

>>14184797

Exactly, and you can do that on non-imageboard suggest servers. I'm likely around, you'd catch the wind of me, and the others.

>>14184817

Nah, it's my business. Nobody lives in my head, I live at their doorsteps.

>>14184821

>Exactly, and you can do that on non-imageboard suggest servers

No fun unless it's with the lads.

>>14184821

come on buddy just connect to our server I won't record you IP or anything.

>>14184833

>>14184841

It's always best when it is not board-specific. Formless, somewhere out there in space. Again. You have no idea how much information I tossed in the trash, that I should have been collecting. I am my job.

>>14184825

OH that's exactly what I was talking about My brother and me were actually helping Void get the stone for the coffin's.

Oh God, that fucking admin, "hey guys, haha, just give it back, bro code, right haha" meanwhile the fag who got his body stolen was probably flooding a personal chat to the admin with begging and crying to just ban them.

Sitting around with you guys during the election run was the fucking best, just drama everyday.

>>14184833

Hanging with the gents on here is the best.

>>14184868

Remember the passive aggressive notes he left on the road into town.

Oh man, I wish there was another game where we can mess with people that badly

>>14184825

>>14184868

You lot there when we pushed the God statue into the ocean and broke the server?

Funny as fuck.

>>14184882

I do, we're freaking out that the server crashed then when we found out why we all had a good laugh. Wish I had the webm of the serb ded. We got this video with screen caps of the thread at the end.

Admin ended up locking the statue of gods into place to keep it from moving after.

>>14184935

Best timeline.

I wonder if Nkdragunov ever stopped being a faggot…

Probably not.

>>14184987

Nope he hasn't. Last I saw he was playing planetside 2.

my perfect game would literally be a wurm unlimited done for singleplayer with mm6-8 styled combat and magic system.

>>14185048

k

>>14184726

>What is a serb?

FUCKING NORMANS GET OUT

>>14185404

Last one from here died because an item decided it was enchanted with an enchantment that doesn't exist and while any other game would be able to deal with this problem without any notice, Rolfcode™ ensured that numerous unrelated players were corrupted in the database and the server shitcanned. No way to get official support either because of the forums banning any sort of reference to pirate enabled servers, and it was a good run outside of some populations dropping with MR and some solo JK players disappearing and a shame that very few of the dungeons and other unique content that were made were never found in the end.

Only way i can see this working out is on a Norman serb - purpose, unity and no inside drama to worry about that would destroy us and the serb unless someone shitter-shatters, like an admin

But to find a pirate friendly serb is nearly impossible.

Seems that DRC aka WRC is gone or they changed their name again.

So long as the gains remain the same as it was on Brohan, a few skills get reworked, more planning for the village in terms of direction and a decently put together map, I'd say the quota is pretty much filled. That and a representative-like admin on whatever server for 8 with the piratefags' return to the table. None of that exclusive (((steam))) discount nonsense I missed by three minutes.

Stone walls and magic not dirt walls and ESP.

>When people refer to older Serbs they use the name of our town, like Brosmouth and Broschwitz

>But for the last one it's always Brohan, the name of the server

>Not Hohenbrohausen, the name of our village

>Noone liked the name I gave it after all

>It's just that noone wanted to admit it

;_;

>>14186582

five-syllable foreign words aren't the most attractive candidates for casual speech, anon

>>14186582

>he thinks he wouldn't have been dumped in HotS island butt naked if anon's didn't aprove of the town's name

the serbs name is a third shorter then brohausen which would most likely be how we'd refer to it given past settlements,it's just that not every anon shares a mother tongue that needs at minimum 14 letters stuck together for it to be considered a "word" therefore shortest name gets used.

You're still a shit cook though.

>>14186891

I know you put nails in those fucking meals but God Damn they sure are tasty

bump

Anyone got a link?

Possibly with the server files

>>14187715

Probably not since I have no moneys and I'm not very competent at managing things.

But I would like to look into all the different things that can be changed and added to a server in hopes that I could help the next serverfag.

Also if memory serves me right, I could host my own localhost server that is persistant so I could autism in the mean time.

>>14185713

>pirate friendly

dude just fucking buy Wurm Unlimited

it's less than a dollar on G2A ffs.

>>14188040

Less than a dollarydoo?

I would honestly be willing to buy it for some folk if it meant a new settlement tbh

>>14188068

As long as we work out sever settings and all the little things probably have to wait until summer for everyone to be good to go for it unless you're doing it for a couple of your friends and yourself, in which case do what you want

>>14188068

You don't have to buy it, cracking the client is something we've done every time and still know how to do.

>>14188157

Yeah I know, but if iirc some servers aren't available to pirates.

I could be miss remembering however.

>>14188181

8chan is going to host this time, 4chan tried to host last time but it was bad and got passed off to a third group of handlers which had their own steam group they launched Brohan.

That's the most recent history going back further in time 8chan's played on pirated ruskie servers and regular wurm unlimited servers. However the technology to crack our own clients and servers developed in the most recent rounds of servers.

>>14188040

>G2A

i didn't even know that existed

https://www.g2a.com/wurm-unlimited-steam-key-global-i10000006651002

how does steam allow this? they must burn accounts that use this. there's no way they allow 3rd parties to sell keys.

>>14188254

apparently these are $0.75 because they keys were bought with stolen credit cards. at a minimum when the charges get reversed from the credit cards steam will yank the game from your account.

>>14188254

How would steam stop it? They can't tell the difference between keys that have been sold to g2a and keys that people are just holding onto.

>>14188261

humble actually sold them in their 1$ bundle tier some months back so i imagine thats how they scooped a bunch of keys up

>>14188254

>$.78

But is it still worth that much? And are there people already playing together on a server?

>>14188254

Wurm Unlimited was in a humble bundle recently in the pay what you want tier

>>14188683

the most popular servers are PvE servers. PvP servers are russian and dead at the very bottom so its either join normalfag server and get banned for calling others faggots or wait for a server you know you can "trust"

>>14188772

But why would a knight carry a big fucking executioner tier axe?

>>14188777

because it's cool and on unmodded servers is the best aggressive attack weapon, also checked

>>14188808

A couple of the HotS guys when pvp server jumping after Brohan died. Needless to say all them were terrible, either designated pvp areas that no one used or islands for pvp towns that no one actually fought at. The best you can do really is go on PvE servers and fuck with people with shit that doesn't get logged like tunneling into off deed tree farms and chopping everything down.

>tfw wurm is too dead for your dream of creating a large kingdom of bros and building a fuck huge building wall to claim a chunk of the map away and keep all the normalfags out

>>14188808

>ywn fart near artorias house again

>>14188889

life is so hard.

>>14188897

>>14188889

>server admin comes over to fix something

>"alright lads this is gonna take a few minutes just need to concentrate a little"

>…

>1 anon farts

>…

>entire population of Brosmouth begins farting on admin

>"ffs"

>>14188993

>someone RPing as a girl during the seaport days before we sailed to the new server

>Hanging out with Artorias

>says "Oh ser artorias, I think I may be falling in love!"

>cue at least ten minutes of people giving them shit, mocking them and assuring artorias it's probably a dude golddigging

>he tries to "defend her honour"

>backfires so horribly he builds as far away as possible on the new server

That was a good day

>>14189098

There's a 1x rates PvE RP wurm unlimited server if that's what you want.

>>14189098

>not shitting on artorias

>not cutting down his cedar trees

>not leading trolls near his tamed animals

it's like you hate fun

>When the Wurm summer serb comes around

You lads ready to get your hands dirty?

>>14190164

that last pic /comfy/

>>14190183

everything literally has to be perfect.

>>14190183

Building up 6 months of anticipation is the only way to get people to want to play. If a server was put up right now people would only play in order to not miss out. We'd get fewer players and people would drop out more quickly while what we really need is a critical mass like in Brosmouth. Fewer players also promotes planfagging. We need to have the city littered with 2 tile cucksheds before planfags can even attempt to build their straight roads or it will just end up looking like Broschwitz.

Plus there might be some new features in 6 months like archaeology or saddlebags.

So how about them server file links?

>>14190132

Would it make sense for those actually intending to play to lay down their intended jobs? I've got the interest to farm/sew/terraform, would be nice to have other farmers to depend on to help on crops.

>>14190302

>first pic

Also hoping for sensible wall and road autism. A mix of actual city planning and something organic than one huge cube that will never get filled.

>>14190307

Are you talking shit about Broschwitz's roads?

>>14191297

>The Baited Hooks Mine

>All we're missing is (you)!

Oh God I'm about to start tearing up here, you fuckers actually remembered that. My bro and me left there shortly after we managed to build a tower The fact we got memed on helped. Hope people managed to make some use of it.

>>14191207

>Would it make sense for those actually intending to play to lay down their intended jobs? I've got the interest to farm/sew/terraform, would be nice to have other farmers to depend on to help on crops.

I mean I honestly just suggested it so we could get people in and see where people sit. Figured it would be a good way to gauge player interest although people would probably be pretty excited for a summer serb

Personally I wouldn't mind taking up tailoring again, and probably farming cotton to help get a decent supply going maybe help around with some other things

>>14191496

>people won't pay a dollar for the game

Two parts meme, one part insufficient interest at this time.

>>14191496

>>14191563

are you talking about that sale from months ago or is it on again?

I figured I probably wouldn't play again but now I wish I had the option

>>14188254

>>14191698

I will play around summertime, gives plenty time to prepare everything. I am for much slower rates, a well designed map, pvp (but this requires outsiders, or a huge 8ch population that will be 30+ actives for each 2-3 kingdoms).

Map suggestion - make the world have specific regions, northern side always snowy, unique resource advantages for each region, have a mountainous valley chokepoint to trek across the world or to get to the other Kingdoms, this encourages pvp/zone control.

Slow skillgain so we stay. I'm a Broschwitz vet who smithed near the last half, and played plate smith last big pvp server, hohenbrau or whatever, you know me.

Make weekly world events (similar to the dungeons but not limited to) which reward all kingdom players with a weekly advantage/ access to an exclusive resource-rich region.

>>14191846

I have some experience making this maps, I've toyed around with having tar only spawn in deserts. That would encourage groups to make desert kingdoms to control the precious tar trade or suffer through 1000x coal pits.

>>14192316

It's ideas like this that need to be thrown around and discussed more often.

Seriously were's those server files so we can all look into shit like this.

>>14192316

That would be fine for tar but clay is necessary for so much that it would need to be spread out everywhere. The other tile types don't really matter at all. Peat and moss are useless and sand tiles can be created anywhere once you get a pile of it from somewhere.

>>14192837

ya I know no clay means no furnace at all. no tar just means no big boats.

>>14191563

>insufficient interest

based on the size of this thread i think there's sufficient interests.

if there was a server up right now people would be on it.

How do you guys feel about moonmetal ore dropping like gems? It's not like we'd have a ton of high ql moonmetal laying around as the ql would be limited by mining skill and ql of wall mined.

>>14192946

bretty gud

>>14192923

I'd wait a week or two, to be perfectly honest. For all the collegefags, the semester is just now beginning- beyond that, it'd give time for someone capable time to set shit up.

>>14192923

the issue is that there's nothing to really retain people though like there's interesting to start but none to keep going

>>14192923

I keep seeing "wait until summer", but sure. I'd hope on if there was a server now.

>>14192946

>>14192856

All resources in fair moderation, ya? Don't need to hand ourselves the whole game. As long as resources make sense where they are, or, as suggested, give players something to travel around towards.

>>14192995

The only regret was that the memorial towers were never finished. At least the wall got done.

>>14193037

tbh both of those fuckers just switch to a alt and went to the other place which died well before us

>>14193024

>I'd wait a week or two it'd give time for someone capable time to set shit up

More like a month, but true enough if someone would post the server files

>>14193044

files from the WurmServerLauncher folder, I'm guessing? I'll make a MEGA if you folks need

>>14193081

Medieval townbuilding, Runescape fighting, grinding, and testing the wrath of gods. You can pick the game up for under $1 US or we can all do a cracked server again and hope nothing breaks this time.

>>14193067

I'm not sure exactly what it's called but we can take a look.

Thank you very much for uploading

>>14193115

>>14193119

it actually sounds cozy. I have never played terraria/minecraft/runescape but this appeals to me.

>>14193132

>>14193081

The autism part is a fact. Especially playing with this crew of kek. But it is super comfy to sit around bullshitting and crafting.

>>14193131

>I cant even remember which bro- is which anymore

Annoying, trying to organize all these memories in their proper folders. Five different towns up to this point and an endless supply of screencaps that could've been taken on any one of them.

>>14193132

So long as you go into it understanding that grinding is pretty much the central pillar of the game. Rolf wants his users to suffer on the path to comfy and glory.

before you idiots hype up new meat, let me just say that the game is very slow paced and the grinding in it would be some Korean mmos to shame, that being said the main issue is the fact that unless we get a shit ton load of people who we can go against, the game just doesn't have any kinda goal and the autistic crafting side of the game is actually pretty limited.

so while the comf is there, it also goes away pretty soon

>>14193174

Its lacking in any sort of endgame beyond comf unless we have a proper admin who can spawn in dragons and other fun things, like more skeleton crusades, its quite unfortunate.

I wonder if we could bang our heads together and figure out what exactly we can do to fill the void. I just wish that house decorating could get SWG tier and that you could make some nice custom chef recipes, that would be grand.

>>14193183

while there are alot of mods, all of them are to make the game less grindie trash. tbh how about getting someone to make our own mods?

>>14193183

>>14193174

I think the game is the most fun when you're first starting out. Especially with a new server. Building up everything from nothing is great. But it is less fun for players who are coming into an already well-developed town/economy. Unless admins are doing stuff to keep things challenging and interesting, like other anons mentioned.

>>14193177

I could just use the Steam version, right? It's very cheap, so I got it a while back.

Takes a hell of a long time to hit endgame when the monsters are set insanely high and super violent. That'd be a good time.

>>14193201

We need mods to make the game more grindy.

GIVE ME MORE SHIT TO CRAFT

>>14193210

Yeah the steam version has the server files included, you'll need a russian crack from one of their forums. I don't have any specifics right now but I know I might be able to find it in a bit.

>>14193228

>We need mods to make the game more grindy.

x5 rates x1 timers. Done.

>>14193228

well I know that we don't any one willing to put effort into something that's likely to die, so why don't we write up a list of things we'd like to see and keep track of it till we actually find someone interested in that

>>14193233

You misunderstand. I'm asking for more content.

>>14193247

Can we not implement a mod/feature/whatever it was that keeps crops from rotting? For some reason that was shoved onto the Broregon server near the very end. Killing a whole reason some people play for is a shitty thing to do.

>>14193247

1) Economy that rewards being a rich filthy goyim, like the admin having special traders sell good shit for high amounts of money.

2) an ongoing war with repercussions, i would approve of a system similar to a pen and paper RPG where everyone is playing in their own factions and the Admin/DM starts shitting on players with periodical invasions and general bullshitery that keeps the game interesting but balanced.

Thats the first two i can think off the top of my head

>>14193233

The rates that we have should reflect our town population. Assuming we have 20 townsmen, I think we should go with the WRC rates, which are x3 rates, x5 time, and whatever the sleep bonus was.

>>14193268

That's easily doable.

>>14193177

files link.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YOo4Dkr_ZMjVBaM932EymBUdLuCUjUxf/view?usp=sharing

>>14193233

>>14193313

Can the server set starting stats? I think it would be nice to start out with 10 or 20 extra mind logic. It's just annoying not being able to queue a reasonable number of actions. Also we should start with enough strength to load crates.

>>14193381

yes

>>14193381

Do we really need free gibs? That seems like the start of a slippery slope.

>>14193381

you will quickly burn through some of the beginning goals if you hand them out like that.

>>14193360

>dolphin porn

At least I hope not, but seriously thank you for uploading

Another thing that I forgot is how to run the economy.

Are we going to go full communism for the screeching leeches or is it possible to make a sort of capitalist system?

Personally I was going to have people give me raw materials to craft whatever they needed.

For instance a bunch of iron and some logs in exchange for weapons/armor/crates/wagons/etc.

>>14193398

It should be enough to just have the grinding slightly lessened.

>>14193408

but that's the point of the game

>>14193424

Pretty sure that's just bartering.

>>14193424

So anarchy?

>>14193427

Frankly its nice to lessen the grind a bit because lets be real this is already a slog. epic isint needed but a bit of an easing

>>14193434

>>14193436

Yes pretty much, but anarchy under a Gestapo aka the Mayor

>>14193398

>>14193394

You still have plenty of room to grind stats since stats grow pretty slowly. Even once you get 99 in a few skills your stats are still going to be maybe 50. Setting the starting point will get rid of some of the tedium associated with the 3 action queue and the tiny capacity of crateless carts.

>>14193424

How did that work especially when the town(s) got old?

I always went off and hermitfag'd.

I really don't understand how traders work but would it be possible to set a town center trader that bought goods at a set price and would diminish/rise x% when people sold/bought?

>>14193438

it encourages village working together. If you cannot lift crates, maybe a village member can for you. If everyone can lift crates and ride horses from the get go then people are more likely to hermit off away from the towns.

>>14193448

you formed a militia and become killing machines.

>>14193445

Who the fuck is that? I listen to no man, and I build the roads I want. I couldn't imagine taking orders from some keyboard warrior just because he has more e-shekels.

>>14193405

>>14193424

How is it suppose to work in the first place? So you need a certain amount just to properly found a town with guard, and then you need a monthly upkeep, right? Don't merchants fit into that somehow? All I remember is being told at one point that I had to get cash from killing monsters, even though killing anything was on the bottom of my to-do list. Seemed off to me at the time that I should go out of my way to do that when I'm already providing the town with free resources on a daily basis. Or if I could just as easily sell a part of crops to a merchant for money towards upkeep. I never bothered to look into it much myself so I don't know how things work in that regard.

>>14193427

I meant insofar as a little less grinding instead of automatically starting a server with free stats you didn't earn.

>>14193447

I know it might be a little too autistic to sperg out over it, but free stats that nobody worked towards having doesn't sit right.

>>14193445

>>14193456

Surely a town, at the very least, could use a council if not a mayor. We could have referendums if the direction of the town ever needed serious consideration. Either way, it always seemed like military forces were the ones that called the shots. Biggest sword rules all? Isn't that how kingdoms normally function?

>>14193448

The traders fucky, you'd need to make a mod if you want more complex trader than the ingame jews.

Though i have never bothered with them unless it was for Sleeping Powder.

>>14193457

To make a town from 0 is pretty easy if you have enough autists on it, a bit harder if we get no starter tools.

>>14193456

Are you Libertini ?

>>14193470

Well with Borschwitz and Hohenbrohausen we went with "elders" - those who have knowledge and experience in game and/or being a leader.

>>14193483

I'd fucking love an actual nomadic way of life if the game actually supported it

>>14193479

All the easier if it's been done before. I know Broschwitz had that fancy hall lads built, across from the portal. Elders, council, mayor, there should be some order.

>>14193483

You will submit to the state, citizen.

>>14193424

We called it brocialism on the server, but yeah, it was rather communist. We didn't use any currency whatsoever except for the upkeep, importing materials, and exporting goods. It was communism with the most ideal circumstances.

>>14191959

I came here to say that this sounds comfy as fuck fam.

>>14193050

Doing fucking physics and math right now, hoping summer comes around quickly so I can play with you guys.

>>14193381

A third action que wouldn't honestly be bad along with a means to actually move crates out of the way, but I'm neutral to the matter either way. I manually did everything anyway.

>>14193517

>the only way communism works is if you set it in a fictional game universe with trolls and a group of people who are the exact opposite of communists working together to crusade against all monsters

There has to be some big cosmic level joke here, I just know it.

>>14193505

I always put off building a house for so long that I give up and just make my wagon my house. If you can't store all your shit in there you have hoarding issues. Biggest cons are lack of a bed, and if you die while exploring with it you're fucked.

>>14193562

>the autistic botting hots fag will set up in the middle where all the resources are and gate keep them leaving the two other factions to suck many a dick

>>14193591

I bet there's a way to prevent deeds/guard houses in certain tile areas. Maybe just make the middle deeded by the GM and all players have rights to digging etc.

>quick, make a new server! hurry!

>server goes up

>half of the anons are too burnt out to play again right now

>map is just broken, or is a pre-made map that everyone can download & find ore locations on

>full retard mods that make the game way easier

>admin who has never played the game before

>experience rates set so high that i get 90 in a skill in 1 day

>everyone grinds as hard as they can, finishes everything in one week, then quits because there's nothing left to do and they're burnt out from grinding so quickly

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

DO YOU PEOPLE NOT LEARN FROM THE 50 OTHER SERVERS WE'VE PUT UP?

>>14193589

I'd like some kinda mongolian sled tent which you can have beds and such in as well as travel around

>>14193613

I suppose so

>>14193616

We've decided to play in 6 months. Ignore anyone who says otherwise.

>>14193659

>ring

no

also this vid

>>14193616

Can't blame you for not reading the thread.

This is not what's happening though, fam.

>>14193704

quite honestly the issue mostly is bridging the skill gap between competing factions

>>14193517

>>14193579

i cant remember what it was but we found an actual societal name that fit aply well with what we were doing, it was some form of autonomous communalism, not socialism

The problem with /vv/urm is it's a niche game to two different groups of anons, one who wants high rates and to shitpost in game with a group like them, and another who want rates reduced to Rolf's Senior Citizen Babysitting Online. Neither of these groups is large enough to sustain a server by themselves and compromise leads to members of both groups deciding to fuck off.

>>14193704

Powder is shit, if you're going to make it easy to get you might as well just up the rates to whatever you desire rather than jump through the needed hoops to ensure you can constantly use sleep powder. Powder given due to server downtime works well though.

>>14193656

>>14193616

6 months is too long.

server needs to go up as soon as balance and maps is established.

and also we need a host and the actual server files and client ready

>>14193776

the best that could happen is we have a really high flat map that we level down or the admin map editor creates new holes and fills others every other cycle

>>14193779

Fuck you, I'm not cracking the latest server files any time soon

>>14193805

then half the anons will play on a legit server and be burnt out by the time your pirate server starts up.

>>14193819

Or nobody plays now and nobody gets burnt out.

>>14193588

RIP

>>14193627

>all that sea

Needs more islands. Otherwise, would be fine.

>>14193659

>Sounds fun

Except for anyone who likes the idea of settling down.

>>14193704

>Sand is important too though, which makes me suggest that if we could somehow turn sand into a limited ressource (so that sand tiles can't just easily be created everywhere)

Not so sure about that, but everything else I back.

>summer-hats

I will forever be furious that summer-hats can't be worn aesthetically. FUCKING ROLF, HOW DO YOU FUCK UP HATS?

>>14193984

>HOW DO YOU FUCK UP HATS?

>not wanting your avatar to look like a retarded skinhead

It's like you want a game where the dev isn't a fuckup

>>14193779

>6 months is too long

holy hell what is this child's autism

Do you realize how long it had been since the last server when Brosmouth happened? Here's a hint, lad, it wouldn't have been a fraction of the success it was if our last server had died two months prior.

I agree with whoever suggested it that six months from now is about the minimum I could see for a lasting serb. Actually let people fucking forget about the game for a while and develop nostalgia.

>>14194127

the success of brosmouth was thanks to having normies to shit on, not just time between servers.

>>14194146

this.

if it's just us it'd die out like the last serv did

>>14194149

yeah there is zero point for anyone not playing for cozy if we aren't shitting on normies. Even on a PvE server we shit on normies just through our massive presence. What they spent years building we surpass in a fortnight, what they do in a day we do twelve times over.

>>14194185

to add to this, when I say own faction, I mean as a sub-faction amongst the three factions already in place. So make of that what you will

>>14194167

the best time I had on the last serb was that operation to set up more towers because the hots niggers came over with their herds of bots to make a autism fort and we had to make sure they couldn't just easily push into our land

>>14194185

if you want cuckchan they'd have to have a organized group otherwise we'll just be getting onies and twoies who'll leave as soon as they realize they have to make their own fun

>>14194185

This was attempted last server. 8/v/ steamrolled reddit and halfchan completely and the server eventually died as far as I know.

We need normies to crush, normies that have spent years in their game and on their deeds. Normies that only have Wurm and nothing else. They will fight kicking and screaming fruitlessly against the 8/v/ menace and we will all delight in it.

>>14194185

Considering the cheapness of buying the actual game, why not have a richfag land an official server and then advertise it over in the Wurm forums or whatever?

>>14194196

ponder this: this thread was created by a 4fag from the brohan serb. theyve got a small group of fags ready for when the next serb starts up

>>14194196

Honestly I figured that they would organize themselves, either after realizing there's more than one group in the server, or before they actually start hopping in en masse. This again, implies that they are smart enough to do this.

>>14194209

This was why I figured they would be ready to try again, they might actually try getting more and more people in this time. I also think your idea of normies that have spent years playing would go great with >>14194211's idea of grabbing a richfag and advertising it on Wurm's forums as having real freedom maybe.

This game has probably one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen, it's unbearable.

>>14194233

Nah, they're not uprooting from their home server they've dumped so much time into. The guys on the WRC server, they stayed and dealt with our shit because they'd already sunk so much time in. Imagine having an ego from your time spent and then having some newbies show up to surpass you in no time. All you have then is your time spent. Imagine making a settlement in mythmoor, following the rules just enough so the admins couldn't ban without it making them look bad and absolutely conquering the "best" wurm unlimited server. Imagine the butthurt and rage.

>>14194252

underage leave

>>14194253

That's a point I didn't even consider. To even get a group of people dedicated that much to a brand new server would require an event so catastrophic to border on making most quit the game outright.

Although now I wouldn't mind entertaining the idea of joining a "No Fun Allowed" just so we could cause mass butthurt from just simply outdoing them at every turn. But God knows anons can't stand that sort of admin faggotry for long.

I do still feel like we need to find people willing to (even if they don't realize it) get memed on by our group. At least so the pvp lovers can feel satisfied.

>>14194211

Because 99% of the people here are cheapskates and wont buy it, its pointless even trying.

>current most populous server is 7.5x skill gain, 3x action

>>14194288

Have faith, Hitler. $1 isn't that big of a hurdle. If we bully the poorfags enough, we might just win them over.

Is WRC still up? anyone who wants to play now we could join that and try to steamroll that server, until the /v/ server eventually comes up.

>>14194327

>reddit had the equivalent of mud huts

Why am I not even fucking surprised? Did someone not explain that Thatch or stone was a fucking thing? Maybe someone forgot to hand them a wiki page so they could at least learn to do stuff.

Still at least they were trying? Maybe?

>>14194341

https://sites.google.com/site/digitalrefugeecamp/

I have no idea if the server is still up but that is their site. If they are still up I think they might have made a new map and I'm pretty sure all of our characters are deleted.

>>14194309

>>current most populous server is 7.5x skill gain, 3x action

Disgusting normies.

>>14194363

>the IP address is not valid

Plus the forum is also gone. Looks like it all fell apart after we left.

>>14194327

8/v/ was well off since wurm was extremely familar with the game

4/v/ was a bunch of newbies who had to scramble around and learn how to play competently without knowing how to check their progress

reddit existed?

>>14194375

Jesus. Were we really holding it together?

>>14194382

We were their common enemy. When we left it was just hermits shitposting together. The spainiard running it wasn't getting donations.

>>14194209

>8/v/ steamrolled reddit and halfchan completely and the server eventually died as far as I know.

No server lasts forever. We won that one. I was happy with it. Considering the absolutely chaotic start we had, filled with betrayal, drama and bullshit, Brohan had a damn good run.

>>14194284

I can already see the badmin drama happening but I agree it would be amazing to fuck the normies on their own turf.

>>14194412

the admin of mythmoor is a gigantic faggot and would make it all the better. Plus they have an open disagreement so we could watch the shit fly.

>>14194363

>sites.google.com

how are they going to release pirated clients and then put their site on google. i thought they had their own website before.

>>14194454

They did.

>>14194327

>>14194376

Reddit didn't even exist outside of around 3-4 people on MR. Most people that weren't 8/v/ or 4/v/ were coming from other sites as hostfag was spamming every site you could think of including the Pornhub forums with the client and IP. The only known person on HotS that claimed in global to Reddit got called a nigger and disappeared shortly after during week one. Either way playing with and not against normalfags are a mistake as the 4 or so that converted to HotS were the ones that knocked down all the good walls to replace them with shit ones and didn't lock anything they made including the fucking gates. If it comes down to 8/v/ vs 4/v/ again there is going to be no contest again as 8/v/ has more experience, better recruitment, and general time as everyone on the top playtime on Brohan was JK save the HotS priest who came in third place from afk macroing praying/meditation.

People are really grossly overestimating Reddit/Normalfags jumping on a new server even if its a non-pirate one, Wurm is a dying game and anyone who actually plays is settled on their causal baby serbs.

>>14194490

this is why we must go to the casual baby serbs to crush them

>>14194490

>including the Pornhub forums

rofl, you got sauce on that?

>>14194490

>everyone on the top playtime on Brohan was JK save the HotS priest who came in third place from afk macroing

There was a playtime ranking? Do you have it, I wanna see where I ranked.

>>14194523

https://feedback.pornhub.com/forums/184663-pornhub-feedback-and-suggestions/suggestions/20020198-playing-wurm

>>14194525

Hostfag came by the HotS disagreement for some questions about a ago week and gave some statistics like 3-5 players in playtime, Champions and their points when the server died, combat ranking and a few others. I could dig up all he gave out and format it better in a little bit while but someone could probably pester him to give out the actual stats.

>>14194539

link doesn't work.

So what's the archery game like in Wurm? Any room for Ranger/Hunter/Innawoods type play where you can spend half the time fucking off and hunting?

>>14191297

>Mol-Rehan

Sneaky bastard, I see what you did there green blood.

>>14194624

archery OP. you can get a longbow and some arrows and tickle any monster from a very safe distance away while they dont react.

in PvP arrows ignore all armor you have equipped so you can surprise the highest ranked PvP person with like 4 other people and kill him before he can react or run away

Any you cunts there when we dug a happy merchant on to the actual map?

Funny as fuck, didn't the admin get piss off at that one though?

>>14194651

That was one guy. I have the webm somwhere. I don't think the admins cared.

>>14194662

>I don't think the admins cared.

I could've sworn the admin got pissed at us for something.

Was it the swastikas?

>>14194495

>>14194490

This is exactly why the factions must be named "8chan", "4chan" and maybe "normans" or "reddit" depending on what we think would work better. If 4chan would not have split themself between MR and HOTS they might have not shit the bed constantly.

Brohan went pretty damn well. Let's learn our lessons from the failed servers but let's also take a look at what Brohan did right and build on that. 8ch VS 4ch worked well enough even with 4ch being split up, just imagine if they didn't split and if the admin wouldn't make bad decicions.

Though all in all, those admins were not so bad. They just kept too much communicative distance between them and the players.

>>14194653

Worst advertisement for a server ever.

>PORNHUB

>Just expect they know what Wurm is

>No info about the game itself

>"Go inform yourself even though you have no reason to be interested."

Judging by the thread OPs we had we definetly can do better than that.

>>14194635

Messer here did you guys ever find out what was up with that key in the coffin?

>>14194695

servers need to curb town guard abuse. even a well garrisoned militia would have too much trouble fighting 50 guards popping out of a wall all at once

>>14194722

Delayed gratification is a hell of a drug anon, don't go too crazy

>>14194716

I didn't do the adventuring because we couldn't find the right dungeon that would fit that key. You had to find the correct dungeon basically. Dungeon being a tunnel in the mountains. It would be rare items and maybe 1 or 2 trolls from what I remember hearing about.

>>14194716

It was for a chest at the volcano to the northeast. I tried to get the key from him but he didn't want to give it up.

>>14194848

Not really, but let it die anyway

>>14194757

I never saw the full extend of the power of guards, I think. But here is how we dealt with them.

IIRC, when we first raided 4chan our plan was to get our best tank (champion, king, damn strong armor, artifact shield etc) to just tank all of them at once. We quickly learned that this idea was fucking terrible and fucked off.

We assumed, because of that, that due to there being pretty much no cost for 50 guards 4chan would be unraidable. Of course counting 50 guards by hands is a bit tough, I have no idea if they really had that many. They were a lot of guards though, that much is certain.

We solved the problem at our final raid by kiting the main force of the guards in a circle while picking the guards out and fighting them one by one. This isn't as easy as it sounds and sometimes it went a bit out of control due to some guards no longer following, respawning or pulling too many at once, but the longer you survive this chaos the fewer guards there are - at the beginning I wasn't sure we'd make it, I barely managed to heal at least two people and one horse literally one second before they would have died, but it's possible, you just need to stick with the game plan. Of course good old archery also helped a lot seeing as it's OP as fuck.

50 guards CAN be fair game, especially if there are no competent players to aid them. But the upkeep costs have to be high enough to justify having them.

>>14194848

My theory is that the "let it die"-guy used to be one of us and now he's just very commited to his job but deep down he feels a little bit of warmth in his heart when he reads that we're still here, not letting it die, and he regrets it a little that he wasn't there for all the serbs he missed.

Waiting for another half of a year is pretty consistant with what most of the people said right after Brohan. I wouldn't want to wait any longer either. But yeah, someone has to set this shit up.

Usually I'm a "if you want it done right do it yourself" kinda guy but I have zero experience with hosting, being an admin and all that stuff. Not to mention that I live in a timezone which isn't really ideal for this job, seeing as the mayority of us are burgers. Plus I'm way too lazy and lack the self-discipline. :^)

>>14194971

maybe it's krieger

>>14195123

Forgot to turn off flags, oops.

>>14195123

if we rolled onto one of those megaservers with the immortal training dummies we could be a band of roving mongols with shit tons of arrows

>>14194945

The 50 guards with no upkeep was pure BS, on the one hand,in the end,we took them down sure.On the other we did it just barely,with the wurm equivalent of the power rangers.

We had a mag priest as the tank, with the artifact shield,really high defensive stats and a champ troll on its leash which was not as helpful as it would've been had it been able to enter HotS deed.

King,champ of mag, with sword of mag,really high strenght on top due to him blacksmithing.

Champ of Vyn,Champ of Fo,an 80 FS lumberjack,and 2 fags with archery and bow in their 70's,also Razgah was there,he helped.Everyone had high QL gear,70FS at least Raz not included :^) and some at least,high QL enchants.Despite all this,i still didn't think we'd make it,it took all that,plus kiting to keep most of the shadow's from overwhelming us,with the tank still having to hold 3 or 4 on him at times.

So yea 50 guards can be doable,but shit needs really high upkeep.

>>14195181

nigger i made 3 months of upkeep just by selling 20 pairs of 60ql cloth gloves at the spawn merchant. if you had a problem with upkeep youre retarded

>>14195201

Nobody has problems making shit to sell to merchants, it's when there's more people around competing to sell their crap to the merchant first that it becomes an issue.

>>14195181

Are you talking about tower guards or spirit templars? Were there 50 of them because there were a bunch of high ql towers close together or because they spawned when you tried to capture the tower?

>>14195201

>>14195221

Don't they have a limit to how much coin they have?

I remember on one server I exhausted all of the spawn traders money buy selling a gorillion clay pots.

>>14195229

Yeah, we had it easy on brohan because it was really only us and cuckchan. On servers with higher populations it's a massive pain in the ass to be able to find a merchant that still has the fund to buy your shit.

>>14195201

Exactly,even with upkeep,it would've been too easy to maintain the shadows/templars,it needs to be higher.

>>14195227

HotS equivalent of spirit templars,the shadows,this was on their settlement deed.They came out when we'd trigger the alarm for it.no idea on how many towers inside though,or if that even matters for settlement guards/templars.

>>14195241

This is true,i'm arguing for higher upkeep,due to it being easier to acquire currency with a lower population.

>>14195283

upkeep would still be easy to get just from higher ghost density to reduce land cost and more people to get bounty money.

the best restriction would be ghost/exponential land area up to a max so that smaller villages can rely on ghosts and bigger villages have to start relying on its players. tower guards are unrestricted since theyre already self regulated by the game

lets say a 50x50 village size should be able to hold 10 ghosts plus however many tower guards they can fit in

>>14195283

upkeep would still be easy to get just from higher ghost density to reduce land cost and more people to get bounty money.

the best restriction would be ghost/exponential land area up to a max so that smaller villages can rely on ghosts and bigger villages have to start relying on its players. tower guards are unrestricted since theyre already self regulated by the game

lets say a 10x10 outpost can hold 5 ghosts and a 50x50 village can hold ~14

>>14195165

Never played on megaservers, though how are you going to sleep on the wilderness?

>>14195181

50 templars are pretty much bullshit unless you have a group of Wurm power rangers, and even so, those fucking shits will respawn real quick.

>>14195336

I am fine with this and would be a much better solution then simply high upkeep,went with that because,in theory,upkeep should be less of a hassle to get right.

Had even one HotS decided to shoot arrows or in any way assist their guards we would definitely not have been able to pull it off.The ability to actually enter and raid another settlement would be nice.I want a raid to fail because we didn't have our shit together/it was well defended by its citizens.not because we don't have an army of 20 or so autists in tip top fighting shape,who'd still be beaten back if even 1 enemy decided to aid it's guards.

How would you measure how effective a settlement is at defense/offense when/if all citizens were on and ready for a fight?

This is the real guard question.

You can't have walls be invincible, land unable to be tunneled under, or gates be unpickable.

But at the same time you can't expect everyone to be on all the time sitting around waiting to be raided.

There was a game that /vg/ got into a few years back called sZone which later became Stalker Online and in those games clans could own bases. Only during a 1(2?) hour window on saturdays could another clan(s) try to take over the owned bases by capturing flags around the base while fighting off the defending clan members. It was a way to ensure clans could have access to a base, not have to worry about some huge offensive while everyone is sleeping, and allowed the defending clan to know exactly when to log on and have some guaranteed pvp fun.

>>14195470

I'd honestly prefer designated siege times

>>14195470

>scheduled pvp hours

I'd rather login to find my deed a smoldering crater.

>>14195519

>>14195525

It worked but yes it wasn't frequent enough. More than 1 day of the week and more than just 1-2 hours. There is still world pvp everywhere else just town sieges would be kept on this timer. It's not perfect but maybe there is some sort of way to have bases protected from the night raids.

>>14195519

That's another example of a DM doing something within the game. He could set up a once-a-week Kingdom siege.

Or it could be like this: Saturday, a traveling man visits the Jenn-Kellon Kingdom's tavern. He tells a story that the other Kingdom, Mol-Rehan, was holding a prisoner who hails from JK Kingdom literally someone in JK is teleported into a 1 tile prison into MR's town. He goes on explaining why, and that they are going to roast him on a stake by midnight. If JK wants, they will declare a rescue (requiring some sort of siege battle) operation and get the prisoner out.

Just designate a weekly time for happenings.

>>14195550

I wouldn't mind fighting off the occasional monster siege with that as well myself.

>>14195470

pvp can be managed by players, you don't need admins to hold their hands. People can design and build their own shit and create their own alliances to handle things when they themselves are offline. If your suggestion had more to do with mechanics that simply PROMOTED sieging at specific times rather than outright enforcing it, i'd be more inclined to agree with it. For example, during a specified time perhaps remove the respawn mechanic on guards to encourage people to attempt a siege. This way people could actually drain enemy coffers for a change instead of being forced to kite guards around and simple pilfer enemy supplies due to the insurmountable wall that are spirit guard respawn timers.

>>14195550

In-game reasons to raid someone is neat but in that specific situation I'd say let them die. Also forcing someone to be captured is pretty shitty.

>>14195525

To add to my previous response.

Those who liked the system asked many times to allow more than one raid per week.

Those who didn't like it had a very good reason which was, it disallowed clans to basically be sneaky.

In the real world places got raided all the time at the most inconvenient times, like when the army is elsewhere.

There has to be a balance between allowing people to be dickheads but not so much that nobody wants to play after losing 50 hours of work they poured into a game.

>>14195546

you could do it in a none way as well, for example you'll get god bonuses for sieges on certain periods of time and if you're successful in that you gain something you can only get during then

>>14195550

or something like this but less forced tbh

>>14195575

>>14195587

Both great ideas

>>14195550

>guy gets kidnapped by DM to dungeon cell

>guys whispers his friends, "what happened, where am I"

>everyone confused

>DM announces "BLAH BLAH HAS CAPTURED YOUR PLAYER, HE RESIDES IN THEIR CITY, HE WILL BE BURNED AT THE STAKE AT MIDNIGHT UNLESS YOU CAPTURE HIM!"

>good fuck that guy

>it would take two hours to even get there

>my FS is too low, fuck that

>"WILL NOBODY SAVE HIM?"

>maybe in a bit

>time passes, nobody comes, guy in cell has since logged out

<some time later in threads

>remember when that shitty admin tried to make us fight, lol

>yeah what a fag

I just don't see that happening

>>14195586

>nobody wants to play after losing 50 hours of work they poured into a game

The fuck are you on about? The time you throw away in wurm translates to skill levels, not whatever crap raiders manage to pick up. Unless they're autistic enough slowly level your buildings you're not going to lose much time at all.

If you want a time where you're encouraged to test out your PvP "skills" wurm already has it, it's called HotA.

>>14195614

Now there's an idea

>>14195614

lliterally The Purge

>>14195604

>>14195596

>>14195550

PvP should be completely voluntary, without DM influence or encouragement. PvE should be the realm of the DM

>>14195622

>Unless they're autistic enough slowly level your buildings

They are

>>14195614

>key doesn't say which kingdom's chest it belongs to

Yes please

>>14195614

it's like cuckolding but we're all the woman

>>14194653

fucking lol

this reminds me of todd spam.

server fucking when

>>14196288

server is up now, it's at 107.170.185.23