/v/ - Video Game BOXES

>>14145858

I suck at this game. I was playing that dragon hunter quest chain, and I could barely keep up with the growing stacks around me. It was the fairy dragon hunting quest. Are there any exploits you anons know about that might help me overcome massive stacks?

>>14145902

>>14145899

Tower or Dungeon, I think. While still being pretty decent, Haven has by far the worst music.

>>14145896

Necropolis always, too bad the music starts getting good by the time you're already finished managing the town

>>14145900

>the fairy dragon hunting quest

Is that a dev made map you're talking about?

If you're a complete beginner and suck at everything, I'd suggest starting with the queen campaign.

>>14145896

Tower, definitely.

My favourite town is Castle though.

Stronghold has great BG music.

Shame it's units are a bit shitty.

>>14145905

Stronghold has the best theme.

>>14145900

Well I'm not sure which campaign or other map you're on from that, but you have to play the game aggressively and use a lot of heroes with only 2 actually being your primary army and the rest being your lackeys. If you find yourself stonewalled by AI that's because the AI doesn't have an opening to exploit on you so now you're in a turtling match which you will lose because the AI will amass it's forces until it can smash through you. And Necro faction is the most OP faction.

>Might and Magic

>You play as a party of heroes

>Heroes of Might and Magic

>It's an RTS game

I don't get it

>>14145858

That's All for One, right? I remember playing that on easy and getting my ass handed to me by the cpu. Still had amazing amounts of fun.

>>14146498

>>Heroes of Might and Magic

>you lead a group of heroes

What is the problem here?

>>14146849

Can you imagine what the porn would involve?

Because I can't.

>>14145896

I really like the Sylvan music, although Castle is and always has been my favorite faction since the first time I played this game when I was 3. This was literally the first video game I ever played. I wonder if that makes anyone here feel old.

>>14147294

Probably Gelu getting fucked in the ass or Queen Catherine getting spitroasted.

>>14147854

>There will never be a Might and Magic RTS

>If there was one it would be made by Ubishit

>>14148307

I remember someone here saying there was a porn mod where the monsters fuck instead of fight, but I have never seen it so he could have just been pulling my leg.

HoMM3 as Solmyer (sp) wizard with chain lightning from tower I think. Nothing is better. Pick up a scholar and some estates-coin earning heroes. Seperate your units like 30,30,30,1,1,1 go into combat hit chain lightning, kill a few 1,1,1 no biggie level 1 troops overwhelming victory time and time again, go back to town for mana, rinse-repeat.

>>14148988

fuck, i gotta boot up a necropolis game myself, time to spam the undead!

>>14148988

Wait I thought you could only use necromancy to get regular liches with the Cloak of the Undead King?

>>14149769

I'm going to guess that the reason it summoned Power Liches is because the army was full and contained a stack of Power Liches, but no regular Liches.

>>14150253

Oh ok, I assume it works with other units gained by necromancy too then but propably gives a reduced amount?

>>14150285

I do not recall any such penalty.

>>14147892

V is really good, but the main problem with it is the battle grid.

Having squares instead of hexagons makes the game not as fun as 3.

>>14148307

I'd fugg the queen, but she needs more polygons and better rendering.

>>14150389

IV had some amazing tracks.

Also, having different versions of Haven's theme from V depending on the situation was fantastic.

>>14149769

The cloak of the undead king or whatever causes any undead resurrected after the battle to be a higher tier than one depending on the necromancy skill level. Level one with the cloak gives zombies, then wights, and then liches at expert necromancy. It defaults to the regular version if their is a stack of liches, or a free space in your army. If you have power liches, and no space for another unit group it will instead raise them as power liches that way you don't lose them.

>>14152327

*if there is a stack of liches

HOMM3 Necro is overrated. The skeleton gimmick only works on random maps with hundreds of level 1s to farm skeletons on. Otherwise, you have some of the worst level 1, 2 and 3 in the game, and have a hard time even capturing mines early. Then comes the vampire - finally a good one - and the upgraded one is obviously top tier. It takes until LEVEL FUCKING FIVE to get a shooter - until then, expect any fight to create significant losses. Level 6 is also top tier, but level 7 is shit again.

So L1, 2, 3 and 7 are shit. 4 is decent unupgraded, amazing upgraded (clears neutrals by itself without losses). Five is decent only because it's a shooter. 6 is the best in the game.

Compare that to Castle, for example - top tier level 1, shooter level 2. This is very significant since it allows you to clear weak neutrals early without losses. Top tier level 3. Decent level 4. Weak level 5 but shooter. Good level 6 and 7.

Seriously, try playing Necro on ANY CD map on impossible difficulty. You can barely scrape by.

I have never played one of these games before. Which do I start with?

>>14152746

Loved 1 but it's primitive and unbalanced. 3 is considered the peak.

>>14152733

Doesn't help that the vampire dwelling upgrade costs a significant amount of crystal (at least two piles if I remember) so you might not get the chance to rush it.

>>14152746

3 is the best, get the HD mod for it, you'll be grateful you did.

5 is also very good, but not up to par with 3, worth it at least for the campaign though.

>>14152733

I haven't played HOMM3 in ages and I can't say I'm very good at it but when I played it I basically never bought bone/ghost dragons. They're just so fucking useless. Is there some pro who can convince me otherwise? The only scenario I ever bought tier 7 as necro was when I was drowning in gold and wanted to buy every building just for the hell of it.

>>14153340

Nah the tier 6 units are so good that you can get by with just converting the non-upgraded dragon units into bone dragons and sticking with upgraded non-Necropolis dragons.

Where can I get portraits for HoMM3 in 128x128, or 256x256? I want to put some portraits into grimrock, but grimrock requires 128x128, and I don't want to upscale the smaller ones I am finding.

>>14150399

> squares vs hexagons

Hexagons should be reserved for battle tactics maps. They are perfect for Heroes' battles.

Squares are better for big maps, should be used in overworld/underworld.

>>14145900

I recommend you try beating other campaigns first if you haven't already. The WE WUZ DRAGUN HUNTAZ N SHEIT campaign is tough as nails and should be one of the last you'll play.

>>14152733

>The skeleton gimmick only works on random maps with hundreds of level 1s to farm skeletons on.

Guess what kind of maps multiplayer matches are played on? It's random maps

You don't need lots of level 1s either by the way, the way most random map seeds are you're gonna be swimming in skellies really soon. The one big problem though is that a lot of the time you'll need both Slow and Haste since the skellies are slow as molasses.

>>14154511

Your best bet might be to look into the HD re-release they did a little while ago. IIRC they only remastered the base game for some retarded reason, but that'd be a place to start.

>>14154799

Does anyone have the pic where ubijew lies about their HD remix, putting the old game's map sprites as battle sprites so the new "handrawn" ones look better in comparision?

>>14154934

Do you know if the other big mods (HOTA, WOG) are compatible with the HD mod?

Also does anyone know of any way to convert a map into an image? I spent like three hours making a map for a TTRPG in the map editor, and it looks really nice, but I have so far been unable to find any tools to convert it. I really don't feel like trying to stitch together a bunch of screenshots in paint.

>>14154593

>Guess what kind of maps multiplayer matches are played on? It's random maps

>You don't need lots of level 1s either by the way, the way most random map seeds are you're gonna be swimming in skellies really soon. The one big problem though is that a lot of the time you'll need both Slow and Haste since the skellies are slow as molasses.

That was my point. Well, I've played online on CD maps and maybe if more people did that, skeletons wouldn't be a problem. A few years ago, I was able to find people on goyranger that would play with me on CD maps. And it turns out that Necro, without the influx of skeletons, is one of the worst towns, if not the worst. I think the only one that doesn't have a shooter in the first three levels.

>>14155505

HOTA is compatible with the HD mod. Don't know about WOG though

Everyone's favorite Creature Rankings!

Level 1:

Centaur - 10 HP, high speed. Easy.

Halberdier - 10 HP but lower speed.

Master Gremlin - A level 1 shooter! Clears neutrals easy.

Sprite - Fast and no retaliation. Sign me up!

Hobgoblin - Fast and good stats.

Infernal Troglodyte - Decent stats, immune to Blind.

Gnoll Marauder - Decent stats, but no blind immunity.

Skeleton Warrior - weak stats.

Familiar - fast and weak.

>>14158277

That doesn't even exist.

>>14155505

HOTA is 100% compatible with HD mod. There's actually a download for it integrated in the HD mod launcher because HOTA is made by the HD mod devs.

>>14158323

https://i.imgur.com/KTTeifn.jpg

That?

>>14158323

It's just a screenshot that was made way back in 2014 when people actually liked the show.

The mod doesn't actually exist.

>>14158351

>they used world map sprites and put them against the battle ones

>they thought it was going to sell well

You can fool some people all the time, all the people for a time, but not everyone all the time.

>>14158351

Thanks.

How the fuck did those faggots think that shit would fly.

It's not like half the globe is still playing the damn original game.

>>14158535

I think the eastern europeans and slavs are actually playing their own HoMM knockoff, I've got it installed maybe I should actually play it.

>>14158634

You mean King's bounty?

Could we arrange some /v/ H3 matches?

>>14158643

They're really good. It's only a single player campaign, but I enjoyed it. The first one is OK but Armored Princess is where the series starts to improve in leaps and bounds.

>>14158655

I know man, I'm Russian

>>14158634

HoMM is a knockoff of Kings Bounty if anything you illiterate nigger

Personal opinion about Heroes V vs III

Heroes III

Pros:

>Hexagons

>Far better worldbuilding and far more interesting and less generic world

>Sci-fi being portrayed as fantasy is always a fun theme

>Memorable music

>Amazing atmosphere

>Runs on literally anything

>Has an active community which makes maps and mods

>Far more interesting story than Heroes V

>Town look really good

>Generally the game which basically created the basis for the entire series

>You are easily able to play it through e-mail if you want

>Taking turns is fast as fucc

>Best optimized game of the eternity award, will run on fucking everything

Cons:

>Balance issues

>The towns aren't as diverse in gameplay as in V

>A huge step down in the artstyle department when it comes to II

Heroes V

Pros:

>The town screens look absolutely gorgeus

>Alternative upgrades for every unit which can completely change the way you play the game

>Every town now has a gameplay gimmick which makes them more diverse

>Music is still good

>Better balance than Heroes 3

>Every town is useful now

>In my opinion better Hero progression system

Cons:

>Squares

>Turns are slow as fuck

? Some people don't like the artstyle I personally don't mind it

>Awful, generic setting

>The sci-fi elements are gone

>The community isn't as lively as for Heroes 3 so less mods and less maps

>Not as well optimize

>>14158644

We could arrange a play-by-save file type of game.

>>14158804

That could probably work, but it would take a long bloody time.

Well, it's not like we're going anywhere, really.

>>14158643

>>14158746

Eador - Genesis not King's Bounty.

>>14158981

>fat liberation

wat

>>14159078

it's a Dr.Who episode fanfic,where all the fat in the body of fatties becomes sentient and just walks out their bodies and goes back to their own planet.

>>14159157

Actually might move armorer to mid, it's not that good.

>>14159157

This one is much shittier than the older one. Offense and Armorer are much better than absolute garbage like Water (what are you gonna cast Mirth against me?) and Fire which is ok, but not really that useful unless you're going for berserk or armageddon meme builds. Also, fucking intelligence in top tier? You do know that you can just stay in town to replenish all your mana, right? Also there's a reason why Diplo is banned in multiplayer, I don't care how many shitty counterarguments people keep presenting, but until you get your ass kicked multiple times by a master of the Slav runes like I did you won't see just how Diplo completely breaks early game progression.

>>14159236

>>14159303

Armourer and a lot of mediocre skills like sorcery are similar in a sense – only good for the heroes that have the specialization.

The initial chart was more of a guide, telling you what to prioritize without regards to the main hero's spec when you got a level up.

If you don't have the armourer spec but have to choose between it and, say, offence, you go for offence.

That's why it's a mid skill. Also, I think it's bugged in sieges, but I'm not sure if the HD mod fixed that.

Finally, diplo can either break the game or be useless depending on the map settings.

It's not necessarily an instant win.

>>14159303

Well, Water has Clone and Prayer, two top tier spells…but they're level 4, so maybe should be moved to High. Diplomacy is only broken on random maps.

>>14159385

Wow. So we can easily organize a /v/ match now. Let's get on it then.

>>14159366

Also Teleport is very useful against AI sitting in his castle.

>>14159385

Are the matches HotA only or can you choose vanilla as well?

>>14159416

you can just ban cove and play on vanilla map if you want

>>14159428

I see.

Well, that's good to know, thanks.

>>14155505

WoG is partially compatible, HD feature set should work without any need for tweaks, HD+ feature set [like the battle replay, etc] are not available but WoG has scripts for most of those things in first place, so you don't need HD+ for that.

There should be "HD mod" inside ERA 2 launcher for WoG if I remember correctly.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=37208

Also sidenote, if you are using WoG 3.58f, be aware that ERA II runs on older version of WoG scripts, so the scripts like "units rebalance", "advanced commander stats and skills" "spells rebalance", etc wont be exactly the same.

In exchange you get shitton critical fixes that ERA II brings to WoG and compatibility for further mods based on it.

>>14160826

I actually preferred the vampires in HOMM5 over HOMM3, if only due to their aesthetics

Reminded me of warhammer a bit and i felt they were a little less stereotypical movie vampire and more fantasy

So can we arrange a match using the HD mod online lobby? I really have an urge to play, like, right now.

>>14155505

wog is compatible, just be sure to turn off hardware cursor from the HD launcher, as that fuck things up

>>14164124

I'd be up for it. I only have 100-something hours of experience though

>>14164138

Okay. I haven't ever used this online lobby, by the way. Don't even know if it works.

Anyway, made a game. It's called "anon game" and password is 8ch. Come join me there and we'll talk there. I'll let you choose the map if you want.

>>14164152

Oh by right now you mean right now. Im retarded. I can play rn but I'll have to disconnect in 30 minutes or so

>>14164173

Maybe we'll get to finish a small map.

>>14164176

Shit, I also need horn to use online lobbies I thought I only needed the hd mod. Sorry I am actually retarded, but I can play in 2 hours with all mods and everything

>>14164190

Okay, I'll still be here. If anyone else wants to play earlier, feel free. Game is "anon game" and password is 8ch.

>>14164254

Squares wouldn't be so bad if you couldn't attack diagonally and if large creatures didn't take up so much space.

Stopping the enemy from attacking a unit by blocking his path is virtually impossible in 5.

It takes away a lot of the strategy and planning that you sometimes have in 3.

>>14163378

Except the movies were based off books and the books were very loosely based off myth. Your claims are ridiculous.

I'm hosting again! Game "anon game". Password: 8ch. Come play with me!

By the way, I'm also seeding a torrent with everything required to play HOMM3 online. It contains HOMM3 Complete preinstalled, and the installers for both HD Mod and Hota 1.51. Can anyone check if it works? First time I'm seeding my own torrent.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:be4b3e15ccab9bd75f0cecbb1c152e07b522d2e7&dn=HOMM3-online.rar

Come on, don't tell me no one on /v/ wants to play this game?

>>14165169

i dont see your game

>>14165195

it's there now

>>14163329

Most of the unit aesthetics in HoMM5 was ripped off quite shamelessly from Warhammer Fantasy miniatures. The worst offenders are the two Elf factions (Dungeon and Sylvan) only missing the pointy helmets. I mean for God's sake they have blade dancers and witch elves. Complete with 80's Elvira hair for the latter part. But the Haven faction is clearly designed to resemble the Empire right down to the hammer-wielding Sigmarite priests and the Necropolis faction is designed to resemble a Vampire Counts army right down to sword-wielding vampires with topknots.

Fun fact: During development they were forced to change one of their unit designs as Games Workshop was threatening a lawsuit. It was the Dendroid which originally was a fairly faithful render of the Woodelf Treeman miniature. They played it safe after that and made the rather original and weird design that shipped.

Had a fun game with anon. Was THIS close to fucking it up when I attacked his castle too early. Army-wise I would have lost, but was lucky to get Deemer with Meteor shower in the tavern.

I might be able to play one more today if anyone else wants.

Heh, just got a game with (I think) a russian guy (because he sucked at english). He attacked me at day 4 while I sat in the castle. Made one move, said "gg" and left. But I think he could have won that battle.

is homm2 any good?

>>14152733

>with hundreds of level 1s to farm skeletons on

I never really had this problem as Necro. You are turning all your zombies and wights into skeletons right?I also hope you aren't upgrading them

>>14168666

Yes it is good. It's just a fact that 3 is better.

>>14168716

>I also hope you aren't upgrading them

why?

>>14168782

You get less from Necromancy if you upgrade, I think 66%.

Anyway, does anyone want to play?

>>14165443

Huh. So that's what happened.

That's really funny, but it explains why the designs were actually decent.

Good to know.

>>14168787

I'd try, but I'm not very good at the game, not to mention busy for the next 9 hours or so.

>>14168839

I was hoping to organize a /v/ match with 8 people against each other but it doesn't seem to be possible. Maybe 4 people, at least. Well, I'm here if anyone wants to play one on one.

>>14168879

>Well, I'm here if anyone wants to play one on one.

I would like to play but im getting my ass kicked by even Normal AI so i have to learn the ropes first

>>14168903

You will learn faster playing against a real person. Come on in! It's fun as fuck.

I'm hosting if you want to play (on the online lobby). Game: anon game. Password: 8ch.

>>14168923

Well even if i wanted i cant now because i gotta go to university in about 1 hour

>>14168935

Ok, got a game with some russian guy heh.

>>14168944

Wow, that sucked. It was going well and suddenly I've started having 1 minute turn limits and I couldn't do shit. No thanks for that kind of game.

HOMM4 was a piece of shit and there is nothing you can say that would make it good

fuck off "muh music" fags