/v/ - Video Games

>When will developers realize the "open world" gimmick only works in MMOs that are heavily populated and have lots of actual people populating the world and making it alive.

Confirmed for being a wow kiddie who knows nothing about video game design and atmosphere. Go play morrowind you unbearable faggot.

Shit games for kids

Open world Pokemon would have the potential to be best game ever. Get a clue.

Not really hard to add enemy variety at least since they already have 600 to choose from. But it will still be in turn based form. That won't ever change.

>he doesn't want game freak to one day never lol make a pokemon game that includes every region and pokemon in the series so far

>he doesn't want a neat little character creation option at the beginning of the game

Pokemon was already somewhat of an open world game though?

>>14037384

I'd take that over another region with the same boring shit and a handful of more uninspired mons.

>>14037384

Source?

>>14037384

>>14037437

Also take your "no online multiplayer" bitching and fuck off to the blizzard forums you fucking fags.

>>14037384

>>looks like gen 7 on the 3DS will be the last great game we have

>this is what retards actually believe

You pokefaggots deserve nothing more

>>14037437

Who the fuck wants to play games with a fucking sad case like you. You live a sad lonely life so I guess MMO erp is your only social interaction. You will die alone.

>>14037457

>>14037454

not an argument

Sources? Evidence? Or are you sperging out over what you imagined?

>>14037462

>those insults

where do you think you are?

>>14037497

well he's not wrong.

>>14037511

this

>>14037481

>from 5

You want to fucking fight mate

>>14037546

H A N D H O L D I N G

>>14037591

There's a difference between staying true to your previous games, and stagnating hard.

>>14037384

That UE4 picture is probably just one of the "guy does a thing on UE4" kids.

The real game probably will look like ass because will again use a gamefreak proprietary cel shading engine thing.

>>14037528

While 4 and 5 did have 3d to them, it was mostly seen in the environment, or in gen 5 some cutscenes. It didnt affect fights and there were still a decent amount of sprite work. With 6 it went full 3d and while some parts did its job, the fights chugged, the landscape was pretty forgettable and it's focus of showing off that the land was 3d made it feel like a tech demo rather than it's own world.

>>14037391

>Morrowind

>Baby's first RPG for the XBOX

Go play Daggerfall. They cut so much fucking content for Morrowind it's ridiculous. Like comparing Oblivion and Skyrim, Morrowind was the first casualisation.

>>14037921

>Thinks of the Xbox when he thinks of Morrowind

>Muh copy+pasted settlements and bloated dungeons everywhere

Certified shitposter, I presume?

>>14037384

>like zelda botw

So a good game ?

>and Skyrim

So a bad game ?

Pick one you faggot.

The very fact that it will be a pokemon game will mean the world won't be dead

Because there will be pokemon in it

And unlike dungeons in zelda, they can't water those down any more than the main series already has

The only hurdle would be if they're actually willing to change how "HMs" work instead of just letting you call taxis that use them for you

>>14037979

botw is shit

>>14037646

I know but you seemed to imply Gen 4 is better than Gen 5

2>5>4>3>1>7>6

Knowing GameFreak, they're not going to make a decent product.

>>14037921

>Go play Daggerfall

Yeah, I don't really like the idea of messing with dosbox, dealing with constant crashes, and putting up with a shitty control scheme where even if you change it it resets itself every time you leave the game. Maybe when Daggerfall Unity is a thing, but until then I'll stick with morrowind in the OpenMW engine.

Is there confirmation Pokémon is going to run on Unreal Engine?

>>14037398

This. Nintendo in general

>>14037384

At least it would be something new and not same shit in another box for 20 years.

The only way it could backfire is filling it with microtransactions everywhere.

>>14038163

I can see a Pokémon spin-off in UE4 if GF wants to experiment. This is fucking nothing because Pokémon at the core is databases. Database for type matching, database for Pokémon generation, database for storing Pokémon, etc. GF would have to recode their libraries to run in UE4. And since UE4 has a free dev kit it opens the door for hackers to exploit the game once Switch is cracked.

>>14038180

>once Switch is cracked.

yeah but those nips are so paranoid I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while for that to happen

Who gives a fuck?

Pokemon has always been a really shitty grind game for kids.

I will never understand how adult people can still play it.

>>14037384

Pokemon has always been a fairly open world, nignog

>>14038285

Anon you don't understand IT'S A HUGE GAME CHANGING ADDITION TO THE SERIES

>>14038276

How would Shadow Pokémon work with 7th gen mechanics with megas and Z-moves?

>>14037399

a open online massively multiplayer pokemon on pc would be the best game ever A switch game would be shit

>>14038285

Gyms have trainers you battle in order to unlock the boss fight.

Trials have mini games you play in order to unlock the boss fight.

Those trials have more content than the fights do. Which is a big change.

>>14038387

Yes I think we all play pokemon to get to experience boring and repetitive minigames

I especially liked the one where you have to take pictures at 10fps

>>14038398

Pokemon is just dead at this point. It's clear that they're bleeding users and are trying to make a Level 5 RPG instead. Problem is Level 5 RPGs are action based not menu based combat.

Ultramoon does have a hack where you can skip all the dialog but I couldn't get it to work myself.

>>14037384

>looks like gen 7 on the 3DS will be the last great game we have.

gen 2 was the last good gen tbh

This is one of the most stupid shitposts i've ever seen in my entire life, and a thread died for it

>Open world Pokemongame

>Comes out on PC

>YFW it's as good as Skyrim when it comes to modding, so now that one picture of Kevin on Skyrim will now apply

How fucking gay are your pokemon orgies going to be? Be honest.

>Inb4 Pokemon all have slider features with give them variations on apperance so you have pokemon who look different based on tempermant and nature like that one massive picture of all those flavours of gardevoir

How about a PMD game with an original plot instead?

>tfw gen 8 will be "open world Skyrim Pokemon running on the 'Unreal engine'"

That would be great. But no. We'll be getting a slightly more polished 3DS game.

>>14037384

Pokemon died with Gen VI. That's when it all went to shit. Not to mention those fucking shitty mega evos.

>>14038598

>No regional variations that alter colours, patterns and frequency of nature's

>No sliding scale of shiny that goes from subtle, common changes to SUPER RARE mutant colours

>No natures, regions, shiny status impacting moves available and stat arrangements

<Instead we made Vulpix ice type

>>14037384

id kill for a witcher 3 like pokemon game tbh

It doesn't even have to be full open world. I just want to play a proper fully 3D console Pokemon game, finally. It doesn't have to be Breath of the Wild, but at least let us have Ocarina of Time. We could have had this 20 years ago if Gamefreak weren't faggots.

>>14038582

Genwun was good. Gen 2 was great. Gen 3 was good. All others were shit.

>>14037384

You are a fucking idiot and you're only mentioning BotW and Skyrim because you think it's a popular opinion those are bad examples of open world games, not because you actually tried any of them. (Skyrim is, but that's besides the point)

You just want people to agree with your shitty opinion and find confort in knowing you're not alone.

Get fucked, you've been playing Final Fantasy: Monster Party every single game. Your party just switches around a lot more and one of the characters, your trainer, doesn't take part in the fights.

Otherwise it's the exact same game except that, sadly for you, even Final Fantasy saw some evolution.

Go play Final Fantasy 2-3 for the Gameboy and see what I'm talking about. Special Attacks or Spells for abilities, a default attack if you can't use the previous ones, spend the turn using an item or run away. Exact same combat.

Except even then team composition mattered more than pogeyman where with the exception of Baton Pass and similar shitty mechanics, having more poogeymans only helps with type matching and if the first one keels over.

You know what an "open world pokemon" game would look like?

You'd control your trainer and walk around the world. You'd be able to press 1-6 to throw a pokeball and have your mon follow you around or attack other pokemons if you direct him to or to defend you.

Pokemon battles would occur with no transition screen, you just toss your mon and the other guy does the same.

Your trainer could be attacked by wild pokemons too, your mons would need to defend you.

You would be able to bring rations and take pokemons to places they like the most.

Using abilities like Surf and Cut would have you take out your mon and see it do so in front of you, Fly would be the standard fast travel we already have.

You'd have an action oriented game where your mon would do the fighting and you'd shout commands from the side line or toss items at it, but you'd be free to move around as well.

There's at least one game that already done something similar and it was fucking amazing.

Just because you want your shitty turn-based gameplay, your massively crappy EP growth for raising mons and your incredibly predictable and boring world for singleplayer because what matters the most to you is the multiplayer in a game that was never to be taken that seriously for multiplayer, that doesn't mean you don't have massive shit taste.

You wanna know who's killing the pokemon franchise? You are.

>>14038736

see, you mean this as a shitpost but I'd say this is the biggest thing Japanese developers have trouble with. They are enamored by the idea of open world games but they don't know how to make them alive. Give Todd Howard all the shit you want, but Skyrim and Fallout 3-4 felt "alive" in the sense that things would happen in the world and there were stories to be stumbled upon. In most open world game from japan they'll just throw a few outposts into a large field with respawning enemies and sprinkle some quests here in there in static places.

>>14038788

what game did it?

>>14038788

The Xenoblade style of combat would probably work pretty well for Pokemon. I always feel weird watching the character I'm supposed to be controlling attack by himself, but re-contextualise that to me being a person off to the side shouting instructions, and it makes a lot more sense.

>>14038823

The first Digimon World game.

Big ass open world for you to walk around, battles are up to your digimon but you can train Brains to give him better commands and your stats matter massively on how he fights.

Raising a Digimon there was also a lot better. You had to balance fights with gym training and you could pick what stats to raise as well, plus lots of items, diet with certain food, Happiness and Discipline, and even going to Biomes he hates.

It made your Digimon an actual thing you cared for and raised with care, not some merc grunt you put on the killing fields to rack up XP against the higher HP fags you can find for easy EP and call it a day once the RNG distributes your stat points, unlocking techniques and evolutions in a very linear fashion.

And that's just the raising.

>>14038807

Japanese don't seem to play an "open world" game for the same reason the western audience does, they don't much care about what the world does or even much of the story.

It's a stage for their characters where things happen in a controlled manner to grow them both in statistics and story, but it's always about the character and that's it.

I actually don't agree much with you on Fallout and only partially on Skyrim, those games also suffer from the same problem.

They spend a lot of time telling you that there's all these things that are happening right now but at the end of the day, nothing happens without you doing anything.

Skyrim's civil war never sees forts or cities changing ownership unless you take part in the battle, and Fallout 3-4 story doesn't move an inch unless you do something yourself.

Those games are far closer to JRPGs in that regard, IMO.

>>14038849

Yeah, also came to mind although it would be the reverse where you'd play the Blade role, powering up your Pokemon by just being near it while he does most of the fighting.

Shit, come to think of it, Xenoblade has 4 attacks for each button, not unlike Pokemon. You could have Xenoblade retextured for poogeymans and it would already be a better game, there's even all the elements for blades too!

>>14038889

Mate you're a fucking faggot and I say that as a Digimon fan.

Digimon world 1 is awful. It's just fucking awful. It's 90~% grinding at the gym and then 10% exploring. Unless you're using a guide you're pretty much fucked from beginning to end.

The formula is much improved in the later games on PSP and PS4 like New order. But even so it's very poorly handled. It doesn't encourage exploration as much as it punishes exploration of the mechanics. If you spent too long training you won't have the food you need to avoid care mistakes. If you explore in the wrong area you get fucked for it, which counts as a care mistake and you may lose your digimon and have to start the process again.

I love Digimon. I love the look of the digital world but Digimon world 1 is not a good game. Not by a long shot is it a good game. It takes all the problems games like Myst have and then stacks a grindfest on top.

Digimon's strength is it's evolution system. Having the same digimon switching forms to gain new moves and beat new challenges is what makes Digimon games good. The 3rd world game and the Digimon Story (DS) ones handle this much better. They're standard JRPGs but even when grinding the grinding feels better than having to stop for a shit every 5 goes. Tamagotchis get annoying IRL, they're even worse when they're getting in the way of exploring on a limited time basis.

>>14038932

>It's 90~% grinding at the gym

Enjoy your Numemons, faggot. The stat requirements aren't that high compared to the amount of battles you need for most mons, you don't get any money from the gym either, you're just burning your mons life there.

You can actually train faster with fights since they only take 20mins instead of a full hour, do the math.

The result of the gym also depends on your tamer level and you can boost it by visiting Beetle land, both requiring you to explore.

And since the gym should only be used for training a specific stat above all others, you're better off heading to the specific gyms that train a stat far more for the same hour, even more exploring.

>If you explore in the wrong area you get fucked for it, which counts as a care mistake and you may lose your digimon and have to start the process again.

Good thing you get plenty of warning when doing so and there are plenty of areas to visit otherwise then!

Even better that care mistakes are a bonus condition and not a requirement.

Sounds a lot like you spent your Rookies 3 days in the gym and you were saddled with literal shitmons, which made you really sour.

Also happened to me until I stopped being a faggot that wanted to travel the world with Champions only for an easy experience and started fighting to train instead. Game becomes a lot better that way.

Pokemon was a joke that got taken too far anyway, much like all Nip game series. Good riddance.

People have wanted an open world Pokemon game for ages

>>14038965

You clearly read a guide to get that knowledge. A game fails when it requires a guide just to leave the starting area.

>>14038932

I hope nobody takes this retard seriously. Digimon World 1 was fucking amazing.

t. someone who beat it last year

>tfw no open world pokemon game where you can fuck all the pokemon you capture, or just rape small pokemon in the wild and leave them there to rest after they faint from exhaustion

>>14037384

That sounds good though

POKEMON IS ALREADY OPEN WORLD YOU DUMB FUCKS. IT’S JUST LINEAR AS SHIT

>>14039019

No, I fucking didn't.

I looked at the clock you see in game and saw that training took a full hour for each session.

Then I looked at it after a battle and saw it only took 1/3 of an hour.

Then I applied basic math, multiplied the stats I gained from that battle by 3 and concluded you actually gained far more in one hour by fighting, you just had less control what stat you were training.

I also went to visit the extra gym locations and it's not that hard to notice that Leomon's training area raises your OFF and SPD far more than anything the gym gives you.

There's also a few instances in the game where your tamer level goes up just by exploring and noticing you're gaining extra stats afterwards is simple enough.

Same goes for the veggies that boost your training and the manual.

You'd need a guide for the specific details for most guys, especially for the ones that actually require no fights as a bonus condition, but I managed to finish the game when I was a kid with no guide and even got a Phoenixmon with no help.

>>14039022

I'm thinking of replaying it too, now that I have read a few guides on how to get some mons.

Shit was incredibly mistyfying for some stuff when I was younger, but for the most part it made sense like getting any winged mon by raising SPD or the tougher dynolike buggers by raising deffense.

>>14039054

I live in the PAL region. It's literally impossible to finish the game here.

>>14039074

Changing the goalposts, now you're complaining about bugs instead of the mechanics.

>>14039098

My goal posts didn't change. I've stated the game is shit and your have nostalgia for it. I'm making a different statement that the game in PAL regions is impossible.

I'd recommend giving the PSP game a go. You might learn how shit the original is.

>>14039110

You stated the game was shit because of it's mechanics and I promptly explained why it's your fault for staying 3 days in the gym, complaining that you're not doing any exploring and you only get shitmons afterwards.

You're now talking about a bug that only affects a version of the game (I also live in the PAL region and I finished it, faggot) because that's the best "argument" you can muster.

There's no need for nostalgia just to accept that non-broken versions of the game are not only great but far better than anything pokemon ever put out.

>>14039129

If you think Digimon world 1 is anything but a snorefest and compares to Pokemon Gen 1-3 you're having a fucking laugh.

>>14039192

they have been rehashed really hard. They should have branched out a long time ago and ditched the hyper autistic Smogon crowd. There's a fucking hierarchy of freaks surrounding this game, they SHOULD vary it up.

>>14039216

Pokemon has a bunch of experimental spin off games. It works like FF does. The main timeline is for autistic retards while the side stuff explores new ideas with brand recognition keeping the experiments profitable..ish

Your source for this, OP? Because an interview with Game Freak themselves says otherwise. They think that concept is horrible.

>>14039234

Game Freak have said they don't plan features. They just do what they want at the time. Then drop what they don't want to work on. That's why we lose so many good things and get random bullshit like a pokedex that pesters you the entire game.

>>14039185

Are you fucking serious? Of all the Pokemon games you could use to compare it, you go for the first 3?

I played them, you moron, I know what they are like.

You go on a bit U around the world in a very strictly linear fashion with the way limited by special moves granted by Gym leaders as you go along. The level of wild pokemons and trainers goes up as you travel around because "muh rpg experience" but it's not like it matters since you only reach an area once you're strong enough to beat the local gym leader anyway.

Exploration in Gen 1-3 is purely "take this fork in the road for a dead end with a potion" or "take this detor to grab a berry from this tree" or "go through these grasses to avoid that trainer".

That's fucking it, there's no real "exploring" at all in there.

Now compare that shit with Digimon World 1, with an island full of different biomes, a day\night cycle that affects the spawns of digimon, having meet some digimon first like Whamon to travel to new areas and raising your mon being done through combat where you do more than just spam one-hit-kill move until you have enough XP to beat the local gym leader.

Mister, even the fucking pokemon card game is far more interesting than Gen 1-3 in terms of gameplay.

The only thing that saves those games is the pokemon themselves which are still pretty good, but otherwise you're better off playing Final Fantasy 1-3 for a far better but still similar experience.

>>14037384

>wow a big dead world to explore like zelda botw and skyrim

Look at the 4chan refugee revealing unintentionally he thinks Breath of the Wild is like Skyrim with zeldos.

Pal you're ban has probably expired by now, just go back ok?

>>14039234

I don't know if I'd count it as "open world" though.

You're limited where you can go from the start after all and the progression of stuff you unlock that lets you visit newer areas is fairly linear after all.

I mean, you have Metroidvania games that usually gate your progress by a certain upgrade, but at the same time they also require some backtracking and you'll end up visiting previous areas with your newer powers.

There's also Morrowind, Oscuro Overhaul or New Vegas where you can actually go anywhere you want from the start, but the further you go from civilization, the harder the chalenge gets.

>>14038024

you're shit

source: my ass

Honeslty instead of adding more new regions they should work on one that so far includes all previous regions, all previous pokemon/gym leaders, and all previous mechanics (pokemon contests/blocks, day/night shit from gen 2)

Anyone know a good rom hack that stitches together regions? So far I'm playing emerald 368 and it's pretty good

>>14037384

Fuck off retard. Pokemon was always the bottom of the barrel of jarpigs.

>>14039404

I'd cite it

>>14037384

It's been dead since the start. The fanboyism for the games run so deep it's impossible for them to understand that the games have had little in the way of progress since early gens.

>>14039295

>Take your stupid hyperbole shit back to cuckchan

He's right though. Switch is incredibly cheap as far as hardware goes. And the games are garbage as well.

digimon was always better tbh

>>14040066

i find the digimon monster designs to be worse, overall. there's some that i like, though, like MarineDevimon and CannonBeemon

>>14040062

Not unless your definition of open world is "the player can backtrack and occasionally visit an optional area (or some areas in different order)". And even then that mostly applies to the older games, since the new ones give you very little capability to explore the world, instead forcing you to strictly follow the story while usually letting you go back to old areas.

>>14040079

>i find the digimon monster designs to be worse

Seriously nig? Pokemon's literally just inanimate objects with a different color pallet and a pair of eyes. If your lucky they'll only use said objects as accessories or protrusions poking out of them.

>>14040091

>pokemon's literally just inanimate objects with a different color pallet and a pair of eyes.

i don't have a problem with that, especially because japanese have the concept of tsukumogami. they the admittedly could have been more creative with the voltorb design.

>>14037518

>Using a flying-type team (with 3 Dragonite that are Dragon/Flying) that can know Hyper Beam/Giga Impact.

>Starting with three Dratini, One with Ember, one with PowderSnow, and one with Thundershock.

>>14040109

>i don't have a problem with that

Then you have shit taste I guess? If all it takes to wow you is a lily-pad being used as a hat or simple red and white orbs with eyes then I'm willing to bet you're easily impressed by shiny things.

>>14040139

Umbrella pokemon when?

>>14040139

>what's wrong with taking an inanimate object and putting eyes on them instead of devoting time to actual monster design and creativity

Really nig?

>These could all have interesting movesets and typings.

This goes back to what I said about the fanboyism being to deep to change anything. You're more concerned about how a form of a pokemon can affect stale mechanics rather than wanting something engaging and new.

>>14038117

>mfw I can adapt and am not tech illiterate so Daggerfall is effortlessly intuitive to play

If you had any sense you'd suck a shotgun barrel until it came on your face.

>>14040472

>Describe your desires which aren’t being fulfilled, then.

Literally what I just stated. Uniquely made designs with effort.

>Yes, I’m more concerned about SOMETHING ENGAGING AND NEW

You literally just stated old mechanics that fit the function of a form. I didn't misread anything.

>>14037399

Pokemon is probably the only franchise that would benefit from the giant open world Skyrim meme design.

>>14040475

>a pokemon based on the Sydney Opera House

We're reaching levels of silly that shouldn't be possible. Next I want to see Woofrance, a dog with a beret, evolve into Chieiffel, a bigger dog shaped like the tower.

>>14040528

That Xatu 'Evo' would look good as a Mega but not as an Evolution. If it was like 3 Xatu's ontop of eachother ala a totem pole then ye I'd be down but Megas seem to be base pokemon + extra shit tacted onto them

>>14040521

The panda is good, too good for pokemon.

>>14040504

>So you can’t actually articulate any ideas for something that hasn’t already been done.

More like they can't articulate to begin with. As far as designs go they're creatively bankrupt. I could sincerely imagine several dozen unique designs that would trump your images as far as contour, color and form go that would also play into game mechanics. our entire argument is that there's no objectively when it comes to design which simply isn't true.

>Oh gee, we have six stats and 17 types

Goes back to what I originally said. You're more focused on types and states than actually making a new and original mechanic. This is why I'm stating Pokemons been creatively bankrupt since early gens. And the designs on early gens weren't that great to begin with.

>>14040504

>>14040544

I really like that Ultra Blissey, Claydol, and Crawdaunt

>>14040582

>So how about you describe them.

First, don't create something from an inanimate object. That's what younger people do because they haven't formed the necessary time and practice that you gain over time. Second. Learn anatomy and form your own style after several years of criticism and practice.

Shit man what do you want? A book on practical animation characters that also have unique styles? I'm stating their styles aren't original and are uninspired and you've done less to contradict this than I have to support it.

>What. Like MEGAS? Fuck that shit. Give examples of your new mechanics.

Anything that isn't the fucking same shit we've been getting for the past few decades now? Why don't you defend that lack of originality before you claim that I have none.

Pokemon needs to make a game like pic related where you control the Pokemon in action combat.

>>14040615

>YOU TO DESCRIBE THE KIND OF THINGS YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE WHICH HAVE NOT YET BEEN DONE

I did retard. Simple stating that they shouldn't be inanimate objects IS a description. If you're so fucking mad that I can't specificaly draw out inspired artwork look at better examples such as the armor from EYE or some of the monster races from other well known games. I shouldn't have to spoon feed you on what is and isn't well portrayed art.

>You were explicitly asked to provide descriptions (because I’m fully aware not everyone can draw) of the kinds of shapes and designs you’d want to see. How is this confusing to you?

How about this then. Start from life. Take real animal, real anotomy and grow from there. Not just take a horse and put rocks on it. Instead use more biological materials that youv'e seen from more unusual things from nature that actually feel alien yet familiar. Or better yet look up older art work and use that as the building blocks for such a thing.

>So you can’t even think of a single goddamn thing. Got it.

Can you? All the images your posting look fairly uninspired and boring. I've seen better creations on Deviant art. I don't know what you specifically want other than what I've explicitly described.

>Why don’t you stop putting words in others’ mouths and defend your own positions first.

You havn't even made a position for me to break apart. My position is that they're inanimate objects with eyes. And looking at the pics you're posting that IS what they are by an objective level.

>>14040703

>So what do you want?

I explicitly stated what I wanted dipshit. Variety, and inspired art styles. I even provided an example from other games.

>Holy fuck, finally. How the fuck was that so hard for you to do.

Was using your brain for 2 seconds to remember better examples of design that hard for you to do? You havn't even contradicted what even said ABOUT EYE. So I guess I made a correct statement then? Pokemon is creatively bankrupt and there are games that have better designs? Because you've offered no statement to contradict it from the start.

>I DUNNO; something different, faggot!

So I take it you don't bitch when COD can't produce anything original anymore either? Do you really want me to write up a design doc for your ass so you can provide no counterpoints as to why they shouldn't change their mechanics?

>>14040882

>I can’t remember your memories.

So your only background for character/creature designs derive from Pokemon and that's it? Quit playing dumb.

>Probably because there’s nothing to contradict.

They use inspired designs that aren't derived from house hold materials? Your the one who wanted examples. If you're doing nothing with them then I've objectively made more of a point than you have.

>They’re certainly pretty stagnant.

Then why bitch when I said this from the start?

>Sure. That wasn’t in question.

It certainly was when I said there were better designs in general. You're the one who wanted examples remember?

>You don’t even comprehend the argument.

Other way around. My statement from the start has been that their look boring and unoriginal. You asked what was wrong with this and went on to state why it worked for mechanics when it really didn't.

>WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE UPFRONT.

So then you DO think their designs are original? Make up your mind. The evidence was deconstructing their designs and offering insight on what would make them better. The word your looking for is example. Which isn't needed if I've already played the framework. God forbid I think people here might have some background in playing video games to adapt that framework towards a decent example.

>It would’ve been nice if you’d actually articulated your fucking point from the beginning.

I specifically said their designs were bad. How could I have been more thorough? Do I have to spell everything out here?

>>14040901

Nigger you are fucking retarded. He asks for examples and you give him vague as fuck WELL SOMETHING NOT JUST A HORSE WITH ROCKS, SOMETHING FROM SOME OTHER UNIVERSE/SERIES. Give some fucking specific examples. SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.

The other guy isn't arguing that pokemon isn't unoriginal/unchanged shit. HE DOESN'T WANT NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, HE AIN'T ARGUING IT'S not STALE SHIT. He wants some examples of better shit to compare it to. He's not gonna fucking compare it to the entire lore of some other game, give him a few (three sounds good) examples of better design. You state what you do not want, but you do not OFFER BETTER EXAMPLES. We don't need a whole fucking scrapbooks, but give us something to compare it to.

TLDR He' ain't fighting you on the point that it's unoriginal shit, just show him some better shit. He wants to see better shit, SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, and if you can't/won't show it to him, stop replying.

>>14039030

we were born too early anon

>a game that you have to walk around catching monsters all over the world

>can't go out of paths

>gets open world

<shit game, it's dead, fuck this

If it's done right is the best thing you can ask for a Pokémon game….

>>14037391

Its been almost 20 years.

No game as fully detailed as Morrowind.

Why?

>>14037384

>last great game we have

Pokemon has never been all that great, because the lazy fucks never did anything with it for the most part. It has been the same shit since the first games, except slightly more refined sometimes, and at this point not even that. The only good thing about the recent generations is that they are slowly making annoying RNG bullshit like IVs and EVs easier to change. But even that sucks, because it's cowardly. Just get rid of the damn things, it's a waste of time. I don't like to cheat, so I just ended up ignoring this entirely, but most people just shit and get the best stuff anyway, as they should, because you would have to be crazy to waste half of your life hatching eggs in a video game.

It took me a long time, but I dropped the series. I like autistically collecting things, and that's what I liked about the series, but it got old after so goddamn long, especially considering the inconvenience of getting the event legendaries, and the fact that they keep making new forms for everything instead of creating new shit. I just didn't want to do it anymore. Way too repetitive. Ran out of autisms to give, it just took a while because of how many I had.

I will continue to fap to the pokegirls and ignore the games.

>>14041565

1: Niggers and women now thrust into positions previously held by whites and asians. Lacking the coding ability and passion, an inferior product is inevitable.

2: Increasing graphical constraints means more time per asset and fewer assets per level. That's why they had to instance everything starting with Oblivion. Instancing cities was the worst decision they ever made.

3: Schlubs buy dogshit no matter how much care is put into it so why kill yourself over a game when the proles will buy whatever dogshit you put out as long as you correctly market it to the 9gag crowd?

Honestly, I still remember being awestruck when I found this giant daedric shrine in the back of a cave. Being the explorer, I use levitation and climbed all over the area and my mouth dropped when I found a daedric god helmet hidden up at the top of the cavern where I was dicking around. Someone had anticipated my dicking around and put that there. 10/10 gaming experience moment.

Funny thing is, I lost my package to Caius Cosades and thus never did the main quest, but still had so much fun because I did whatever the fuck I want.

>>14041611

>Fapping to pokegirls

>When they're all shit except for Misty

Why

Guys, a thot for non-linearity. What if game is semi-open world where you can do a section of the map in any order, but you need the things from all the towns before advancing to the next. Also you can explore proceedurally generated "nests" where there's a chance to meet rare pokes and find hold items. Also all Pokémon encounters you can see on the map now and avoid them if you can. Though random encounters will happen uf Pokémon spawn and chase you a few meters away.

>>14038117

even then daggerfall was an amazingly incomplete game, the amount of things that they cut out just show how much the devs rushed it and how much patience open world games need to not be shit. on top of that daggerfall isnt even a videogame, its realism for the sake of realism and "muh immersion" and simulation of what a fantasy world could be like. either way i think the perfect open world game would be a mix of morrowind and daggerfall.

The truth is that there are only 151 pokemon and that Ash is in coma.

>>14043077

is there a sauce on that?

>>14043128

Artist is stoic5, that image is not a crop though

>>14043143

That's what I figured, thanks all the same.

>>14043096

They really need to compile a list of well received features to re-introduce in future titles.

Nostalgia time

honestly, the pokemon games have always been a scam. people love it for the nostalgia. if we can get a pokemon game with a meaningful quest to catch them all i would be down to buy that.

Like there would be the main quest of getting the gym badges in each region. Each region would be closed off from one another until you meet a certain power check. Then there would be independent side quests to get certain pokemon or to obtain legendaries (although they would be relatively hidden) that had meaningful stories. but the important bit is that you *can* catch em all. otherwise the charm of the game dies about 5 hours in.

>>14043526

>but the important bit is that you *can* catch em all. otherwise the charm of the game dies about 5 hours in.

'Collecting them all' is only a thing that works in non-nigger homogenous societies like Japan since it's easier to be more social.

>>14038387

Gen 3 and Gen 6 were both big on 'gym puzzles'.

>Dewford maze

>Mauville switch puzzle

>Lavaridge teleport puzzle

>Petalburg let you choose your fights

>Fortree airport gate puzzle

>Mossdeep maze

>Sootopolis ice puzzle

>Nacrene quiz

>Castelia maze

>B2W2 Driftveil maze

>Icirrus ice puzzle

>Opelucid switch puzzle

>B2W2 Humilau maze

Sure, they're smaller, but there was also other content and theme-work that went into each one that was merely condensed for the trials.

Why couldn't we have gotten a game where you're able to join the villains?

>>14043710

>Why couldn't we have gotten a game where you're able to join the villains?

Man, i really wanted to activate the superweapon in Y, i was somehow disappointed when the game predictably didn't let that happen.

>>14037979

theyre both pretty bad anon

>>14043601

which is a bad thing. making multiplayer cooperation a part of singleplayer experiences is a shut design philosophy. let me play by myself dammit and not go talk to other people like an autist you probably are.

>>14043715

I guess the point is, Pokemon is shit and only autists like it.

>>14037921

>>14037391

>Go play daggerfall if you want good open world

Oh wew, look its a child trying to act older, who never played daggerfall but likes to bring it up to seem older and mature.

Daggerfall is the PINNACLE, of empty over world.

>>14037437

Oh look another fucking child who wants to whine and doesn't use any fucking brains.

>you're the only person in it

That's how Pokemon has always felt you fucktard

>npcs are few and far between and their dialogue is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the story

Oh yes, I remember the incredible dialogue of Pokemon, just rivitting dialogue

I LIKE SHORTS THEY ARE COMFY THE WEAR

>the story doesn't matter and is basically non existant

Oh compared to the incredible story of pokemon? The same formulaic one they've been using for years.

You really are retarded aren't you.

>>14042408

And I assume there are only 15 types as well!

And also! There are only 3 GHOST moves, being LICK, NIGHT SHADE, and CONFUSE RAY!

But! There is only 1 DRAGON move, being DRAGON RAGE, a set damage move!

And let's not forget that using LICK, the only GHOST move that isn't a set damage move or a status move, on a psychic-type will do nothing and say "It doesn't affect enemy (Insert psychic-type) here!)!"!

But wait! There's more! GUST, KARATE CHOP, SAND-ATTACK and BITE are all still NORMAL moves, and WING ATTACK still has the same BASE POWER as its sister FLYING move PECK, BASE POWER being 35!

>>14044184

>Daggerfall

>Muh empty world

You never played it faggot, you can do and own basically anything. While joining one of hundreds of different organisations, cults, secret societies, religions etc, with each having different quests and storypaths for you.

Compare that to Morrowind, the original streamlining of RPG's.

>>14044547

>You never played it faggot, you can do and own basically anything. While joining one of hundreds of different organisations, cults, secret societies, religions etc, with each having different quests and storypaths for you.

Which has nothing to do with the overworld being fucking empty of anything for miles, with a random dungeon pre-genned thrown in.

>>14044661

and who doesnt love copy pasta everything? wowee i can do the same thing over and over again! so much fun!

>>14043825

>" w-w-wanna trade pokymens???"

>not autistic

oofy

>>14044848

being a hermit is more autistic than speaking to another person who shares the same interests and hobbies as you.

i'd say the latter is complete opposite of autism.

so the last franchise from the past also died

farewell my beloved pokemon, it was fun while it lasted

t. trainer and player since 1998

instead of destroying traditions they could just give us what we wanted most: a remake of Red/Blue/Yellow with modern day graphics similar to collosseum on a nintendo stationary console.

>>14045002

>Apricorn pokeballs

Don't need this, they were replaced by all the different balls that do different things

>Phone system so you can call or be called

Really annoying

Everything else, yeah

>>14044661

>Empty

>Pre-genned dungeons

There's both created and generated stuff in the game, it's fucking huge.

>>14044855

>implying those are the only two options

interestjng to see how the autist inly has video games to talk about :^)

>>14044890

>instead of destroying traditions they could just give us what we wanted most: a remake of Red/Blue/Yellow with modern day graphics similar to collosseum on a nintendo stationary console.

This is the real cancer killing Pokemon.

>>14045212

>>14045209

Then what's the point of adding it in. It's not going to be varied enough to stay interesting and by the time you're at the end of the game nobody will want to pick it up.

I don't know if you remember how fucking retarded it was in G/S, but there was no reason to actually go fight the trainers that called you since they were so low level, and everything else they told you was fucking stupid.

>So there's little reason to not have them.

The process of creating them was kind of annoying, might as well just make new balls.

And as if there's ever been any reason to not just use poke/mega/ultra balls. If you really want to make 25 different balls all useful then you need to do some big balancing to the game.

Not only to the money system so that you actually have to choose how to spend your money right, but also maybe having restrictions on the types of balls you can use in certain areas of the world.

Just adding more shit in isn't going to fix the game.

>>14038220

that is fucking gay as shit nigga

>>14044184

>I have ADHD: the post

>>14037384

The gamecube generic RPG worked well enough and the shit they have been putting out for over a decade got repetitive years ago. UE4 is actually alright for the most part and the games have always been sort of open world.

What are you whinning about?

>>14037384

Isnt pokemon already open world?

>>14045212

>she gets turned into a shiny

>>14037481

>Gen IV

Platinum was needed to make Diamond and Pearl, but not fucking shit just with good music and minigames and HGSS didn't fix any of the shit wrong with Gen II, it just put it on DS with more Pokemon and Legendaries, rematchable Gym Leaders and an actual awesome addition of minigames worth hours of playtime like Pokeathalon.

>>14037521

>>14037526

Stop trying to make me fap.

>>14041664

Fuck off and kill yourself.

I think you're forgetting what fucking year this is.

>Do you really want to battle? [Yes] [No]

>>14038137

>>14046321

>>14046321

That isn't an option 99% of the time, so far I only saw it with a single fucking pokemon breeder in Y.

>>14046338

It's will be standard for all random encounters within the next few gens.

>>14046460

>That'd be great and possible if the XY team weren't the ones working on the console game.

Colosseum and Gale of Darkness were third party anyhow, outsourced to Genius Sonority rather than using standard GameFreak. I will say though that if they do opt to revisit Orre, they'd better bring back/keep Tawada for the music.

>>14046576

>Colosseum and Gale of Darkness were third party anyhow, outsourced to Genius Sonority

Yes, and then they've been making nothing but shovelware ever since

Why do you think that is

GF doesn't like people outperforming them, they're not going to let someone else make the next main entry in the series, especially not one that's this critical

>>14046624

I apologize if I don't find shitty puzzle spinoffs, PBR, and the denpa men to be serious releases

>>14046643

blame the pokemon company and the director of game freak/pokemon Junichi Masuda.

that fucker created a shitty inter-dimensional plot line on ultra, thus creating a "remake" that everybody wants, chug-in a few mini-games and then you get a real shitheap

>>14046780

It kind of surprises me the way some of these Japanese branches don't take the western ones doing better as a sign to step up their game, and instead resort to a "fuck your shit" state. More of a series example than a whole company one, but with .hack//G.U., the US version of Vol 1 had additional line work which the Japanese fanbase got pissy about, and instead of taking the opportunity to improve things for their local audience, the Bamco's JP branch apparently restricted the US one from doing more voicing than the Japanese originals saw as the way to "balance" the difference. Supposedly it's even been applied to Last Recode's Vol.1 audio as well.

>>14046814

sega's issue was both ways, SoA and SoJ were shitting on each other left and right and it ultimately the management of both companies are to blame.

>>14045994

>she

Sure.

POKEMON HAS ALWAYS BEEN OPEN WORLD YOU FUCKING ATTENTION WHORING FAGGOT.

STOP TRYING TO FIT IN SO HARD.

Fuck you, OP. I want all the things you listed. Big empty open world is easy to fix in a pokemon game if you fill it with trainers to battle you on sight. Bonus points if you can challenge them for rematches unlike in previous games

>>14046018

It's pointless and will not be used.

Adding pointless shit to a game doesn't make it better, it makes it worse

>>14047739

>tfw no Gardevoir gf

>>14047739

>not Tittyvoir

>>14048981

>I will go fight trainers that have pokemon 80 levels lower than mine

>I'll enjoy talking to these cunts about [insert random pokemon] they caught yesterday

Alright faggot

Christ there's not even a reason to mechanically have it. The function of the phone to rematch trainers was perfected in Fire Red with the thing you can use to rematch ANY trainers, and that's usable whenever you want it.

>inb4 having random lines of text showed to me would make the game much better

>>14049436

It also evolves into Gardevoir upon level up, you closet homosexual. You know what they say, not all Muslims (male Kirlia) are terrorists (Gallade), but all terrorists (Gallade) are Muslims (male Kirlia).

>Gamefreak might finally move Pokemon from a shitty 80s era turn based rpg into something better

>Autists crawl out of the woodwork screaming "no muh 30 hour grind ev training will be worthless"

They might actually do something different than "8 badges, Elite Four, postgame". I've even talked to people about this and they consider the campaign of the game just a 10 hour tutorial to playing competitive. Which is where the real game is. The actual game aspect of Pokemon is irrelevant to most people who play it now. It's just something they ignore and hope finishes quickly.

>>14037384

>looks like gen 7 on the 3DS will be the last great game we have.

None of the 3DS games were good let alone great. Pokemon died on the DS, there was no reason to play any game beyond gen 5 outside of romhacks

>>14049482

i have to agree.

x/y was mediocre and s/m was a chore to get through with the constant unskippable tutorial cutscenes that persisted all the way to the end of the game

>>14044847

>it's another nobody takes my obvious 4chongo bait post

>>14049532

I am replying to the topic, and I'm not inventing shit.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Vs._Seeker

This is the evolution of the trash phone calls.

The conversations you had with the 7 people that could call you were trash.

You've got no idea how to make a game good.

>>14049481

>playing competitive

>people

>>14037486

>all first party Nintendo games use in-house engines because Nintendo likes to optimize them for every game's specific needs

<Game Freak is technically a second party

<the Pokémon games have always suffered from poor optimization one way or another

<Gen I had a 5 year development cycle and the initial releases up until Blue were a fragile mess

<Gen II was so bloated they had to bring in Iwata to unfuck their shit

<Gen III… i've never heard anything bad about Gen III, optimization-wise

<Gen IV and V play at 30 fps

<Gen VI and VII continue this trend but now also get frame drops

<can't even use the 3D gimmick outside of battle and it struggles to handle even that

>>14037384

Cringe. There hasn't been a single good Pokemon game on the 3DS.

>>14040454

Jynx is a nigger.

NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERV

>>14051074

Gas 'em.

>>14049436

>yid plus yid equals yid

I see no problem here.

>>14051279

>Copy of the previous bad games with some shit tacked on

>good

>>14051244

No, now post lewds.

I like open world games

>>14038244

>Change is inherently good!

Are you 12? Did you only start playing videogames this year?

>>14051360

Dude, Pokémon is basically Japanese CoD. It's a stagnant and repetitive piece of shit.

>>14051365

Yes, but that doesn't mean any and all change is positive for the series.

When the devs thought DMC was stagnant we got DmC.

>>14039273

its still a bad game tho. tell me what was good about him?

>>14051380

>tell me what was good about him?

Not very much, I'm guessing. He's a halfchan refugee according to >>14039273

>>14039273

>revealing unintentionally he thinks Breath of the Wild is like Skyrim with zeldos.

except everyone thinks that, its a true meme.

if you want to play Skyrim with a Zelda outfit get BOTW

>>14051398

It's a meme because skyrim is the only open world game normalfags have played so it's the only frame of reference they have for the concept of a big open world game you fucking casual

>>14051419

yep, except the mods are dlc you pay for

>>14051406

>its common because skyrim is popular

sure, and that doesn't negate the fact that its just skyrim in zelda clothes, an open dead world to "explore"

>>14051427

>It's just like skyrim because skyrim is bad in this one specific way and this game is also bad in that same specific way therefore it's a clone

You might as well just refer to it as the dark souls of open world games for as much information as that retarded opinion conveys

>>14051430

>skyrim is bad in this one specific way

Skyrim isn't just bad in "this one specific way", it's bad because it bases its entire game and world design around this central point being a huge open world, but then that's done poorly. And since that is so integral to the rest of the game it influences the entire rest of the game from itself outwards due to informing how they have to design other shit to compensate.

Why is there Fast Travel in Skyrim? Because the world is not cohesive and exploration is a chore, not enjoyment.

Why are there quest markers? Because the world is not cohesive and attempts to give direction (as was done in Morrowind, much better world design there) would fail due to a lack of landmarks and information given to the player to act on such directions.

Why is combat so flashy but not actually satisfying? Because you need to be distracted from the monotony of exploration in the boring world they've created.

Why are the colours so bland? Because Bethesda is shit.

BoTW has similar problems, all stemming from world design. It's why shrines are short and easy, it's why most challenge in the game is tedious rather than engaging, all of it stems from the huge open world with nothing in it and the devs trying to distract you from that fact.

>>14051454

>And sun/moon are still great games.

What the fuck? Come on now bud, they had diddly dick-all postgame content. I lost hope in GameFreak ever since "we didn't do the Battle Frontier because of mobile games".

>>14051461

>hurrr monster hunter is repetitive you just keep farming monsters

>hurrr fps are repetitive you just keep shooting ppl in the head

>hurrr mario is repetitive you're always just jumping on platforms

get a new hobby, video games aren't for u

>>14051471

>What the fuck? Come on now bud, they had diddly dick-all postgame content.

Ultra sun/moon fix that, good post-game content, im still doing it and battling

stay mad

>>14051478

>Ultra sun/moon fix that

Not really bud. Still fuck all postgame

>>14051474

Nintendofags are truly the bane upon this world. I hope the Diamond Dogs get you, faggot.

>>14051482

>still fuck all postgame

objectively false

>>14051490

Then list some of the postgame content. You will fail to list anything substantial like the Battle

Frontier.

>>14051498

>>14051498

>tfw May will never be my gf.

>>14051506

>>14051501

>>14051498

careful with those edges kid

>>14051512

I wouldn't say she's a miracle of the universe but she's one of the pokemon girls I like.

>>14037391

Then why is evert other open world game shit?

>>14051512

>being a contrarian

>hurrr everything new is bad!!!

no one cares about your minority and irrelevant opinion, go post fag pics elsewhere

>>14051524

Just stop playing them. There isn't a point anymore. Maybe emulate what you loved with emulation I mean and play it once more or every few years, look at it was, not what it is.

>>14051524

wow look at this special snowflake

go nostalgia somewhere else

USM are great games

you sound depressed

>>14051533

I still play them so I can have argument ammo when I talk shit about the new ones. The most fun I can have with something I once loved, is ripping it apart.

>>14051535

>USM are great games

Were they your first or something? Are you six years old?

>>14051539

>May is my favorite.

May is every good mans favorite. Because she is the best.

>>14051535

I'm still waiting on you to list that ultra SM postgame content lad.

>>14051539

She's cute, I also like Crystal, and Hilde.

>>14051554

she's nice too. Long blonde hair. Most of the pokegirls are pretty nicely designed. Why anyone sexualizes the pokemon is beyond me.

>>14051557

Now that's a good butt and pair of panties.

>>14051543

>Were they your first or something? Are you six years old?

my first were red/blue when i was a teen you dumb baby, go have a hissy fit somewhere else

>>14051548

google it, did you 100% the game and create an unbeatable team for online battles? no

>>14051569

Too fucking true m8

>>14051571

So you admit you fuckin lied

>>14051576

>good pair of legs

>Goes to the worst, most well used part of them

>far away from the two bigger appealing parts ass, and vagina of course, not discounting the thighs or hips as well.

Footfags are gay, and a shame to the male species.

>>14051587

>Roxanne

I had many a boner with her. Jerked off to her sprite in Emerald I did.

>>14051602

>Licking

>Not just kissing her and getting to the point

You have hands and a penis for a reason dumbass.

>>14051602

>licking everything

just dick the vagoo and move on with your day, who the deuce has time for that?

>>14051610

So are well drawn hips, legs, busts, thighs, panties, skirts, and faces.

>>14051612

Now you sound like a vore fag.

>>14051581

even as a kid the pokemon anime was just goofy, Ash is the dumbest trainer there is

>>14051631

Only one of those is appropriate. It's dicking her and then you can lick her.

>>14051630

Most of the schoolgirls, beauty's, some gym leaders and some of the other trainers in the original editions anyway.

>>14051639

Of course they wouldn't add romance options. Dumb faggots would complain about lack of homosex. She's not bad though.

>>14051639

>Of course they wouldn't add romance options.

>wanting 11 year olds to romance each other

>>14051454

I fucking quit sun and moon the moment I realized that I was 3 hours in and the game was still hand-holding me and throwing tutorials in my face. Gen IV was best, gen V was uninspired trash and gen VI was middle tier But only because it had waifu dress up games

>>14051762

>I fucking quit sun and moon the moment I realized that I was 3 hours in and the game was still hand-holding me and throwing tutorials in my face

That's basically Pokemon in a nutshell

>>14051766

Not to the same extent. Hell, even the obnoxious cutscenes in gen. VI weren't this bad. You can't take two steps without someone trying to handhold you in S&M

>all these disgusting normies wanting to fuck human girls

Get the fuck off my board.

>>14051779

Now imagine going through the exact same thing again, down to even the same dialog and events, but it's even longer and more intrusive

That's USUM

>>14051801

>Ash with green eyes but still slanted

Much better color but the slanted eyes look like shit.

>>14051810

Even robots like big tit blondes.

What if instead of training pokemon, you trained trainers through dating sim style relationship management and skinship?

>pick female "master"

>go around to towns collecting all of the shotas that are heading out at the start of their pokemon journeys

>reward the successful trainers with encouraging words and headpats

>>14051813

It's probably James.

>Nintendo giving pokemon a budget comparable to botw

HAHAHA

>>14054239

It is James.

So why don't we post our dream Pokemon game? Here's mine:

>Region set in the west coast US, a San Andreas style of region, with Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Las Vegas.

>Everything is wild west themed, from the villain team who is a bunch of banditos who have to go back and the starter outfits.

>Contests and secret bases return, reworked and improved for the console hardware. Contests would be similar to how they work in the anime, where the first round would be like in the games, but the second round would be contest battles.

>Game is non-linear. Gyms can be done in any order you want, and scale with you. Wild Pokemon however, do not scale, so you can catch a much higher level pokemon if you want, while making the "Pokemon will obey you properly if you have a certian number of badges" BS useful for once.

>Pokestar Studios return. This time the movies made are proper cutscenes you can make as you go along.

>Pokemon can follow you again

>Pokemon appear in the wild Persona style instead of at random, so you know what is out there.

>Game Corner returns. If they can't do gambling, then have it be a collection of minigames

>Battle Frontier returns, with a multiplayer queue

>Co-Op mode. A friend can join you on your journey and you can do it together.

>Difficulty selection returns

>Seasons return

>Pokemon customization. We can change our trainer's outfits, so why not give some costumes and accessories for our Pokemon too?

Shame that Gamefreak are a bunch of retards so we know they'll never do any of these.