/v/ - Video Games

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/538/1538583/

Highlights:

>World is replacing the main series (using a subtitle so if it backfires and flops they can just go back to proper MonHun with 5) and is aimed very specifically at the foreigners who wouldn't play because of post-item animations and the like.

>Maps are 2.5x larger to accommodate the inter-area connections. This is supposedly why they made the glowy bug shit to keep you from getting lost, and dropped Paintballs.

>Multiple base camps that you can fast travel between and change your equipment in.

>Other Hunters can be invited to join a quest mid-way.

>Online matching can be set to worldwide or by language.

>The T-Rex is named Anjanaf, and the yellow things are Jaglas and Dos Jaglas.

>The thing on the player's arm is called the Slinger and it basically means things like Rocks that you pick up don't get counted as normal items but as ammo for that thing.

>The rope thing is used in context specific situations where it can be hooked, and automatically like in the bit in the trailer where you fail the mounts.

>Damage displays were added because of complaints that monster reactions were hard to discern.

Some key quotes:

Tsujimoto: "'Monster Hunter' itself has continued for a long time, and so we thought somewhere along the line there was a need to take a fresh look at it, and choose this timing to produce it."

Tsujimoto: "Up until now we've done numbering, as this is a timing to take a fresh look at 'Monster Hunter', we brought that concept into the title."

Fujioka: "It feels like numbering, but World is just a subtitle."

Fujioka: "There was this global wall we were never able to surpass. So we wanted to think about that and include that here."

Tsujimoto: "When we say that, it might make you think we're ONLY thinking about global with this work, that's not the case at all; we think this concept will absolutely satisfy the people who've played the series up until now domestically, and on top of that will be global and expand more and more. It's a global that includes Japan."

Fujioka: "Since the foreign fans have increased, we'd like to more straightforwardly have them playing. To go even further, we'd like them to interact more with Japanese users. Just, we want to make it while properly facing up to the elements that prevent it from expanding."

Question: "Where did you feel this global wall?"

Fujioka: "Even though there are facets that are great as Monster Hunter's unique traits, it was frustrating that they didn't seem to transfer well.

If there's a stopping point when you take an action, we include that as part of the strategy, but there are people who don't play simply because of that."

(regarding the damage value displays)

Fujioka: "We, who are developing the games, accepted them without any sense of disconnect or discomfort, so we think it'll work out alright."

>>14027174

I don't get why there's a time limit when pretty much every other demo ever is just freely available.

>>14027182

Oh hey nipanon, are you planing to play the beta?

>>14027192

>nipanon

Calm your paranoia, I haven't even said anything negative about World itself, you're going to feel real silly having wasted it this early when you want to use that meme on someone who really tears into it.

>are you planing to play the beta?

I'm out of town visiting family for the holidays myself, so I'll be missing out on beta access.

>>14027206

>Calm your paranoia

C'mon now, we all recognize that OP style.

>>14027194

>chan

Fuck off.

>>14027211

Listen sweetie, You clearly are not a regular poster here if you are not in our discord, Especially when you are clearly new for not ever playing with /v/ so stop posting in our general

>>14027210

>Style

That's just the copypasta we all have been using for ages, only the shills tried to shift the threads into being about World instead of MonHun as a whole.

>>14027217

>That's just the copypasta we all have been using for ages

No, there's only 1 copypasta, the OP. the 2nd pasta was made by you and you've been posting it every chance you get

>>14027228

The second post is the OP post for World, and has been used in every non-shill OP since a prior OP translated it. But hey, feel free to keep stewing in the whole "everyone who isn't using every single post to praise World is an evil Jap" mindset, that seems to be working well for you. I'll just go back to playing Monster Hunter until the actual posters show up.

>>14027250

>replying to a bot

>>14027194

>no reading comprehension

Sasuga Makoto.

>>14027241

>feel free to keep stewing in the whole "everyone who isn't using every single post to praise World is an evil Jap" mindset

You can't fool anybody

>stalking the catalog to make a new thread as soon as the other reach page 13

>same 2 image with the same filename

>"World" OP but did not put any new information about world

>subject is monster hunter thread instead of general despite using the /mhg/ abbreviation

You know the probability of 2 peoples using the same image with the same filename and the same wrong subject to make an OP? 0.00000000000000000000000000001%

>>14027194

>nipanon trying to cause drama again

>>14027263

>implying he has to try when everyone's just shitposting constantly because world is that mediocre.

>14027266

Nice IP change, nipanon.

I like how I get proven right that the thread is nothing but shitposting both posts after mine

>>14027263

>>14027247

>>14027257

That's /v/ for you, hating everything in every possible way.

>>14027284

Nigga nigga ooga booga

>>14027275

>>14027194

>people trying to shill a discord.

oh god is /v/ monhun being taken over by attention seeking trannies wanting an 'inncer circle' like every fucking mmo general ends up being?

>>14027304

>he got banned from discord for ERP

>>14027304

I think this is the new tactic the shills are trying to pull to try to make it seem like the old fanbase are all namefagging dramawhores on some separate social medium.

I hope Akantor comes as dlc for World.

>>14027308

Everytime theres a sniff of a 'regular' game for /v/ to meet up and play its always the same shit.

This is why you never join a /v/ guild in mmos.

>>14027311

>he doesn't enjoy playing /v/

>still comes to generals

You don't have to be so tsun tsun.

So i'm guessing these retards dont know the retail release of MHW has an account blacklist huh?

>>14027325

A what? I don't own ps4.

>>14027308

>discord

>social medium

>"I'm not nipanon I swear, what the hell is steam?"

>>14027334

>uses bots to spam

WEW

E

W

>>14027355

>you fuckers

>one guy botting or being turbo autistic and spamming the thread

>>14027339

>IM program

>Not a social medium

Do you not know words?

>>14027366

How can one be so butthurt?

>>14027369

>chans

>you talk to other people

>not social media

Oh wait?

>>14027373

Hence why I said a separate social medium, as in not this one.

>>14027375

Semantics.

>>14027379

That one anon proved you wrong in last thread though.

>>14027388

Pretty much. Like I said last thread, it seems like everyone who isn't part of the shill group has been accused of being Nipanon, including the bot who keeps spamming that discord thing.

discord?

>>14027379

>>14027388

You got booty blasted in last thread for anon pointing out that you just parrot shit while the people who actually played the beta give some actual criticism.

So uh, like a clock work, huh?

Can you just disable your bot too, everyone knows it is you.

>>14027398

>>14027388

Are you happy? Your samefagging is so obvious.

>>14027422

>he is still doing it

>>14027422

Like a clockwork.

>>14027418

>Only console pleb doesn't know about discord

Again, not sure why a chat program is supposed to magically improve PC gaming, or why that'd be unique to PC gaming over console gaming. Good luck selling your product though, you obviously are desperate to with how badly you're spamming it here.

>>14027432

>11

It is a VOIP I think, not a chat. But most VOIPs have a chat too.

>>14027437

OK, but I'm still not seeing what that has to do with playing video games

>>14027443

Maybe if you had friends, you would see.

>every time someone sais something against makoto, here comes 1-3 bot messages

Oi vey (((makoto))), don't be so obvious.

>>14027454

>using a /v/ discord

>using discord in general

>calling someone else new

>>14027459

Just because you are lonely assburger with no friends, it doesn't mean talking to others mid game doesn't give advantage.

Don't @ me anymore. :^)

>>14027463

Listen sweetie, You clearly are not a regular poster here if you are not in our discord, Especially when you are clearly new for not ever playing with /v/ so stop posting in our general

>>14027463

>actually wingmaning his bot/different IP

WEW

E

W

>>14027463

Ignore him. Some cuckchan faggots are trying to shill their discord here and pretending it's a super secret club only oldfags are allowed in.

>>14027477

At least change your writing style, (((makoto))).

>>14027468

>>14027471

>everyone I don't like is the autistic jap

>>14027489

>he replied to his own bot/alt id

Aww.

>>14027502

>tfw no nekemusume in mainline games

>>14027477

>>14027334

I have never seen butthurt this delicious, keep crying about our discord

>>14027544

I know the game isnt perfect, I fucking played it myself. The only legitimate criticism I heard about the game is the casualization, most of it can be avoided as its optional, I still hate the inability to lose mounts or overly long turf wars but otherwise its a good game on its own. It has done everything I wanted to see in the series in one fell swoop like

>Interactive environments

>No loading screens

>An actual ecosystem

>Good console graphics

<Dragons dogma paced gameplay

I never really asked for that but it turns out that its pretty damn fun

Its a pretty good and ambitious game on its own but an alright MH game due to some of the unnecessary changes. I believe its still a fun game though Definitely better than x/gen/xx no doubt, but it still doesn't seem like 4U will be topped anytime soon.

>>14027583

><Dragons dogma paced gameplay

What do you mean by this?

THE GAY COMMUNITY

>>14027595

If you ever played the game you would realize that the combat is fast, movement based and has alot of momentum, especially with ranged weapons such as bow and arrows. MH was kinda fast depending on the weapon but you wouldnt be able to move whole shooting weapons such as the bow or bowgun but now the players can move around pretty fast with any weapon in the game. You could even move to different body parts while mounting a monster. Of course you still have to time attacks and cant roll or evade out of everything but it all still reminded me of dragons dogma when I played. Thats how I felt about it.

>>14027622

Ah, I see. I have only seen videos of World, but it didn't bring DD to my mind.

DDxMH crossover when?

>>14027630

I get a Dragon's Dogma vibe for sure. There is a lot more mobility in each weapon, but not too much. The dual blades definitely feel like they were taking some cues from DD. I think a lot of it has to do with MT Framework though. The engine just has a unique vibe about it. It definitely feels like DD for some reason

>>14027677

Oh yeah, DD was MT framework too. That could explain it partially too.

>>14027677

>>14027690

Every Monster Hunter since Tri has been on MT Framework. That shouldn't cause much of a change.

Btw guys, the beta just started. Practicing bow atm.

>>14027775

>>14027775

The monster always ignored you when moving from zone to zone faggot

>>14027861

Don't bother, he's been posting that same shit every thread and refuses to admit that previous MHs had the same limitations with monster movement on zone transitions.

>>14027938

You are not fooling anyone.

>>14027938

Hello makoto. Nice counter conspiracy theory. Too bad everyone recognizes you, because you are unoriginal twat.

>>14027861

It worked in the old games because it would immediately transition to the next room, just like the hunter does. If it actually does lock its AI into moving between "rooms", then it's going to need to physically run along the entire hallway, which will take a while. I haven't seen any hard evidence that it actually does lock its AI and makes it ignore hunters entirely (in the webm he posted Anjanath was casually walking so it probably hadn't noticed the hunters and wasn't even aggroed yet). In the previous games, monsters would still react if you made them flinch or stagger, and sometimes would even cancel moving between areas to keep fighting a little bit longer. I'm assuming it works something like that.

I'm unable to play the demo. Will monsters always ignore you entirely if they're in hallways? Because that seems really lame, and I was expecting they'd keep fighting even in the hallways.

>can cut tails with throwing knifes

Was this in earlier games? Never heard it happening before.

https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousGentleMarrowEagleEye

>>14028041

All I know is that I recently played 4U with some friends and one of the more annoying things was the zone transitions. Right now I think they do more harm than good and I'll be happy to see them go.

>>14027963

>>14027986

>unoriginal

Yeah, there wasn't a "Japanon is samefagging" conspiracy till I mentioned Japanon isn't one that samefags last thread. He was usually known for how many posts he has and used as a boogie man. Meanwhile the shill was caught three threads ago, and made a similar mistake two threads ago. Last thread was a clusterfuck, and most likely on purpose.

>>14028070

But it was the same fag botting in last thread as it is in this thread. Because I am the guy who had (((68))) posts in last thread. :^)

>>14028087

>>14028057

Pretty sure you could. Throwing knives are mainly used to inflict status ailments but also do a small amount of cutting damage, so it can happen

>>14028079

And I'm pretty sure you're the same guy who had 40+ posts between different ids three threads ago. Meanwhile calling Japanon autistic for having 30+ posts. I didn't say you did it last thread. I wouldn't have any facts to back that up. Last thread was a mess.

>>14028131

But I came back yesterday after ~1 year.

>>14028166

Better than switching IDs and using bots to cry.

>>14028171

How do you know it's Makoto and not a pathetic attempt to false flag after being caught?

>>14028191

People who act like fags should be shamed. If they get mad for getting called x, then it is just another tool to use against them. Chans have done this since ever, like it doesn't matter if "summer fags" are real or not (they are), but if you get mad for called one, then you are probably just as bad. :^)

Someone tell me why XX supposedly sucks. It's my first monster hunter, got the switch version. Only thing I don't like so far is the super ultra megamoves, everything else seems fine.

>>14028217

>Only thing I don't like so far is the super ultra megamoves, everything else seems fine.

Hunter arts are antithetical to the (previously) thoughtful gameplay about making use of timing windows and careful positioning, instead of facetanking everything with infinity i-frames.

This demo is different from the last one. The Pukei Pukei and Kulu-Ya-Ku are no longer super fucking rare anymore and are pretty much avaliable to fight now. I seen the kulu-ya-ku in 2 seperate quests and I recently killed a pukei pukei. Or maybe I just got lucky with both of em? They are both quite fun to fight.

>>14028041

>I'm unable to play the demo. Will monsters always ignore you entirely if they're in hallways?

Im currently playing the demo right now and I can confirm you you do enough damage to them when going through the hallways they sometimes fight back, they can even follow and fight you in the hallways if they want to. But of course you can chase down flying or digging creatures fast enough to tell though.

>>14028204

>If you don't like world you should be shamed

That's a shill tactic, anon. Also you didn't answer my question, or are you just admitting that you only used Makoto to fit in because you saw some shills using it?

>>14028324

Are you him? Because I never actually defended World.

Also that did answer it.

>>14028259

>The Pukei Pukei and Kulu-Ya-Ku

Which quests do they show up in?

>>14028456

Pukei pukei shows up in the ancient forest and kulu-ya-ku shows up in the wildspire wastes. There can only be 3 large monsters per map so they usually take the place of another monster there such as mudsioth, rathalos or dialos.

Have fun anon

>>14028191

>attempt to false flag

What good does using your own quotes to reply to yourself do?

So are we just never going to get a normal monster hunter ever again

>>14028587

maybe

>>14028587

Define normal.

>>14028587

Anon, your first MH was XX, that game isnt even a normal MH. Its a spinoff made by a different team with a bunch of shitty anime mechanics that you would never see in a mainline MH game. World is already a better game than XX.

>>14028667

I think your impression of the combat is only good because you played the CB. The GS got made to revolve around abusing a super armor shoulder check, the HBG and LBG got made into super move spamming pieces of garbage, and horn lost even more of it's identity.

But that's a pretty good assessment aside from that.

>>14028667

>Monster Tracking

I'd be more on board with the monster tracking if they didn't have the bugs too. If I was able to turn off that option and just use the tracks (with maybe a general kind of arrow pointing me in which way they go, just at the track, then it goes away) that would be much better in my opinion. The main problem with that, unfortunately, is that if you lose track of the monster whilst fighting it (say if a turf war happens and you get caught up fighting the other thing), I imagine it would be quite the bitch to find it again without the bug things.

>General Combat

As far as general combat goes, I used the longsword, greatsword and charge blade. Longsword feels good, definitely faster. I almost never got hit while using it, and I haven't even started using that i-frame move yet. I generally didn't use the shoulder tackle, so the Great Sword mostly just felt satisfying. I don't have much to add on the charge blade besides what you said.

>Item use

Seemed fine to me. You seemed to have unlimited whetstones, but that's probably just a demo thing.

>No Stamina Use out of Combat

I concur with what this anon has to say.

>The Lock On

I don't use and have never used lock on in MH, so this doesn't bother me.

>The Maps

Definitely confusing. I feel that the main problem isn't that they're so big, but that they seem to lack some definitive landmarks, and feel kind of samey. Without a map and just plopped into the area, I can see some getting very lost, very quickly. I don't have a problem with the interconnection of the map, I just wish it was easier to make a mental map of.

>Slinger

didn't use

>Auto Slide

only happened to me when the monster was running away, so it doesn't matter.

>Healing potion change

I don't particularly agree with anon here. Whilst does, technically, take more time to heal up using the new system, I got knocked out of healing a grand total of once. One major problem with the game, really, is just how much healing you get out of nowhere. I found myself surprised sometimes when I was full health when I was near certain I had been hit previously. I think they may tone that down out of the beta though (one would hope.)

>Sound Effects

No complaints here.

Overall, my impression of the game is kind of middling. It's better than some anons make it out to be, but I was not nearly as excited to play the full game after this demo as I was after the MH4U demo a while back. The fighting was fun, to say the least, but the rest of the game lacked impact and atmosphere.

>>14028580

To create a narrative that Japanon is the one that samefags despite there being no evidence it is him other than (((someone))) claiming it is and not the shill who has been caught doing it several times now.

>>14027938

Pretty much this. We're going to get swamped in this crap until World comes out at least, possibly for a couple weeks after depending on how long they want to shill it. It's a shame really.

>>14028587

Probably not. If World succeeds, they'll just keep making World, and if it bombs, the suits will decide "Well I guess that means Monster Hunter has died as a powerhouse, time to kill it."

>>14028673

>having a second thumbstick to control the camera is a welcome change/addition

That's not new though, Portable 3rd on PS3 had that, as did every one of the 3DS titles.

>>14029100

Just stop samefagging, people finally started to talk about the game, but you have to ruin it again. Is your ego really that fragile?

>>14028638

That's what I'm talking about, tho. I want a new monster hunter that isn't trying to be devil may cry or dragon's dogma. I settled for XX because I couldn't get my friends to play the older ones with me.

That being said, I think XX is mostly fine if you ignore the arts, though. The styles are kind of weird but they're a neat idea.

>>14029100

I had a normal 3DS without the circle pad pro, so this was a welcome change for me. I didn't play Portable 3rd. I suppose the correct words would be "I'm glad it went back to that."

>>14028717

I'm not a GS player (or a Horn player, but I feel pretty sad about its treatment. I really like when there's a horn player on the team), but I've seen some complaints about the shoulder charge. I'm not much of a gunner aside from bows, which I've yet to try but I heard you can spam its special attack too.

>>14028841

Yeah, I'm still unsure of whether I like or hate the changes to potions, but I think the palico can heal you. And I think there are plants around as well. I don't really like the plants but the palico healing is fine.

I can confirm that stamina does indeed run out of stamina when the bar doesn't show. Try it.

>>14029191

>I had a normal 3DS without the circle pad pro, so this was a welcome change for me.

Yeah, I'd definitely recommend getting one of those or an N3 for MonHun if possible, it makes it much more tolerable since clawing on the 3DS is a thousand times more awkward than doing so on the PSP.

>I suppose the correct words would be "I'm glad it went back to that."

It hasn't really gone away though, it just required either the accessory or the revision since the original 3DS lacked the second stick. The function was still in the software itself.

>>14029216

AFAIK the demos are usually easy. They give you OP equipment.

>>14029116

>everyone that I don't like is the same person

And before you say I think everyone that likes world is a shill, I don't. I think there are fags here that do actually like it, but there are one or two fags that have been shitting up the threads since World was announced, and they've been more aggressive about it since Beta.

>>14028841

> I found myself surprised sometimes when I was full health when I was near certain I had been hit previously. I think they may tone that down out of the beta though

Palico healing is practically a full heal. Everytime it did it it healed about 75% of my Health, and he almost always did it when I was low on health. You might not have noticed it since they just shoot a giant bubble at you to touch for the heal.

>>14029216

>As if they are going to stop making monster hunter if world fails.

In the past, Monster Hunter had the protection of nepotism, due to the producer being the boss's son. There's been rumor recently that Daddy's health is on the decline, and that the balance of power in the boardroom is shifting because of it, which some think is the reason for things like World, and Monster Hunter being pushed into Marvel vs. Capcom despite MonHun always getting special treatment of not featuring in any crossover type materials. If that's the case, I could easily see someone with an axe to grind getting power and killing off MonHun out of pure spite. It wouldn't be the first time Capcom's done that to their own IPs.

>>14029226

>doesn't reply after getting told

>switches IP again and wingmans his old post

It is pretty clear to be honest. At least he now has decency to post normally, so I will ease too.

>>14029214

I find I use the target camera almost exclusively while fighting large monsters in the 3ds games. It's way better and probably the best improvement they have ever made to the handheld experience.

>>14029226

The palico healing is too good. It should heal as much as an herb does.

>>14029226

Just ignore him, you're only going to make him think his tactics are effective and encourage him to keep spamming his shit.

>>14029239

>I find I use the target camera almost exclusively while fighting large monsters in the 3ds games. It's way better and probably the best improvement they have ever made to the handheld experience.

It definitely helped when I was on the old 3DS, yeah. The New's little nub took time to get used to, but now it feels pretty natural, at least for MonHun.

>>14029243

If they were concerned about that, a PS4 exclusive wouldn't have been billed as the replacement for mainline Monster Hunter, but as another side-project like X was.

>>14029256

If that was the case the west would not have seen any monhun releases since the freedom games you absolute pinnacle aspie.

>>14028354

>>14029238

>this is being told

You didn't answer shit other than admit you just want to fit in, and you decided to fit in with fags trying to push "the everyone I don't like Japanon" meme. That is if you really just came back yesterday.

>>14029288

see: >>14029242

>>14029244

I find the New3ds nib to be a pain in the ass to use. It's not terribly responsive and In order to get the most out kg it I have to dig my thumb nail into it.

>>14029299

One thing is that it loosens up a bit after a bit of use, I realized that while CFWing a friend's at the time newly purchased N3.

My girlfriend preordered the game for my Christmas present so it looks I'm playing it regardless. I have been optimistic about the game so I hope it's good. I would hate to sell a Christmas gift.

So far my first impressions are good, but there are two main flaws that kind of irk me, hopefully they will be fixed when it is released:

>>Combat feels good, all the new move are quite impressive and fun.

>>Graphics are nice, I'll like the quest to be longer just to explore the levels.

>>Interesting monster behavior, it seems there has been an attempt to make it somewhat more realistic, with a lot of small monster not immediately attacking, instead "growling" at you, attacking if they see you as a threat (attack first, it seems after that smalls monster in general become more aggressive)

>>The hunters look great, there were only predetermined characters, but there were very good options both for female and male (and some ugly ones)

>>Interesting new tools and items.

>>Movement feel pretty good.

>>Maps are big and look very nice, there is a lot of verticality.

>>The tracking system seem quite interesting and fitting for the game

<<Colors are washed up.

<<The UI is kind of crowed in my opinion-

>>Most element can be deactivated.

<<The Guild girl or whatever is her name is fucking ugly, like, Mass Effect Andromeda tier ugly. There is no fucking excuse after seeing the qt blonde hunter you can pick.

<<Is easy to get lost.

<<THE FUCKING FIREFLIES. It makes the tracking just trivial as fuck. I can understand that sometimes, specially at night or on high vegetation is hard to see the tracks, but it is very satisfying to see the footprints or some kind of substance and follow your prey. The Fireflies just take the fun out of it and look distracting as hell.

But my biggest concern, and I really hope it is just a case of it being a demo; it is too easy. The Great Jagras is a joke, I basically stun-locked it to dead. Barroth isn't nowhere near MHtri nor 3U levels of difficulty, which wasn't that hard to begin with. Anjanath was better, more challenging, but nothing amazing. Also, I use GS and I don't know what to think of the tackle. On one side, it flows pretty well with the rest of the move set, gives us more options, and some good combos with decent mobility, something that the GS was severely lacking, and it feels fresh. But so far is too damn good, like ridiculous. Less damage, Superarmor, and it almost always seems to either knock back monsters or make them flinch. Right now it is too good. Also I'm worried that the high number of new tools are too useful and the monster cannot keep up.

Overall, a first good impression with some serious concern. If the full game difficulty is well tuned and offers a good challenge and make all the tools relevant without becoming too easy, I think it could be a pretty good game.

>>14029380

This is the same demo used for Gamescom. It's set to Game Journo diffoculty there are videos kg the actual game going around that shows the monsters being much more aggressive and hitting much much harder. Someone posted a Nergigante video and the monster basically two shot people and was fast as fuck.

I can't wait to see the actual game, and see for myself. I am glad hunting arts are gone at least.

>>14029380

This j's the video, sorry for double post.

>>14029380

>THE FUCKING FIREFLIES

This is why I don't get people who are all excited for finally being able to "track" the monster. It looks like just following sparkly shit for a few minutes, which would require even less thought than finding monsters for the first time in the other games.

>>14029431

Is that 100 HP/Stamina? The bars are the same length, which would mean either the player didn't eat the Rations, or Mega Potions now heal 75 HP. Also, the monster doesn't seem all that fast, but it can leap pretty damn far, so closing distances for it wouldn't be a problem.

>>14029467

Pretty much this. If anything it seems like playing a little treasure map mini-game before getting to the actual monster.

>>14029431

Thanks for sharing, it really looks good, makes me feel more hopeful for the full release. That said, Funny enough I carted once on my last Anjanath hunt. Guess I got too confident. Although this time it entered in a rage mode in which he started to spill fire, got my by surprise.

>>14029467

Yes, it is actually cool when you are looking for clues. Carcasses, footprints, any kind of mud, body fluid or whatever distinct tract the monster leaves. But the fireflies make them too obvious and they are very distracting. It really takes away from the feeling of hunting.

Granted though, sometimes the tracks are almost impossible too see (low illumination, high vegetation, them being under water). If taken fireflies away is too much, they should at least tone them down so the only point out things you are literally on top of to make sure they are not completely invisible in certain circumstances, so at at least it would reward to a certain extent players that are aware of their surroundings.

>>14029506

If taking fireflies away is too much*

Sorry, I'm retarded.

>>14029486

>>14029467

Yeah, I can kind of agree with those. I still like them because they highlight interactable things, but they make some things way too obvious.

I also wish they would change the flies leading you to giving you a general direction instead.

>>14029380

I think it's reasonable to assume that quests will be normal length in the real game.

>>14029530

Of course, I assumed the same. I just wished the demo gave you more time just to explore and hunt at your own leisure.

>>14029506

My biggest issue with the scoutflies is how little control you have over them. In this current demo period, I finally found some footprints that belonged to one of the optional monsters, but it found exactly one and didn't point to any others because all they want to do is track the quest monster. Even when I've found enough to track a second monster, and you can tell when it builds two separate footprint bars, it refuses to guide you to it and there's no way to tell it otherwise. Finally, when you first play the demo, the beginning area is goddamn rife with footprints. You don't have to leave the room to find enough to get your first tracking bar. The second time you play that mission, or even enter that zone, the prints don't respawn, so you're forced to wander around until I find something else that'll trigger the tracking. Also, something needs to carry over between missions. There's no goddamn way I've killed Barroth with four different weapons and my hunter still doesn't know what monster it is when he sees the same tracks. This is doubly important when there's more than one big monster in a zone. If I see something that's explicitly Barroth tracks and some that only register as ? tracks, I know something else is in the area. If all the tracks start as ? every time, it's that much harder.

>>14029602

Agreed, hence why I'm playing right now

>>14029602

>dat Gwen

mu duck

>>14029486

It's about as fast as Diablos was in the old games. It's also focusing on multiple players so who knows how terrifying it is solo. I have high hopes for this game.

>>14029623

That sounds nice.

Any idea if the system works as direct lvls to get all info or do you actually have to break parts etc to get accurate info for all?

I thought Pukei-Pukei was a myth, but found it on the snot dino mission near the beach.

>>14029623

>drop rates for each monster.

Pretty sure it only shows what parts come from what, not the actual rates.

>>14029645

It says things like common or rare, but doesn't give percentage.

>>14029649

Makes sense, since it doesn't give actual damage rates for the hit zones either. Kind of a shame, it's in this bizarre middle ground of uselessness where if you want the specific numbers you still need to use Ping's Dex, but because it's automatic and doesn't require the player to fill it in manually it doesn't encourage the player to pay attention and learn about the monster since the game does it for them.

>>14029636

You get research points for kills like caravan points or wycademy points but they also behave like exp. Breaking parts gives you extra points just like tease in the older games.

After fighting Anjanath a some more times I feel more confident about the game, the fights were quite fast and fun. Now the it feels you can use more the environment to your advantage, like I could reach the monster faster and pull out a mount by grapling to a high tree and attacking the monster when it came close to the cliff. I love the sliding and jumping attack you can do. Also, I actually got fuck over when things like paralysis frogs activated while fighting the monster, which is quite interesting and force you to be more aware of the battlefield.

I'm also excited about how look the character could look if Crapcom decided to release Dragon's Dogma 2 already, seeing how nice the preset hunters look for the most part

>>14029683

>Now the it feels you can use more the environment to your advantage

No shit, the entire environment is tailored to help you.

>Also, I actually got fuck over when things like paralysis frogs activated while fighting the monster, which is quite interesting and force you to be more aware of the battlefield.

Just remember their spawns and lure monsters into them for free traps. More shit to give you an advantage.

>>14029683

>Now the it feels you can use more the environment to your advantage

This is actually one of the things I dislike about World, since it very much felt like the environment was working against you in the past.

>>14029697

There are elements of both I'll say. I need to toy with the demo more, but some of the enviroment traps can be activated by accident and affect you. The water and mud zones are still Barroth elements. The zone where the Anjanath goes to sleep is a plataform form by vines which move constantly depending on how you and the monster move or attack, meaning you can make it get stuck or it can make you lose your balance. You cannot use a shock trap there either. It is also cool how the monster use the environment to try and throw you off when mounting it (although more fun that 4U, it feels a little bit too much like a QTE. Perhaps they should remove the button prompts and force the player to observe the monster movement to know what to do).

I would say though, it does feel more catered towards the hunter. I love that kind of interactivity though, yet I too hope that in the full release more monster make uses of the stages or force you to work your way around monster using their environment to their advantage.

If you guys wanna hunt some shit in the beta, I have it open and I'm hunting with randoms for a bit. I can quit if someone puts up a room.

How much of you demo dudes tried out the multiplayer? I refuse to do MP unless if its with friends or /v/. But whenever I join a /v/ demo server its the same guy, hes a cool dude but does everyone else prefer single player or what?

>>14029697

>it very much felt like the environment was working against you in the past.

Anon, the environments were usually flat arenas, there wasn't much to go against you in the past. In fact in 4u the environments were helpful because they gave you ledges to jump off of to mount monsters.

Not to mention we never seen the volcano level yet.

Can you give any actual examples of the environments working against you thats not

>volcanos spouting steam

>hold/cold potions

>literally nothing else but flat land

>>14029741

I want to hunt the fucking pukei pukei. Any of you fags manage to find it?

>>14029766

Me and some nips ran into it. Wasn't there another rare spawn too?

If you don't want your palico to join you in a hunt, just talk to him at the camp, there's an option to leave him behind

>>14029741

>>14029766

Me and some dude hunted one about an hour or two ago. Its not really hard to find anymore and it was quite a thrill to hunt. But no one else joined our lobby.

I am willing to join anybodys lobby, just put up your code.

Im just sick of playing singleplayer, I already played the ever-loving FUCK out of this demo.

>>14029766

I did, kind of an accident, started I think in the camp at northeast, it was pretty close. I don't know if the spawn point is random.

>>14029749

>Can you give any actual examples of the environments working against you thats not

>volcanos spouting steam

>hold/cold potions

Despite your attempt to make it seem otherwise, volcanic steam and lava fields were very much the environment working against you since they only harmed you and not the monsters. Same with hot or cold environments, for that matter. There were also poisonous marshes, and sliding sand areas. I would also say that the plethora of areas that required you to climb for any length of time would fall into that category, especially when you're trying to chase after a monster that's escaping.

>In fact in 4u the environments were helpful because they gave you ledges to jump off of to mount monsters.

I found the ledges more of a hazard than a boon, considering that you were more likely to lose your post-damage invincibility window by being knocked off of one than anything.

>>14029776

How did you find it? it there a condition to spawn it or is it just a rare random spawn?

I don't know any rare monster other than pukei pukei, maybe theres one in the deserts area.

>>14029789

There's a whitish bird guy who's as big as Great Jaggi.

>>14029776

>>14029804

The chicken-G.Jaggi kulu-ya-ku over in the wildspire wastes used to be a rare spawn. I bumped into it while looking for diablos though.

You could tell if either the kulu-ya-ku or the Pukei Pukei is in the map if either the Jyratodus or the Diablos is gone in the desert map, or if the rathalos is gone the the Anjanath quest.

>>14029789

Start a mission near the rathalos nest. That is where pukei spawns.

>>14029804

Oh, and also, Diablos spawns in the desert area as well. Don't know where though.

>>14029789

Started the Anjanath quest and followed the nips. Then saw a shadow of a flying critter pass over head and when I turned around to check, there it was. It didn't live long with four smacking it around though.

>>14029812

Diablos is underground. You can force him out of hiding by shooting the remobras with your slinger

>>14029818

>>14029812

>Diablos is underground

If you spawn at the northern most basecamp in the W.S. wastes and leave the camp, the diablos would be inside of the cave that you entered unless the Kulu-ya-ku replaced it. There are also two entrances to that cave from the surface so its not impossible to get to where it is.

The scoutfly clues are not random. I spent at least 15 minutes following anjanath around with the ghillie suit and watched him sneeze on stuff and leave footprints around the map. The monsters leave these clues for you. They are not randomly placed around the map. Try it out.

>>14027432

Listen sweetie, You clearly are not a regular poster here if you are not in our discord, Especially when you are clearly new for not ever playing with /v/ so stop posting in our general

>>14029736

The button prompts actually stop displaying past a certain point. After an hour, I stopped seeing tutorial prompts entirely, and I got fucking destroyed by Diablos because of it.

Still managed to beat him. Switch Axe is kinda broken, and lance mounts way too easily.

>>14029766

I found it while hunting the third monster. Near the coast.

My question is how well do you think keyboard and mouse controls will translate for MonHun World on PC?

>>14030472

Try playing one of the PSP games on PPSSPP without a controller.

>>14030570

After playing a few more hunts both single and multiplayer, it seems to me like it's going to be fun, but flawed in certain ways. I can't tell for sure whether it'll be good or bad but the beta seems pretty good to me.

Generally the demos for MH gives you OP equipment so it's hard to tell what the actual difficulty and progression is going to be like for sure in the full game. But as far as most mechanics go, I like it a lot.

>>14030570

>>14030590

I'm pretty confident at this point that, while the entry content might be easier than the other titles, the lategame/endgame fights will be just as bad as any other game and just as unfriendly to casuals.

I'm sorry but I just can't forgive running while drinking and gears of war heavy bowguns.

>Go to charge slash with CB

>If you so much as scratch your ass before pressing the button, it sends you into the dodge roll attack instead

This combined with the console controls are really fucking me up

>>14031047

What other controls would there be? PC?

Anyone know if there is a setting or combination of settings to set the kinsect to shoot forward relative to your hunter and not the camera? It's the one thing throwing me off about getting used to glaiving on an actual controller.

>>14031245

The portable controls the main series has had for almost the last decade

>>14030083

>sweetie

>playing with /v/

i can't tell what's ironic or not anymore

aside from hame runs to farm shit, there's literally no point especially when mh is so babby friendly now that 140gqs from the shitshow called 4g lasts for 4 to 11 minutes solo on average.

>>14031373

I think it's just straight up shitposting, they've used the exact same wording multiple times to try and push their little side clique and shit on people who solo.

>>14031373

it's pasta made to make fun of the sad people that think their discord group is worth shit.

>>14031358

With the exception of the added stick, which newer entries did have, I'm not sure the controls are all that different.

>>14031520

>You seem to be able to pivot a lot more during your charge attack compared to other games. Sure in gen 3+ you could pivot your attack a little, but nowhere near this much. This makes it so you don't have to position yourself correctly since you can always adjust. You should commit to a whiffed attack if you aim it wrong.

There's also that shoulder tackle that lets you reposition yourself completely mid-charge.

>>14031539

Yeah it cancels your charge and moves you to the next stage of your combo, meaning you can shoulder tackle twice and move to the loop the loop move.

There's actually a video someone showed me that shows it off a fair bit come to think of it.

>>14031504

The addition of triggers is mostly what gets me

Sprint being mapped to the stick as a toggle also doesn't help

>>14031387

>>14031426

>>14031466

>implying it isn't false flag

Wait.

>1

>2

>the guy that got busted for samefagging earlier

I see. Kek.

>>14031772

i would report you for being a retard, but seeing as you are on the monhun general you're indeed in the right place.

Does anyone here actually enjoy MH?

Jesus Christ

>>14031819

>was the first to call nipanon Makoto

>the cicle has ended and now i'm him

Now i understand what venon snake felt.

But no, i don't think Rioureusu is a better name than Rathalos and can actually say MonHun 4u instead of 4g without having a aneurism.

Also i hate the claw and never want to go back that shit ever again.

>>14031868

welcome to /v/ - "reddit exiles trying to fit in" version

>>14031563

Well, it's not as bad as being able to actually move while charging, but judging from how powerful that third strike looks to be it still seems pretty damn abusable, and either way is part of the general trend of World's design to distance itself from committing to actions.

>>14031701

As in using the whole L3/R3 shit? I hope you can just use the normal buttons instead, L3/R3 is the worst part of modern controllers, and was easily the most irritating part of the control scheme in the PS2 MonHuns.

>>14031850

Every weapon plays pretty differently, though some obviously more than others. There's a lot of replay value and depth in learning a new weapon, and it can provide a fun way to reexperience older games by taking them on with weapons you're not so familiar with.

>>14031868

I fucking love it, hence why I'm playing it right now.

>>14031959

>was the first to call nipanon Makoto

>the cicle has ended and now i'm him

You either die or live long enough to see yourself become the villain and now you see another reason why trying to create identities on an anonymous imageboard is cancer

>>14031908

I see, I'm stuck at trying to beat Shagara Magala. Nothing I can do but git gud doing villager requests in the mean time. How Important is Affinity when it comes to damage? Because between Gore GS and Tigerex GS, Tigerex has more Base dmg but Gore has 25% Affinity and 150 Dragon element.

>>14031975

Critical hits do 1.25x damage, so what you should do is take the raw you have on the Tigarex sword, multiply it by 100, then take the Gore's base, multiply it by 75, and add that total to the Gore's base after multiplying by 1.25 and 25. That will give you the average raw output comparison. Element is a little trickier to work in, but considering Shagaru is weak to Dragon, unless the Tiga sword has a LOT more average raw output even after factoring in the crit bonuses, you may find the Gore sword more effective.

>>14031990

Alright, Seems like Gore sword is still best sword, One more thing. Does Sharpness effect damage as well? Tigerex have Blue level and Gore has green but overall Gore has the most sharpness.

>>14032035

>>14032018

Is this confirmation that it is another chinese neural network that has gone rogue?

>>14032045

Absolutely does. I've found conflicting details on the exact numbers, but Green sharpness either is a 1.05x or a 1.125x multiplier for raw and a 1x for element, while Blue is either 1.20x or 1.25x for raw and 1.0625x element. Since you're using GS, even a relatively small amount of Blue can last you a long time, so keep that in mind as well.

>>14032045

>>14032062

Also, if you pull a Level 3 charge off it counts as one level of sharpness higher than normal, so if you pull one off with the Tigrex in Blue, the multipliers you get would be the White ones, which seem to be 1.32x raw and 1.125x element.

>>14032086

Awesome, happy hunting!

>>14031805

Edgy.

>>14031850

What do you mean? They are fun to use.

SnS can be played as a "support" with wide range.

>>14031520

>>14031517

Not being able to play the game since there's no PC demo, this is what I feared would happen when they announced the game saying they didn't want to lock the player into too many animations and being able to move while healing. MH is about commitment and spacing, that's what makes mastering a monster fun. It's when you place yourself just on the edge of a monster's attack and manage a hit without getting hit yourself, turning battles into a sort of trance where you're always one step ahead and manage to outplay the monster and land every attack safely through skill, timing and raw monster knowledge that the game feels truly satisfying. Making any of these steps easier takes away that satisfaction at the end.

>>14029415

>Nergigante video and the monster basically two shot people and was fast as fuck.

Don't think we watched the same video lad

Pro

>Environments look nice (when you can see them)

>Holding a button down to get carves was carried over from Generations.

>the weapons have neat changeups

>You can sprint forever when out of combat

Con

<the scoutflies obscure everything, preventing you from seeing much of the "pretty environment"

<as the videos show, the removal of transition screens means you have to manually traverse the winding pathways between zones. This means you spend the majority of your "hunt" jogging from one area to another and when a monster goes into the AI lock of "go to different zone", they march the whole way there as opposed to a single room transition.

<the environments are so cluttered and lacking definition on interactable objects, the game has to give a readout on ever single thing around you, further obscuring the environment, as opposed to the color coded method of previous titles.

<monster stagger limits are a joke. Many times in the videos, I just keep attacking as recklessly as possible because every other hit knocks the monster down.

<pinning strikes are not only easier to perform, but are impossible to fail. There are a couple times, particularly in the anjanath video, where I fail a mount due to being purposefully sloppy, but instead of being thrown off and penalized, my hunter just throws a lasso and suddenly spidermans back onto the monster.

<also showcased during the pinning strikes, there is no way to disable the giant ass "PRESS X TO DO AWESOME" prompts, despite having removed basically everything else off the screen.

<The lack of the hunter having any vocal cues is a problem. A hunter will grunt in various degrees of pain depending on how hard they are hit, giving an audio cue of how hard an attack hit you. Through all five hunts, I never once heard my hunter utter a sound of any significance no matter how hard I was hit, leading me to not even care what attack the monsters were performing.

<Monster roars lack the shockwave. There was a wonderful screen distorting wave that showed why your hunter wasn't moving. It also showcased that the monster was SUPER PISSED. Here? We don't have that, Some monster roars are hard to hear for the player or it meshes into the music, so the shockwave is a bonus cue for the player to know what's up.

<No blood. Hits on monsters would showcase a minor splatter of blood. The more vulnerable a spot on a monster, the more blood you'd see on a hit. Conversely, the reverse, a whiff, was showcased by a gray splash of dirt. In here, everything is gray dirt. Adding to it, the sound for impacts is the same when hitting the ground as it is when hitting the monster, therefore never giving a satisfying sound cue for hitting the right spot.

>>14032330

This video showcases AUTO HEALING. 90% of the healing done in this video was through no choice of player input, but auto activated because "OMG your HP is low, lemme recover that for you, you pissy retard baby!"

>>14032330

And THIS video shows how:

>you can't fail mounting

>you can fight sloppy as fuck and still win

>roars got no shockwave

>hunter MAKES NO SOUND so you have no gauge of when you just got hit REALLY hard or just stumbled unless you stare at your HP

Take note that I play as a stubborn fuck who refused to heal+walk at the same time and I still win within the time limit.

>>14031975

>How Important is Affinity when it comes to damage?

Dual Blade Crit builds are absurdly powerful. Crit's importance is about raw damage but also speed, it's less important on the GS unless it's a very decent affinity boost.

>>14032336

Autohealing looks reasonable as a mechanic. A portion of the most recent damage you take recovers over a period of time. It's not like you just automatically regenerate half your bar when you get low.

That said, you seem to have WAY too much health relative to the damage you take. Seems like you could survive a good 10-20 hits without any healing at all. If the game was designed as a real test of endurance that might be reasonable, but with healing readily available from multiple sources (automatic or otherwise) that really just seems too easy.

>>14031850

Longsword has a fairly unique combat style, and is decent at both raw damage and elemental damage. It's also got an extremely long reach. I think of it as a very balanced jack-of-all-trades weapon. It can be extremely difficult to use well in multiplayer though, because blind shitters who don't know what tripping is spam spirit attacks near other hunters. Most of these shitters have moved on to Charge Blade or Insect Glaive instead by now, but they're just as bad (or worse) when it comes to tripping people.

SnS is a bit tricky. It's not a great weapon. It hits fast so it's good at applying statuses and doing elemental damage, but DBs hit way faster and are generally better for damage dealing. You can use items without sheathing, but, some weapons (eg DBs, GS) sheathe very quickly so that's not as huge of a benefit as you might think. It's still an advantage, and with a few flash bombs any flying monster will regret having wings. (You can also fuck Diablos and Monoblos up real good.) You have a shield; it's not very useful, but, it's useful enough to keep you alive in an emergency. SnS is pretty much the best weapon at dealing statuses, so para and blast are its two best friends. Sleep's good, too. Combine this with the ease of tossing a flash bomb at a flying monster, and SnS is very good at keeping a monster down. Which is good, because it has trouble hitting things that are high up.

>>14032360

Once it's available critdraw becomes almost mandatory for GS, so at that point, as long as affinity isn't negative, it's completely irrelevant for GS. Even negative affinity tends to matter so little that GS can ignore it in favor looking at everything that has the highest level of sharpness currently available and just picking whichever has the biggest attack number. And GS doesn't care about element much, because usually, pure raw damage tends to outperform elemental damage.

>>14031047

That got me a few times, but honestly I really like the fade slash for the CB. It's fantastic for repositioning. I don't see using it for getting out of the way faster than a dodge, though.

>>14032412

Imagine a game where an attack does 10 damage to your 100 hp.

Now imagine a game where that same attack does 20 damage, but you can heal 10 back if you don't get hit again for 10 seconds.

You are complaining about the second game being "babby mode" when it's objectively harder than the first one. The mechanic is fine, the balance is what's wrong here.

>>14032418

>You are complaining about the second game being "babby mode" when it's objectively harder than the first one.

Nice framing of a hypothetical. Let me try:

Imagine a game where you take 10 damage. Now imagine a game where you take 10, but heal 5 easily.

Your solution is to balance the game around the latter and not create a game with decent enough gameplay that the latter isn't necessary. It's why we went from healthpacks to regen health and shields.

>>14032418

That kind of autohealing is what MonHun's always had though. The autohealing the vidposter is complaining about is presumably stuff like the full heal bugs and such.

>>14032439

If you balance the game around the latter you can create a game that's even more lethal when you consistently fuck up but only the same lethality when you only occationally fuck up. It's a good mechanic.

>>14032444

That's not what he described, and it's not what I saw in the segments of video that I watched. "Full heal bugs" are not something done without player input, you have to go and find those.

>>14032454

Haven't gotten around to that video yet, so fair enough. I'm pretty sure he's not talking about the red bar healing that's always been in though.

>>14032458

I didn't see any other healing except a potion about halfway in, but I only watched sections of video and not the whole thing so maybe I missed it. Seems unlikely though.

>>14032446

>If you balance the game around the latter you can create a game that's even more lethal when you consistently fuck up

No, you can't. Because it provides a fallback that is encouraging breaking from the action. In the former scenario healing is part of combat, in the latter healing is inherently separate from combat.

>It's a good mechanic.

It's a bad mechanic. It's artificial difficulty at best, and encouraging breaks in combat at worst.

>>14032336

So the game will randomly force you to drink a potion?

>the end of that video

>barroth goes to sleep while you're attacking it

What the fuck did they do to the AI? I remember back when a monster would look around and refuse to go to sleep if you were even in the same room as it. Now they go to sleep even if you're still attacking them.

>>14032468

It's not encouraging breaks in combat because it only applies to the most recent hit. Exiting combat after every hit taken is not practical. If it were simple health regen where you suck your thumb in a corner and full heal after a bit that would be a different story. What we are talking about is an encouragement to not get hit again

>>14032481

>Exiting combat after every hit taken is not practical.

It becomes practical when doing so provides free health recovery. Especially on high-damage hits.

>What we are talking about is an encouragement to not get hit again

The encouragement to not get hit again already existed. Getting hit was always discouraged, always something you didn't want. Now you just have an extra incentive to break combat.

>>14032485

>Get out of combat to heal after every hit

>Time out

There was nothing I could do!

The system works because it lets you restore part of your health from the last hit if you don't get hit again. You can either be a bitch and run away to heal, which also lets the monster recover and makes you time out or power through it and recover as much health as possible or fully restore the red meter if you don't get hit again in the meantime. The only time red health is usable as a combat mechanic is when you're fighting monsters with low damage output like the Barroth in the video or a tired monster, or when you know the monster well enough that the hit you took in the first place was a stupid mistake on your end that doesn't happen often. Against higher damage you're going to simply heal yourself, the risk of a cart because you're fighting and another hit can kill you while you're recovering isn't worth the saved potion or two, unless, like I said, you're confident enough that you won't get hit again.

Tfw get soon to test beta. I hope it is ok.

>>14029191

Just from testing in the demo horn buffs got nerfed in general. Maybe buffs just overall did, but they were giving pretty minor bonuses compared to what they did in 3/4/X. And the only reason I use those is a baseline is because I remembered the values off the top of my head.

They really really hate horn

>>14032336

So did you not push the Square button for the first and third heals? Because it didn't light up for those, which makes me think that's what you meant by the game autohealing you. Both of those also happened almost immediately after sheaths, which makes me wonder if the game is reading you holding the button down a moment too long as saying you want to use the item as well as sheath?

>>14032543

Aren't the buffs % based? So they wouldn't be amazing for low rank demo.

>>14032330

>the scoutflies obscure everything

They're actually not that intrusive except when you have a monster trail locked on.

>This means you spend the majority of your "hunt" jogging from one area to another

1) wow it's the same as the other MHs you spend some time jogging (remember when fuckers skipped zones? yeah FUN)

2) In world you can stop them from fleeing. Paralysis, explosive/stun slinger ammo, flashes make them fight you again. get gud.

>monster stagger limits are a joke

Complaining about that on the fucking tutorial monster, how new are you?

>pinning strikes

You have one spiderman attempt (if you got hit by a "MOVE" countered attack) and the actual fail state is your stamina just like… other MHs

>>14032336

>AUTO HEALING

Wow your companion heals you just like, I dunno, other MH games?

>you can fight sloppy as fuck and still win

Go fight diablos.

>>14031539

the shoulder tackle doesn't really move forward and you lose out on damage.

>>14031972

True charged slash is very much the definition of commitment, 4 whole seconds of it.

World is amazing and the QoL changes were very much needed.

>>14032576

They're pumping out pretty low numbers even for % is the issue. Roughly 10% for them from the testing I did.

>>14032586

>QoL changes

Such as?

>>14032612

Well that sucks. HH is one of the most unique weapons so I would like to see it more. I am a fag and can't play it well myself.

>>14032345

The player was holding Brace when the monster tried to shake him off, and then dodging when the monster tried to use the environment to knock him off.

There is no mounting meter this time, it just drains your stamina. Some moves the monster can do to shake you off can drain a lot if you don't brace.

Also roars do have shockwaves. (2:09 - 2:10) They're just less noticeable. AFAIK all the monsters' roars in the beta can be blocked by Earplugs (one of the mantles gives you temporary earplugs). The roars that stun you are also very, very short, compared to the roars of the previous games. Probably giving you less time to dodge through them and attack the monster while they're roaring.

I assume that the ones will need HG Earplugs will have more noticeable shockwaves and/or will probably be longer.

>>14032622

I mained it even after the first big nerf it got in X/XX but jesus this is just sad at this point. You do slighly more in theory because your perform got an MV buff, except you do less in practice because of the buff nerf. In addition to the massive stun nerf that the monster hunter team seems to love giving horn every new iteration now, unironically the "don't hit the head with the HH" isn't even a joke anymore, the damage and stun you do is so pitiful you're basically better off going for a less crowded area when hunting with a group.

>>14032630

What is up with these posts?

>>14032647

no clue, world being… mediocre? it's not bad but it's not great, seems to be making people mad on both sides of it for whatever reason.

There's like 6 bots going on during peak now

Take your discord drama shit somewhere else, no one gives a shit about your shitty server.

>>14032656

>>14032647

Seems to be one guy who's skipping IPs

>>14032658

Barely anyone posts in discord so I don't think it can be called that.

>>14032661

Regardless take this shitty drama elsewhere. Last time I got involved was with FF XIV and now I may have to get involved with WoW. I'd rather not get involved if possible.

>>14032667

Fork the spammer's IP? That should take care of it.

>>14032659

Naw, the style is too inconsistent to be one guy. We know he's probably an american because he spams during US times. I mean this was partially caused by the horrific defense I've seen played out here about world's flaws making it incredibly easy to become shitpost central.

>>14032667

Also happened with the dragon's dogma online threads.

>>14032675

One post? Wow we have a case here boys.

>>14032672

Is that the case? They all had only (1) post. Either way thanks for reporting them.

>>14032680

sometimes the ip hop fucks up and the bot replies to themselves.

>>14032679

You have been shitting up threads long before that, it's not a coincidence that all the reactions images that you see posted on here that come from cuckchan vg MH are from the same posters from the "discord", it's also not a coindicence that you have been shitting on everybody else that had a different opinion to your clique

>>14032686

What?

>most weapons get something cool

>lance gets counter that drains stamina

Eh.

>>14032586

>actually using companions

i dunno but i don't really want my hunts to last longer with the little shits taking aggro from the monster and doing little to no punishment.

i actually thought this was a meme but i did saw videos of people using companions in earlier monhun games. still baffling to this day.

>>14032797

But kitties are cute.

What or how do you name your hunters/palicoes?

I've been wanting to know this for a while. I usually chose names of characters from other video games because I have no creativity of my own.

>>14032465

You can choose not to bring cats. You can't turn of scoutflies and all the other environmental garbage that clutters the game.

>>14032914

i liked the masked guys better. the poison trap and landmine was nice though.

>>14032962

Usually made up names, but this time, considering Palico customization, I'll probably will make it look like my cat and name it the same.

>>14033025

I haven't even used mantles at all during either demo. I keep forgetting about them

>>14033025

How long do you thing it'll take for it to be banned from speedruns?

>>14033076

wrong thread, sorry bout that.

>>14033095

>So what is our Squad (guild) name going to be?

Let's Play A Better Game

>>14033104

Every speedrun I've seen of the demo has used it.

>>14032336

>AUTO HEALING

Is this your first MH or something?

>>14032454

>"Full heal bugs" are not something done without player input,

Bull-fucking-shit, the damn cat pulls them out of its ass and pops them over your face automatically everytime you get knocked over or have you health clip below 80%.

>>14033237

Healing from cats is nothing new.

If they make the monsters more aggressive this will easily be the best MonHun ever. You fags are deluded.

>>14033100

I am no longer as creative as I used to be, probably thanks to the amount of fluoride I have probably been drinking for the past while but here are some shitty names I thought up anyways. Something that rhymes would be nice because I remember the /v/ dragons dogma online guild's name was called "Daimon Dogs"

>/v/ETA

>Animal Control

>Animal lo/v/ers

>Monster lo/v/ers

>Remo/v/e frenchie

>MHXX Fan club

>Freedom Unite is Better

Or should we just be humble and call ourselves?

>/mhg/

>>14033384

Diablos is already plenty aggressive.

I've had a friend introduced to the series through this game and while he was able to clear every mission i enjoyed watching him get his shit pushed in by the horny REEEEEEEEEE machine.

Has anyone tried gunlance? The wystakes or whatever look pretty cool.

>>14032625

I believe earplug has 5 levels now so who knows what roar needs what level.

>>14033095

Meowster Hunters.

>>14033095

>>14033401

Gaijinhunter is a cuckoo.

I really don't get why they would make a cool system of monsters leaving behind tracks and stuff for you to find and follow and then give you magical glowing bugs that do all the work for you. When is someone going to make a game where you get to go tracking without the tracks glowing or having a magical guide show you exactly where to go? MGS4 was close but you still have thermal goggles and raiden holding your hand the entire time.

>>14033384

Not really, the maps and overall design is much worse. A lot of weapons lost identity

>>14032586

>the actual fail state is your stamina just like… other MHs

Actually, in other MonHuns you could fail a mount by the monster "catching up" to you on the mounting bar, which doesn't seem to be a thing here at all near as I can tell.

>the shoulder tackle doesn't really move forward

It doesn't seem a very big movement, but the point is that you can do it to cancel out of a move you couldn't cancel out of before, and you can use it to reposition while taking less damage and Super Armoring, which is pretty insane.

>and you lose out on damage.

How so? Do the charge attacks you cycle into lose motion value or something?

>True charged slash is very much the definition of commitment, 4 whole seconds of it.

Except you can drop that now with the shoulder move.

>the QoL changes were very much needed.

What QoL?

>>14032658

Mark not being a faggot? Guess there ARE Christmas miracles.

>>14033567

Where did you see that? First I've heard of any sighting of any "binary" Skill getting more levels than it used to have.

>>14034062

>True charged slash is very much the definition of commitment, 4 whole seconds of it.

>Except you can drop that now with the shoulder move.

I'm pretty sure he meant that once you release the button and start the attack, you go into a lengthy animation which require to hit the monster twice for full damage and then have a relatively high recovery time were you cannot dodge nor use any other move. And I think it doesn't have Superarmor, or at least there are attacks that knock you out of it, had it happen to me. It does require commitment. Also even if tackle reduces damage, we will have to see how damaging are the monsters in the full game.

>>14034062

That arrekz guy or whatever his name is has a list of all the skills he has seen so far. The earplugs being one of them.

Attack up has seven levels.

>>14034298

Are they retarded? Were actually discussing and playing the demo now. We've been doing that since yesterday.

>>14034341

>Are they retarded?

They're using Discord, fell for the nipanon meme, and think 4/v/ has actual discussion. Take a wild guess.

>>14034341

>4chan regulars

what do you think?

I think the new GS is pretty interesting, but I guess the tackle is a bit too good.

Is there any way to change bugs' color? I am basically color blind and seeing them in desert map is almost impossible until they form the huge swarm.

>>14034576

Damn phone changing IP randomly.

pls no bully I am at my family to celebrate xmas

>>14034062

> the monster "catching up"

My bad yeah. It's pretty much the same "spam triangle and just grab when monster's angry" mechanic, but it does seem easier in world.

>It doesn't seem a very big movement

It's something like a single step forward or so.

>and you can use it to reposition while taking less damage and Super Armoring, which is pretty insane

It is insanely good yeah, but you still take a good amount of damage (at least 2/3rds of it?) so you basically fuck yourself up if you shoulder big moves, and you have to commit to the tackle itself as you can't just roll cancel it with impunity

>And I think it doesn't have Superarmor

You can at the very least power through a diablos charge! At the cost of almost half your hp.

>and you lose out on damage

Even charged, shoulder only does 20-30 damage compared to at least 60+ for a swing that takes around the same time, maybe a tad bit more.

All in all, it does enable a more reckless, casual style of play but frankly shitters will just cart using the tackle. You really need to know the monster well to be able to reliably set up true slash with it.

>QoL

Things like

- Radial item menus

- Much better item box handling (auto-filling the amount to how much of the item you can get max when transferring stuff so it's easier and faster etc.)

- Faster and on the go item gathering

- Auto crafting

(with these two, clutch grabbing a flashbug off the wall to drop a rath becomes possible and is real fun)

- whetstones being just infinite and not part of your items anymore

- not having to fight in smallass zones and getting launched into loading screens

- finally got rid of flexing (I think potion walk/roll cancel is balanced because of longer heal times but running is fucked up.)

Does world feel more casual than older MH? Yeah, (except X/XX) but it comes with a smoothness and richness that feel amazing, and the core gameplay still has all the toughness and learning and fun of MH.

>>14034166

>I'm pretty sure he meant that once you release the button and start the attack, you go into a lengthy animation which require to hit the monster twice for full damage and then have a relatively high recovery time were you cannot dodge nor use any other move.

That's fair, I think the other guy mentioned that there were still a few moves with high recovery, they're just all placed at the end of combos.

>>14034266

Google found me some e-celeb looking shitter, is it this guy? https://youtu.be/qRHLDAzPOIU If so, does he actually have it written down anywhere, or do you just have to sift through all his video shit where he refuses to fucking shut up? Either way, didn't see any indication of Earplugs, but looking at what IS shown, Attack, Critical Eye, and (Element) Attack look rather overpowered compared to before, while the regular Defense Skill looks to be more useful with weaker armor but less useful with stronger armor due to a lack of a percent gain. The elemental resistance skills do look much stronger than before. The one that catches my eye is Evade Window, which looks to replace Evasion, which has gone from 3 stages to 5, though because of the lack of hard numbers it's impossible to say how this will compare to the normal Evasion.

>>14034619

>It is insanely good yeah, but you still take a good amount of damage (at least 2/3rds of it?) so you basically fuck yourself up if you shoulder big moves, and you have to commit to the tackle itself as you can't just roll cancel it with impunity

Granted, but it seems more like a way to escape if you start charging and lock yourself into the path of a monster's attack. And the tackle itself looks short enough that I'm not sure when you'd cancel out of it anyway.

>- Radial item menus

The thing where you get a circle with the items instead of the normal selection? It honestly looks worse than the normal to me, but since the normal is still available, nothing wrong with having more options.

>- Much better item box handling (auto-filling the amount to how much of the item you can get max when transferring stuff so it's easier and faster etc.)

Hopefully that can be disabled, there's quite a few instances where I want to take less of a specific item than the maximum.

>- Faster and on the go item gathering

This is pretty much the only thing I've seen that I can't think of any real negatives about, though I would presume you still have to sit still and mine/swing the net for ores/bugs.

>- Auto crafting

This I'm hesitant on, because god knows how many times I've had to find a safe moment to open up the menu and combine, and I do think it adds an important extra bit of tension, especially for Gunners who shouldn't be getting hit as much and thus shouldn't generally need to be stopping to heal as often. Also curious how that's going to work with things like ammunition where it has a chance of combining for more than just the one, since that could lead to "wasted" combines in a sense.

>- whetstones being just infinite and not part of your items anymore

While it does remove a bit of bloat in a sense, considering the reason for doing it I can't really be happy.

>- not having to fight in smallass zones and getting launched into loading screens

I don't think having a bunch of empty corridors and extra climbing is any better to be honest. And large open areas were always the worst to fight in, remember the first area of the desert back in 2nd gen?

>- finally got rid of flexing (I think potion walk/roll cancel is balanced because of longer heal times but running is fucked up.)

That's not QoL at all, that's game balance.

>Does world feel more casual than older MH? Yeah, (except X/XX) but it comes with a smoothness and richness that feel amazing, and the core gameplay still has all the toughness and learning and fun of MH.

That's the thing though - it's pretty clear that the game is taking away the need to learn by simulating it for you with the bugs and the in-game encyclopedia, and it just doesn't look nearly as tough or as fun as MonHun.

>>14033797

Because his wife left him?

>>14034717

>And the tackle itself looks short enough that I'm not sure when you'd cancel out of it anyway

In the demo, when Diablos does his double attack where he steps forward and swings his head twice, I was able to tackle through the first one, but couldn't roll away in time to avoid the second one. That's one instance, though I could have just fucked up the timing, haven't played with the tackle much yet.

>though I would presume you still have to sit still and mine/swing the net for ores/bugs

You do still have to stop to mine ore. Not sure about bugs.

>whetstones being just infinite

Has this been confirmed? I thought it was just for the beta.

>I don't think having a bunch of empty corridors and extra climbing is any better to be honest

Honestly, the corridors really only seem to be a problem on certain parts of the forest map. The desert was pretty wide open.

>it's pretty clear that the game is taking away the need to learn by simulating it for you with the bugs and the in-game encyclopedia

Scoutflies aside, the in-game encyclopedia is the one complaint I really can't empathize with at all. Anyone who played these games for more than a few hours looked up the monster's info on a wiki or Kiranico, what exactly is the difference here other than convenience?

Getting used to radial wheel is hard, but at least you could disable the use-on-release. Kind of retarded default setting.

>>14034619

Automatically playing half of the game for you isn't quality of life, it's a mechanical change. It allows you to focus on the combat instead of gathering and experimenting with combination (not that experimentation means much post gen-1). Quality of life is holding to gather instead of pressing, being able to gain items without committing any time to the action changes how you play fundamentally, not just saves you a-presses, opening the menu to combine also restricts your available actions and movement, so unless auto-combine puts you in a menu-open state this is also a game mechanics change. Removing whetstones is questionable, since the 20 whetstone limit is more than you could reasonable use in a quest without having a very specific build, but it still costs money or time to collect whetstones, so this isn't a definitively QoL improvement. Fixing zone hitboxes wouldn't exactly be a QoL improvement, but if a monster can enter or die in an area that you can't reach purely because of the zoning hitbox (as opposed to killing a swimming plesioth or a monster in lava) it's clearly an issue. The problem with this is that the only reason the zoning screens are 'fixed' is because they don't exist anymore, so you can't say that this issue has been fixed so much as flat-out removed.

This is an important distinction to make because the discussion isn't about quality of life anymore but about game balance instead, so whether you like these changes or you think that they make for better gameplay becomes the topic instead of simply 'these are QoL improvements'. For instance, I'd be inclined to make some arguments for why gathering being tied to an animation is important for some games, regardless of whether I like it or not, but I don't think there's very much to be said about holding to gather instead of constantly pressing to gather, or about the existence of item sets. So on that, easier to use item menus and item boxes are definitely quality of life, but the radial menu isn't an absolute improvement, though it probably is much better, and if the auto-filling can't be toggled there are situations where this could be counter-productive, but for the most part it saves pressing a few presses to set the amount to max for the vast majority of items you take out.

Also, did you make that comment about removing flexing honestly? It's basically a running joke at this point to say that you think the flex is stupid, it's important as part of the game-balance and as part of the series' style.

>>14033949

>I purposefully disabled any healing abilities my partner could do.

The only way to do that is to not bring your palico with you dumbass

>>14034717

>like a way to escape

It's truly not. Maybe if say, only one of your legs will be in the monsters hitbox since it'll move you about half a character forward at most. It is a way to get out of being launched though.

>>14034843

I actually feel tackle takes longer to get out of than swing.

> I want to take less of a specific item

Oh, you can perfectly do that, it's just that they adjusted the default behavior to the one you use the most (taking as much as you can), which is great.

>you still have to sit still and mine/swing the net for ores/bugs.

You do, but it's faster too for ores.

> it adds an important extra bit of tension

Fair point.

>chance of combining for more than just the one

Tried that out. It seems it won't auto-craft it there are multiple possible autocraftable items as a result of a pickup

>>14034843

not 100% confirmed, but in your item pouch, the whetstone is in a particular category, "Fixed Items" together with the capture net, fishing rod and bbq.

And I just noticed the materials pouch is 24 slots.

quit talking about some random fucking discord no one cares about holy shit

>>14035283

Wouldn't that be nice? But our two shitposters here have woken up and their communist state has fucked them over to the point where the only joy they get is shitposting about an irrelevant discord where people play video games. So they gotta post about it all the time in a really cringeworthy fashion.

>>14035325

i wasn't aware, so sorry.

>>14035325

life is hard.

>>14035302

nice shop kiddo.

If anyone needs a spare hunter for the Beta, I got it open and I'm playing with randoms at the moment.

>>14034843

>the in-game encyclopedia is the one complaint I really can't empathize with at all. Anyone who played these games for more than a few hours looked up the monster's info on a wiki or Kiranico, what exactly is the difference here other than convenience?

It's a wasted opportunity and designed the way it is purely so that players don't have to learn things for themselves. It doesn't give precise enough data to actually replace using the Dex, so the players dedicated enough to want that knowledge still need to use outside sources. On the other hand, because it's filled in automatically by hunting instead of requiring the player to fill it in manually with what they've noticed by fighting it, it doesn't encourage observation or learning about the monster as a whole, since the game will just tell you that anyway.

>>14035041

>It's truly not. Maybe if say, only one of your legs will be in the monsters hitbox since it'll move you about half a character forward at most. It is a way to get out of being launched though.

Again, you're taking reduced damage when using the tackle, so it's still an escape from a purely prone state, just not as bad a one as a Bushido or Brave escape.

>>14035041

>Oh, you can perfectly do that, it's just that they adjusted the default behavior to the one you use the most (taking as much as you can), which is great.

Good to hear, then yeah, that's QoL.

>>14035041

>Tried that out. It seems it won't auto-craft it there are multiple possible autocraftable items as a result of a pickup

While that's interesting, I thought I heard people were talking about being able to autocraft Potions? Blue Mushrooms can be used to craft Antidotes too though, or did they change the recipe? That'll be interesting to see when the full title releases.

>>14035056

While I'm certainly not World's biggest fan, I haven't been shitting on it nonstop. Plus, as we've seen in this very thread, even the guy who created the meme in the first place has had it turned on him. The whole thing was stupid cancer, like all attempts to make identity out of anonymity.

>>14035283

Just report them.

>>14035509

>just report them

Yeah but mods don't seem to care.

Since we're already in autosage it might be a moot point now, but judging from >>14032658 it'll be worth doing in more living threads.

>>14035534

It's more the mods seem to be under the impression the discord is a new thing, rather than having been around since December 2015

>>14035566

You're missing the point - it's filled in automatically by you hunting, instead of them giving you a blank sheet for you to manually fill in with details based on your observations.

>>14035509

>While I'm certainly not World's biggest fan, I haven't been shitting on it nonstop.

>(43) posts of shitting world nonstop

I don't know who you want to fools nipanon, but no one is buying it

>>14035587

if that is the point then you should remove all the guide in the OP since you're spoon-feeding people about the hunt, which is worst

>>14035587

The more you break parts hit weak points and use items the monster is vulnerable to the more research points you get. The better you get at hunting the monster the more details you unlock about it in the wiki what you're asking for is legitimately retarded. Stop posting any time.

>>14035670

>>14035721

Different audiences. Broadly, you can split things up between new and veteran players, the latter of whom are the ones that would be taking advantage of resources that give things like exact drop rate percentages or specific hit zone values. This group benefits in absolutely no way from the in-game encyclopedia as it is now, because the data offered is the kind of thing they're likely to memorize on their own just by fighting the monsters.

Now, you might argue, it's not for them anyway, what about the newbie players? For them I would say this hurts their development in learning the game, because it takes away their need to observe how effective their strikes against the monster are in various parts of the body, since the game will tell them anyway. What would've been better is to give them a blank sheet, perhaps with lines for the hit zones, and let them fill in which zones are weaker or stronger based on how much blood came out when they hit it, or entering in the names of the items that dropped from carving or breaking or capturing. This would encourage the newer players to pay attention and learn the game, whereas as is they don't have to. As is, the system benefits no one.

>>14035759

The in game wiki is a net gain for everyone who isn't an autistic faggot like yourself anon. Most people don't have time for your idea of fun. Never ever design a game.

>>14035817

>net gain for everyone

<already explained why it benefits no one

If you have an actual argument at any point instead of just mindlessly frothing at the mouth, feel free to bring it up.

>>14035860

So, that's a no then, got it.

>>14035871

You are the only person I have seen that thinks an in game wiki is in any way a bad idea. You really need to stop posting.

>>14035879

I think it could've been a great idea as a way to encourage new players to learn about the game's mechanics and teach them to be observant, and I'm very sad at the wasted potential because of the desire to draw in an audience not interested in video games instead.

>>14035919

No you don't.

>>14035879

I dare you to quote where he explicitly said an in-game wiki is a bad idea

>>14035935

Considering he's sunk to trying to tell people what they do or don't think, I think it's safe to say he's just shitposting.

>>14035919

You still haven't explained how your idea would be any different than writing it down IRL in a journal, or in a text document on a computer. If the game hands a player a blank piece of paper and tells them "Write down what you think you learned", do you actually expect them to bother? And, if it's manual input, what happens if incorrect info is put it? If the game doesn't tell you if it's right or wrong, then what's the point of having it? How does it encourage people to actually learn what's happening if it provides no feedback at all? If I could write in that a Rathalos's head will bounce purple, and that its legs have a hitzone of 1200, the book is useless at providing any information, and is no different than a scrap of paper. But then, what if the book does tell you if it's right or wrong, or only accepts correct info? Then it becomes guesswork. Put in a hitzone of 5, then 10, then 15, then 20… until it goes green and says "Correct!". That doesn't help people to learn, either.

>>14036004

>You still haven't explained how your idea would be any different than writing it down IRL in a journal, or in a text document on a computer.

Practically, it wouldn't be that different, same as it's not any different having access to the Dex separately putting aside that the Dex has more detailed information. The major difference would be the convenience people keep ascribing to the feature as it is now, and that it would serve as a direct motivation on the part of the game to push players to be more observant and considerate of hit zones.

>And, if it's manual input, what happens if incorrect info is put it? If the game doesn't tell you if it's right or wrong, then what's the point of having it?

That's actually part of why I think it's a good idea - they should be able to make mistakes, otherwise what's the point? Let them learn from it, and as they fight the monster again they might start to realize "Hm, maybe I was wrong about this" and go back and fix it.

>But then, what if the book does tell you if it's right or wrong, or only accepts correct info? Then it becomes guesswork. Put in a hitzone of 5, then 10, then 15, then 20… until it goes green and says "Correct!". That doesn't help people to learn, either.

Agreed, I think that would be pointless and silly.

>>14035759

>Now, you might argue, it's not for them anyway, what about the newbie players? For them I would say this hurts their development in learning the game, because it takes away their need to observe how effective their strikes against the monster

How the fuck is that any different than looking up a guide in the OP you fucking retard? You just as guilty for being a casual enabler for posting guide instead of forcing people's to learn on their own

>>14036057

It's no use anon, he has autism.

>>14036057

New players aren't going to be coming here though, you're conflating your audiences.

>>14036092

Then whose the guide on the OP is for? veteran players? also don't change the subject, you clearly said in-game wiki is bad for new player when they serve the same purpose as the guide in the OP. At least the in-game wiki force you work and level it up instead of just Google it that require no effort at all.

>>14036185

>Then whose the guide on the OP is for? veteran players?

Yes. The resources in the OP are for experienced players who want more detailed information than can be discerned by natural playing.

>also don't change the subject, you clearly said in-game wiki is bad for new player when they serve the same purpose as the guide in the OP.

I'm not changing the subject at all though, the resources in the OP are entirely for veteran players.

>>14036053

>That's actually part of why I think it's a good idea - they should be able to make mistakes, otherwise what's the point? Let them learn from it, and as they fight the monster again they might start to realize "Hm, maybe I was wrong about this" and go back and fix it.

I do think it's a good idea, in theory, but the idea rests on whether or not people would actually use it. Maybe you would. And I'll be honest, I'm autistic enough that I'd probably use it a bit, too; though I'd probably get bored of it quickly then ignore it. But I don't think the average MH player, and especially not the average member of World's audience, would ever bother with it at all.

If there was some sort of reward for getting a certain number of things right (or within a small margin of error) across all of the monster notes or some subgroup of them, but it didn't tell you which ones specifically are right/wrong, then I could see it being used by a lot of people. It would be less abusable through guesswork, because it wouldn't tell you if you had specific things right or wrong, and because it'd be spread out across a large amount of monsters, brute forcing the right answers for the reward would take an eternity. Though I guess anyone who really wanted it and didn't feel like figuring them out would just look it up. Still, then they'd need to figure out rewards for it, and it'd need to be something either fairly rare or exclusive to this, and thematically appropriate. And it'd need to be something good enough to entice people to use it, but not so good that it's OP for how easy it would be to cheat.

>>14036092

>New players aren't going to be coming here though

Don't be so sure of that. I came here when I was new. I visited the monhun threads months before I started playing the games. It's what first got me interested in the series.

>>14036225

so much for "muh observation". Are you a casual than can't figure out monsters drop rate?

>in-game wiki

>"Bad because player won't learn"

>online guide

>"totally acceptable because reasons"

What kind of mental gymnastics are you trying to pull?

>>14036251

>specially not the average member of World's audience

Which is really the soul of the problem - it's not being designed with fans of the series in mind, or with encouraging players to become fans of the series as it was, but with just appealing to an entirely different audience entirely.

>If there was some sort of reward for getting a certain number of things right (or within a small margin of error) across all of the monster notes or some subgroup of them, but it didn't tell you which ones specifically are right/wrong, then I could see it being used by a lot of people. It would be less abusable through guesswork, because it wouldn't tell you if you had specific things right or wrong, and because it'd be spread out across a large amount of monsters, brute forcing the right answers for the reward would take an eternity. Though I guess anyone who really wanted it and didn't feel like figuring them out would just look it up. Still, then they'd need to figure out rewards for it, and it'd need to be something either fairly rare or exclusive to this, and thematically appropriate. And it'd need to be something good enough to entice people to use it, but not so good that it's OP for how easy it would be to cheat.

This sounds really good actually, though like you said the trick would be balancing the rewards out. Maybe unlocking quests where you hunt stronger specimens? Or even making that the way to unlock the quests to hunt the recolor versions?

>Don't be so sure of that. I came here when I was new. I visited the monhun threads months before I started playing the games. It's what first got me interested in the series.

Fair enough, maybe we ought to alter the copypasta to make it clear that things like the Dex are for veteran players rather than for newbies.

>>14036293

>Dex are for veteran players rather than for newbies.

all this talk about in game wiki but then you shill for Dex? what's wrong? can't memorize monsters spawn location :^)

>>14036265

His argument lacks any and all internal consistency. Any and I do many any excuse to hate on the new game is literally the only reason he sticks around. He is not here to discuss the game or even argue about it in good faith. He is only here to shitpost.

>>14036669

>>14036373

>le /v/ hates everything, fuck the haters XD

So you fags are going to continue shitpost any valid criticism of world?

>>14036669

>>14036373

>>14036079

>>14036669

>>14036373

>>14036079

>discord fags continue to shitpost any valid crticism even after being called out by the board owner himself

wew lad

>>14033662

Running thrust?

>>14037175

I knew we had crossposters but the amount of them is staggering. I'm sure they'll shitpost any criticism for eternity.

>>14037186

>>14037224

>le discord boogeyman

>the BO is always right

Yikes, guess you can't provide a reason why having info about the game easily accessible in game to a player is worse for a game over having info only available in an extremely obscure fashion leading players to require out of game resources?

>>14037347

You never needed a dex to learn monster weakpoints for physical damage. You did for elemental though.

>>14037186