/v/ - Video Games

that's pretty much every single game that's not the original in its series, anon

what were you thinking?

Nier Automata and Drakenguard 3. I enjoyed them both, but they didn't have the same magic as their parent games.

Age of Empires 3. Imho one of the most prominent examples of the old proverb "Don't change a working machine". All the fans wanted was AoE 2 with post-medieval civs, and they suddenly mess up the entire gameplay (not limited to, but including that stupid card system).

Starcraft 2 to Starcraft 1.

Warcraft 3 to Warcraft 2.

Diablo 2 to Diablo 1.

Every Legend of Zelda past LttP.

Fire Emblem 6 to Fire Emblem 7 (7 is the prequel to 6 but made after the fact)

>>14013495

Basically this

>>14013497

> Nier: Automata < Nier 1

That's kinda surprising, actually. Given how so many horny anons here want to fuck 2B, I assumed the general reception was that Automata was the better game.

>>14013617

I'm actually disgusted by this post.

Good luck with this shit thread OP, you're a gigantic faggot

>>14013617

that's because the appeal of the games are not due to the sex appeal. 2B being sexy is just a Cherry on top of a sundae. The original game is a more compelling story and Papa Nier is a lovably odd character only due to how much he cares about his daughter.

Also, Earth 2160 was a fucking catastrophe after the three Earth 2150 titles. And the primary reason why the franchise has been kill to this day.

>>14013523

I personally thought the Home City idea was interesting.

>>14013617

Automata is the better game as far as gameplay because it's refined NieR with the Platinum spin. As far as story goes, the original is better in a lot of places.

>>14013537

>Warcraft 3 to Warcraft 2.

Was Warcraft 2 that much better? Other than having a good campaign, WC3 is/was pretty much all about the crazy custom map fun bonanza IMO.

>Diablo 2 to Diablo 1.

what

>>14013657

With all the nonstop adoration for Automata and 2B you see here on /v/ lately, you don't really see as many anons praising Nier 1 as much as they do Automata. So the general impression I got from here was that you guys apparently liked it more than the first game.

A thread for sequels that were actually better than their predecessors would probably be better tbqh

>>14013732

Custom maps were nice but I don't include them when judging a game or else I'd include modding communities and shit as well.

If you want to also take that route, Warcraft 3 also led to the cancer we have today by creating the moba genre even if it was fun back in the day.

Anyways Warcraft 3 was good, I just feel Warcraft 2 was better in too many regards.

>best unit design of the series (including fucking ships man with hand-drawn art that ages much better

>best soundtrack by far

>satisfying mission objectives and varied and wonderful maps and terrains

>spells felt much more impactful, powerful and satisfying to use

>unit effects were much better

>story was simpler, still had heroes but put a lot more focus on the world itself and grander scales (without relying on a bullshit 'great singular evil/overpowered being' either)

>unit deaths were satisfying as all hell

>units individually felt more powerful and impactful, didn't feel like heroes invalidated everything with their presence

>aura units and bullshit like that were basically not present (bloodlust was OP though)

>game balance was much better (a tangential or not as important advantage but an advantage nonetheless).

The main thing Warcraft 3 did better over 2 was the addition of more races, and more unique mechanics added to the races to make them feel special. Problem is some of the ways they did so felt cheap and shit overall.

>Orcs can put peons in burrows for defense, what an exciting defense mechanic!

Jesus christ kill me now

>Diablo 2 to 1

The main problem I had with the game was

>unique/magic consumables/throwables

>in a game where unlimited inventory was no longer possible

>you can't save your game and reload where you were

>grimdark/demonic atmosphere was toned down HEAVILY

>soundtrack downgraded heavily as well

>making the world much wider on top of these changes

>character design felt blander (except for the Amazon)

>dungeons never felt as fun to explore, layouts felt same-y

>sense of progression didn't feel the same

>towns had a lot less atmosphere, characters were not as memorable

Diablo 2 was an SotN to Diablo 1's perfected Classicvania I suppose its more a "difference" than it being superior. Me considering it superior is half my opinion and half the changes they made really turned me off it.

Also the bosses felt like fucking shit compared to the first one, and the world was absolutely dry as well. Enemy variety was… okay but some of them felt like going through a grinder, and in Diablo 2 it just becomes tedious rather than fun like in Diablo 1.

>>14013752

>you guys

Every post I see from you makes my opinion of you drop even further

You sicken me with your presence.

Nier has been discussed time and again, it comes up occasionally, but no fucking shit Automata would be getting the majority of praise as of recently. You don't expect nothing but Demon Souls praise in a Dark Souls thread do you?

>>14013759

Yeah, perhaps it would be. You can go and create that thread if you want to. I personally just finished up Metroid Prime 2 a short while ago. I had this mild feeling of disappointment for the past 2 hours or so. I knew it was because in the back of my mind, I felt like I kept comparing it to Prime 1 as I played my way through it.

Made this thread if anyone else ever felt that way. Games that left you disappointed because their predecessors were better.

>>14013495

Star Control 2

Ultima 6 & 7

>>14013787

I did enjoy Diablo 1 more than 2 for the reasons you mentioned, but in terms of autism, character builds and all that meat D2 wins with flying colors. I don't think the soundtrack is better or worse, it's sure different though, way more ambiental and demonic as you descend deeper into the dungeons of hell.

>>14013852

iirc, didn't Automata get (((localized))) even in the japanese subs for the audio? (not even getting into the english script/VAs)

>>14013870

I don't remember much bitching about Automata translation issues, while I doubt there weren't any none come to mind.

>>14013497

Wasn't Drakengard 2 supposed to be the weakest entry? I thought 3 was considered pretty good as far as the series goes.

>>14014161

Plenty of people consider Drakengard 2 to not exist since Yoko didn't do the writing, it takes place in the same world but according to the best timeline we have here >>14014138 it's considered it's own isolated incident that no one really cares or talks about.

Prime 1 is the only good one and its fucking terrible they are making Prime 4 instead of making a third person Metroid with deliberate combat and exploration like Dark Souls

>>14013495

This

The example you gave is shit OP cause that's one of the few series where the second actually held its own against the original

>>14013495

lol wrong. Almost all of the best games of all time are sequels or iterations of a previous entry.

Metal Slug 4 is a horrible Frankensteinian ROMhack of previous Metal Slug games with very frustrating original level design.

>>14013827

Then you hit Act V with its battle orchestra, but even that knows when to go ambient such as in the ice caves. It's not that the game has worse music, it's that Diablo II has a lot more variable mood than slow exploration through dark underground areas. It is understandably not everyone's cup of tea though.

>>14023980

Halo was never great, shit eater.

>>14024165

Good point

>>14013814

BG2

Icewind Dale 2