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bcfd88 No.14004232
>Battlefront 2 flopped
>Wolfenstein 2 flopped
>e-celebs protesters can’t explain net neutrality
>EA in legal troubles
>PUGB on Xbox one x an disaster
>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
Will 2018 top 2017 in terms of shitstorms?
6ac3e5 No.14004248
yeah but when's the race war?
d5ba55 No.14004250
>>14004232
>mlp is ending
They are working on Gen 5 as we speak. the ride never ends
4bc249 No.14004255
What potential shitstorms are there in 2018? Ubishit will be baiting hard with FC5 but that's pretty much all I know so far.
bcfd88 No.14004262
>>14004250
>They are working on Gen 5 as we speak. the ride never ends
I know but still…. gen 5 will be a action show marketed to girls and boys for some reason.
933a27 No.14004263
>>14004232
>Battlefront 2 flopped
I didn't "flop" but it sure as hell underperformed, much to EA's dismay. But…
>Wolfenstein 2 flopped
I'm going to need evidence for that. As much praise and admiration normalfags/Journalists gave it, I find it "flopping" hard to believe.
bcfd88 No.14004269
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>>14004255
>What potential shitstorms are there in 2018?
933a27 No.14004270
>>14004263
>I didn't "flop"
Son of a bitch.
6a50d8 No.14004278
>>14004269
Oh my god what is that
b31431 No.14004281
>some armenian faggot antique e-celeb sues several people for TWENTY MILLION DOLLARYDOOS because they hurt his feelings
I'm looking forward to that trainwreck in 2018, it promises to be entertaining
7aef43 No.14004282
>>14004232
>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
You got a source?
f335ef No.14004288
>>14004232
>mlp is ending
It ended on season 2. Everything else has been a bad dream.
f6b6d3 No.14004290
0b7e2a No.14004302
>>14004282
I checked /pone/ just now and it's all rumours, but apparently it might end by 2020 or so and then they'll roll in G5.
https://archive.fo/pgEkm
4eed02 No.14004304
>>14004232
>e-celebs protesters can’t explain net neutrality
And why are you basing your knowledge of issues on e-celebs you colossal faggot?
0c65e3 No.14004308
>>Battlefront 2 flopped
Not enough to kill EA.
>>Wolfenstein 2 flopped
Not enough to kill Bethesda.
>>e-celebs protesters can’t explain net neutrality
E-Celebs are dum dums, what a surprise.
>>EA in legal troubles
Won't kill them.
>>PUGB on Xbox one x an disaster
Won't kill either.
>>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
Autists will rape its corpse for eternity, like they do with Sonic.
8996c4 No.14004313
I see how you slip the net neutrality in there faggot. I don't know why you pieces of shit must take a political side to it when in reality the rules were a standing guarantee that no Jewish tricks would be played, but of course let's just oppose it becauseit was passed in a Democrat period
bcfd88 No.14004321
>>14004313
>>14004308
Doug walker net neutrality video pretty much infamous by now. He literally can’t explain it. Or have a pro arguement for it besides trump is literally hitler. E-celebs would be Pro sopa if trump was against it
bcfd88 No.14004332
>>14004278
>>14004295
A metal survive having a battle royal mode being teased
3e42da No.14004340
>>14004232
>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
SAUCE
a343b3 No.14004342
>>14004269
an expansion pack for MGS5? that turns it into a bad Far Cry 3 copycat?
bcfd88 No.14004343
>>14004340
Check the thread
bcfd88 No.14004345
>>14004342
It’s the new stand alone metal gear solid game
5e10f4 No.14004346
>>14004263
No one eve talks about those two, should be pretty good indicator.
Battlefront 2 has 250 viewers atm in twitch and it barely goes up in american prime time. Wolfestein only had a small spike, like most games. But died faster than many other games.
That should be good indicator for interest too.
a343b3 No.14004350
>>14004321
who the fuck is doug walker?
NN classified the companies that offered internet access as common carriers. this brought them under some of the same regulations that worked well for land line phone companies. Without it they will move to adopt many of the same business practices of wireless phone companies, who are much less regulated.
It's pretty fucking simple. Your fucking stupid and easily controlled. So I see why you have a problem understanding.
bcfd88 No.14004354
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>>14004350
>who the fuck is doug walker?
f14c83 No.14004357
>>14004350
Government provisions for broadband internet exist under the Rural Electrification Act so without NN the internet is more or less governed by the same rules as energy suppliers. Juet replace the U.S. Department of Energy with the FTC
f335ef No.14004359
>>14004263
>>Wolfenstein 2 flopped
>I'm going to need evidence for that.
Okay, how about this.
http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/11/17/wolfenstein-ii-and-the-evil-within-2-sales-bethesda/
https://venturebeat.com/2017/11/16/wolfenstein-2-the-new-colossus-and-the-evil-within-2-sales/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/npd-october-2017-shadow-of-war-1-sw-nintendo-switch-1-hw.6580/
And, according to SteamSpy, it only sold 350k copies on Steam (compare that to NuDoom's 2.5 million copies). It doesn't help that the PC version was a mess at launch, lots of user reviews mention crashing and performance issues.
656621 No.14004372
>>14004263
>durr how do i steamspy im a retarded anime poster :D
b31431 No.14004373
>>14004350
>who the fuck is doug walker
At least a positive about [CURRENT YEAR], nobody cares anymore about Channel Awesome hacks. But then again Pissed Pedro still exists.
1d303a No.14004387
>>14004232
>mlp is ending.
You do realize that there's a Gen 5 and another shitty movie in the works, right?
656621 No.14004389
>>14004373
>But then again Pissed Pedro still exists.
He can't live for long on his 7 pesos.
bcfd88 No.14004405
>>14004389
I bet channel awesome might fire him for disliking the last Jedi
730c1c No.14004417
>>14004373
Todd in the Shadows is still good. Haven't paid attention to anyone else on there for years.
656621 No.14004420
>>14004417
>Todd in the Shadows is still good
You mean this retard? https://twitter.com/shadowtodd
a047a9 No.14004425
This should be pretty good for more salt.
>>14004417
>Todd "I have less respect for gamergaters than for nazis" in the Shadows
>Todd "I knew JewWario and you didn't so let me speak for a dead man against Gamergate" in the Shadows
>good
>in any way
End your life, my friend.
39af65 No.14004432
>fuck me harder comcast
shill
730c1c No.14004447
>>14004420
>>14004425
I honestly had no idea he ever got into political bullshit, I just watch his reviews and think they're entertaining. Sad to hear he's a bluepill though.
656621 No.14004448
>>14004432
What did she mean by this
bcfd88 No.14004449
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>>14004432
>Oh no
>how can the internet survive without net neutrality
>It’s not like the web was net neutrality free sense 2015
>Not like most pro net neutrality arguements was based upon a lie
bcfd88 No.14004451
>>14004370
>Black kid playing Basketball
Hmmm it’s like the democrats don’t care about black people because they blindly do what democrats want or something
a047a9 No.14004453
>>14004449
>he doesn't know
You fucking idiot, holy shit, I can't EVEN.
How did you forget that Barack Hussein Obama saved the internet in 2015 by slaying the dark beast known as the FCC?! DID YOU FORGET HOW WE USED TO PAY SEVENTEEN CENTS PER POST ON THIS SITE?!
YOU NEWFAG
1d45ef No.14004455
>>14004417
> Todd "defending pedo Srhbutts is one of the best moments in my life" intheshadows?
You gotta get better taste.
bb38d5 No.14004471
>>14004290
nigga just read the file name
39af65 No.14004474
>>14004449
the net was never net neutrality free you fuckin clown
731d60 No.14004487
The REAL flop this year is need for speed: payback.
It so beautifully flopped it barely made it to (((journalism))) websites. Consoletards of all people are calling it shit.
ccc36d No.14004489
Nothing wrong with MLP you faget.
6e7c80 No.14004495
>>14004313
>the rules were a standing guarantee that no Jewish tricks would be played
where?
bcfd88 No.14004496
>>14004487
There was a new need for speed game?
6e7c80 No.14004503
>>14004500
>tfw to smart too know that america is a republic and not a democracy
a047a9 No.14004507
>>14004500
It's all the fault of those Goobergaters and nazis for stopping African Americans from Pokemon GOing to the polls.
39af65 No.14004512
>>14004487
sorry but im just way more excited about ea getting a bloody nose, especially when it awakens so many to their fuckery, the best thing that can happen to this world is that people are not satisfied being ripped off.
so its pretty bonkers to see people happy about that but also happy about removing cable companies incentives to compete with superior services.
730c1c No.14004519
>>14004500
I didn't know that December 14 was opposite day.
905190 No.14004566
>>14004550
>>14004562
this meme is the fucking greatest. I can't wait to see what shit people come up with next that tops this one.
d3fe36 No.14004569
>>14004562
>the unedited nigger
My fucking sides.
c0b3f9 No.14004573
30adf8 No.14004580
>>14004573
>implying they don't already have it open in another tab
76dede No.14004587
>>14004495
admittedly sharing of infrastructure would be a good thing, allowing smaller ISPs to emerge instead of this weird fucking gerrymandering we have in the USA now.
cfc970 No.14004590
>>14004269
They'll probably fill it up with microtransactions but hey, looks like it could at least be fun.
656621 No.14004593
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>>14004562
I wonder if the dumb bitch of a mary sue at least learned to act after the first movie.
4eed02 No.14004595
>>14004566
The salt is certainly lovely, and burgers brought this upon themselves this past year.
8e0f43 No.14004602
>>14004232
This year was a constant flow of salt, only getting better.
>ending the year with a overflow of Reddit and e-celebs salt and desperation
>nuSW flopping, russians getting and alt-right getting the blame for it
Christmas came early
349982 No.14004640
>>14004638
wait, I thought I was on /tv/
656621 No.14004643
>>14004638
>women
>sag
Well duh
d3fe36 No.14004649
>>14004638
>womenfolk
Jesus fucking christ, I had never seen it used outside of angry twitter posts.
c0b3f9 No.14004652
>>14004640
That would explain why you're acting like a particularly retarded cuckchanner, then?
6ba3f6 No.14004660
>>14004498
If ever there was a mark of the beast.
bb6599 No.14004661
>>14004232
The year of the Fire Cock has been eventful indeed.
6e7c80 No.14004677
>>14004593
No, bigot much?!
How dare you expect of a woman to improve when she's already perfect because she has a vagina that she doesn't even use for what it was made for.
(^:
417705 No.14004678
>>14004269
At the very least this thing will be good for a pirate and co-op shenanigans.
ad4681 No.14004681
>>14004593
it remind me that the 1st time is aw the trailer i though t was a fanmade. i couldn t even imagin that a clone would be black… then a realise that stormtrooper post republic weren t only clone anymore… (and yet they all have the same voice)
c007d3 No.14004730
>>14004498
A moment of silence for this idiots
Self esteem,respect and man card
815f79 No.14004740
>>14004638
>Have been through this year
What have they been through this here?
a047a9 No.14004761
>>14004740
Someone that some women dislike winning a democratic election.
656621 No.14004767
>>14004740
They realize they can get attention after fucking their way to hollywood and "regretting" it.
b31431 No.14004784
>>14004730
nah fuck that just call him a faggot
bb6599 No.14004785
>>14004740
>What have they been through this here?
Muh pedowood producers and directors asking women to watch them masterbate in exchange for movie roles is sexual harassment and literally rape you guize!
Just forget about the fact all these hollyweird celebs knew about what was going on for fucking years and never told anyone.
417705 No.14004792
>>14004785
what? It's been a few months since I've last turned on my tv.
e30a6a No.14004803
>>14004573
that meme is D&C, but that mongrel miscgen is defo where it belongs pointed at.
outbreeding, not even once.
bb6599 No.14004820
>>14004792
I don't know how you could have avoided hearing about the Harvey Weinstein scandal, all the leftists wouldn't shut up about it.
869094 No.14004835
>>14004232
>MLP:FiM is ending
Is the nightmare finally over? Will the awful memories of me falling for this shit finally stop tormenting me?
2cd89b No.14004840
>>14004269
Looks better than I thought. Looks like you can actually do things even.
726708 No.14004853
>>14004638
>Women are awesome
t. insecure woman
815f79 No.14004854
>>14004785
That's celebs, not women in general. They seemed to be talking in a general sense for women everywhere.
>>14004761
People I dislike always win elections. They should be used to it by now too.
54c66a No.14004855
>>14004269
>Fox Engine
>Pure systemic gameplay
>Melee Weapons
>Coop
In this case the shitstorm is caused by a great game surpassing low expectations. If only they'd show some nice MonHun style fights against large bosses. Then we could finally accept Survive as the true successor to Peace Walker.
2cd89b No.14004858
>>14004321
Where the hell is the video, I want to laugh.
4c9c75 No.14004872
>>14004269
Now I get it, it`s Metal Gear Souls. I don`t know why it took me this much to realize what this game is, I actually believed to be the coop MGS5 always needed, quite sad
656621 No.14004889
>>14004854
>not women in general.
You think lefties care about women in general?
7b2210 No.14004895
>>14004872
I want to hug Red Chaika.
6ac3e5 No.14004906
>>14004895
Red Chaika is not for hug, she is for fug.
815f79 No.14004918
>>14004889
Obviously not, or they'd be trying to do something of value. It's just a new avenue to gather power, social signal and remove opponents for lower people and cause division among the sexes for the higher people.
905190 No.14004933
>>14004855
I agree. Survive looks unexpectedly fun, but I'm not going to get excited about it since I've seen games that looked great be massive piles of dogshit come release. Still, it's a nice surprise.
c091c5 No.14004944
>>14004835
Y-you too anon?
656621 No.14004946
>>14004933
>games that looked great be massive piles of dogshit come release.
Like mgs v 5?
e2cad0 No.14004953
>>14004262
>for some reason
It's not like the marketing results revealed a sizeable male demographic or anything. Of course you'd have to be of a particular persuasion to sacrifice air time to appeal to boys when it was supposed to be an IP for girls, but boy oh boy did those balance sheets look appealing!
417705 No.14004968
>>14004946
I don't think there are 55 metal gear games anon.
656621 No.14004971
>>14004965
I don't get this face.
7b2ab7 No.14004976
>>14004968
He was talking about version 5 of Metal Gear Solid, not Metal Gear Solid 55.
3098b0 No.14004979
>>14004976
>first pic
>transparent sky
For what purpose?
6e7c80 No.14004981
>>14004855
>there will never be a peace walker remake on fox engine
>you will never see the big AI weapons hangar, US missle base, mine base, the beach the jungles and ravines or mountain path to Irazu
207030 No.14004988
Oh shit yeah, Star Citizen could finally turboimplode and have all of the Cult's hopes, dreams and expectations be seized by a bank.
13a758 No.14004995
>>14004281
Each claim is 20 million. And there are nearly 20 claims.
It's 400 million dollars on Dick Masterson's head.
a2d2ce No.14005005
>>14004432
Being so triggered over pajeet succees is retarded. It's the fucking internet. Nobody, NOBODY can successfully block sites without shutting them down IRL. There are always mirrors, proxies and on. The only thing providers can do is restrict your band, and guess what, that's what they have been doing from the start, you pay for a given bandwith and that's it.
The whole net neutrality thing was nothing but a social test: whoever started screaming at nothing like a fucking retard failed. No worries, here you have the consolation prize.
869094 No.14005017
>>14004944
It was before I realized that MLP is nothing more than a shitty American moe show but with horses and I can get the same but better and far less autistic by watching anime.
905190 No.14005024
>>14004971
It's the face of an entity that has become a mutt, been niggered or stuff generally along those lines.
c92d3e No.14005056
>>14004976
>tfw no good facehugger porn
b31431 No.14005062
>>14005056
Do you really want to be facefucked by a facehugger, anon?
656621 No.14005065
>>14005062
What do you think?
815f79 No.14005105
I find the insistence that the destruction of net neutrality, which gives more more control into corporations hands that are trying to wipe us out and cause another was, that's been so aggressively pushed as a good thing around here a very interesting phenomena. I wonder what the percentage are that are useful idiots or shills trying to form the narrative, the same as they did trying to push that censorship was okay earlier this year and last year.
000000 No.14005114
>>14005017
>anime
>less autistic than mlp
207030 No.14005116
>>14005105
How about you take the pseudo-intellectual cock out of your mouth and tell me why you think "net neutrality", in it's current form was even a good thing?
3cb9a4 No.14005125
The only thing we must do now is to ban soy products so it won't create another legion of soy boys.
34d0c1 No.14005134
>>14005017
>I can get the same but better and far less autistic by watching anime.
Better?Yes. Less autistic? Hell fucking no, it's waaay more autistic, just less cringe inducing.
bc18f1 No.14005172
>>14005105
There 400 pages worth of regulation with only 4 that I can agree with. a good portions of those charters are link to NDAA. what you still think it only 19 pages?
869094 No.14005177
>>14005134
The autistic in a better way.
815f79 No.14005180
>>14005116
More insults? Typical. How about anything that helps the corporations fucking us in the ass is a bad thing. Corps need less power and less monopolies not more.
But to be specific, now corps can charge what they like and force companies to pay them more for better service, instead of forcing everything equal. This installs another hardcap for new tech companies to compete with the already big enough giants like facebook and netflix and others that can afford it. It also allows the ISPs to throttle sites they don't like, like this one. What happens when we got a shit connection bad enough to the point where its as bad as it was when we were waiting for next to come out and every post could take up to 5 minutes to post or to fail? You think jims gonna pay extra?
How about the fact that corps are always hardcore leftist companies that have been known to favor their political side and censor wrongthink. Is it so insane to wonder whats gonna happen to sites that don't have the right opinions as far as ISP corps are concerned?
But i'm sure not wanting your enemies who have been censoring you and abusing you forever, who have monopolies in america and you're forced to use one fucking ISP in your region, being given even more power over you is pseudo-intellectual bullshit cause reddit doesn't like it. Hey I heard reddit likes anime too, should we shit talk anime now too?
656621 No.14005181
>>14005180
I've seen that spacing before.
815f79 No.14005188
>>14005181
Yeah, it's called paragraph spacing. If you passed highschool before common core existed you might have learned about it.
207030 No.14005192
>>14005180
>this shitmess of a post
>this spacing
>while his entire point is explained in the first sentence, and everything else is his butthurt or hyperbole
Yep. Pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
815f79 No.14005197
>>14005192
Yeah, that's what I thought, you've no defense. Go shove 20 centimetres of wood up your ass.
b95730 No.14005199
>>14004602
>Nu Star Wars flopping
It made more than 400 million shekels over the weekend, anon. As shitty of a movie it may be, normalfags still went out in droves to see it.
c92d3e No.14005208
815f79 is gay. Give me your (You)s instead.
905190 No.14005209
>>14005180
Here friend, I have a great suggestion of a website you will enjoy. It's filled with people just like yourself, all of which will satisfy your needs. It's a wonderful place that I'm sure you'll like.
>>>/reddit/
For both of our sake, please remain there for as long as you draw breath.
824409 No.14005217
815f79 No.14005222
>>14005209
>>14005208
And yet none of you have a reason for why it's a good thing corps are being given more power over americans, when we've seen what they do to americans. I'm either surrrounded by retards, shills or niggers. I miss the anons who used to be here before you faggots. They were better men.
2b82a4 No.14005224
>>14005208
>815f79
>calling out ID's
You messed up Rabbi. Go get anodda IP and try again.
>>14005209
Give us some of the benefits a net neutrality free country would have. What in that anon's post would you deem false in terms of a typical company's political attitude?
656621 No.14005226
>>14005224
lol
faggot
hahahah
haaaa
2d30be No.14005227
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>>14004350
>worked well for land line phone companies
We should have different laws for internet companies though anon, no one uses the phone anymore. Not a fucking Wild West but clearly different laws. I don't think anyone was making big money and memes off the telephone, that was part of radio.
207030 No.14005228
>>14005208
(you)
>>14005222
Reddit, please, just stop, Jesus Christ, this is embarrasing.
207030 No.14005232
Also, I'm sure the internet was awful before 2014, my fellow nut naturality supporting redditors.
905190 No.14005235
>>14005224
>>14005222
Those ebil corps xDD aren't going to fucking throttle you because they can just throttle netflix and google. You already pay for your internet rates, and you take significantly less than the megacorps who pay basically less than you because of bulk. The FCC already shits on corps taking advantage of people with the internet in this way. All you have to do is look at how much screeching at nothing the left is doing. They're corporate fucking puppets, have been since at least 1995. You really want to side with them? You want to side with the people who say a fucking pajeet in the FCC who pulled this is part of the alt-right?
Retard.
e4bc7d No.14005236
>>14005235
Except netflix faked being throttled, nigger.
9dab34 No.14005240
>>14004370
I wish dreams came true.
905190 No.14005245
>>14005236
Yeah, whoa, real fucking critical to my point.
2d30be No.14005247
>>14005236
He's agree with you though anon.
89aefe No.14005251
>>14005105
>those fucking "sentences"
Learn how to write, you stupid nigger.
2b82a4 No.14005253
>>14005232
Yes, and I am sure in the calm political climate similar to 2014 leftist companies shall surely remain unbaised and unprejudiced as they have been lately fellow internet nazi!
>>14005235
>le leftisits will nebber abuse der powers XD
I can't believe this is what some anon's actually believe. You think most ISP can't set up a list of non kosher websites to throttle into oblivion now this safeguard is revoked? You think a pajeet has the average white American's best interests in mind? Hey, at least you can keep posting cute animals on instagram, nigger.
905190 No.14005258
>>14005253
I distinctly remember the daily stormer getting fucking de-platformed for months before this happened. Tell me again why I should fucking care.
207030 No.14005259
>>14005253
>the companies will remove you from the internet now!!!
>n-no, they haven't already been doing this, you're wrong
815f79 No.14005260
>>14005228
So you know, anyone with sense will just ask themselves the same question I asked up there. Why does giving corps more power over anons and americans help anyone? The same corrupt corps that hate said americans. As well as their blatant censorship happiness, ultra sjw leftist pushes and scumminess, any extra power to an ISP corp is bad for americans and others, especially when their throttling is another glass ceiling making it harder for new companies to overtake the older better ones as well as their monpolies over regions in america, forcing americans to often use one ISP whether they like it or not. How will a new company overtake youtube when they can't afford the same speeds as youtube? Why give corps the power to do it, even if they claimed they wouldn't? These are very basic questions any anon should be asking themselves instead of shitposting and going along with some consensus opinion here because "reddit hates it! So we like it!" Since when did reddits stances form our opinions? When did critical thinking become a bad thing?
>>14005235
I don't support it because it gives the people fucking me and other anons and americans over more power over us. I don't give a fuck about reddits opinion on it. Since when did 8chans opinion on events center around how reddit feels and stop there? And the difference between the sjw netflix that had that black people dealing with white racism bullshit show and other ultra sjw shows is netflix can afford the better bandwidth and connections, netflix theoretical future replacement company/start up wont be able to. The same way ISPs have created a monopoly with litigation and control, they're now being allowed to tighten their grip and make it even harder for other companies to compete with established companies so the status quo stays the status quo. Who's gonna replace youtube when they got a 1/4th the speed and bandwidth as youtube cause they're not rich enough to afford the big shit or refused because youtube is controlling the narrative these big corps are pushing and this new site is a free speech site? Why do you want corporations more power over your life and options?
2d30be No.14005268
>>14005260
> The same corrupt corps that hate said americans.
anon they don't hate them personally, they just want cash. they also pay off the politicians, so using the government gives them the power of the law in the longer term.
87ad12 No.14005269
>>14004262
It is a huge gamble form Hasbro's part, it is literally the only thing that gave them money consistently since transformers and littlest pet shop didn't sell, apart from ponies the only other profitable thing they had were the Disney princesses ( formerly by Mattel).
We are talking sub Lalaloopsy levels of popularity here.
905190 No.14005270
>>14005260
Tell me where I said you should base your feelings around reddit, dumbass. Where did I even mention it except in a suggestion of where you should park your brain-damaged faggotry? You think the internet just appears out of thin air, and ISPs have a general control on it because lol UUNET magic?
This is nothing new.
269d40 No.14005271
>>14005260
The government aren't going to be your friend either.
In the end, the internet is going to shit, might as well kill it.
000000 No.14005272
>>14004232
>>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
You mean bronys REALLY watched it?
I thought they are like /v/ and videogames.
e6e607 No.14005273
>>14005253
>he thinks net neutrality are the laws that are suppose to prevent ISPs from throttling site
Oh sweet winter break child.
207030 No.14005280
>>14005260
Here's a question without spending two hundred words on inane self-fellating bullshit.
Why didn't the big corporations fuck you into the grave before 2015?
6e7c80 No.14005288
>>14005116
because reddit hivemind told him so.
And they're never wrong, besides it cas signed by chief obongo so it's obviously good and you're a racist if you disagree.
2b82a4 No.14005304
>>14005258
You're correct. They will always start with the most extreme and work their way down. This revoked safeguard will allow them to throttle and websites who's hosts don't play ball.
>>14005259
>things I haven't said will somehow beat me in this argument
Try tumblr if this is too hard for you, oh wait, thats where you came from.
>>14005273
There are court rulings and 1st amendment arguments that individuals could use if they had the time, resources and drive to do so. But that was a safeguard. Unless you hold the position that leftists in charge of ISPs wont order sites like this throttled.
815f79 No.14005306
>>14005268
>They don't hate them
Fuck you, they've been pushing nonstop interracial bullshit, hate whitey, it's time for a new people bullshit for ages. Suddenly they just want money? That's some next level bullshit.
>>14005270
>muh reddit
>muh reddit
>go to reddit
btw, here's your post on it, >>14005209 I suppose I should just ignore that one too.
>this is nothing new
It gives them legal power to throttle and stifle the competition, and considering how many corporations have been shown to censor people with the wrong opinions and control narratives as well as support their own sides with blatant nepotism, i'd rather not give them further legal ability to fuck over people. Why do you want corps to have even more ways to fuck over people and accrue power?
>>14005271
Yeah, the one revolutionary tech that has allowed freedom of speech to prosper like never before and is the one big game changer in the genocide of whites in the west is just shit now, might as well kill it and rely on the news and radio to talk, what could go wrong?
>>14005280
Before 2015 people weren't trying so hard to save their countries and fighting back against the massive corruption of the social justice community. In fact, they got their big start in 2014 it seems. Things have changed.
2d30be No.14005314
>>14005306
>they've been pushing nonstop interracial bullshit, hate whitey, it's time for a new people bullshit for ages
that's (((them))) anon, not corporations in general.
e6e607 No.14005320
>>14005306
>Fuck you, they've been pushing nonstop interracial bullshit, hate whitey, it's time for a new people bullshit for ages.
Those are kikes, the same kikes that benefit from net neutrality because they get more shekels out of it. You should understand that the hebrew is mostly in the top lairs.
207030 No.14005331
>>14005306
>Before 2015 people weren't trying so hard to save their countries and fighting back
>somehow the corporation jews who are only in it for money and boipussy will fuck you harder because of this
>instead of the government jews, which took your country down the drain
6fafc7 No.14005332
So you fags are all going to ignore that cuckchan is against net neutrality?
2d30be No.14005337
>>14005332
>caring what cuckchan thinks
815f79 No.14005344
>>14005314
Oh yes, of course. (((THESE))) corporations being given more control over anons and a pathway of information are definitely not jews, despite jews always taking over lines of communication for propaganda. This time we can totally trust (((THESE))) guys cause reasons amirite? Let's just trust (((these corps))) with even more power cause they're definitely on our side this time. Naturally.
>>14005320
Really? Kikes benefit from net neutrality where everyone is equal, instead of having control over it where they can give their favored political party or fellow (((Men))) more control and privileges? apparently they've changed their tactics and fully embraced equality.
>>14005337
You all seem to care enough what reddit thinks and form your opinion on that.
>>14005339
>>14005337
You all using the same set of pics? That's really interesting. How much they pay you?
6fafc7 No.14005347
>>14005337
>>14005339
>caring about what reddit thinks
>caring about what jews think
269d40 No.14005350
>>14005306
>Yeah, the one revolutionary tech that has allowed freedom of speech to prosper like never before and is the one big game changer in the genocide of whites in the west is just shit now, might as well kill it and rely on the news and radio to talk, what could go wrong?
News and radio are shit too, to be honest.
The internet is precious, but the government nor the corporations care about it, heck, not even the end users care about it.
2d30be No.14005355
>>14005344
>jews always taking over lines of communication for propaganda.
The solution isn't to destroy capitalism anon, the solution is to gas the jews.
>>14005344
>You all using the same set of pics?
What's a meme anon?
e6e607 No.14005360
>>14005347
>caring
>>14005344
Sorry, mate. Soros pays those that are for net neutrality. I played myself by having a head.
>implying I even have stakes in this shit
899ef4 No.14005361
>>14005260
You're a fag who never looked into Title II beyond eceleb circlejerk videos. Title II classification is selective, ISP's do not have to abide by it. IF they choose to abide by it, the compromise is equally distributing to the people since they're considered a public service as a "common carrier". In return they receive immunity from anti-trust regulations, as long as they abide by that compromise while under Title II classification. (((They))) have always been able to legally package out the internet, they just wouldn't receive monopoly protections. Comcast already lobbies to protect their areas of influence to keep out competition and under Title II this is made entirely legal. Obama's FCC lawyers admitted under oath that it does exactly that So tell me why Title II, which is what was repealed, a good thing to have.
2d30be No.14005362
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14005350
>radio
No one uses it, it would be less shit if more people had transmitters and didn't depend on advertising up the ass.
815f79 No.14005378
>>14005350
Which is my point. It's only the anon and a few common men who give a shit about it, the same way only a few men cared about freedom in the americas when america staged their revolution from britain. Every attempt on the one tech we have to rebuff and outmaneuver the people trying to censor and control us should be taken. I don't give a fuck reddits opinion on this, I give a fuck it gives corps blanket control to sabotage or help their (((chosen))) affiliates, when the law before demanded all sites be treated equally which allowed sites like this one and others predicated on free speech to compete. Imagine if we had times like next all the time, constantly waiting to post and sometimes fail, how long would 8chan last with no fix in sight? Even if it theoretically might not happen, why give jews the ability to legally do it to you? It's idiotic and insane.
>>14005355
>destroy capitalism
Communism aint my thing dude. Go back to your cat eared tranny with a cock.
>Whats a meme anon
pipuko with a bat.
>>14005361
First of all, source?
Second, even in your own paragraph, it opens them to anti-trust regulations, which is huge, whereas now they have blanket ability to do it. The change once again gives corps ISPs MORE POWER. And the same fucking question i keep ASKING and NO ONE ANSWERS!
WHY IS IT A FUCKING GOOD THING TO GIVE THE JEWS FUCKING US IN OUR ASSES MORE POWER? Why do NONE of you answer this basic question i'm repeatedly asking?
57c81b No.14005381
>>14005361
I want to deflower and impregnate Gilda.
83fe41 No.14005383
lol why is everybody taking Internet so seriously?
ddb42e No.14005388
>>14005383
Because they're autistic.
2d30be No.14005390
>>14005378
>Communism aint my thing dude. Go back to your cat eared tranny with a cock.
Anon are you retarded? I said don't become a fucking communist like /leftypol/fags. Gassing the jews is the only way and you shy away from it in favor of government control for some reason, when until you gas the jews they will also break the government.
>anti-trust
ANTI-TRUST BOARDS THAT THE JEWS CONTROL, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW AN ANTI-TRUST SUIT? DISNEY BOUGHT FOX FOR FUCK'S SAKE
e6e607 No.14005393
>>14005378
>he thinks the only thing besides capitalism is communism
Well memed, comrade.
269d40 No.14005395
>>14005378
Give a shit to do what, exactly?
Net neutrality means more power to the government.
No net neutrality means more power to the government.
It's a shit choice in the end.
Everything comes to an end, to be rebirth, that's what should happen to the internet, let it be burned out so (((they))) can move onto other things.
269d40 No.14005397
>>14005395
>No net neutrality means more power to the corporation*
2d30be No.14005399
>>14005395
nice spacing anon
815f79 No.14005421
>>14005390
>Gassing the jews is the solution
Because one anon taking on a massive corrupt empire will def work. Well, in the meantime i'm gonna fight to protect my freedom of speech at least, you can keep memeing about how you're totally going to do it one day and use it as a defense when anons try to defend what rights they have.
>Control anti-trust boards
The difference is breaking said laws shows blatant corruption which many people on the internet pay attention to when it concerns them. The changes allow them to do this fucked up shit LEGALLY. Very big difference. Now its explicitly okay.
>>14005395
Net neutrality means they need to control themselves and not be too blatant, no net neutrality means its free time at the buffet. There's a difference between them usurping the law and the law supporting them.
1e121e No.14005422
How can anyone argue in favor of no NN?
269d40 No.14005425
>>14005421
Net neutrality doesn't protect your ass from being banned by facebook, twitter or any private firm.
One wonders what the heck does net neutrality even does, aside from keeping prices for internet low?
815f79 No.14005433
>>14005425
I've literally pointed this out before already. Multiple times. Why do you argue like a fucking kike never conceding a point thats already been made and shown?
269d40 No.14005439
>>14005433
Maybe because your point isn't convincing.
Net neutrality does not in fact protect freedom of speech, your privacy or anything.
2d30be No.14005440
>>14005421
> one anon taking on a massive corrupt empire will def work. Well, in the meantime i'm gonna fight to protect my freedom of speech at least, you can keep memeing about how you're totally going to do it one day and use it as a defense when anons try to defend what rights they have.
>one anon
ALL OF US AT ONCE FAGGOT, WHAT IS THE DAY OF THE ROPE?
>>Control anti-trust boards
>The difference is breaking said laws shows blatant corruption which many people on the internet pay attention to when it concerns them. The changes allow them to do this fucked up shit LEGALLY. Very big difference. Now its explicitly okay
>breaking laws
>people care
They haven't cared about being jewed by high rates for the past twenty years anon. America's speeds are shit compared to the rest of the world. The only reason its coming out now is because some jews in the megacorps of Google and Amazon want to keep their discount pricing while other jews want to push it on to them, but also screwing over everyone else. So it's a gay shilling campaign on both sides.
A decentralized internet is the only solution
265f8b No.14005442
>>14004281
>madcucks.gif
That ain't Madcucks, the real Madcucks is funny. That's just bald old George Orangutang.
34d0c1 No.14005449
>>14005422
When comcast, the biggest violator of net neutrality is for 'net neutrality', sets of alarm bells for me.
e802d5 No.14005450
>>14004496
Yeah. It got drowned out by Battlefronts worse loot box controversy and because it's Star Wars. It's a game where you can't buy parts normally. You have to use a literal slot machine to get parts. Here's the thing. The scaling of the quality of parts levels goes up the higher the level of car you are driving in. So to make your car better you buy from the in-game store or roll for parts.
Even if the part doesn't have the effects you want, if it makes your cars level higher, it's best to equip it so you get better quality parts with your next roll. Then you've got the fact that to progress you have to use certain cars to participate in them. I think 4 in all and you have to upgrade to a new car later because the one you have will likely be capped and you need one a car that can match closely to the level of the races difficulty and the last few circuits are a pain that you'll need every upgrade you can to beat it because of the rubberbanding mechanics.
You can cheat by crashing the main enemy car and hope the AI fucks up but eventually, the level of the car will matter. It's possible to beat with in-game money (which they updated to give more since the original amount you got was too low) and the free scrap (not sure what it is called) you get from races. It takes 3 scrap to roll one slot so if you plan it poorly, or you get really bad rolls, you'll either have to grind a race, exchange crap cards or pay with actual money to earn extra scrap from shipments to get a chance at rolling for better parts. It's one of the worse Need for Speeds ever.
e6e607 No.14005451
Whatever, amerilards can break their own heads. I don't have that shit and everything is bretty good.
>>14005433
>not putin on the collar
Hope she has a benis to compensate.
815f79 No.14005464
>>14005439
Go shove a dreidel up your ass. All my points made have been valid, you just keep ignoring them and trying to pretend giving corps more power over companies and people is a good thing.
>>14005440
Nice try FBI.
>They haven't cared
I have.
>Americas speeds
You don't get it or you're intentionally not getting it. This is further ability to damage either competition, which will likely start up as a free speech alternative, like in cases of a youtube alternative now that they're censoring free speech on the site hardcore, or it will be used as a threat for companies that don't play by the ISPs new rules. There are so many issues with giving jews even more power over people in this situation and making it legal to do so, it boggles my mind how you or any of the others support it, unless you're either shills, kikes or fucking consensus following retards.
27213c No.14005467
>>14005449
You ever wonder if they just don't know what they're doing? I usually attribute stupidity before kikery.
2d30be No.14005469
>>14005451
that's another thing, ameritards think they're the center of the world. major online companies wil startingl moving their servers to places with lower prices if they start getting gouged, and lobby the government to change international digital content laws. not every country follows america blindly, this isn't the fucking 90s anymore.
>>14005464
>I have.
one anon, wow.
>You don't get it or you're intentionally not getting it. This is further ability to damage either competition, which will likely start up as a free speech alternative, like in cases of a youtube alternative now that they're censoring free speech on the site hardcore, or it will be used as a threat for companies that don't play by the ISPs new rules. There are so many issues with giving jews even more power over people in this situation and making it legal to do so, it boggles my mind how you or any of the others support it, unless you're either shills, kikes or fucking consensus following retards.
THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES ANON WITH DIFFERENT LAWS. TRY ISSUING A DMCA NOTICE TO RUSSIAN TORRENTS.
Do you know what decentralization is?
815f79 No.14005475
>>14005469
WHY GIVE ANY CORP THAT HAS BEEN ABUSING YOU EXTRA POWER TO DO SO LEGALLY ANON! EXPLAIN WHY ITS A GOOD THING TO ME SINCE YOU LIKE IT SO MUCH. I'm waiting.
18f45d No.14005479
>>14005450
>You have to use a literal slot machine to get parts.
269d40 No.14005482
>>14005467
Not convincing enough.
They realize that with net neutrality, they can maintain their profit.
269d40 No.14005485
>>14005464
This is giving corps more power over the government, not the people though.
Everybody shit on the people.
e6e607 No.14005489
>>14005475
>When america is so far down the corporate shithole its crying out to the gov
Its just funny. You faggots can't even win.
ddaf68 No.14005504
>>14005489
American people get fucked either way.
2d30be No.14005526
>>14005475
>WHY GIVE ANY CORP THAT HAS BEEN ABUSING YOU EXTRA POWER TO DO SO LEGALLY ANON! EXPLAIN WHY ITS A GOOD THING
BECAUSE THE CORPS COLLAPSE AND THE COUNTRY COLLAPSES IF THEY FUCK UP TOO HARD, THEN YOU CAN KILL THEM FOR BEING JEWS
514f76 No.14005533
>>14005116
Here's what Net Neutrality is:
>Net Neutrality prevents ISPs from restricting traffic to particular services, meaning when you pay for internet access you are paying for the internet as a whole, what content you access is up to you.
Here's the situation as leftists perceive it:
>Getting rid of Net Neutrality would let ISPs restrict content unless you pay more for it, so for what you pay now, maybe suddenly all you can access is some basic shit the ISP approved of. Only a few sites. So maybe you can use Google/Bing, access Wikipedia, Amazon, Reddit, Facebook, Twitter some more shit like that. Want to access other online retailers? Gotta pay more. Want to visit other communities than Reddit/Facebook/Twitter? Gotta pay more. So the leftist concern is that ISPs will gouge and screw even harder than they already do, you'll be locked into a small selection of curated sites and if you want to browse whatever you feel like then you'll have to pay an exorbitant amount.
Here's the situation as we should be concerned about:
>Without Net Neutrality, ISPs will be free to block access to sites unless we pay more for it. But for some sites, like 8ch, or any other far right website, they can just block access flat out and not allow access to any of their customers, because they're hate sites.
<but muh free market! small ISPs will not throttle and will gain market share by catering to customers' desires!
Infrastructure is owned by large ISPs and by companies like Google. AKA, huge leftist capitalist conglomerates. Your small free market startup is still using their infrastructure and without net neutrality, the big ISP can still refuse access to unapproved sites and there's fuckall your tiny reseller can do about it. Big business is not your friend. Big business is overwhelmingly leftist, which is not an economic stance but a social one: it means globalism, semitism, and mass migration.
The problem, basically, is that it'll allow ISPs to just block access to 8ch in America. I give it about six months tops before there are no more Americans here.
ad3a24 No.14005537
>>14004370
I like this one more.
269d40 No.14005539
>>14005533
>But for some sites, like 8ch, or any other far right website, they can just block access flat out and not allow access to any of their customers, because they're hate sites.
I mean, that's what they can do already, with or without net neutrality.
It's a big reason why it doesn't really matter.
899ef4 No.14005541
>>14005378
article:
https://archive.is/0G7sI
legal precedents on free speech and monopolies:
https://archive.is/AHf3o
https://archive.is/nPTjs
https://archive.is/RRpwv
To answer your "basic" question moshie, I don't like government overstepping with regulation.
514f76 No.14005547
>>14005539
>I mean, that's what they can do already
They can't. Net neutrality has specifically prevented them from doing so. And it's the only thing that has stopped them from doing so, besides a general desire not to boil the frog too fast.
269d40 No.14005553
>>14005547
Oh please, stormfront fucking fried this year.
Where's NN preventing that?
Oh wait.
514f76 No.14005556
>>14005553
Stormfront was unable to find a domain name registrar willing to host them. That is a completely separate issue. Had they bothered to host outside the USA, Americans could still have visited their site (as is the case with 8ch). Without net neutrality, just hosting outside the USA (which you should be doing already) doesn't help.
d60170 No.14005557
>>14005533
>I give it about six months tops before there are no more Americans here.
Wait and see 8ch's quality skyrocket when it finally happens
2d30be No.14005560
>>14005547
>They can't. Net neutrality has specifically prevented them from doing so
how did cuckchan exist before 2015
269d40 No.14005561
>>14005556
So once again, NN can't help shit.
e6e607 No.14005569
>>14005560
>implying cuckchan exists to begin with
514f76 No.14005572
>>14005561
Simply host outside the USA. Problem solved. But without net neutrality, American ISPs will still block Americans from accessing your site even if you host outside the USA.
815f79 No.14005578
>>14005541
No, you just like when your fellow (((chosen))) is in control. I'm sure they're one of the based corporations though amirite? I can smell the cheap chest cologne from here.
2d30be No.14005581
>>14005572
>American ISPs will still block Americans from accessing your site even if you host outside the USA
Has that happened? Not a burger.
89aefe No.14005586
>>14005561
Why do you think google is so keen on "net neutrality"? They want to be the sole arbiters of what goes on the internet. They seized the Daily Stormer's domain and reddit cheered them on because weev made fun of their fat Charlottesville martyr.
04c0a8 No.14005589
>>14004248
>yeah but when's the race war?
It's called demographics, mister 56%
269d40 No.14005592
>>14005572
My question is more or less why the fuck can't net neutrality maintain actual neutrality?
I mean, if sites like TDS and Stormfront get killed within net neutrality framework, then all that efforts protecting it is worthless.
094d4f No.14005596
>>14005572
>Simply host outside the USA. Problem solved
That's actually a bad idea, just look at gab.ai, they got threatened by their domain registrar to shut down their site because of 'hate speech' on their site. Their domain registrar is located in Australia if your wondering.
514f76 No.14005597
>>14005592
Because net neutrality governs ISPs, not DNS providers. Lurk /tech/ before asking stupid questions.
899ef4 No.14005599
>>14005578
There's a balance of control and freedom when it comes to regulations. I'm sure you as an (((American))) appreciate government dictation of approved and equal sources. We should also ban things that people use to do bad things as well. oh wait
815f79 No.14005607
>>14005596
There was also the german dude who hosted cock.li. The german gov ended up confiscating one of his servers then came back for the other.
>>14005599
There is a massive difference between ISPs overstepping their bounds and being forced to play by the rules or when they break said rules, being subversive about it, and just being given free reign to do what the fuck they want. You're calling me a jew, and yet you're very supportive of the corps who are predominantly owned by jews being given full legal control over how to treat sites and a great deal of additional power. I suppose it's just a coincidence tho.
2d30be No.14005612
>>14005597
>DNS providers
Aren't domains ultimately controlled by the UN?
e6e607 No.14005613
>>14005596
I idea is not to host in a pozhole. Thats the whole point of not hosting in america.
815f79 No.14005616
>>14005612
I believe so, now that obama gave them control from america.
269d40 No.14005619
>>14005597
Bullshit excuse, they don't care about laws, they can just shut your ass down to hate speech.
514f76 No.14005623
>>14005612
They are now.
>>14005619
They do care about laws, but now that law is gone.
e6e607 No.14005628
>>14005623
Tell that to Google, Faceberg and Twitter.
094d4f No.14005636
>>14005613
You. Don't. Get. It.every other country is a pozhole tier with it's free speech laws.
2d30be No.14005645
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14005623
> but now that law is gone.
Let's storm into Congress and change the laws.
3e41dd No.14005650
819069 No.14005651
>>14005612
Only certain TLDs (.com, .org, .net, etc.). Country-specific TLDs are controlled by these countries. And there are also things like OpenNIC.
deab19 No.14005653
>>14004232
>Will 2018 top 2017
upcoming fake alien invasion might get interupted by real aliens shitposting in the sky. Mark my post…. not shitting you.
4ba66e No.14005654
>>14005607
>The german gov ended up confiscating one of his servers then came back for the other.
when was this
2d30be No.14005659
>>14005654
Last year(?) There was a big drama about the e-mails being compromised, I'm not sure why you would host in Germany of all places.
95d31d No.14005667
bb6599 No.14005671
>>14005557
Truly this is the best timeline.
2d30be No.14005676
>>14005667
>businessinsider
Business news just reports the information that EA provides to investors to pretend they aren't failing, and the investors don't know any better.
815f79 No.14005682
>>14005654
>>14005659
They were fun when they first came out during the redchan.it event, but other than meme emails for shitposting purposes, anons shouldn't have been using them seriously imo.
4ba66e No.14005692
>>14005682
is there a decent email provider still out here? I use cockmail for random shit, and a jewgle as sparingly as possible
2d30be No.14005695
>>14005692
Isn't there that Swiss one that CERN runs?
4ba66e No.14005707
>>14005695
according to quick search, cern service is provided by lync, a microsoft service with skype integration
you can make your own judgement on that
f2b196 No.14005762
>>14005105
Its a long story but "net neutrality" (the law) through a very roundabout way Obama's NDAA(2017) gave the whitehouse the ability to revoke an isps broadcasting license if they refused to take down a website deemed "propaganda" (either foreign or domestic) effectively bypassing 1st amendment protections with no legal recourse or appeals process. Common carrier isn't magic immunity to interference to the net, it just gives it to partisans rather than shekelgrubbers.
2d30be No.14005768
Let's save the internet anons.
919b6e No.14005781
>>14005768
I'm kinda busy with not playing video games.
9c8ea8 No.14005788
>>14004263
>AAA title shipping less than 900k in the first month isn't a flop
e15c03 No.14005887
>>14004263
Trust me, it flopped
056a28 No.14005894
>>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
THE. RIDE. NEVER. ENDS.
61998d No.14005903
>>14005776
>still trying to force memes
3c141d No.14005972
>>14004232
>MvCI flopped so hard it put a dent on Capcom as it died
>Capcom's ship is sinking
>Disney took a beating with Star Wars and SJW Marvel ruining everything
c1444b No.14006001
>>14004250
>>14005894
Apparently G5 of My Little Pony will be more CURRENT YEAR-friendly. They're taking the country farmer horse and remaking her into an underprivileged minority city slicker because they're uncomfortable with little girls having farm playsets or something.
61998d No.14006005
>>14005957
it'll never work, avi
58781a No.14006028
>>14004232
>>Wolfenstein 2 flopped
Bought the first one or got it as a gift don't really remember. Considered getting the second but then I saw a nig-nog fucking a German fatty in traditional dress in the trailer. It didn't piss me off it just made me feel tired so I played some Fallout NV and did a online course instead.
797536 No.14006079
>>14006005
You're right. America will never be white again, no matter how much you bully them.
2cd89b No.14006092
>>14005903
That's leftypol for you.
2cd89b No.14006128
d1b83a No.14006134
What is PUBG and why should I hate it?
f6b6d3 No.14006135
19c3a1 No.14006150
>>14006028
same, except it pissed me off, which was indeed their intent.
>want to sell something
>antagonize your potential customers
7fabb1 No.14006190
>>14006156
>Do we really need another zombie survival game?
Are they seriously saying that after 10 fucking years of getting that genre tired out?
Might as well keep going
50f81f No.14006212
>>14006159
0.18 Turkish lira has been deposited into your mediamatters account
7fabb1 No.14006233
>>14006212
America's butthurt only make the world's penis stronger
699a77 No.14006266
>>14005667
That's a shillpost.
>Against all odds, the new "Star Wars" game is a major hit.
>It's not clear how many copies of "Battlefront 2" were sold
2495f4 No.14006268
>>14006212
He's not a /pol/ mod though, that doesn't make sense.
a0c780 No.14006301
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>>14004350
>who the fuck is doug walker
Stay awhile and listen, and I will tell you a story…
eeebd6 No.14006332
>>14005533
>Realises free market isn't working because of cartel
>Cartel is mantained by state regulations
>Really, the legal cost to open an ISP, even a smal local one, are through the roof
>New Zealand is the size of OP's mom's buthole, and even there they have more ISPs than in the US, a fucking continental country
>Somehow arives to teh conclusion that leaving more responsibilities with teh state is the answer
NN is gonna be shit. We have it in Brazil since 2013. You never know that someone will read between the lines of NN to somehow allow some control they didn't had before. Now our ISPs are in a position that they "sadly" can't offer promotions and discounts they used to, since the law prevents such predatory practices of unfair competition. Of course who takes the bigger bribe gets to tell us what is unfair competition and what isn't. Even if NN doesn't go through that specific route, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightiest if something else as shitty or shittyer happened.
tl;dr: You should be campaigning for the deregulation of this market, not more regulations you dofus(es). Of course it's laced with good intentions, no bill was ever accepted with the title "Evil bill of evilness: by senator Lex Luthor".
e6e607 No.14006373
>>14005636
>he believes this
Its not so much about upholding the law as it is no one gives a shit. You really should learn more about the world outside of americlap
9823ac No.14006384
>>14004495
>In 2016 the FTC failed to bring AT&T to face charges for throttling iphone users on unlimited data plans, AT&T argued that they could because the contracts with iPhone users where filled before the Open Internet Order. also that they would be only subject to common carrier regulation when they where doing common carrier services instead of telecommunication services.
>the 9th circuit of appeals judged in favor of AT&T's later argument
>the whole purpose of the Open Internet Order was to classify telecommunications providers as common carriers
>they couldn't even enforce this
well why even bother when you burgers can't even follow your own fucking rules
4de825 No.14006394
>>14004405
Nobody likes the Last Jedi.
a0c780 No.14006417
>>14004740
>What happened?
This happened.
49dfa1 No.14006473
>corporate kikes trying to weasel NN away
>big angry threads on /v/ every time
>finally goes viral on the 17th attempt
>internet cliques/ecelebs latch onto it so they can twist out more anti-Trump memes
>this causes poleddit to pull an immediate 180 and grab for any excuse to be anti-NN they can find
What did the goyim mean by this?
bcfd88 No.14006489
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>>14004835
>Is the nightmare finally over? Will the awful memories of me falling for this shit finally stop tormenting me?
Now that mlp gen 5 going to be a action show markerted to be both girls and boys. What kind of fandom will we except here?
2ae2db No.14006496
>>14004370
>muh happy little turban girl
That's bullshit. Every little turban girl you see is being forced by their families to wear it outside. When school starts they just remove it and never step outside to play during recess in fear of being seen by relatives and neighbors. When school ends they wear it back or if they don't know how (since it involves putting it together with needles and shit) they ask a teacher they trust to help.
Trust me, my mom is a teacher at an elementary school and i'm kebab.
6e7c80 No.14006506
>>14006496
shut up, stop mansplaining, bigot. Burka is a symbol of empowerement and women who wear them do it to show how brave and stunning they are
ddb42e No.14006511
>>14006472
He looks like a Cuck Stefan Molyneux.
bcfd88 No.14006524
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>>14006511
>He looks like a Cuck Stefan Molyneux.
If you see him shirtless. He like the proto-soy boy. Skinny with large man tits.
edcf69 No.14006528
>>14004232
>Will 2018 top 2017 in terms of shitstorms?
Well the Star Citizen fiasco is finally heating up so I'm going to guess yes. Not to mention that the entire industry is about to take it up the ass over lootboxes.
>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
Is there any hope that the inevitable G5 MLP will return to the 80s style and theme? That shit was great, not as good as Care Bears but still pretty good.
5486ef No.14006543
>>14006496
I read a recent local news article recently about how muslim women are targeted using internet sites followed by men of local Moroccan and Turkish communities where they are kept track of and called whores if they wear make up or don't wear their turban, like some kind of /b/ for halal stalkers. This usually resulting in those women and their families being harassed or ostracized. The new feminist wave barely takes in consideration the personal family situations of muslimas. The muslimas who can speak out about the sexism in muslim communities are lucky enough to not live in one, else their face would get washed with acid.
6e7c80 No.14006545
>>14006513
>the faces of the wymyn
should women be considedred property of father/oldest brother/husband or severely mentally retarded people?
b31431 No.14006558
>>14006472
Fucker looks like he has cancer now
I can't say he doesn't deserve it though.
793f07 No.14006566
>>14004359
evil within 2 is actually good
it outsold wolfenstein 2 ;^)
dc9df5 No.14006674
>>14004232
>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
04bd58 No.14007008
>>14004232
>>MY little pony friendship is magic is finally ending
Realistically speaking bronies will be around as long as Trekkies did. If not longer thanks to bronies being so connected with their community. Keep in mind my little pony more profitable for hasbro than transformers and G.I. joe. That was unheard of before.
0908c7 No.14007049
I don't understand are we being raided by shills and leftypol? How people can be against NN if in principle it guarantees equal access to every resource currently available on the internet.
>b-but muh government control
What department has direct control over internet? To my knowledge only control government had over the internet is laws. And they enforced these laws either through FCC autisticly screeching or through whatever departments pressure site owners or site hosting providers over illegal content (CP, drug circulation etc).
Since I doubt anyone has any arguments against the later part (since, well, you've accepted that on principle by frequenting here), let's focus on FCC.
FCC was the one that forced internet into TII and in consequence created regulations tied behind that in 2015, but in january of 2017 Ajit Pai, that previously worked under Verizon communications, became an FCC chairman appointed by donald trump. And since that appointment FCC began its activity against the regulations, closed investigative cases against ISPs and generally started going back on net neutrality principles that it was for for 10 years at least. Like guys, are you fucking blind or retarded? Do you not understand that this is a conflict of interest and the side that you are supporting isn't there for you.
>b-but on practice government isn't on my side either
And that's why you are being retarded and taking side with corporations assuming direct control over the internet to screw you over with throttling and blocking access for money?
>b-but muh free market
Tell me what state do you live in, your ISP options in your region and $ to mbps deals they offer, all of that before and after NN. I bet it's going to be something like 1-2 providers asking 20$ for 10mbps month.
I just don't understand what kind of retardation we are dealing with here, since leftypol is ancom which in principle is against monopoly of power, uninformed usually aren't as vocal here and like shills flaws in their posts are usually pointed out by others long before they do massive damage. So who the fuck are these people?
094d4f No.14007126
>>14007049
Because it's only NN in name and does jack shit to protect consumers, censorship, and even the companies that should be against NN with their unethical practices are for NN. If the fuckers that want screw you over are for NN maybe, just maybe the legal interpretation of NN isn't what you think it is.
Make no mistake I like the concept of NN, it's just the way it's implemented has done jack shit for me, has potential to fuck me over in the future, and the companies to want to jew me want this version of NN makes me think this current form of legal NN is a bad idea.
e4dfd0 No.14007148
0908c7 No.14007222
>>14007126
But why are you taking sides? Absence of NN regulations enables companies to continue fucking you over instead of potentially fucking you over.
>even the companies that should be against NN with their unethical practices are for NN
>>And that's why you are being retarded and taking side with corporations assuming direct control over the internet to screw you over with throttling and blocking access for money?
I just don't understand why would one take such an unreasonable position instead of being neutral or actually proposing something productive.
>implying fcc's actions have done jack shit for you
Stopping ISPs from secretively blocking p2p services and throttling doesn't benefit you? What?
0908c7 No.14007251
>>14007244
Who are you and why are you supporting faggotry?
498a1a No.14007296
>>14006373
Tell that to the admin of cock.li, or endchan being hosted in France having to be subject to hate speech laws about the holocaust.
>>14007222
Read the NN law anon, it doesn't work. You need to replace it with something that does and can't be a redditor that cheers on when literally nothing was done. >>14004495
The companies were already fucking us over even with NN in place, since the (((government))) doesn't enforce it >>14006384 all it does in combination with national security laws is allow the government increased spying activities.
Also half the shilling for NN is due to Jewgle and Netflix not wanting to pay higher fees, they have the most to lose and the ISPs have the most to gain screwing them over and not the average person. The stopping censorship shit needs to be in the new law because NN did nothing for all the sites and users taken down due to being against (((progressivism))).
ae325f No.14007313
>>14005235
Except I fucking have had been throttled you double nigger. I dont know if you realize it, but Comcast, pre-NN throttled any and all torrent traffic because MUH PIRACY. You're a fucking idiot if you dont think this sudden push isnt just the ISPs of America, who've kept internet speeds in the fucking dark ages until very recently, trying to regain more control back over the internet. Why the fuck do you think Comcast keeps fucking saying "We wont throttle any lawful content" Becuase the fucking moment they are allowed to, they are going to go right back to throttling anyone and anything they think are pirates. Hell you're just a fucking retard in general if you think they aren't going to exploit their newfound "freedom" after they've pushed so hard to get it
6b633e No.14007373
>>14005957
>>14005776
>>14006124
>>14006159
You've all been played into dumping your mutt memes. Burgers secretly find it hilarious
>>14006473
>It's okay if it's gov fucks me
fuck you I'm taking the last word on this
>14007251
You're just mad that you didn't get a (you)
0908c7 No.14007406
>>14007296
>The companies were already fucking us over even with NN in place, since the (((government))) doesn't enforce it >>14006384
And that's why you are actively proposing for fucking you over? If fucking you over would be a concern then abolishing NN regulations that don't work wouldn't fucking matter. I don't understand your position.
>all it does in combination with national security laws is allow the government increased spying activities.
How exactly?
>censorship
Stop right there, the talk never was about censorship. It's about ISPs playing favors against competitor (to their own or through partnership) services or software and hardware.
>and not the average person
>implying average person didn't benefit from fcc's actions
Are you a shill?
I'm not interested in NN being flawed or not I need an answer for why are you not neutral or actually proposing something productive and you are not giving me one.
094d4f No.14007408
>>14007222
>I just don't understand why would one take such an unreasonable position instead of being neutral or actually proposing something productive.
But I am, the first step is to get the current form of it. It's toothless against the companies that's it supposed to regulate, and has potential to screw me more down line. The most obvious course of action is to get rid of it. With the "NN" and without the NN i'm fucked, just without the potiential of the government tightening the screws further if "NN" is gone. If want a 'productive suggestion' here it is:
Kill "NN" ()
Legislate a NN bill that makes both ISP and tech corps squirm, without the potenial of goverment abuse for censorship.(Not one motherfucker has drafted a replacement bill)
>Stopping ISPs from secretively blocking p2p services and throttling doesn't benefit you? What?
And what about preventing DNS providers killing websites because disagree with website's politics? Because that shit happened this fucking year.
0908c7 No.14007481
>>14007408
>Kill "NN" ()
>Legislate a NN bill that makes both ISP and tech corps squirm, without the potenial of goverment abuse for censorship.(Not one motherfucker has drafted a replacement bill)
But Net neutrality is currently being tarnished on principle in public. If NN is kill, there would be no better NN, because in public eyes why would you need NN when you and FCC already voted against it, it wouldn't make sense. And FCC that is currently corrupt knows it. This has no potential of becoming something productive, it will only make everything go back to the older rules of screwing you over.
>And what about preventing DNS providers killing websites because disagree with website's politics?
Non sequitur, censorship or political clash of libtards vs the world are nowhere close to the points of current discussion. Also, you've dodged the question.
254afe No.14007499
>>14007481
>But Net neutrality is currently being tarnished on principle in public. If NN is kill, there would be no better NN, because in public eyes why would you need NN when you and FCC already voted against it, it wouldn't make sense. And FCC that is currently corrupt knows it. This has no potential of becoming something productive, it will only make everything go back to the older rules of screwing you over.
All of this shit being referred to as network neutrality is a jewish trick in the first place. No one voted against network neutrality. They voted against Title II. Anyone who refers to it as network neutrality is either a shill or a retard, and you're one of them.
0908c7 No.14007565
>>14007499
>"No one voted against network neutrality. They voted against Title II."
>Thread is full of people that are against NN.
>Only one other post that refers to Title II instead of NN
>FCC promotional material itself focuses more on abolishing NN instead of reorgonizing the regulations to exclude T II without harming NN principles they've tried to implement for years
>"No one voted against network neutrality. They voted against Title II."
>calling someone a shill or a retard
How does it feel speaking lies?
094d4f No.14007651
>>14007481
> This has no potential of becoming something productive, it will only make everything go back to the older rules of screwing you over.
Still better than the alternative if it doesn't work out. Your suggestion is to keep a regulation that it is toothless against the corps to keep them in line, and allow more goverment overreach against citizens. My suggestion has the corps being just as powerful as they were under the regulation (being completely unaffected by title II) but without the government overreach. It's still pretty bad, just one less bad thing to worry about.
>censorship or political clash of libtards vs the world are nowhere close to the points of current discussion
But is my point you dense motherfucker, you just don't want to fucking talk about it because it's a legitimate grievance that undermines your stance. Title II which was originally for phones, gave way to to title III which allows the government to wiretap people. You really want to go down that fucking slippery slope?
254afe No.14007655
>>14007565
>quoting someone using the built in quote function but adding quotation marks around the quote anyway like some faggot that hasn't been on imageboards for ages
>thread is full of retards and shills
>only one other posted who might be not retarded
>pretending TII is part of a larger thing that would have to be reorganized instead of a single bill that was repealed, and had to be removed to be able to replace it
>look mom I did it again
>getting your feefees hurt by being called retarded
How does it feel being retarded?
498a1a No.14007734
>>14007406
>>14007481
>If fucking you over would be a concern then abolishing NN regulations that don't work wouldn't fucking matter. I don't understand your position.
Because people will only change things when things get bad, anon. You can't put a bandaid over an infected leg and expect it to heal.
>How exactly?
Government regulation + National Defense Authorization Act of 2017 signed by Obama, means ISPs hosting sites publishing "propaganda" have to shut them down.
>Stop right there, the talk never was about censorship. It's about ISPs playing favors against competitor (to their own or through partnership) services or software and hardware.
ask the e-celebs that think that's what it's about.
>>implying average person didn't benefit from fcc's actions
>Are you a shill?
what did the FCC do besides lock internet prices in place because now the ISPs can't force Amazon, Google and Netflix to pay higher prices for their massive use of data? You can't just randomly block p2p communications without causing problems for businesses ((((Windows 10))) uses p2p for updating, for example) and throttling is gay but half of America has shit tier net anyway, they don't have much to gain from throttling Joe Redneck. They can throttle businesses, but that's just opening yourself up to a lawsuit, and defections to competition.
498a1a No.14007770
>>14007734
In fact, if they throttled competition, that would lead to an instant anti-trust lawsuit for anti-competitive practices and their regional monopoly would get shut the fuck down, that could lead to a legal precedent that would fix the internet since it would be such a blatant abuse of power.
0908c7 No.14007807
>>14007565
>>14007499
>FCC promotional material itself focuses more on abolishing NN instead of reorgonizing the regulations to exclude T II without harming NN principles they've tried to implement for years
To correct myself, FCC never literally states that it is against NN, because it switched concepts of free market (or monopoly of power from ISPs) with NN, to make the idea more marketable and to create a problem of communication between people. Which is probably the reason why e-celebs had problem communicating what NN is since in separate contexts they are completely opposite.
Buut >>14007655
>pretending TII is part of a larger thing that would have to be reorganized instead of a single bill that was repealed, and had to be removed to be able to replace it
you didn't need that correction, because you completely missed or deliberately misunderstood the point I was making.
For people that are not you and somehow ended up reading this post I'll reiterate:
Everywhere the problem was addressed as NN and NN regulations. If NN is broken down it would be unmarketable to bringing NN principles back, because NN is being tarnished.
0908c7 No.14007814
>>14007651
>It's still pretty bad, just one less bad thing to worry about.
Except now that FCC is corrupt no one is going to fight against throttling and blocking so you are going to end up in a worse situation than it was before.
>You really want to go down that fucking slippery slope?
No, I just want a clear answer why people would be seriously choosing between cancer and aids. Because those are the loudly expressed points.
Thus if this is directly related to the issue, how exactly current regulation allows… wait, hold on. Why did you jump from censorship to wiretapping?
>>14007734
>You can't put a bandaid over an infected leg and expect it to heal.
Exactly, so why it's NN that is the focus and not FCC getting infiltrated and losing all will to fight for the consumers?
>>>all it does in combination with national security laws is allow the government increased spying activities.
>>How exactly?
>Government regulation + National Defense Authorization Act of 2017 signed by Obama, means ISPs hosting sites publishing "propaganda" have to shut them down.
Why are you too jumping between censorship and government spying on you. Why you too can't be consistent with what you are trying to say? Is this a deliberate action?
>You can't just randomly block p2p communications without causing problems for businesses
>>14007770
>if they throttled competition
>implying that such things never ever happened
I repeat, are you a shill?
498a1a No.14007837
>>14007807
>because NN is being tarnished
Let's use a different name then anon!
>>14007814
>Why are you too jumping between censorship and government spying on you.
cause it does both.
>if they throttled competition
>implying that such things never ever happened
that was an argument by the NN side, that ISP being affliated with media companies would throttle netflix to protect cable
>I repeat, are you a shill?
No anon, I'm trying to fix this legal mess.
498a1a No.14007849
>>14007837
>>implying that such things never ever happened
actually fuck, misread you. but the thing is, it would create a public outcry because now people know about NN and its in public debate, in the past you didn't have the publicity of social media.
498a1a No.14007886
>>14007814
>why it's NN that is the focus and not FCC getting infiltrated and losing all will to fight for the consumers?
That's marketing and the whole NN bill shouldn't be being raped really, since you can modify existing law. It's just the whole argument between the normalfag camps in the public eye is complaining
>pro NN!
>anti NN!
and there's no fucking detail in their arguments making it a confusing clusterfuck. Normalfags don't understand tech anyway so they used this because it was easier to understand for them, but it made it so the ISPs could attack back by shooting at the bill and NN as an """"""Obama"""""" concept when really, it isn't. SInce we're here and not normalfags we really need to sort this out.
Prease understand anon the world is awful enough as is.
094d4f No.14007933
>>14007814
>Except now that FCC is corrupt no one is going to fight against throttling and blocking so you are going to end up in a worse situation than it was before.
What part of toothlessdo you not understand? Even with the title II the corps could just take the FCC to court and get their regulations thrown out because of some bullshit excuse. Without title II were at square one, with title II were at square one and the government now has power to shut down 'propaganda' sites. What part of this do you not understand? That the FCC is fucking useless in this shitstorm even if you attempt to give it power?
498a1a No.14007939
Unless P. Ajeet revokes this, it appears the FCC still enforces transparency laws on ISPs, this was pre-2015 NN actions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Communications_Inc._v._FCC_(2014)
>The FCC Open Internet Order 2010 established three orders on fixed and mobile operators of Internet access.
>Transparency
>This order was applied to both fixed and mobile operators. It requires them to publicly disclose accurate information regarding their network management practices, performance, and commercial terms of service.[7] This order was not vacated by the court.[5]
So you'll know if you're being shat on.
>The court vacated two parts of the FCC Open Internet Order 2010, determining that the FCC did not have the authority to impose these orders without classifying network providers as common carriers. Since the FCC had previously classified broadband providers as "information services" and not "telecommunications services," they could not be regulated as common carriers under Title II of the Communications Act of 1934. Therefore, the FCC Open Internet Order 2010 regulations, which could only be applied to common carriers, could not be applied to broadband providers.
We could petition to reclassify ISPs as telecom services since that's actually true and I have no fucking clue why the FCC classifies them as """information""" services.
Going to do more reading.
99c7ca No.14007942
>>14005533
>I copy pasted this from Reddit because I know that the Jews know what is best for us and I want to spread the good word.
Yeah ok pal. Now that net neutrality is gone it means that Google Faceberg Twitter etc can be held legally liable for 1A infringements. Why do you think they fought against this with everything they had?
498a1a No.14008020
>>14007939
Alright, so in the 2015 order the FCC decided that it would consider ISPs telecoms under an 80 year old section of their mandate that was written for radio, which is why it gives the government a retarded level of authority. The alternative is we need to get a bill through Congress saying that internet companies can't discriminate and throttle, and I'm pretty sure everyone in the States is for that, however Congress is full of fucking imbeciles.
498a1a No.14008033
>>14008020
>The Republicans were actually trying to start a new classification of Title IX in 2014.
damn
0908c7 No.14008039
>>14007837
>Let's use a different name then anon!
>now people know about NN and its in public debate, in the past you didn't have the publicity of social media.
It's impossible at this point, unless you take my points to heart and you are honestly striving for change, then do your job in making things better, everyone will appreciate it.
And people actually don't know what NN is about, because as I've stated here >>14007807
there was a deliberate action of switching the meaning to the complete opposite to create public debate impossible.
>>Why are you too jumping between censorship and government spying on you.
>cause it does both.
The concepts are not directly related, and answers related to them aren't exactly directly related. That's why even if there is some common ground between the too, I have a huge problem with you so easily jumping between them. With a concern I'm rising such simple answer just doesn't cut it.
>that was an argument by the NN side, that ISP being affliated with media companies would throttle netflix to protect cable
Are you implying that since it is just an argument and since exactly that didn't actually (I don't know and don't care if exactly that did or didn't happen) happen that it is not a valid concern, because you are
>implying that such things never ever happened
>It's just the whole argument between the normalfag camps in the public eye is complaining
The problem I'm having is that visually reasonable camp of anti NN regulations is or was absent in the current thread and
>Since we're here and not normalfags we really need to sort this out.
Exactly, and all I see is people that are concerned and are pro NN principle are getting ad hominemed to hell without almost anyone addressing their arguments directly. Or worse derailing conversations into other topics that don't tackle their arguments directly, which makes me awfully suspicious of shill activity.
>>14007933
>What part of toothless do you not understand?
Because its a non sequitor. FCC wasn't toothless and was doing the job until recently.
>Without title II were at square one
What part of
>Except now that FCC is corrupt no one is going to fight against throttling and blocking so you are going to end up in a worse situation than it was before.
do you not understand? It's not going to be a square one, it's going to be a square minus one.
>>14008020
To my knowledge, that retarded level of authority was never used, and there were works for creating advanced title II to specifically addressing the issue.
498a1a No.14008056
>>14008039
> there were works for creating advanced title II to specifically addressing the issue.
what I don't get is like, why aren't the NN people petitioning Congress to write a bill, to pass NN officially so P. Ajeet can't just break the internet for bad memes.
0908c7 No.14008096
>>14008056
Probably because FCC was the force that allied the NN camp in the first place. And now that FCC got corrupted, people got deliberately cut in half quarters not only on a basis of left (obama) and right (trump), but also on a plane of misunderstanding the concept of NN meaning two completely opposite things regulations and principle.
094d4f No.14008119
>>14008039
>FCC wasn't toothless and was doing the job until recently.
But it was, just look at >>14006384
>It's not going to be a square one, it's going to be a square minus one.
But that's wrong the FCC has just as much power against the corps as they did with title II powers, jack shit. Thus FCC having title but the gov can shut down 'propaganda' sites and the ISPs can still jew you is worse FCC has no title II powers and the ISPs can still jew you.
>>14008096
Can't you just fucking admit that the trying to enforce NN through title II is a terrible fucking idea?
498a1a No.14008127
>>14008096
>And now that FCC got corrupted, people got deliberately cut in half quarters not only on a basis of left (obama) and right (trump), but also on a plane of misunderstanding the concept of NN meaning two completely opposite things regulations and principle.
considering that the last FCC director was also a shithead, it seems like it might have been part of their master plan.
So basically we need to troll Congress, but Reddit is too shit at making that happen. The bill would literally say "ISPs can't cannot discriminate against traffic based on the data, source, or destination"and that would get everyone's support as long as we don't say the N words; also it's small enough to clip on to the budget or something. Or we could ask Trump to pass an executive order saying that it's in defense of freedom of speech, but that could be undone by the next guy.
498a1a No.14008143
>>14008039
Also the problem with Title II is that the courts shot down the FCC's attempt in 2010, and if the ISPs sued the FCC for using powers outside of its mandate they might have been shot down again which is probably why the FCC has been useless so far.
Basically we should never trust Reddit / normalfag campaigns and need to run the government here. Since they generate a lotta radio noise, celebrate non-victories and accomplish nothing long-term.
498a1a No.14008158
This is a good article about the anti-Title II people.
https://archive.fo/KjtAz
f1b126 No.14008171
>>14005677
All kikes will die, living in Germany won't save you.
0908c7 No.14008186
>>14008119
>>FCC wasn't toothless and was doing the job until recently.
>But it was, just look at
>2016
That's still recently. And also, FTC?
>But that's wrong the FCC has just as much power…
So we are not going to acknowledge that current chairman worked under a particular greedy ISP company? Then why would I
>admit that the trying to enforce NN through title II is a terrible fucking idea?
please, do tell me. I am all ears.
>>14008127
>considering that the last FCC director was also a shithead
Tell me more.
>Or we could ask Trump
We might have a problem here, current chairman was appointed by trump, so it might be a bigger play than it could be seen at the first glance.
>>14008143
>Also the problem with Title II is that the courts shot down the FCC's attempt in 2010
Didn't actual title II regulations take place in 2014? And whatever happened before that were weak libertarian(not progressive) steps in creating a regulatory base with which FCC would win a long going court case against Verizon that had incredible amounts of shot downs from court for the FCC side's weak documents.
498a1a No.14008214
>>14008127
>Tell me more.
>Public response was heated, pointing out FCC chairman Tom Wheeler's past as a president and CEO of two major ISP-related organizations, and the suspicion of bias towards the profit-motives of ISPs as a result.
>Prior to working at the FCC, Wheeler worked as a venture capitalist and lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States#FCC_attempts_at_enforcing_net_neutrality_(2005–2010)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Wheeler
It feels like maybe he got a clue from his friends to ally with the NN people now and then they'll find someone to break the system later.
>We might have a problem here, current chairman was appointed by trump, so it might be a bigger play than it could be seen at the first glance.
Trump doesn't have a problem with firing people and Pajeet is a massive asshole about the entire thing.
>>14008186
>Didn't actual title II regulations take place in 2014?
Yes but Pajeet revoked them and it seems a bad idea to keep a system that one guy can break. The FCC didn't have any court cases to use it in since the 2014-2015 adoption, which means weak legal history (maybe because Tom Wheeler was a hack, "let's ally now but never use it so people will hate us and then we'll cancel it") and obvious Title II is for radio and Congress needs to add a new section to the fucking Telecom act for the internet already.
498a1a No.14008264
I guess if there aren't any more comments then /v/ Congress is adjourned.
0908c7 No.14008265
>>14008214
>FCC_attempts_at_enforcing_net_neutrality_(2005–2010)
>In office November 4, 2013 – January 20, 2017
Pointing out that 05-10 NN isn't related with actions of the previous chairman.
>Trump doesn't have a problem with firing people and Pajeet is a massive asshole about the entire thing.
It depends on either was this a deliberate action to create an unhindered monopoly situation (then it wouldn't matter if Pai was fired), or if it was due to incompetence of Trump (then there might be a possibility of him doubling down on this decision due to, well, having an ego for example).
>The FCC didn't have any court cases to use it in since the 2014-2015 adoption,
But wasn't this adoption actually a reason for winning the case against Verizon creating a legal history.
Also, if it has a weak legal history, then how was it actually used for censorship, spying and whatever. Those would issue court orders for applying these actions under this law, so it would create a legal history.
498a1a No.14008321
>>14008265
>Pointing out that 05-10 NN isn't related with actions of the previous chairman.
Obviously but everything that's happened in the past month has been specifically relating to the FCC setting up the rule to use Title II to enforce NN in 2015.
>if it was due to incompetence of Trump (then there might be a possibility of him doubling down on this decision due to, well, having an ego for example).
I don't think Trump / Obama / Hillary / Bush / anyone in Congress understands the internet so in terms of digital competence in government it's severely lacking. Also no one in Washington wanted to work for Trump because he was ranting about them being useless during the election so he's been picking random people for the positions. Unlike the normal history of presidents involved in politics before being elected he doesn't owe anyone favours for being elected yet, though he might owe them for business interest. I don't think that he really cares about what he owes his businesses anymore though since he can't manage that due to conflict of interest laws while in the presidency.
>But wasn't this adoption actually a reason for winning the case against Verizon creating a legal history.
No, they lost the case against Verizon in 2014, and nothing has been done since. I misread it slightly, Verizon sued the FCC for the order it made in 2010 about NN:
>On January 20, 2011, Verizon sued the FCC, arguing that the order was exceeding the FCC's authority as authorized by Congress, violated the company's constitutional rights, and created uncertainty for the communications industry.[1][2]
>Because the FCC had previously classified broadband providers under Title I of the Communications Act of 1934, the court ruled that the FCC had relinquished its right to regulate them like common carriers. The case was largely viewed as a loss for network neutrality supporters and a victory for the cable broadband industry. Of the three orders that make up the FCC Open Internet Order 2010, two were vacated (no blocking and no unreasonable discrimination) and one was upheld (transparency).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Communications_Inc._v._FCC_(2014)
So basically:
>FCC loss
>changed rules
>ISPs never sued again
>rules never tested in court
>Pajeet cancelled it
>Also, if it has a weak legal history, then how was it actually used for censorship, spying and whatever. Those would issue court orders for applying these actions under this law, so it would create a legal history.
The Patriot Act and post-9/11 law gives the government a lot of shit powers it really shouldn't have for the "War Against Terror".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court#Secrecy
498a1a No.14008333
So the government started by protecting telecom in the first place but now it's trying to roll it back:
>The problem with Title II isn't neutrality—it's all the other stuff. In the 1970s, the FCC started to shield computing services from the heavy hand of Title II, a price-control regime imposed on Ma Bell in 1934. In 1996, Congress codified this distinction, immunizing Title I "information services" from Title II's "common carrier" (public utility) regulation.
>But Congress wasn't clear about what fell into each bucket. Telephone-based internet services were, like telephony itself, initially subject to Title II, but cable never was. Back in the 1990s, key Democratic senators insisted Congress never intended Title II for broadband. President Bill Clinton's FCC chair said he wouldn't dump the "whole morass of [Title II] regulation" on cable modem services—because that would diminish competition and discourage investment and innovation in broadband networks.
>The Bush-era FCC took Title II off the table. In 2015, the Obama-era FCC invoked what it claimed was Title II lite. But, critically, its selective enforcement of Title II can easily be changed by any future FCC. What's more, the FCC did invoke Title II's core provisions—all the FCC would need for the kind of full-blown regulation imposed on the railroads in the 1880s. You can't have a little Title II any more than you can be a little pregnant.
498a1a No.14008336
498a1a No.14008353
>>14008321
Update: apparently the change to Title II was upheld against the ISPs, but only in a petition and not a full legal case:
>The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit delivered a slam-dunk victory to the Federal Communications Commission as it rejected the petition filed by telecom, cable and wireless industry associations alongside AT&T, CenturyLink and several smaller providers.
>The ruling was celebrated as a victory for consumers by various public interest groups and Internet companies that had supported the FCC in the lawsuit. However, the telecom industry is expected to continue battling the regulations in Congress and before the nation's higher court.
So it seems like the problem is Title II being overdoing it but Title I being useless. We need Title I.5 with NN and transparency laws.
https://archive.fo/OlihR
0908c7 No.14008385
>>14008321
>The Patriot Act and post-9/11 law gives the government a lot of shit powers it really shouldn't have for the "War Against Terror".
I'll check it out, but still the question is, were there examples of TII legal hoops abused.
>I don't think Trump / Obama / Hillary / Bush / anyone in Congress understands the internet so in terms of digital competence in government it's severely lacking.
Never underestimate your enemy.
While I would agree that some people in congress may be incompetent on some of the laws they are passing, for government to be powerful enough to be a government there still need to be departments that understand fucking everything, including for example psychology and IT. Not proposing that everyone has direct access to those resources, but those resources are there nonetheless.
>I don't think that he really cares about what he owes his businesses anymore though since he can't manage that due to conflict of interest laws while in the presidency.
Well, corruption in principle doesn't care about breaking laws.
498a1a No.14008425
>>14008385
The NSA was already abusing that court but since Title II was only in use for a year I'm not sure that anything that might have been done is public yet. But Title II in general seems like it was something for the 30s to screw over the Bell telephone monopoly that kind of but not really applies for internet providers, since while we have a lot of big ISPs at the moment this will force Title II to apply to anyone trying to startup a new one as well, which will screw them over. The whole reason it didn't apply in the first place was because it was too hard for small internet startups back in the 70s and 80s. I'm pretty internet provision can be a lot more competitive than telephones ever were and we shouldn't stop that.
Really the biggest parts that need to be put in law are
>no throttling
>no blocking
and feel like there should also something about preventing social media censorship.
Whatever the case let's actually save the net already instead of Reddit shit.
0908c7 No.14008473
>>14008425
>this will force Title II to apply to anyone trying to startup a new one as well, which will screw them over
But as a startup those business would probably need to use the larger ISPs infrastructure, which without regulations would probably kill the smaller ones off before (<-truthful exaggeration) they'd even think of creating a business.
>I'm pretty internet provision can be a lot more competitive than telephones ever were and we shouldn't stop that.
What about limited ip4 address exhaustion.
>and feel like there should also something about preventing social media censorship.
While agree on what you've said just before that, but the whole idea that probably was title 2, is to create a legal context for why there should be no throttling and no blocking, since they couldn't write it themselves for several years. Without that extensive context, it would be close to impossible (especially since FCC couldn't create a context for why and how notnob should be handled) to prevent social media censorship.
But then also, how would you deal with millions of court cases deciding either a post was an opinion or a censurable offense if the whole country is currently in a political chaos.
>instead of Reddit shit
What do you mean by reddit shit?
498a1a No.14008489
>>14008473
Some countries have ISP infrastructure sharing law, but that's different from Title II and what I'm talking about is mobile / phone networks, 5G. I wouldn't really call ISP infrastructure sharing a regulation though since it makes the situation more competitive, it's more like a way of working around a monopoly. The US doesn't have it in much places at all and it also depends on people in the government thinking "yeah, we need more competition" which is hard when it's full of old normalfags that have no clue what a meme is.
There's IPv6 now, just no one spends money to use it.
>What do you mean by reddit shit?
prematurely celebrating decisions that can be undone by a smarmy indian boy and his two shills.
498a1a No.14008493
>>14008489
Also how Reddit likes to demonize people that don't like them instead of having discussions and circlejerking with upvotes about how "we're the heroes!" It's childish, useless, and disgusting.
0908c7 No.14008524
>>14008489
>There's IPv6 now, just no one spends money to use it.
It's probably more than just that. Like p2p programs requiring ip4s which amassed through the years so much that no one would even bother seriously considering ipv6 until we face some serious-serious crisis.
Btw ipv6 was there for a long time already, so yeah, we are a bit stuck here.
>>14008493
-> >>14005208
We are reddit now, ow yeah~.
6334ec No.14008534
>>14004232
>There are people in this thread that doesn't know about the "Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016 (S.2692)" in Net Neutrality***
People here don't know how BIG of a bullet we dodged.
498a1a No.14008541
>>14008524
We don't have upboats and downboats yet thank fuck. Or plebbit gold accounts.
0908c7 No.14008552
>>14008541
But we have
>post your reaction when you didn't do the thing that you obviously shouldn't have done
or
>reply if *id is gay
So it's pretty much the same.
498a1a No.14008567
>>14008552
at least your post doesn't get hidden due to dislikes.
you're gay
412cc2 No.14008588
>>14004269
>we want the minecraft audience
0908c7 No.14008612
>>14008541
>>14008567
For another example, there was an instance where anon was simply laughed at for expressing his opinions about overwatch. While I wouldn't agree with what he said, what he said was reasonable (at least in the pictures circulated in the лул threads). And then another guy was outed as a retard symapthizer or an id change persona and was ignored too.
https://8ch.net/v/res/13432037.html#13432037
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/91983bdad9cf163cc320c10852ab8f5b20f8cbd8a265411db6601c733a7b0386.png
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/91983bdad9cf163cc320c10852ab8f5b20f8cbd8a265411db6601c733a7b0386.png
Here is supposed to be a part one link but I don't have it and you have all the links, so you get the idea.
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/c75891b59980a7c0a5312cb5e3623a9cf2abc1365543c0a62501064502246a92.png
So basically, yeah, his arguments were hidden and burried under all of these upboatdownboat reaction images. And this is now an epic tale here on 8chan, how we outed the redditor. Epic winrarzorz!
But don't worry it will only get worse.
thanks
c112c6 No.14008644
>>14008612
>everyone laughed at this guy for his opinions
>this means his posts were hidden because of wrongthink
55ab83 No.14008663
NN has been dead for a little bit now, but we're still here.
Your move, fearmongers.
0908c7 No.14008668
>>14008644
What difference does it make having an argument being downvoted due to groupthink or the argument being ignored due to groupthink? No one is going to take you seriously and you get ostracized either way.
>>14008663
Who are "we"?
55ab83 No.14008672
>>14008668
>Who are "we"?
8ch.net
0908c7 No.14008684
>>14008672
And what's the stance on the NN of the person named 8ch.net. Xer is for or against the NN principles?
0908c7 No.14008693
>>14008684
>>14008672
Sorry, I've meant, "they is…", I hope we is not triggered.
55ab83 No.14008705
>>14008684
>>14008693
Stop huffing paint fumes, its racking your brain.
c112c6 No.14008707
>>14008668
The difference is that your opinion will still be there for everyone to see. Wether other people take you seriously or agree with you is another matter entirely.
Even in situations like the one you linked there's always a decent chance of someone replying properly which is what should matter to the guy being replied to, not the amount of people giving him a (you) alongside a smug_anime_girl.jpg. Hell, that particular guy got a serious reply explaining their reasons for disliking OW whereas, in places like Reddit, your post explaining why Skyrim is shit will always get buried by a couple hundred downboats and even a ban for "trolling" if you are unlucky.
0908c7 No.14008771
>>14008705
Stop dodging the question, autismo.
>>14008707
>The difference is that your opinion will still be there for everyone to see.
You are arguing semantics. And if you want to argue semantics, downboated posts can be seen by everyone else if people choose to do so, same as they do to mentally engage with unpopular opinions. Well, unless as you've said, they get banned, but posts are banned on imageboards too, sometimes for the same exact reasons.
>Hell, that particular guy got a serious reply explaining their reasons for disliking OW whereas
Maybe, not going to refresh my info on that, but the 2nd guy was not given a reasonable approach at all.
Even if you get a semi-decent reply, if the person took on a position to disagree or oppose you, then they are likely to disagree further in the discussion (from rejecting to agree on details, to ignoring parts entirely), even if that predisposition has nothing to do with the arguments themselves.
And are you seriously defending groupthink?
>inb4 are you seriously defending a redditor
Answer to that is yes, because everyone who engaged in the explained activity or shared the screencaps agreeing solely on a groupthink basis that those are epic win - are simply worse than the redditor in question.
27213c No.14009214
>>14008771
>using OW shit as an example for not debating something civilly
This has less to do with how the site functions and more to do with the fact that Overwatch has been discussed to death and every aspect about it has been boiled down as to why it's shit. When you try and come in to a place where a consensus has been objectively reached then there's no reason to take them seriously. And I hardly doubt that post brought up a single good point that was worth taking seriously.
c112c6 No.14010444
>>14008771
>You are arguing semantics
How is it arguing semantics? Reddit automatically hides posts that reach a certain downvote treshold while in imageboards your unpopular opinions will never be minimized or hidden from view by default, they even become more visible because of the amount of replies. This is an important difference because it affects the flow of discussion, when unpopular opinions are hidden the chance of actual debates taking place is reduced significantly.
As for getting banned on imageboards, that come down to every specific moderation team but to take /v/ for example; There was that one FO4 autist that never got banned despite making about 4 threads about his shit game.
>Even if you get a semi-decent reply, if the person took on a position to disagree or oppose you, then they are likely to disagree further in the discussion
This has more to do with the intricacies of internet arguments rather than with the nature of anonymous imageboards.
>And are you seriously defending groupthink?
In what way shape or form am i defending groupthink?
ad4681 No.14011286
>>14009214
well good posts on Overwatch but he miss something:
he forgot mei
mai is the 6th op character with her ability to freez someone (and an entire team) easely.
and that was it, nto more fun pick the 5 + mei
048a23 No.14011538
4f686a No.14012182
>>14004681
>it remind me that the 1st time is aw the trailer i though t was a fanmade. i couldn t even imagin that a clone would be black… then a realise that stormtrooper post republic weren t only clone anymore… (and yet they all have the same voice)
> tfw Finn could have died from his wounds in TFA, so Poe and Rey abduct another storm trooper and it looks just like Finn, and since they barely knew the first one, just call him Finn for TLJ
4e8002 No.14017995
>>14004681
Since they retconned all the EU stuff, I don't think they ever established that, actually. There's nothing in the movies saying that they shouldn't just continue using clones. They were certainly effective, and had a lower betrayal rate than these new fucks.