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MONSTER HUNTER WORLD SOON BAYBEH

>>13990084

I'm just wondering what the full game will be, the beta buff everything you can clear it super fast and you can't even explore the hub town

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/538/1538583/

Highlights:

>World is replacing the main series (using a subtitle so if it backfires and flops they can just go back to proper MonHun with 5) and is aimed very specifically at the foreigners who wouldn't play because of post-item animations and the like.

>Maps are 2.5x larger to accommodate the inter-area connections. This is supposedly why they made the glowy bug shit to keep you from getting lost, and dropped Paintballs.

>Multiple base camps that you can fast travel between and change your equipment in.

>Other Hunters can be invited to join a quest mid-way.

>Online matching can be set to worldwide or by language.

>The T-Rex is named Anjanaf, and the yellow things are Jaglas and Dos Jaglas.

>The thing on the player's arm is called the Slinger and it basically means things like Rocks that you pick up don't get counted as normal items but as ammo for that thing.

>The rope thing is used in context specific situations where it can be hooked, and automatically like in the bit in the trailer where you fail the mounts.

>Damage displays were added because of complaints that monster reactions were hard to discern.

Some key quotes:

Tsujimoto: "'Monster Hunter' itself has continued for a long time, and so we thought somewhere along the line there was a need to take a fresh look at it, and choose this timing to produce it."

Tsujimoto: "Up until now we've done numbering, as this is a timing to take a fresh look at 'Monster Hunter', we brought that concept into the title."

Fujioka: "It feels like numbering, but World is just a subtitle."

Fujioka: "There was this global wall we were never able to surpass. So we wanted to think about that and include that here."

Tsujimoto: "When we say that, it might make you think we're ONLY thinking about global with this work, that's not the case at all; we think this concept will absolutely satisfy the people who've played the series up until now domestically, and on top of that will be global and expand more and more. It's a global that includes Japan."

Fujioka: "Since the foreign fans have increased, we'd like to more straightforwardly have them playing. To go even further, we'd like them to interact more with Japanese users. Just, we want to make it while properly facing up to the elements that prevent it from expanding."

Question: "Where did you feel this global wall?"

Fujioka: "Even though there are facets that are great as Monster Hunter's unique traits, it was frustrating that they didn't seem to transfer well.

If there's a stopping point when you take an action, we include that as part of the strategy, but there are people who don't play simply because of that."

(regarding the damage value displays)

Fujioka: "We, who are developing the games, accepted them without any sense of disconnect or discomfort, so we think it'll work out alright."

>might sale skins for the handler

So we now know the true reason that she's so ugly. They're gonna sale cute guild sweetheart skins.

>>13990254

They gave her downs to sell skins? That's just rude.

>>13990192

Every fucking thread with this autistic fuck.

>>13991136

Actually when you think about it, they would never be able to force PS+ for multiplayer because they already spilled the beans about the PC release and the PC release sure as fuck ain't gonna have PS+ fees. It would gimp their sales even more than they're already going to be by having one version with fucking online fees and another version without them.

>>13991221

That never stopped Microsoft.

>>13991270

uh there are 2 subspecies on that list that aren't raths

>>13991270

This. Also no underwater confirmed since there seem to be no aquatic monsters in that list.

>>13991262

I've posted this list everywhere including cuckchan to see what they thought and everyone called it fake. 39 big monsters isn't that bad, but it does confirm that there is no G Rank if that list is real. This is standard for a vanilla MonHun except X which was a greatest hits spin off.

>>13991343

I bet G rank will be dlc if true.

>>13991354

G rank has always been a full price expansion. Hopefully they release it as DLC for a for price instead of 60 dollars. 20 dollars would be a fair price.

60+20 = 80 = 2 3ds/psp games. Same price.

>>13991362

>>13991354

Would be nice if they add it as an expansion-pack sized DLC, but it's Capcom; Street Fighter, Dragon's Dogma, Monster Hunter in general all got the same treatment.

>>13990165

Someone posted this video in the other thread and it seemed to show a pretty good indication of the games final difficulty against low rank monsters. Take note of the damage the G. jagras does against the hunter, and how much more aggressive the "other" monster appears to be in general compared to the beta Jagras which hit weakly.

Sorry for arrekz

>>13991369

This your first Monster Hunter or something?

Those aren't subspecies, those are the devs being lazy and re-using the same animation and AI skeletons. There's a subtle difference. The first is a straight up recolor, the second usually has a totally new model

>>13991383

Ah yeah its not so bad, especially when I remember monster like the Yian-Garuga and Yian-kut-ku.

How the fuck does the radobaan manage to roll with those huge ass spikes on its back?!?!

>>13991092

Thats good! The hunt for that faggot Pukei-Pukei continues!

>>13991369

I don't understand what you're so triggered about.

>>13991420

>How the fuck does the radobaan manage to roll with those huge ass spikes on its back?!?!

IIRC he doesn't, the bones fly everywhere, but he get new ones in there at the same time because his skin is coated in sticky slime or something.

>>13991562

I fucking hate Kecha and I hope Ash Kecha doesn't make it back. I want Rajang dammit.

>>13991678

My number one issue with that list is Zinogre isn't in it. That is basically all the proof I need at this point that the list is fake. Thunderdoggo is basically permastatus monster like deviljho and Rath at this point.

>>13991720

That list has actually been known about around the time the Rotten Vale trailer was released, but not before we knew the names of the monsters in it, that's an old-ass screenshot. It got Odogaron and Radobaan correct, Uragaan and Lavasioth were a almost a bit no brainers at the time but I'm willing to think it's legit, there's a lot of "two monsters that look eerily similar" going on especially with the ones we know about.

>>13991720

>>13991738

Proof that the leak is old, it was right at the end of October.

https://pastebin.com/M1DaDih2

>>13991738

>>13991744

I understand that but Capcom are incapable of releasing a MonHun game without Zinoge the current year.

>>13991759

Hopefully he's part of the free DLC then and not the inevitable paid g-rank expansion.

>>13991378

>Fake difficulty until you learn its moveset

>Then ez

No indication because he's bad with a charge blade.

>>13991960

Arrekz is a total undeniable faggot but he is not bad at Monster Hunter, and gives good info about world so far.

>>13991812

>>13992013

it's the liberal mindset, you change the goalpost everytime you get told you're are wrong.

>>13992013

I've seen people critiquing that having knowledge that was only available outside the game finally in the game as a bad thing. (hitzones, etc.)

I just don't know how to talk to people who are that retarded, if they're making talking points like that clearly they don't have any enthusiasm for the game.

>>13991092

>DOESN'T require PS+

I just assumed otherwise. This is good news.

>>13991369

They're Alola forms, just like in Pokemon. Aren't you glad World is taking inspiration from one of Japan's best selling and most popular hits? See, it's not taking all of its inspiration from Western games! :^)

Shitposting aside, Radobaan is probably a close relative of Uragaan, who ended up looking completely different due to different environmental factors. There's a lot less ore available in his home area, and there's no molten rock around, so he doesn't grow the metal and rock plating Uragaan does. It's a lot more extreme of a difference than most subspecies, so it's enough to have it classed as a separate species. They're still similar enough to be given very similar names like with Yian Kut-ku and Yian Garuga, or Jaggi, Baggi, and Wroggi, or Diablos and Monoblos.

I don't understand why Jyuratodus doesn't have a name similar to Plesioth and Lavasioth, though. He'll always be Mudsioth in my heart. He also looks kind of fun to fight, similar to Lavasioth. Plesioth and Cephadrome are both horrible fights, but Lavasioth has always been the one good piscine wyvern, and it's nice to see that Jyuratodus is shaping up to be the best piscine wyvern in the series.

>>13992604

Subspecies were always in MonHun though.

>>13992604

>I don't understand why Jyuratodus doesn't have a name similar to Plesioth and Lavasioth

I looked it up and Jyuratodus is only a few letters off from the Japanese name, Jyuratodosu, which is actually closer to the Japanese names of Plesioth and Lavasioth, Ganototosu and Voruganosu. When I did see its name was Jyuratodus, I did suspect it sounded like a Japanese style monster name.

I felt like the majority of the new monsters sounded like they had Japanese names and sure enough, Odogaron and Nergigante are straight rips. Uragaan is already similar to the Japanese name and Radobaan has about the same number of differences compared to the Jap name. I feel like they're keeping the new names similar this time since it's an international release this time, need to make online communication more universal, etc.

>>13992691

>Jyuratodus is only a few letters off from the Japanese name, Jyuratodosu, which is actually closer to the Japanese names of Plesioth and Lavasioth, Ganototosu and Voruganosu

So shitty localizations in the older games combined with World having better localization for the new monsters leads to inconsistencies between monsters that are supposed to have similar names. Why is localization always such a plague? Once it fucks something over, even if they get their act together and stop fucking more stuff up, the scars of the old localization are still there causing trouble in the future.

>I feel like they're keeping the new names similar this time since it's an international release this time, need to make online communication more universal, etc.

Or maybe they learned their lesson after Generations' horrible localization. Cutting out actual good advice for new players early game to force in a meme with the line about ignoring people who tell you to "get good", complete disregard for the original names and meanings of names, and making up entirely new shit for MUH LORE that has nothing to do with the original by changing Raizekuzu to "Astalos" to imply some relation to Rathalos. Either way, this is a step in the right direction.

When does the MH World come to PC?

Do I have to play the earlier games to understand it?

>>13992443

>I've seen people critiquing that having knowledge that was only available outside the game finally in the game as a bad thing. (hitzones, etc.)

But hitzones aren't only knowable outside the game, you can tell from the effects that happen when you hit the monster.

>>13992747

>Why is localization always such a plague?

Because it's the refuge for worthless shits with no real skills to feel like they contribute something of worth to the world.

>>13992790

If anything, at this point it looks like World is going to be MonHun's Persona 3 - the worst of the franchise where the only way to enjoy it is for it to be your first entry.

>>13992891

>P3

>Worse than P4

objectively wrong and you should kill yourself

>>13992938

P4 might be worse as an individual installment, though I'm not prepared to say that, I found them equally shitty, but Persona 3 is what guaranteed they'll never make a Persona game ever again.

>>13992747

>even if they get their act together and stop fucking more stuff up, the scars of the old localization are still there causing trouble in the future.

Fun fact: the name of the Fatalis is Miraboreasu, basicaly the japanese way of saying Mirabilis, the latin word for wondrous, for some reason the localization team decided to change this to fatalis, kinda shitty thing to do but fatalis is also a cool name so whatever.

Now, MH3ultimate come around and the last elder dragon you fight is called in japan "Gran Miraosu", clearly part of the Mirabilis species, comon sense dictates that when translating the game they would take that in consideration and translate it to something Like Grand Fatalis, or even use Dire Fatalis or something like that, but no, they translate to Dire Miralis, more similar with the japanese name yes, but butchered it's nod to the english species name altogether, the name they decided to change in the first place.

Just goes to show how much they give a shit about localization, they make their own names at a whim and don't even follow up with their own decisions.

>>13993064

I'm honestly convinced most localizers don't actually know Japanese and just make shit up after maybe throwing it in Google Translate.

>>13993128

You couldn't be any closer to the truth.

>>13993078

It wouldn't be the first time. X/Generations had the metal Raths, MH2 had all of the subspecies introduced in MHG, and MH4 actually had a large number of subspecies, far more than are shown in that "leak"; http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH4:_Monsters

There's more precedent for having subspecies than there is for not having them. MH1 and MH3 were the only ones not to have subspecies.

>>13991092

>No PS+

You faggots have no excuse now to test the game for yourself. Also something to clear out during the beta, everything is buffed to clear the hunt as fast as possible, you have 20 minutes time limit and 9 feint. These are only for the beta since we already know theres on 3 feint in the final game.

>>13993232

stupid goon, you're supposed to rely on 3rd party sources for your information like the rest of us pro hunters. making such information available ingame clearly devalues how hardcore we are by having kiranico open while playing.

>>13993232

I am pretty damn sure it is explained in-game though considering the quality of the "translations" the West gets they probably replaced all that with random drug jokes and the like.

>>13993264

>You faggots have no excuse now to test the game for yourself.

Except for the part where you still need to own a PS4.

>>13993264

>Also something to clear out during the beta, everything is buffed to clear the hunt as fast as possible

Wait, so then what's the point of having a demo if it's not reflective of the game to the point we can't make an informed decision on whether we'd want the game or not?

>>13993300

None of the demos have ever been reflective of the final game, considering it excludes more than half of the shit you're going to be doing and focuses purely on combat.

>>13993302

But if they're claiming this isn't even reflective of the final game's combat, there's literally no point to this demo existing.

>>13993306

I think it's just more to get an understanding of field mechanics and combat rather than to demonstrate the full extent of it. The idea of the game is more likely to sell than the game with its full honesty.

I watched a bunch of streamers since I don't have a PS4 and had a lot of time to myself, and a lot of the more casual shits were challenging themselves to do Diablos. Obviously like the bunch of shitters they are, they keep using up all 9 carts. If it were just three carts though, they might think it's too brutal and that won't sell the game if people think they can't get into it.

>>13993317

Just goes to show how completely removed the World audience is from the MonHun audience, I guess.

>>13993346

>console wars here to ruin a thread

oh boy, would be nice if mods could do their jobs

>>13991362

I'd rather it be a full game, because then I only pay once. Any of you faggots buying the first iteration of a capcom game are why they still get away with that shit.

>>13993380

Tell that to retards in Japan, we only got the ultimate version

>>13993402

>Tri

>Generations

Idiot.

>>13993457

>>13992047

>>13991960

Honestly I just watch videos on weapons like his to learn the basics of the weapons, along with the changes in each new monster hunter and then figure out the rest myself.

I don't mind if the Charge Blade's explosions are further nerfed, I'm glad they got rid of the travesty that was X/XX's CB changes where yellow and red shields were separate shield states. I also really like the added slide-slash and the ability to charge your blade.

I really hope they brought the guard points back to 4U's where using a guard point rewards you with dealing extra damage to a monster via whatever your shield is charged with. That's another thing I disliked with X, is that they kind of took away the reward for attempting to use and master guard points by allowing that bonus damage to be used any time you guard an attack.

>>13993617

Did you just read that part and piss your diaper?

But I'll elaborate: I watch videos that focus on weapons. Just those singular videos that demonstrate what changes and/or addition there are in terms of moveset just so I can be more informed while actually playing.

I don't watch them actually hunt anything. I don't watch them go through the village. I don't watch their twitch or whatever streams where they hunt online.

>>13993617

>watching someone else play the game than actually playing it yourself

>game releases in a month

Anon the game isnt even out yet, we have no other choice but to watch his videos to learn about the lastest news with the game and the guy definitely delivers. Do you realize he got to play the actual game for like 10 hours months before the release date? Not to mention that insane amount of time he spent with the gamescom demo to give us the weapon tutorial videos.

Not to mentioned I avoided videos like the plague and just played the shit out of the demo when it came out, I enjoyed the speedruns after it was over.

>>13993640

>>13993642

Please don't feed the autistic zipperhead. Just filter him.

>>13993673

>>13993694

What's even more hilarious is that this is what these people actually delude themselves with

>I watch MMA, that makes me a professional fighter

>I watch cooking shows, that makes me a chef

>I watch Bob Ross, that makes me an artist

>I watch video games, that makes me a gamer

>>13993702

>video content is STRICTLY for professionals

why can't amateurs watch as well? how hard is your autism

>>13993769

you too can have what the beta demonstrated to be the second worst or worst monster hunter behind gen/X… in 2019 according to most rumors

>>13991324

oh no what a shame we lose out on one of the worst aspects to ever be included in a monster hunter game. oh nooooooo

If that list is real, I wonder what monsters they're going to release as free DLC.

I'm hoping it's some recognized monsters. Some Brachydios would be cool. Tigrex too.

I see Lunastra and Teostra in there, which makes me kind of happy.

I hope they forget about Yian Garuga forever. Bastard child.

>>13994033

WHOA THERE

CHARLES DICKENS

WHAT

ABOUT

ALL

THESE

PARAGRAPHS

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>>13993617

There is literally nothing wrong with watching people who are better at the game teach you how to play. Especially a game like MonHun with no good tutorials at all. I didn't even know you could charge your shield with the charge blade until after I fought Gore Magala the first time I played 4.

>>13994048

It's called reddit spacing for a reason.

I should really just give up Gunlance. It's consistently one of the worst weapons in each game, and when they finally make ones that work you wind up knocking other hunters around like pinballs.

>>13994240

Other hunters should be giving you breathing room. With that said you should only be knocking around HH users because they'll be hitting the legs like you.

>>13994240

knocking around other players like pinballs is the best part of gunlance though.

>>13994251

this

t. someone who gets knocked around by a gunlance users

>>13994240

Players should give you some space when they see you're wielding weapons that can toss them around. You should also attempt to stay away from them; but the blame is equally shared.

Like I wouldn't take a longsword and run into a group of players, and at the same time if I'm slashing at monster with it, you shouldn't attempt to come near me.

It's also a bit of knowing your place (if there's a hammer or HH user on the team then longsword shouldn't be hitting at the head when the other two are trying to KO it), but that's another topic.

But in the end it always comes down to playing the weapon you like without caring for anyone else. Don't switch weapons because you knock around other people. Especially if you find that weapon fun.

I kinda find it fun to get flung about by other players, though.

>>13994293

Is there some kind of etiquette the japanese players use for this, weapons they shy away form or something?

>>13994327

As far as I know, most Japanese players don't discriminate against weapon types. Though someone more informed than me can probably tell you otherwise.

I don't know why I wanted to hurt my soul but I went to halfchan to see how bad they'd gotten

That place truly is lost. Taste is entirely gone. Whenever someone brings up casualization they ignore it, there are even people claiming gaming has been perfectly healthy for the last few decades and the only problems were from nerdvirgins.

This is World's audience.

>>13994378

>normalfags doing normalfag-things

A mystery, really.

>>13994399

I just really like MonHun and had hoped that maybe this would be something that could remain good

Nothing ever remains good. Normalfags are ruining everything.

>>13993748

look at the thread you're in, the autism is off the charts.

>>13994457

You didn't notice how reddit was all over MH4U? That was the turning point.

is this the new gay community?

>>13994501

I know. I just wish things were different.

I get that companies want money and such but I just want good video games.

>>13994515

>new

Anyone got the Rathalos running in a circle WEBM?

>>13994600

>i'm incapable of reading the thread

>>13994600

>>13993769

>>13994541

What it comes down to is we need another crash to get the normalfags out, so that the only way to make money in vidya is to make good ones.

>>13994714

God damn Exterminatus is what we need.

>>13994731

JE SUIS MONTE

>>13994731

source nigga

>>13994731

Most arena matches had 9 faints. I hate World too but come on.

>>13994801

It's a fucking leak, not something shitting on the game.

>Condition is to kill only one of them

>You have 5 minutes to do it

>Implies you have all three in the arena at the same time

The gate better last the whole 5 minutes.

>>13994813

I doubt all 3 will spawn in, even if they did they'll just fight each other and you can just easily wail on them with openings.

>>13994251

No, that's the switch axe.

Just fling them at the monster.

>>13994834

Is there more though?

>>13994731

is that an arena quest with a kush and teostra AND the new guy? In just five minutes? World really must be piss easy then

>>13994850

Read you dipshit, the condition is to only kill one of them, not all three.

>>13994854

I don't speak 3 carts sorry.

>>13994895

You mean 9 carts.

>>13993673

I am trying to learn so much in such a short time. Can you suggest any good MonHun Lore video's????

>>13994915

lol just google equal dragon weapon xD

>>13994921

omg i hope they put it in MHW, SO HYPE XD

>>13994293

Horn stun got nerfed really bad in Gen/World it shouldn't really be trying for stun over a GS hitting it in the head

>>13995102

That I didn't know. That's too bad.

>>13994829

It literally fucking says arena.

>>13994788

Is there any good source for new combos and flow?

I didn't even realize quick reload was in World.

>>13995306

Anyone who complains about the gunlance being either shit or clunky is a damn retard or a shitter. You are a dope as well since you didnt even have the decency to fiddle around with the controls until you discovered most of the GL's moveset.

I fiddled around with it for a few hunts because it was a good weapon back in 3U and I found out some cool new moves with it, not to mention that it is faster than ever before now, so if you say its too slow, then its your fault.

>Moving forward + Δ is the running jab, use it to close any distance

>O+Δ is the overhead poke

from what i played all of the good shit starts with this attack

>O+Δ, Δ, Δ, Δ is the 4 hit melee combo with the stake launch at the end

Everytime you do the stake launch, you cant do it again until you reload the GL 2 times

>O+Δ, Δ, O shoots all of your shells out at once after the slam, you could continue the combo though

>O+Δ, Δ, O, Δ, Δ does the 4 hit combo with the shell launches

>You can reload incredibly fast after a poke, idk if you can keep on poking after that reload though

The way I play is that I use the melee/allshell combos at an accelerated pace until any monster is dead, its really easy to dodge attacks too. I managed to solo every monster worth a damn in the demo with it. Dont forget to use any traps or stun knifes to get even more hits off.

>>13991362

They know that westerners don't want to buy g-rank with another full price. I hope it comes as a dlc for 20-30€.

And since they already promised free monster dlc (porting the old ones into world?), paying 20-30€ for G-rank and their past free dlc doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.

>>13995713

She's the ugliest fucking character in world. Everyone else looks pretty good. And you can make your character look pretty good too as far as I can see.

But that… that thing. That is absolutely the worst part of World for me. I haven't played the beta yet but nothing I've heard about can top that face on the list.

>>13993617

There's a pretty big difference between watching streamers play a game as a means of "consuming" it versus watching videos for tutorials and tips on shit like weapon types, then going and playing the game yourself.

>>13995086

You're not thinking with hon hon anon.

>>13996058

This is a monster in Gen? I never played it. Is generations good?

>>13996259

>This is a monster in Gen?

Yes.

>Is generations good?

Yes and no. Styles are imbalanced, there is no point playing outside of aerial or adept since they are OP. Only lance and GS seem to benefit from striker. Arts are either useless or really strong. Gen also has ridiculous amount of gathering quests, was it even 2 times more than 4U, and Gen doesn't even have g-rank.

But it is still kind of fun to play.

>>13996259

if you are morbidly curious at least look into XX instead

>>13991562

zinogre

I also really liked the theme of shigeru miyamoto, so it would be nice if he was in it too

>>13996401

Try to appeal american audience.

>>13996259

Styles add some variation/customization to gameplay, but like the previous anon said, those are unbalanced. Aerial and Adept are OP for most weapons. Adept especially (while being the most fun style IMO) gives weapons that are defensive/evasive even more of an advantage. Aerial gives you tons of mobility and quick access to incredibly powerful attacks such as Greatsword's charged attacks. If you have XX (which is the "Ultimate" version of Generations), there's Brave style which is fucking broken.

Hunter arts also add some customization. They're special skills you can activate but they're very black and white. The hunter arts that aren't good are just "meh". XX adds some new Hunter Arts I believe and as far as I can recall, none of them are particularly amazing but I like Charge Blade's Chainsaw.

Some of the new monsters are pretty cool I found, including Malfestio (the owl) and Glavenus. Mizutsune was pretty.

It's fun for the bit I played (in XX), but it makes for a pretty poor Monster Hunter. Then I found it beginning to tedious after a while and I couldn't continue after making it somewhat midway into High Rank.

>>13996404

Amazing how Japan's view on making a woman attractive to the west is making her look like a crack whore. Probably because of how American devs design their female characters.

Like it'd be great if she were an NPC we rarely see, but she's apparently the guild receptionist or some shit. And also the tutorial lady that spouts what you have to do. I hope you can turn her off. Her head in the bottom right corner of the screen moving and talking will irritate the hell out of me.

And she seems to be the only person who looks like that. Even the guys look more attractive.

>>13996424

I don't know man her appearance seems to fit her character pretty well. It's not like she's sitting behind a desk all day so she won't wear make up or do her hair pretty.pI feel that when the game is out and we can see more of her actual character she will be well liked. Her character shines through better when you go off script in the demo like killing the Rathalos and diablos. She seems really cute, plus she cooks for you.

would protect

>>13996462

I want my MH3U quest girl. I am ready to pay.

>>13996477

I want a fighting game with all the guild girls and clothes destruction.

>>13996462

>because of fags like this, Capcom will uglify all future guild ladies, as well as previously existing ones

>you will live to see Guild Marm given buckteeth, wrinkles, fridge-shaped body, saggy eyebags, and a masectomy, while putting on a STRONG INDEPENDANT WOMYN WHO DON'T NEED NO HUNTER routine

MH should have never gone mainstream.

>>13996545

a nigger with a spear

>>13996545

Fujioka.

>>1399654

Apex Ajanath

>>13996545

king shakalaka to give basketball-americans some needed representation

>>13996278

CB is also only good with Striker, because the shield charge boosts the power of axe attacks way more than with other styles, which offsets the massive damage nerfs CB has seen.>>13996278

>>13996545

Your fellow employees who work so hard shilling World on this very site truly deserve the opportunity to appear in the game, as the hideous monstrosities they are to be beaten to death and skinned.

>>13996545

Hideo Kojima

>>13991262

>no Tamamitsu

>no Gamuto

>no Najarala

>no Lagiacrus

>no Zinogre

>no shadow the edgehog plague wyvern

>no Jhen of any sort

>no frog

<fucking Lavasioth who the fuck cares

There's more missing than there is in the goddamn game.

>>13996761

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>>13996424

>as far as I can recall, none of them are particularly amazing

SA's was fun, because it buffed axe mode a tonne. But, it was still better to use sword mode, because holy shit the sword mode arts from Gen are broken as fuck. SnS's oil art was insanely good, arguably the best art in the entire game. +30% affinity, a good amount of KO and exhaust on every single attack, Part Breaker, and Mind's Eye all rolled into a single art, and the effects stack with the oil items. You can double up on KO and make Hammerbros jealous, or get a total of +60% affinity, which is an insanely good boost for the crit stack meta. For SnS it's almost effortless to get a 100% crit rate in XX, even with some negative affinity weapons. Plus, the art changes Mind's Eye oil to sharpen your weapon very quickly, so it effectively gets a bootleg Speed Sharpening as an added bonus.

>>13995695

Is that a boy or a girl?

>>13996796

She's a tard handler. She can't be too pretty, or their pee-pees will start to feel funny, and then they'll get confused and be harder to keep on their leashes.

>>13996871

She'll be pretty once you pay for the skins.

>>13997089

That would be so amazing.

>>13997089

Would actually fit too considering World is all about that Western audience

>>13990192

Can you play offline or fully solo?

I don't want to see other disgusting human beings in my vidya, ever. Not even in my hub towns.

>>13997467

It works just like normal MonHun since the first. There is a town and gathering Hall. The worrisome thing for me is there is no separate gathering hall quests in this one so no ability to fight gathering hall quests.

>>13997467

From what I gather only the demo required the entry fee, the full game is fully available offline to the best of my knowledge. Unfortunately, they're making all quests multiplayer-enabled, and due to scaling, you won't be able to play the correct difficulty level unless you use some sort of script to trick the game into thinking you have a full four player party to power up the monster accordingly.

>>13997438

Are you implying Metal Gear is from the West?

>>13997600

Have we had any specific information about how the multiplayer scaling works? All I've seen is something vague about it being more difficult with multiple people, but nothing specific. I'm wondering if it's just an increase in HP, or an increase in its stats all around, or if they'd actually put in the effort to make the AI smarter or more aggressive. It would suck if it was just HP scaling without anything else changing, or something lazy like making the monster bigger with more people.

>trick the game into thinking you have a full four player party

That would actually be a great idea for a feature. An optional challenge mode that scales a monster up as if you had a full party of players to replicate the experience of playing the multiplayer quests solo in the other games. Calling it now, a week or two after release, Capcom will release a patch to add in a feature like this due to popular demand for the low, low price of only $40!

>>13997667

>Are you implying Metal Gear is from the West?

No, just how Kojima's generally a big Westaboo, and how popular Metal Gear is in the West.

>Have we had any specific information about how the multiplayer scaling works? All I've seen is something vague about it being more difficult with multiple people, but nothing specific. I'm wondering if it's just an increase in HP, or an increase in its stats all around, or if they'd actually put in the effort to make the AI smarter or more aggressive. It would suck if it was just HP scaling without anything else changing, or something lazy like making the monster bigger with more people.

I've heard nothing official on it, just lots of people vaguely claiming it.

>That would actually be a great idea for a feature. An optional challenge mode that scales a monster up as if you had a full party of players to replicate the experience of playing the multiplayer quests solo in the other games. Calling it now, a week or two after release, Capcom will release a patch to add in a feature like this due to popular demand for the low, low price of only $40!

Nah, the audience they're targeting doesn't want it, and those that do want it are people they're going to hope to sucker into buying 4 copies of the game and 4 machines just to keep activating this effect.

>>13997667

The Pukei Pukei video from Arrekz showed how if you fought him solo he would use a single target style poison spit attack but if you fought him with a fill team he would emit a poison cloud from his body. This is the only indication I ha e seen of monsters using different attacks and behaving differently with multiple hunters.

>>13994293

>>13997089

what the fuck is that

>>13998435

Gear Rex an optional boss in MGS Peace Walker. It would be cool to see him as an event boss in world tbh

I really hope I'm just seeing things, but around 3:45 of this it looks like he's moving while charging his Greatsword? Is that something they put in now?

>>13998743

That is the new move "shoulder tackle".

It has several functions:

>tackle through enemy attacks

You take reduced damage too, and any charge move can be canceled to tackle mid charging.

>skip to next type of charge

>repositioning

>>13998743

>4:20

>it has iframes too

Jesus christ.

>>13998751

Is that why he can Super Armor through quite a few things? Christ

>>13998759

To be fair it looks like he's still taking damage, but he's definitely Super Armoring.

Also, weren't people claiming that Max Potions kept you immobile? At 11:00 he's definitely moving while using them.

>>13998780

Nope. Look at 7:55. He uses it to iframe through a roar.

>>13998780

Yes. GS meta is not anymore on hit and run. If you check the 5min ~30sec video of gs beating rathalos, the player uses a lot of the shoulder tackle and rarely sheathes.

This has pretty much split the old GS users' opinions.

>>13998784

It isn't technically a iframe, it just ignores all stuns. It is more of a low lvl block.

>>13998789

So super armor now also doubles as ear protection?

>>13998791

No. like I said, it is more of a block move, thus it has also roar stun and probably even tremor stun negate.

>>13998784

Most roars don't do damage to begin with to be fair.

>>13998786

I'm hesitant - while it doesn't look AS broken as Brave Style, that's not exactly a high bar to clear, and it looks like it will have similarly balance breaking effects in terms of keeping you constantly dishing out heavy damage.

>>13998793

I would presume wind as well, since blocking stopped that too.

>>13998793

Jesus christ so it negates damage, negates stun, negates roars, negates tremors, and you can spam it basically at any point in the combos, but it's totally not an i-frame so that makes it okay.

And I thought MHX's "press button to avoid damage" mechanic was stupid.

>>13998800

It doesn't negate damage, it reduces it. But it reduces it quite a lot though.

And you can only use when you charge as far as I know. But I don't deny that it isn't ridiculously strong move.

>>13998807

So is it only GS, or every charge-capable weapon?

>>13998811

Only GS.

>>13998815

Fair enough then. Still pretty ridiculous.

>>13998823

The motion value on the great sword loses motion value too if you cancel a charge attack into the next one in like iirc

>>13993702

>>13993694

He's not trying to act like some master gamer or anything. All he's saying is that observing other people who are skilled or knowledgeable at some task is a good way to learn more about it.

>>14001679

No. The best thing that ever happened to the series is still when psp emulation happened and allowed people to play MHFU without shit controls.

>>14002146

You can control the camera with the right stick in FU?

>>14002882

With an emulator or a vita

>>14002945

That instantly elevates FU to least shit monster hunter.

>>14003025

Now now, just because World uses a second stick for camera doesn't mean EVERY MonHun that does is shit.

>>14003114

In my opinion it does. Having to contort your hand into a crab claw to to properly move the camera is half the reason a game like world is being made in the first damn place. Ask anyone who is aware of monster hunter and doesn't like it and I promise you almost all if not all will say the shit ass D-Pad camera.

>>14003302

That's part of my point though, despite having controls most people would prefer, World still looks to be worse in pretty much every other way than every prior installment of the franchise. For all the shit claws get, they're not that hard to learn, and most MonHun fans would gladly pick up a claw game over World.

>>14003370

>Most fans would pick up a claw game over world.

That simply isn't true at all. Across every tangential MonHun community I have been on enthusiasm for world is either incredibly high or cautiously optimistic. Full/v/ is the only place I have been in which the overwhelming majority of people hate world. Go to any World video on Youtube and the like to dislike ratio is massively in the positive. There is almost zero hate for world in the wider internet. I have not seen one person complain it has been changed to attract casuals or westerners at all. Most people simply want to play the new monster hunter.

>>14003532

I have yet to meet a single person who's played Monster Hunter and enjoyed it who is considering getting World. Anecdotal, yes, but that is the reality I'm seeing with my own eyes. There simply isn't anything really all that good to say about it.

>>14003563

It is anecdotal. I always preferred the 3ds games over the psp ones but I am giving freedom unite a go right now on ppsspp and I find it janky as fuck even with a second stick for proper camera control. It's mostly menu related stuff, like I can't figure out how to use the feline kitchen. I hired a cat but he won't cook for me.

>>14003581

IIRC you need to queue him up in the list of currently working cooks on the board in the kitchen. It's a weird system, and I'm not entirely sure how to get the most out of it myself, I'm much more a fan of the onsen and drinks in Portable 3rd myself.

>>14003581

Yeah, FU is really primitive if you play it nowadays.

I really want that 3DS emulation gets good enough to emulate MH4u in full speed, cause p3rd is severely lacking in content.

>>14003596

4u is probably my favorite game ever. I've put over 400 hours into it. To me the combat in world feels like an almost perfect shift forward from 4u's mechanics and general feel. The difficulty of the demo wasn't at all impressive though. It's easy as fuck.

>>14003842

>even some people that haven't played the game series before, are eagerly waiting world

Considering the target audience is people who hate Monster Hunter, that makes perfect sense.

>Here no one owns 3ds unless they play pokemon, so I didn't really have anyone to play with (2 from here and few over internet). And no one owned psp or vita. Handheld gaming is pretty much limited to pokemon here.

Do you live out in the sticks or something? I see 3DSes everywhere.

>the areas are way larger than before

If by "way larger" you mean 2-2.5x the size of the normal games' maps, with most of that extra bloat just being more corridors to run through for an extra minute instead of proper loading screens.

>>14003876

I don't think anyone who is excited for world hates monster hunter, anon. They hate handheld and playing 3d games on handheld. I did not even care about monster hunter until I got the Wii U version of 3u and could actually focus all of my attention on the monster. Handhelds suck ass anon. The only reason I got a 3ds in the first place was to play 4u. Having a handheld past the age of 16 is fucking emvarassing for most people. Even a psp or vita. The assumption that most people who are excited for world hate monster hunter is really really stupid.

>>14003890

>I don't think anyone who is excited for world hates monster hunter, anon

Then you are just completely out of touch with reality.

>Handhelds suck ass anon.

What part of "machine that can be taken out to play even on commutes or travel and is where 90% of the worthwhile games have exclusively released for the past decade and a half" is bad?

>Having a handheld past the age of 16 is fucking emvarassing for most people

Why do you care what normalfags consider embarrassing?

>The assumption that most people who are excited for world hate monster hunter is really really stupid.

It's not an assumption though, it's an observation - most of the World supporters are people who either never played or hated MonHun because it required skill and effort on the part of the player. The devs have outright said the entire reason World exists is specifically to cater to those people.

>>14003896

The Dev's have said they brought world to consoles to cater to those people. Because no one in the west rides the train to work and those who do wouldn't ever play their handheld on the train. The potential western audience for Monster Hunter is on console not Handhelds. Handheld multiplayer games are not hot here at all. The majority of people do not live in densely packed hive cities like Japan, anon. Handhelds simply do not attract an audience outside of the playground in the west.

You are also implying that Monster Hunter isn't literally nornalfag central in Japan. It's basically their call of duty at this point.

I don't care what normalfags think, but capcom does. And capcom knows the typical westerner plays console games and not Handhelds.

>>14003904

>The Dev's have said they brought world to consoles to cater to those people

They specifically talked about people who refused to play MonHun because of it requiring you to commit to actions like attacking or using items. It has nothing to do with the platform, and everything to do with how heavily dumbed down the game has become.

>the west

And there's the key problem with World - the target audience.

>You are also implying that Monster Hunter isn't literally nornalfag central in Japan.

Never said that, though that does bring up the question of why you're talking about normalfags not using handhelds when Monster Hunter has been primarily successful on handhelds.

>I don't care what normalfags think, but capcom does. And capcom knows the typical westerner plays console games and not Handhelds.

No, the typical Westerner buys the product they're told to buy for social credit, same as the typical Jap, or really just normalfags anywhere and everywhere. Unless Capcom pays off the (((people))) in charge of deciding what is popular in the West and what isn't, they're not going to get the numbers they so desperately want to the point that they're willing to burn away their entire established fanbase for a chance at it.

>>14003914

If anyone is out of touch with reality anon. Everyone I know that likes monster hunter is utterly fatigued of handheld shit at this point and desperately wants to play world. You are the only person I have ever seen that thinks Monster Hunter belongs on a 5 inch screen with a controller designed from the ground up to cramp anyone without babby hands. The only reason I put up with it for so long is because I love the shit out of these games. None of my IRL friends and coworkers want to play MonHun with me because none of them want to invest in a handheld just to play it, yet all of these people have ps4 and want to play world now. It MUST be because they just hate Monster Hunter. Of course, duh. Wew.

>>14003932

Again, platform is a secondary concern at best here - the problem is that World is nothing like Monster Hunter, and the only people who could possibly be excited for it are people who dislike Monster Hunter, or who simply are ignorant of just what World is compared to Monster Hunter.

>>14003939

Anon… You are just about the only person I met who isn't excited for world. I am a part of 3 monster hunter communities and the amount of people voicing your concerns aloud is a big old goose egg. This isn't meant to argue that because more people disagree with you that your opinions of the game aren't valid, but to showcase that you are definitely wrong about the reaction from the wider fanbase. You are almost entirely alone in that respect. Look up any video on Youtube from Arrekz, GaijinHunter, SOHellkite, or any other big Monster Hunter youtuber for example and the amount of positivity for world is overwhelming. Not suggesting your opinion is wrong here, again I am just saying you lack perspective. World is shaping up to be the first game to break 3 million over here. Regardless how you feel about it, it's going to sell like gangbusters in the states.

>>14003974

What is a nipanon?

>>14003992

>Look up any video on Youtube from Arrekz, GaijinHunter, SOHellkite, or any other big Monster Hunter youtuber for example and the amount of positivity for world is overwhelming.

Yes, attention whores who are known to have business connections with those responsible for World are 100% excited about it, no shit.

>World is shaping up to be the first game to break 3 million over here.

At the cost of the 3 million in Japan and 1 million in the West who bought 4G/U

>it's going to sell like gangbusters in the states.

That's just it - whether it does well or poorly we're fucked. If World succeeds, then no more Monster Hunter, just World. If World bombs, Capcom just thinks Monster Hunter is no longer a viable brand and dumps it. It's a lose-lose situation.

>>14004028

A forced meme where shills try to pretend only one singular Japanese boogeyman is the only person who hates World, or censorship/changes like the extra 50 defense in 3U, or anything else (((the Western gaming industry))) wants people to support.

>>14003992

>You are just about the only person I met who isn't excited for world

>You are almost entirely alone in that respect

There are definitely more people here other than him who aren't excited for it. From the time it was first revealed all the way to now, there have been plenty of people here who weren't. Many people here have been cautiously optimistic at best, which is far from excitement.

>Arrekz, GaijinHunter, SOHellkite

>wow, look at all the ecelebs who are #hyped anon!

Arrekz is a shill, and I do mean an actual shill. He's being rewarded to shill the game. His opinions mean jack fucking shit, and if you're legitimately suggesting that an actual shill's opinions matter, it strongly calls into question how much I should believe anything you say. CuckshedHunter's a retarded Capcom fanboy who acts like anyone who dislikes World is just "salty" that it's not on the Switch, and even made a video just to bitch about how "salty" everyone supposedly is. Which brings up another point; if there's enough negativity over World that one of these big youtubers you're suggesting makes a video just to address it, doesn't that mean that there must be people other than this one anon who isn't excited for World? And, I have no idea who SOHellkite is so I'm not going to say anything specific about him.

>>14003114

>>14003025

I think you two misread each others posts. Either that or I'm braindead, because both of you look like you're replying to someone who said the exact opposite of what the posts actually said.

>>14004028

He's the hero the gaming industry needs, one of the chosen few deemed too autistic even for /v/.

>>14004118

>I think you two misread each others posts. Either that or I'm braindead, because both of you look like you're replying to someone who said the exact opposite of what the posts actually said.

I was being sarcastic in replying to him, because it was such an obvious shitpost there was really nothing else to say to that

>>14004118

>>14004096

I think you misunderstood me. I was not talking about the ecelebs. But the community. The larger community seems to like world. It's not at all like say Star Wars Battlefront II, or Dawn of War 3 where an extremely vocal part of the game's fanbase bombed every video on Youtube with dislikes. There is no such negative reaction to world anywhere to be seen, it's the quietest loss of a fanbase I have ever seen if anything.

Remember the shitstorm when Diablo 3 was announced? That medium sized brouhaha over the game's graphics, gameplay, and real money AH? No such shitstorm for world. The only saltiness I have seen over the release of world is the lack of a localization for XX. I am just saying that the wider fanbase outside of full/v/ is liking the game. Those people aren't going anywhere, especially if the game lives up to their expectations.

>>14004168

>The larger community seems to like world

Yes, normalfags who don't like Monster Hunter like World, that's the whole point of World in the first place.

>The only saltiness I have seen over the release of world is the lack of a localization for XX.

See, now I know you're shitposting, because no one cares about localizations, and XX is pretty much universally shit on by MonHun fans.

>I am just saying that the wider fanbase outside of full/v/ is liking the game

I'm sure Reddit and SA and Tumbler are loving it, since they're not exactly Monster Hunter fans or video game fans at all for that matter

>>14004189

I am talking about people who like are subscribed to those channels, anon. People who were already on the MonHun wagon to being with. People who hate MonHun don't subscribe to channels like GaijinHunter or SOHellKite. I find your lack of reading comprehension absolutely appalling.

>>14004201

>I am talking about people who like are subscribed to those channels, anon.

So, normalfags.

>People who were already on the MonHun wagon to being with. People who hate MonHun don't subscribe to channels like GaijinHunter or SOHellKite.

What? Those are in fact exactly the kind of people who would pay attention to the guy who campaigns for censorship and (((localizations)))

>I find your lack of reading comprehension absolutely appalling.

What lack of reading comprehension? I know exactly what kind of filth you're talking about.

>>14004201

You're one obtuse nigger, holy shit.

>we're going down the "No True MH Fan" route again

I've seen this ending before. When are we getting the Good End?

>>14004216

>looks too easy

>button masher

>this is what normies think of World

I don't know how to feel about this.

>>14004223

>slaughters gaynigger gypceros and wears their skin as a warning to all their kin

>they're still too retarded to understand and walk right into its nest

>cousin genocides khezu, the worst monster

>apparently does such an amazing job that khezu and s. nercs don't even share any maps

>both are super cute and have fun fights

>the way it crawls up to you and tries to spook you to test if you're really asleep

>>14004235

>>14004235

That's odd I remember near universal bitching for two years that there was no English release of 4 in the generals, then I stopped going on /v/ entirely for a year so I never actually saw what people thought of the game.

>>14004230

>I'm saying this because I see lots of people claiming that FU is great and did nothing wrong when it was the game that started to shift the series into something when it clearly wanted to be something much more.

How is that "more?" It's just meaningless fluff.

>do you enjoy playing the victim card every time?

<implying "nipanon" is the same person everytime

>>14004235

>No one makes games for people that hate the franchise

Are you kidding? That's one of the biggest complaints people have about companies like EA when they buy up studios like Westwood or Bioware, that they completely ignore the established fanbase and assume the old fans will buy it on name recognition while proceeding to completely change it into something aimed at people who never liked the series to begin with. This happens all the fucking time.

>Finland.

So, yes.

>I know it is fun to hate new games always.

It's not. I want to want and enjoy World, I really do, but it has gone so far out of it's way at every turn to make that impossible.

>>14004258

FU wasn't that good, anon. It's time to stop. The jank in that game is irredeemable as fuck. 3u and 4u are better in just about every single way.

>>14004256

And when it was announced there were speculation that it will be bad, and then there were crying when demo hit. Demos are always easy, even I was suspicious how easy 4U will be since demo gore barely reacted to anything.

>>14004258

>comparing western devs to eastern

>>14004241

Good ending comes after a week of release. Then the retards either quit the game/see it is good, and the ones that don't even play and shit post switch to another game thread.

It happens with almost every big game that is coming.

>>14004265

I think FU is great. Not necessarily anymore for playability compared to 3U and 4U, but for the atmosphere.

>>14004274

I am playing it right now on ppsspp. Just the way the game feels is awful. Not to mention how long it took me to get started on village shit. Boy being forced to collect 5 mountain herbs for granny has been the highlight of this evening let me fucking tell you, anon. In 4u you learn how to play the game fighting an elder dragon and bang out some stupid tutorial bullshit in 10 minutes then you're instantly fighting large monsters for the caravan and the game doesn't ever stop from there. It's just a nonstop rollercoaster of new shit and a few classic monsters to even it out. Going back to FU feels like a god damn chore. You start the game by doing chores. Climbing takes 50 years, anon. I can't believe I used to like this game.

>>14004265

3rd and 4th gens made plenty of QoL improvements like Item Sets and being able to queue up multiple harvests instead of having to stop by the farm after every single quest, absolutely. That's why I want the series to go in the opposite direction World is taking it - back to the challenge and intensity that 1st and 2nd gen had, with the interface improvements of 3rd and 4th.

>>14004266

>comparing western devs to eastern

Capcom desperately wants to be a Western company.

>>14004289

>Are you this fucking dense?

Are you? The game is about fighting the damn monsters, the extra shit like watching them drink water as opposed to just being in the area is meaningless.

>I didn't even implied that

The fact that you're using the term wholly unironically suggests you either genuinely believe there is one and only one so-called "nipanon" or you're trying to make other people believe it.

>3ds was a major hit in japan

<This somehow invalidates the over 20 million machines sold in the US

Nigger pls.

>>14004301

20 million 3ds sales, in a country that is literally 2p times the size of Japan is not good kids fir a game like monster hunter to take off. You're also not taking into account that the psp sold significantly less units in the US. Which is when MonHun truly took off and became a phenomenon in your country. America literally had no chance when it comes to MonHun getting any kind of audience.

>>14004324

>America literally had no chance when it comes to MonHun getting any kind of audience.

And considering what happens when games get targeted to this country, thank goodness that lasted as long as it did.

>>14004330

Japanese games have always done well here and are well liked here. The 3ds games sold much better than the psp games likely due to the higher install base, but any chance for an actively multiplayer community died due to its handheld exclusivity. World is more than anything an obvious attempt to rectify this. Your butthurt is pretty delicious tbh.

>>14004337

>any chance for an actively multiplayer community died due to its handheld exclusivity.

Why on Earth would you want multiplayer? That completely kills the fun of the games.

>World is more than anything an obvious attempt to rectify this.

By dumbing down the game to sell to complete retards.

I'd like to get into this thread but there's always one guy sperging out 24/7. Is that your resident autist?

>>14004362

Yes.

Things usually get better once the game actually comes out.

>>14004362

There's more than one of them, but don't worry, like >>14004365 said, they tend to disappear once the new game releases so we can actually start talking about things normally again.

>>14004369

>Multiplayer is literally the only reason Monster Hunter as an IP exists in the first place.

That's true, it was made to take advantage of the PS2's network adapter. However, when played in multiplayer, the hunts get abysmally easy to the point there's no point in playing. It's just a happy accident that there's still a good single player game in there.

>>14004347

>>14004379

No. Multiplayer is the only reason Monster Hunter ever got any traction even in Japan. It was never ever billed as a singleplayer experience in any regard. The series has always had a bias for multiplayer coop. Do they sell good weed in Japan?

>>14004388

This.

I only ever play local play with my one friend with a 3ds and copy of the game and then only go online once we beat a hard monster to farm the set/weapon. We've done this fir every game in the series. You really are alone, nip.

>>14004388

It's why the series is as popular as it is with normalfags, but it's completely pointless because it's so boring it can barely be called a game. Like I said, it's an accident the games are as good as they are, though sadly that seems to be coming to an end with World.

>>14004393

You don't have to play online in World.

>>14004397

No, but the game is going to be piss easy even in single player, so there'll be no point playing it at all.

I remember being really impressed by monster hunter's graphics on the shitty psp hardware in 2006. I'm just disappointed, now, by how it runs on the wii and wii u. The wii itself was atrocious, it just didn't look good and the main hub chugged along. The WiiU doesn't even seem to run at native gamepad resolution.

the dithering was pretty bad, though

>>14004399

>>14004393

Then why are you in this thread? Why aren't you playing Hitbox-No Combo List Unite by yourself so us normalfags can discuss the new game at the ass end if the internet in peace? Sticking around to discuss something you hate with people you hate is a sure sign of autism, faggot. I bet you argue with the cashier at Lawson's every time someone reorders a game you don't like.

the wikipedia article for this game sounds like it came straight from a college essay

>Combining ingredients to make even better items is a very important feature in Monster Hunter's gameplay, be it combining a blue mushroom and herb to make a health healing potion or a net and trap tool to make the infamous pitfall trap.

>2017

>being hype for MH: Casual Edition

>>14004406

So things like being able to move while Super Armored through damage or roars from a GS charge, or moving while shooting Bowguns and using items, or dumbed down skill systems, or freely teleporting to base camps to fully restock on items are all demo only, and not in the full game? That's a relief.

>>14004410

>Then why are you in this thread?

Because this is a thread for Monster Hunter, not World, and you fags will all be gone in a couple months anyway.

>>14004438

>his

nerc is fe.m/ale on/ly

The (((Guild))) is always watching, so I can't say "yes". But I'm not saying "no", either.

>>14004410

No one is forcing you at gunpoint to play the game like a casual, anon. Unless you are one. Wew.

>>14004462

> freely teleporting to base camps to fully restock on items

Yeah man, this is complete bullshit, thankfully we still have our ultra-hardcore made-for-japanese-only MHXX and it's alchemy hunting style that's very difficult to use and not intended for easy-mode westerners which gives you an infinite number of healing, stamina recovery, ammo, whetstones, earplugs and damage items with absolutely no consequences.

MHW is definitely the point at which Monster Hunter started to suffer from "casualization" and it's definitely because it's being made for Westeners, it's definitely not something that's been happening to the series for a while now.

>>14004096

>39 replies

>Can't stop saying 4G even when trying to hide his own identity

>Keep spouting autism like "people like to claw!"

Makoto, you should really stop trying that and just embrace your own autism, it's really easy to find you amidst the monster hunter threads.

Just for fun I booted up the 4u demo to see how easy it is from the real 4u which I have been playing to get ready for world. The overall difficulty of the demo was roughly parralell to the difficulty of the world demo.

Great Jaggi/Jagras can be killed in less than 2 minutes. Gore Magala/Anjanath take a solid 5-15 minutes to kill. Both of the monsters kept falling over like the ground was made of banana peels just like the demo monsters in the MHW demo. Verdict, the 4u demo is not at all an indication of how difficult the final game ended up being. The monsters fight and react in this demo very similarly to the world demo. 4u is by no means the hardest game in this series, but the demo monsters fir both were effortless to defeat given the demo monsters.

>>14004168

>implying westerns normalfags actually play games instead of watching other people play for them

>implying the larger community do anything except post about the game on social media and at best play 1 hour a week

Dark souls 3 was the same, no negative reaction and the whole streamer community with the western fanbase creamed themselves even though the people who actually played the game hated the fact that you could heal yourself on pvp and the other change they did to invades, the result was the the shit dying more quickly than dark souls 2. Enjoy your dead game. Everybody who liked MH and played it correctly (no multiplayer hunts) can still enjoy old good titles while you fags waste your money in a game where the multiplayer will be dead in less than a few months

>>14004613

>westerns normalfags

the way you talk feels like or you don't think there are normalfags in the Occident or you are a asian yourself and wanted to scorn westerners without sounding like a faggot yourself.

which one is it?

>>14004586

You do get pretty strong equipment and items for the demos, while the full games start you off from scratch.

In MH4U's demo, the Charge Blade set is the full Brachydios set and weapon. Jaggi and Tetsucabra are both easy pushovers, but Gore is almost on the same level as Brachydios, as in the Caravan quests (so barring multiplayer), you fight Gore a few times in Caravan 3, 4 and 5 before finally getting access to the first Brachydios quest in 6.

>>14004635

>reddit spacing

>not knowing that Gaming streamers on niconico dont pull any close to the numbers your average e-celebs pulls on twitch and their youtube videos

Is just a fact you faggot, the whole watching other people play the game for you is a western thing.

>>14004689

>not knowing that Gaming streamers on niconico dont pull any close to the numbers your average e-celebs pulls on twitch and their youtube videos

Because niconico is actually kind of small site, but monster hunter is still pretty big game there when new installment comes out, and you can find streams there more regularly compared to twitch. So I don't get your point.

>>14004718

>So I don't get your point.

Try reading the post i was replying to

>>14004745

Try not being such a silly goose.

>>14004752

>Be retarded

>gets called out

>continues to act like a obnoxious faggot

What the fuck are you talking about, go be a retard somewhere else.

>>14004764

>muh retard

At least I am not the one crying in every thread. :^)

>>14004539

Are you seriously complaining about alchemy style? The style that gives you probably the worst healing item in the game, ammo/coatings that are only marginally better than Normal 1 and uncoated arrows, and an explosive that takes forever to charge, does practically no damage, and is almost impossible to hit anything with? Alchemy is almost useless, I can't understand why, out of all the styles, you pick this one to complain about. It's the fucking joke style. It's the Hunting Horn of styles. Is there a single weapon type where it's better than even Guild style? Maybe Lance, but no one gives a fuck about any style for Lance that isn't Striker.

Even Aerial is a much better, much more casual friendly style than Alchemy. And Adept is even more casual, and better on almost every weapon than Aerial was. And then there's Brave. Fuck Brave. Whoever thought Brave was a good idea needs to be fired. Brave is worse than any individual thing in World. It's worse than the JE SUIS MONTE spam and Charge Blade getting 40 KO's per hunt in 4U. It's one of the most retarded and poorly designed things this series has ever seen, it makes the game so easy that an infant could breeze through g-rank. And yet you choose to single out Alchemy style. Why?

>>14004774

Stop being retarded, claiming that the gaming streamers on nico nico numbers are not even close to your average western e-celeb because the site is small when you have some Utaite's with over millions views in some of their videos on the same "small site" is total bullshit,Face it faggot watching other people play games instead of playing them yourself is just not as popular as is on the west.

>>14004782

Because he's never played XX

>>14004539

>>14004782

As someone who tried really hard to exploit alchemy style by pushing spe sharp/composed/sh+ to take advantage of the synergy between the HA boosting whetstones and weapons with really low sharpness together with a weapon that benefits from HAs I can confirm without a doubt that alchemy is beyond complete and utter garbage. It takes at least 5 minutes to get enough momentum to keep a constant HA whetstone->SP alchemy boost chain going using the fueru+whetstone combination to actually outspeed your alchemy meter consumption that you need to be drinking alchemy juices (3 bars) for in order to keep your barrel shake and meter growth speed up, that you're lucky to even get 1 HA boost dama in a single hunt. I don't think I've ever in the hours of me trying to use my alc sets have I had enough spare meter to waste some on a 3 bar consuming disposable earplug, the 4 bar consuming fucking FIXED DAMAGE pirate/jump bombs (which amount to a single LBB+ if you land both ) or the beyond useless 'it restores 30 (I will never understand why 30) stamina food' and 'it's just the HP boost from SP mode but costs actual bars'-berry. I tried it primarily with hammer (loses guild golfswing->charge but keeps the golfswing which you otherwise lose with striker) and LS (strong HAs and synergy with SP mode and demon blade) and even when you do actually start to get a constant chain of SP and HAs you barely even outspeed the HA generation rate that striker gets due to how much the motion value costs for HAs get jacked up when you add SP to them, so aside from SP II-IV affecting your teammates as well as you, alchemy does fucking nothing.

Alchemy could have been made something useful, where's the wide area? the dash juices? demon/armor horn or pill buffs? hell a fucking scaled damage bomb like CB gets on every other attack it does? or something interesting like elementally aligned bombs? Anything could have at least made it fill the niche of being an item-based supporter without just being lolmightseedwideareaSnS or a substitute for a build dependant on dash juices or something, but no, let's just make it a shitty version of striker with an automatic SP-mode tap affixed to it.

It really comes back to the generations design philosophy, when I first heard about styles it sounded like a good idea, normally certain weapons are restricted to particular armor sets by the skills they provide, but styles could allow more freedom and creativity by disconnecting the links between things like evasion or crit draw, guard or stamina boosting skills that make certain playstyles more viable. If bushido had been some passive equivalent to guard or evasion skills instead of 1 mirrion i-frames+5 second animation lag every time you dodge, if brave had been more dangerous with the y-mechanic instead of total invincibility, tedious meter building and then mindless spamming, if guild and striker had more dynamic differences instead of one always being a straight upgrade of the other. There's a lot of fun that could've been had in the cross series, but instead we just get ridiculously unbalanced styles paired with ridiculous poorly balanced monsters.

>>14005103

>not wanting it to be a buss rush

GAY

>>14005312

>Thinks Monster Hunter is about the Fight, not the Hunt

>>14005379

I might shit talk FU for what it is but man, it has been a journey like no other, I restarted back with an emulator in the summer and I'm still not done.

I'm extremely close to 3G though, but even after that there is still a way to go.

>>14005394

Have fun unlocking fatalis etc. Those "training quests" have nothing to do with training. 1 cart and it is over.

>>14004539

>ultra-hardcore made-for-japanese-only MHXX

Stop false-flagging, not one person thinks XX is hardcore by any means.

>MHW is definitely the point at which Monster Hunter started to suffer from "casualization" and it's definitely because it's being made for Westeners, it's definitely not something that's been happening to the series for a while now.

The X games were side games by a separate team, so those don't really count. The main games have been getting easier for a while, but this is the first time they've clearly come out and said they're building a game specifically for people who refused to play the games because they're too hard. There is nothing good about that whatsoever.

>>14004549

>Can't stop saying 4G even when trying to hide his own identity

What identity? I'm stating the composite sales of both Japan and the West, because if I say just 4U some nitpicking faggot's going to say that "4U" only sold 1 million so World is going to outsell it because of that.

>Keep spouting autism like "people like to claw!"

Learn to read son, I'm saying that fans will put up with the claw for the games that are genuinely fun as opposed to settling for World just because it has more comfortable controls.

>Makoto, you should really stop trying that and just embrace your own autism, it's really easy to find you amidst the monster hunter threads.

Obviously not if you're getting this desperate to try to find your little scarecrow.

>>14005103

>how hard do you have to be inside your own ass to not see that the devs always wanted to have this incorporated in their games.

I can see that they wanted this, but it's a fucking stupid idea and I'm glad they didn't get to do it.

>So what you want isn't even monster hunter

What I want is what Monster Hunter has been since 2nd gen, not the piece of shit it's turning into.

<this somehow means something even though the US is fuck all huge compared to Japan

You're assuming the sales are evenly distributed across the entire country. Of course it's all going to be concentrated in the civilized parts of the country and barely sell in the flyover states.

>Ah, so you must live near a kindergarten, my apologies anon.

No, just in a city, you idiot.

>>14005349

It is entirely about the fight, the "hunt" is just walking simulator time trying to get to the fight.

>>14004549

I find it funny when people think Japanon is a bigger autist than shillkun when shillkun had more posts in the last thread while also getting caught changing ids like a faggot.

>>14004718

>>14004689

>Why aren't people streaming handheld games online? Boy I wonder!

You are a FUCKING retard. Almost every single streamer for Monster Hunter world on Playstation Live was a jap. The same thing happened when Dragon Quest XI came out and there were thousands of viewers in each channel. I am now following through and filtering you. I can not even imagine how big of a faggot you are in real life.

You have not made a single argument in good faith. I am officially tired of reading your bullshit. You are getting autofilered in everythread I notice you in until the release if the game and I hope everyone does the same.

I wanted to talk about the graphics :(

>>14006227

It looks nice enough except the handler, my main problem is with the animations, shit just seems off

>>14006227

I really like all the small details they added now. Like in the video where they talked how the skin reacts to movements.

I can't wait to see how it looks on pc with max settings.

>>14006227

My favorite part about the new graphics is the amount of detail on the monsters. The Great Jagras looks like a real iguana. The detail around his eyes is especially lifelike. MTFramework is an amazing engine

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Ruh roh.

World is 40-50 hours long. Twice as short as 4U.

https://twitter.com/USgamernet/status/942822537318227968

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/monster-hunter-world-kind-of-short-at-40-to-50-hours?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

>>14006836

World is half as long as a game bundled with an expansion pack? Crazy

>>14006836

>the story mode

I'm not a big fan of world either but isn't this apparently only for the "village" quests?

>>14006836

The monster list got leaked few days ago, and it has way less monsters than 4U.

>>14006865

Village and gathering hall are the same thing in world

>>14006872

That list is old as fuck anon. It's probably real though. You're comparing a vanilla worldwide release MonHun with the ultimate edition of a game with a full expansion. It's a little disingenuous to claim 4 didn't have a similar amount kg hunts when it launched.

>>14006928

Was Bezelguese clever shown?

>>14006870

>A game + Expac is larger than the following release-state game in the series

STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES

>>14006984

I was pointing it out to the other anon, not complaining that game with less monsters should be as long. I don't think understanding context is that hard.

>>14007003

>SocksyBear

Who?

>>14007016

The hopelessly obese actual bigger Capcom USA hired on as community manager.

>>14007016

The black numale who Capcom decided is the best fit for a community manager.

>>14007003

Double *. You're welcome. If you pop over to /tg/ there's a formatting image in their sticky, IIRC.

>>14007034

thanks bro, [spoiler] tags work as well. anyone up for some mhp3rd or mhp2g?

>>14006928

Am I the only person that sees the west coast of the united states on that map with no central America? Is this game 1000 years after trump glasses Mexico?

i really suck at video games

that being said, playing monster hunter freedom on psp it just fucking sucks, all weapons I can craft suck, I don't know how to get the materials for better weapons (meaning those retarded tickets, commendations and monster parts from monsters I've never seen that are probably way out of my leage too), the current quests that I'm supposed to go on are way out of my fucking league, and I have to grind ages for materials. I already have 30 hours playtime, this shit is tedious

>>14007264

Poor anon, you shouldnt suffer through a game that you dont like nor want to play, its not your fault. MHF is old and aged like milk. The game has numerous problems stated by anons throughout this thread. Whomever tells you to play those games are all nostalgiafags, mhfu is not as great as they make it out to be.

Play 3u/4u or world ps4 beta on 22nd, they are the least clunky and most gamer friendly MH games out there.

I want to try God Eater: Resurrection but I don't know anything about it really. Is the multiplayer active? Or is the second game the one to try. Anyone know anything about these games?

>>14007301

>>14007312

thanks guys. Can't really give up now having spent so much time but.. eh I may try to look up bits and pieces of relevant info online (cheat) so I can actually progress at all. Oh well

>>14007345

The games were meant to be played collaboratively. It's not cheating to look up information the game labors to keep hidden from you

>>14007340

I've only played 2 rage burst but it's pretty different from mh, more focus on story and speed and has some cute girls, 3 is in development too. Don't expect a very active online community. And from what I hear 2 rage burst is the one to go with and you should only go back to the first for the story if you care, you don't need to play the first one to understand the second.

>>14007398

Everybody looks stuff up for mh dude

>>14007420

Is the online community dead because the game sucks or it's just not a game with that kind of longevity. What about Toukiden?

>>14007458

Apparently it was hard to stay connected, I never played online so I wouldn't really know also the pc version has Denuvo. And it's a niche game within a niche genre so it makes sense that not many would be playing, that being said I thought the game was pretty good but also flawed so I guess it's more a lack of longevity.

As for Toukiden it's closer to mh and I prefer it over god eater. The multiplayer is probably more alive for Toukiden 2 too.

>>14007482

Would be interesting to see if they handle the incredibly large monster differently from the Morans, Dalamadur and Gogmazios. As well as Raviente from Frontier.

>>14007482

*he's actually lao shan lung but infected with nergigante's or bazelgeuse's eggs and sent to incubate them at the volcano*

>>14007583

That would be really fucking cool if during the fight immature elder dragons were roaming all over it and you have to fight them while dealing with lava godzilla. But he might end up being another Moran style fight where you shoot cannons at it and hope he gets close.

>>14005669

Jeez, you weren't kidding:

>>14006672

>>14006711

>>14008484

We get it, you vape.

how to tell someone that monster hunter is not soulslike?

>>14010877

You can't he is already a lost cause.

Euthanasia is recommended.

>>14010877

If someone is insisting MH is a "souls" game even after

>viewing footage

>getting the general flow of the gameplay explained to him

>telling him about the mechanics

Then he's not worth redeeming.