045cf0 No.13922704
NOT HAVING CHILD ABUSE IS A FAILURE OF THE GAME DESIGNER
https://archive.fo/eO1dX
>The founder of Childline, a counseling service in the U.K. provided by the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, and some members of Parliament have called the upcoming PlayStation 4 exclusive Detroit: Become Human a “repulsive” game for its depiction of child abuse.
>Giving players such a wide breadth of choices is practically a staple of games written and directed by David Cage, and Detroit: Become Human is proving to be no exception.
<wide breadth of choices
Bull-fucking-shit, they all lead to the same outcome anyway.
>Cage has defended his vision, claiming that the game is not entirely about that abuse. He has called the scene “very strong and moving,” and it’s meant to serve a higher purpose in Kara’s story.
>“What’s important to me, and what’s important in Detroit is to say that a game is as legitimate as a film or a book or a play to explore any topic such as domestic abuse,” Cage said.
THEN WRITE A BOOK OR MAKE A MOVIE YOU FUCKING FRENCH HACK. OH WAIT YOU'D BE SHIT AT THAT TOO.
With a title like Detroit: Become Human, you'd think it would be about blacks and escape Detroit. But no, it's crap like every other David Cage game.
04e4ca No.13922722
What exactly am I supposed to be mad about? The fact David cage still makes "games"?
d97522 No.13922725
Indigo Prophecy is an amazing game if you quit just after escaping from the Diner.
80ce9b No.13922727
Cages games may be shit but this is censorship no matter how you look at it.
Censorship is bad, always.
If you want Cages game to suffer from this, you are pro censorship.
045cf0 No.13922753
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>>13922722
I'm still mad over the fact he still has a job and is still breathing, but thats just me. I'm mostly mad because its probably going to be a ripoff of robocop and every other andriod/cyborg/robot movie. I am happy it'll hurt sales though.
>>13922725
I disagree, it's only amazing if you quit at the title screen
>>13922727
>censorship
>David Cage
Nothing was censored here as far as I'm concerned. And you probably cant censor Cage without having him have a sperg out and crying for a month. He didn't censor that fully modeled naked body of Ellen Paige so I doubt he'd do it now.
This being said his shitshows would be alot more exciting if it was nothing but a black screen and embed related playing in the background and progressively getting louder.
30d44a No.13922786
>>13922727
Nothing was censored, did you read the OP?
fe6e54 No.13922789
>>13922760
>conflating videogames with reality
>I CUNT TELL WHAT'S REEL AND WHAT'S NOT N E MOAR
topb8
04e4ca No.13922794
>>13922760
You're so retarded you're probably falseflagging
183432 No.13922795
>>13922789
>videogames
>David Cage
80ce9b No.13922797
>>13922760
Fiction is not reality.
27678b No.13922801
Cage needs to hang himself.
4a0a55 No.13922803
>>13922760
Your retardation is baffling. Have your (you)
fe6e54 No.13922804
>>13922795
you got me there
80ce9b No.13922808
>>13922802
What the fuck have public decency laws have to do with videogames and the like?
045cf0 No.13922811
>>13922773
>he's absolutely, 100% right
>implying its not a meaningless scene he just threw in there for muh emotions
>implying it wont feel really awkward for people playing it and it'll lead to nothing
>Your rage is inordinate
>If you don't, you're a hypocrite and need to fuck off this board.
Where do you think you are?
15a001 No.13922823
>>13922808
Having hardcore pornography on public TV and seeing people die in a videogame are pretty much the same thing, anon. If you don't agree with him you're either in favor of censorship or in favor of anarchy
ff33a5 No.13922826
>>13922704
Yes, David Cage and his "games" are shitty, that's not news to anyone with a brain, but
>She brought her concerns to Sony Interactive Entertainment, the publisher of the game, and has asked it to either remove the violent scene or halt the game’s release entirely.
If it wasn't for the fanfare around this game the game would be canceled by now with this kind of stunt being pulled, and this censorship is being asked by someone that probably has never touched one single game in his/her entire life. Think about that.
>>13922786
Yet.
3b148f No.13922863
>>13922826
Sony wouldn't cancel the game either way, they'd tell the cunt to fuck off. It's not the 90s anymore, if Activision could get away with No Russian and Naughty Dog can get away with the Last of Us 2 trailer, there's nothing stopping Sony from releasing this turd either.
>>13922831
>go to a liberal shithole and kill liberals, niggers and your fellow spics
I fail to see the problem.
8f81fc No.13922864
>>13922704
So is this some sort of loli fucking game?
045cf0 No.13922868
>>13922826
Aye, it's a tricky situation. On one hand I DO want David Cage to suffer, on the other it IS a form of censorship (though I really don't care if David Cage is the only one to get censored.)
Either way if the game comes out it'll be a piping hot mess and I get to laugh at the french retard some more. What I don't look forward to is the amount of asskissing his "fans" give him and the amount of money this'll make because normalfags don't know any better, prompting him to write steal more ideas from popular shit and call it OC donut steel. I expect his next big shit to be battle royale related.
>>13922831
This really isnt the point of this thread.
b75f58 No.13922884
I'm failing to see what the point of this thread is.
>they call it repulsive
And? PETA complains about animal shit all the time. Doesn't mean anything happens to it. A few politicians complain about it as well.
This is just hand-wringing at this point
045cf0 No.13922897
>>13922884
The point isn't to defend Cage. The point is to point and laugh at the french retard or just the french in general
1d2908 No.13922898
>>13922704
But that's absolutely right. Especially if games want any chance of being taken seriously in the "art" section of the medium, they should be able to show all the disturbing shit that movies and books can as well.
Older games you could kill kids, no problem. That little cunt in Hong Kong in DX was just asking to get blown to pieces, and it was okay.
8f81fc No.13922901
>>13922753
>fully modeled naked body of Ellen Paige
He rescued the only good part of her before she hit the wall at 90 mph.
39ed10 No.13922918
Games shouldn't be censored just because you don't like them.
>>13922704
>Bull-fucking-shit, they all lead to the same outcome anyway.
Heavy Rain did have a number of different endings. This isn't to say they're all radically different, you'll pretty much always accomplish the main objectives unless you try not to. You could fail in a number of different ways though and the successful endings did have some significant differences for each character. It's a lot better than the garbage Telltale shits out at least.
9d3434 No.13922931
Leftist Politicians start censoring Leftist "Game" Designers? Is this what some call a win-win?
30d44a No.13922938
>>13922826
Exactly, yet, calling it censorship when it isn't is retarded. Until they remove the scenes or halt production, it isn't censorship.
bd348c No.13922941
>>13922704
>Abloo abloo abloo, censor this, it hurts my feelings
Politely GTFO. I heard NeoGaf is still seeking new people.
184aea No.13922946
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>>13922704
I'm not gonna defend his shit games but he got some talent in writing short or concept/idea for a story, Kara tech demo are very good from a story standpoint, too bad he's gone full cuck with "muh oppreshun" instead of making it about robot waifu
ff33a5 No.13922952
>>13922863
In this day and age, I sincerely don't know what to expect. Canceling would be extreme, but censoring the game is not out of the question by any means, Sony is known for tampering with some games before release due to stuff like this (I could go search for examples but the one I remember right now is how they forced the Ratchet & Clank games to stop having funny/suggestive taglines)
>>13922868
I share the feeling, but think of it this way: this idiot can be useful by using his unearned fame to push what can de done in video games a little further, by setting a precedent with this "big" title, no matter how shitty it is
184aea No.13922954
>>13922931
Slippery slope anon.
fcdf29 No.13922959
One of Childline founder's arguments in the article:
>“I’ve never heard of little girls being beaten with a belt as part of a game. That, in my view, is not just savage, it’s seriously damaging,” Rantzen said. “Who would play such a game for fun? People who are impervious to the suffering of children.”
It appears to be the "if you enjoy playing game/walking simulator with X in it, you probably will probably translate X to real life!" argument again. Best not tell her about the children in Fallout 1 then, she'd faint.
9d3434 No.13922960
>>13922954
>Slippery slope anon
your point? Do you know what Accelerationism is?
f20308 No.13922964
>>13922901
>He rescued the only good part of her
No, he didn't. They only took her face. The rest was a different model.
045cf0 No.13922967
>>13922898
Sure, especially if that disturbing stuff has some sort of impact on the story or gameplay or any fucking aspect of the game.
With Cage however, it'll just be a meaningless scene that people will forget about 5 minutes after the fact and only barely remember it once its over and read (((critic's reviews)))
>>13922901
>Ellen Paige
>good
>ever
No.
>>13922918
>Games shouldn't be censored just because you don't like them.
Agreed. Not advocating for the censorship itself, I just want David Cage to suffer and get his """""vision""""" tampered with.
With Heavy Rain, I will say it was the most entertaining up until the plot twist. Comparing it to his other "work" however, it looks like the goddamn Mona Lisa.
>>13922941
>Missing the point of the thread and not reading it: the post
8f81fc No.13922968
>>13922959
>Best not tell her about the children in Fallout 1 then, she'd faint.
Or just show her DSPs Clementine play through.
f20308 No.13922975
>>13922931
Leftists most of the time can't stand each other either. That's why you have so many different left leaning ideologies.
ff33a5 No.13922985
>>13922938
Like, do you know how the industry works? How things go in the entertainment industry? How marketing and public image work?
Yes, there is no censorship Right Now but we are seeing here an institution asking for outright censorship and people on the parlement virtue signalling against this game. If that's not a red flag I don't know what it is
9d3434 No.13922987
>>13922975
Yes I know this, I am in my 30's. I see this as an opportunity to leverage against the neoliberal establishment. The Left metaphorically eating their own has figuratively redpilled many people over the years.
045cf0 No.13922988
>>13922952
>this idiot can be useful by using his unearned fame to push what can de done in video games a little further, by setting a precedent with this "big" title, no matter how shitty it is
I really dont see how when other games can do it bigger and better. For example, maybe letting you actually do the disturbing stuff? Letting you actually beat your child for being a little shit? You'd actually be playing it instead of watching it. LIVE THE EXPERIENCE
184aea No.13922992
>>13922960
My point is censorship could applied for both side . Its'not a win win if your favorite video games could potentially be censored as well.
30d44a No.13923000
>>13922985
Yes, I know how the industry works, anon. You can't label it censorship when nothing has yet to be censored. Read my posts.
9d3434 No.13923061
>>13922992
that is a very naive point, the only reason the left ever supported free speech was because it was a tool to "politely" subvert traditional institutions. Being pro-free speech is arrogant and does nothing to profit the status quo. The ideal that the best ideas win in the populist word of "free market" of ideas is based on the assumption that man is rational. Yet paradoxically without Logos (God, capital G) there is no metaphysical standard for reason, or presumption that Truth (capital T) is knowable. This brand of Critical Thinking is entropic and does not inherently produce more sound or Truthful reasoning. This presumption that free speech is benevolent is based on a false premise that is a bedrock of egalitarian liberal ideology. The presumption that given knowledge all men are equal Rational and Intelligent and will conclude proper truth's if given the right information. Now that is not to say I support censorship, in fact I am in favor of "Free speech" because I want to subvert the Liberal establishment but to be a universalist free speech advocate is foolish because it forces you to compromise your own principles. Should someone tolerate pedophelia on account of accepting Free Speech? That which is Politically correct is not which is true, but that which is expedient in winning political victory. In this sense, the establishment Left is politically correct in their advocacy for censorship.
9d3434 No.13923070
^sorry unnecessary random capitalization.
536908 No.13923074
>>13922946
<whaaaa whaaaaa he didn't make it about lusting after fictional objects
Your constant obsession with sex will be your downfall.
>>13922952
Isn't R&C E rated? Of course there shouldn't be suggestive shit, are you fucking retarded? A pedo or some shit?
Censoring degenerates wanting to put innuendo into childrens' games isn't the same as censoring adult content from an adult game.
ff33a5 No.13923081
>>13922988
Small steps, anon. Small steps.
>>13923000
Yes, technically your right, but this is almost the same thing as (pardon me the possible strawman) a president of a country saying that he's going to pass a harsh law, and people coming out to say "Ohh nothing has been done yet so it is ok"
90e8c3 No.13923094
>>13922975
Eh it's the bit of the same for us, NatSocs can't stand the Alt Kike for instance
184aea No.13923099
>>13923061
>that is a very naive point
>here some tl;dr of even more naive solution
Unless you live in a NatSoc society with Hitler incharge, you can stop dreaming.
cfdf91 No.13923109
>>13923000
>>13923081
By definition suppression of another's opinion or speech is censorship, you don't need to strip away something that's already happened for it "to count". Deliberately trying to force them to remove the content on their own is also censorship, in fact this is exactly what is happening it's a deliberate false scandal to try and pressure the publisher to in turn force the devs to remove the content, if that fails an adult rating (or 18+) will be slapped on the game until the publisher coughs up the dough or the content is removed.
If you really want to be anal about it the tachnical words for this is soft censorship.
9d3434 No.13923116
>>13923074
>Adults consuming porn is not the same a making porn available to children
this can't be understated. A parent should not be robed the the right to parent their children. But likewise, I believe its only fair that an Adult ought to be free to chose what they consume. Protecting Children from predators ought not be conflated with adult content from an adult audience.
>>13923099
>U A NAZI BRO?!
so you are resorting to a straw man? Or are you honestly to stupid to understand the point?
73c6dc No.13923118
Why are we mad about David Cage saying games should be able to contain any themes? He's not wrong, even if he is shit at everything he does, only surviving by government grants.
184aea No.13923148
>>13923116
Who are you quoting? I suggest you looked up what strawman means. I guess you also want to abolish net neutrality as long as you can censored leftist on the internet?
ff33a5 No.13923161
>>13923074
Next you're going to rally in order to stop companies like disney and dreamwork from putting hidden jokes for adults in their movies
>>13923109
This was what I was trying to get across, thank you anon
05ff4f No.13923167
David Cage is a fucking hack and his games suck, but no, child abuse is not "off limits" for video games. Video games can and should be about whatever the fuck you want. Fuck Childline for this shit. It makes as much sense as a violence counseling service saying that games shouldn't have killing, or a rape service saying that games shouldn't have scantily-clad women. They're literally saying that depicting child abuse creates "child abusing fantasies" and therefore should not be allowed. Saying that games should not and can not depict child abuse in any way is stupidly rigid and blasting somebody because they dared to depict something you don't like is censorship, bar none.
David Cage's games are terrible and he's generally an idiot, but OP here is a faggot for siding with "think of the children" censorship and should fucking hang himself.
71f618 No.13923171
>>13923118
I want to gas half the fucking retards in this thread who are acting like SJWs.
>It'll be cancer anyway, therefore he shouldn't make it
>It'll be PROBLEMATIC anyway, therefore he shouldn't make it
fucking kill yourselves. You just don't play this trash pile of a "game", and mock his pretentiousness and that's it
05ff4f No.13923180
>>13923167
Disregard this, I'm a faggot who needs to learn to read the entire thread before posting, and I suck cocks.
9d3434 No.13923210
>>13923148
I do want to abolish net neutrality. Only a goon would be stupid enough to support giving regulatory control to the FCC.
9606d8 No.13923240
>>13923210
Its okay if the government ideology is aligned with yours but as is stand right now, its not. If that how you think then don't cry "muh freedom" when the government censored this website and put you to jail for wrongthink
2108ff No.13923243
>>13922704
>With a title like Detroit: Become Human, you'd think it would be about blacks and escape Detroit.
>Tyrone, have you herd about savin' n shiet?
>I've herd da stories mang.
>May bee we needz to become betta than gangstas n' shiet.
>Yo I thinks you're right mang we shou-
>BANG BANG BANG
<And dis is how our story ends, we wuz kill n' shiet by Jamal and his niggas.
045cf0 No.13923253
>>13923243
I was thinking more along of forcefully taking negros and turning them white.
9d3434 No.13923268
>>13923240
>Its okay if the government ideology is aligned with yours
I think the confusion is that you are thinking in terms of Liberal democracy. I don't support democracy anon. The government existence is not justified by an electoral process. Just because a majority of idiots vote on something does not make that thing ethical. Argumentum ad populum is a fallacy. Yes in a democratic system with elected officials an informed populace is important and you are correct in wanting to avoid government abuse if your opposition comes to power but that very system is corrosive and sustainable in the long term. I am not the Idealist, you are for assuming that this Modern liberal system is antifragile.
9d3434 No.13923271
767211 No.13923277
>>13923268
And what society do you propose we live under if not a liberal democracy?
9606d8 No.13923284
>>13923268
>I don't support democracy anon
It doesnt matter if you support democracy, dictatorship, etc, my point is you are fucked either way ifs the man that rule over you doesn't shared your view. For a 30 years old man, you have the mental capacity of a 3 years old.
9d3434 No.13923299
>>13923277 (checked)
First off, why are you hopping ID's?
>what society do you propose?
Some brand of hierarchy without Jewry, Theocratic, Monarchism or Fascism. Not unlike Plato's Republic.
9d3434 No.13923313
>>13923284
>my point is you are fucked either way
so you have no point at all? The sky is blue! Should we all become backpack cucks because reasons?
sage for double post
*I wrongly assumed 767211 was (you)
767cb2 No.13923339
>>13923277
>liberal
>democracy
Topkekket.
767211 No.13923363
>>13923299
I'm not hopping ID's. I'm a different person. Hide your autism.
You realise that a liberal democracy doesn't necessarily have to have jewry, theocracy, monarchy or fascism, right?
>>13923339
Are you one of those idiots that think because SJWs describe themselves as liberal that they are? Do you think North Korea is really democratic? Or China is really a republic?
3d52ab No.13923374
>>13922704
I don't care about his game or his story that he'd rather put in a movie but couldn't get the funding for, but those fags need to cry more.
"muh fictional child abuse, pls censor" I wish the UK sank into the ocean already, bunch of freedom hating fags.
He should have the freedom to make his shitty game without some whiny cunt trying to stir controversy as much as anyone else.
>>13922898
>Especially if games want any chance of being taken seriously in the "art" section of the medium
I agree, but it's completely irrelevant in my opinion and not at all the point. I can't believe there's still people genuinely clinging to this "muh vidya as art" meme. Just make fucking vidya, man. You're missing the bus before the plane.
c0dfd3 No.13923385
>>13923299
> Theocratic, Monarchism or Fascism.
This site and anime wouldn't exist under any of those
I love watching you retards try and justify your inconsistent world views, only possible to hold because you live in a basement and don't interact with the outside world
9d3434 No.13923393
>>13923363
>I wrongly assumed 767211 was (you)
apparently you cant read ether. >>13923313
>>13923363
you realize the false ideals of Liberalism is only a tool to ratchet power from the established just authority to the "banana republics" for the "New World Order" (ZoG). Freemasonry is a babylonian cult dedicated to rebuilding the Temple in Jerusalem. Why would (you) support (((liberal democracy)))?
9d3434 No.13923395
>>13923385
who care if this site wouldn't exist. It would not need to exist.
9d3434 No.13923397
>>13923385
also your assumption about anime is unfounded.
217e3b No.13923409
>a “repulsive” game for its depiction of child abuse.
how else are you supposed to depict it? as a perfectly normal and healthy fetish?
fe22e2 No.13923422
>>13923409
>child abuse
>fetish
Anon, is there something you need to tell us?
80ce9b No.13923435
>>13923397
Ever heard of Degenerate art?
And if anime wasnt banned, it would be a propaganda tool, nothing more.
Please spare me the whole "its already a propaganda tool" nonsense.
217e3b No.13923439
>>13923422
one man's disgusting act is another man's fetish
3b148f No.13923463
>>13923385
Oy vey fellow gentiles, if the Nazis had won we wouldn't enjoy animus! Aren't you glad the (((good))) guys won the war?
9f9057 No.13923465
>>13923243
Remove the Detroit part and that is actually Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.
3b148f No.13923471
>>13923465
Escape from Detroit starring a nigger would make for a good movie.
9f9057 No.13923485
>>13923374
How are they freedom hating fags if they told Europe to fuck off? They are liberal cucks but free liberal cucks. Place still needs to sink though.
3b148f No.13923491
>>13923485
>They are liberal cucks but free liberal cucks.
Just because they told the EU to suck one doesn't mean they aren't going to become a caliphate by 2050. Brexit was just the last death spasms of a rotting corpse.
9f9057 No.13923506
>>13923471
Starring Kangz Plissken.
9f9057 No.13923512
>>13923491
More insane Muslims in States though.
9d3434 No.13923532
>>13923435
>I am going to double down and insist my fiction boogeyman is real and not address any of the initial points
Oh so you are actually mentally retarded. For a second I thought you where just pretending.
9802da No.13923553
>child abuse in a video game? this is unheard of!
David Cage is a faggot for sure. But if you think he's the one to be mocking here then you are an idiot OP.
3b148f No.13923570
>>13923435
Because Shakespeare, and hundreds of other writers under monarchism only wrote state approved propaganda. Because Gobbles, the guy in charge of propaganda for the Reich, went on record saying that artistic expression shouldn't be about preaching at people, but giving them something enjoyable and uplifting to their lives. But of course you ignore these points because they clash with your retarded worldview.
The issue isn't the art, it's the society that produces the art. If you have a moral society, instead of a moralist one, the art will reflect that.
>>13923553
Why can't we mock both? The leftist cunt for breathing and Cage for being a hack?
045cf0 No.13923581
>>13923553
>another person not reading the thread
Again, the child abuse itself is not the issue. I'm fine with that, I'm not fine with the censorship. It's pointing and laughing at the french retard for thinking he's breaking new ground.
UAB2 never ever
ac0fd1 No.13923616
Do I like Cage's games?
Not really.
Do I believe Cage is allowed to depict whatever the fuck he wants and do whatever the fuck he wants with his games?
Fuck yeah I do.
David Cage's games don't appeal to me but I can respect his creative vision for them. I don't think he executes his concepts as well as he could but his games are niche and whether they're good or bad has little to no effect on games as a whole. Let him do what he wants. He can explore whatever the fuck topics however the fuck. I don't have to enjoy them, and I probably won't enjoy them, but I don't think anyone can tell him what he's allowed to do or supposed to do.
9802da No.13923644
>>13923570
>>13923581
Childline's being the bigger retard here though, the OP beats a dead horse when there's a live one now galloping in the pastures.
Hell Cage isn't even in the wrong here, the only problem with him using child abuse as a plot point for writing a serious scene is he can't write for shit.
bd3943 No.13923668
>>13923074
>Isn't R&C E rated? Of course there shouldn't be suggestive shit, are you fucking retarded? A pedo or some shit?
You're a dumb fucking nigger. The "suggestive shit" was relegated to immature references that were perfectely fitting a childrens game.
"Going Commando," "Up your Aresenal," and shit like that.
2e60e3 No.13923739
>>13922753
If this makes you happy you need to kill yourself pronto. In fact, maybe I'll purchase his latest game just to spite you ;) Doubt it'll make a dent on sales.
ac629c No.13923764
>>13923506
I guess that image explains the scene where Romeo and Mercutio got high and stole watermelons from Tybalt
89ee51 No.13923781
>>13923299
>Some brand of hierarchy without Jewry, Theocratic, Monarchism or Fascism
This probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard, how do you elect the leader? a vote by the peoples? that would mean democracy, by bloodline? that monarchism. If you don't have any argument why this game should be censored then go fuck yourself and your fantasy government
2e60e3 No.13923812
>>13923277
>he thinks liberal democracy is the best option
You have to go back.
>>>/cuck/chan
889b93 No.13923821
As a french citizen I'm really sick of David Cage's pretentiousness. I wish he would make actual video games instead of "no fun allowed" expensive interactive movies.
>>13922753
>naked body of Ellen Paige
He 3D-scanned her head, not her fridge body.
2e60e3 No.13923842
>>13923094
>implying alt-kikes aren't a controlled opposition for cringey redditors.
7ff360 No.13924373
>>13923616
I support this post
2e60e3 No.13924445
>>13923616
This guy gets it.
39ed10 No.13924458
>>13923074
No, the first four games were rated T. They were made more for teenagers than kids.
9d3434 No.13924571
>>13923781
>>I am openly against democracy
>how do you elect the leader?
an you have the nerve to call me retarded? Quit trying to derail the thread. I am done chasing rabbits. How about you cowardly (1) & done faggot address the issue here >>13923061
"Freedom of Speech" is pertinent to the topic of this thread. Lets stick to that issue.
24fa40 No.13924589
698c84 No.13924632
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>>13922975
B-but it wasnt real socialism, lets try again with me in charge this time.
>>13923393
>Temple in Jerusalem
It goes deeper than this, anon.
Its about re-building humanity, they see man as a rough stone that needs to be "polished". Just like in Biblical terms, the human body is a temple too(1 Corinthians 3:6). Or did you think all this gene editing/transhumanism/transformation/ascension being pushed is just for progress ? thats the 4th Kingdom for ya
Masons are just another shade of Kabala at best, for being mostly composed of golems, with all occult religions being pieces of a huge mystery, that will be revealed(2Tes2:3). Liberal Democracy always tends to reduce into a conflict of opposites to reach a "balance".
Sage for off-topic
119e37 No.13924647
24fa40 No.13924749
>>13924647
So he is an over hyped film nerd who believes himself cursed to be a game director instead of a film director and is too far up his own asshole to stop focusing on every minute visual like you would in a movie and just finish a damn game?
He is like that except western?
9d3434 No.13924757
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>>13924749
>Press X to Jason
but without the "video game" part of the equation. Cage make interactive choose your own adventures. Telltale games without the dialogue choices.
c31d1e No.13924901
>>13922898
>if games want any chance of being taken seriously in the "art" section of the medium
I hate the "games are art" faggots, but this whole thing makes me wonder: where are all the game bloggers that are always crying about games needing to be more "mature" and "tackle serious issues"? Why aren't they all hammering their keyboards and shitting out articles praising and defending him for doing what they've been complaining about for years? This has to be some kind of marketing ploy. "Look at my mature game! Never mind that I have a reputation for shit, it's "controversial", you need to play it!"
8ed1c6 No.13924924
>>13923061
>that is a very naive point
one which you have not properly addressed
would you be in favor of censorship that is politically advantageous for you?
bcd2e8 No.13924930
Are we getting WEBM or what?
What's all the fuss is about?
I need to see the scene myself to form an opinion.
e8a18b No.13925000
>>13924930
This.
"The scene was a big no-no, so we're censoring it." doesn't say much about the scene itself.
fe22e2 No.13925008
>>13924930
>>13925000
Pretty sure it's not a single scene. The whole game revolves around the waifubot trying to save the little girl from her dad.
e8a18b No.13925026
>>13925008
Oh yeah, that shitty movie. I remember seeing the trailer.
It didn't seem to have anything that could be deemed "too much", though I don't doubt the game itself has a scene where the guy rapes the daughter or some shit because "men are bad".
de1186 No.13925027
>Fuck You David Cage
Well yeah, no shit.
91c8a0 No.13925040
>>13922704
David Cage is a hack, but the people trying to get his game blacklisted because it has touchy content are faggots.
Ideally everyone directly involved with this shit would commit suicide, but sadly we live in a non-ideal world.
70af99 No.13925053
>>13922704
you do know that they censored a fucking VN nip game because it had a damn scene were a woman spanked a girl right?
46c265 No.13925069
DAVID CAGE GAMES ARE SHIT
BUREAUCRATS GET HIRED IF THEIR SKIN IS BROWN AND/OR THEY HAVE A VAGINA / BIRTH DEFECT THEREFORE ARE RETARDS AND SHOULD BE OPPOSED AT ANY OPPORTUNITY
ANIME IS GOOD
70af99 No.13925111
>>13925069
>ANIME IS GOOD
>posts shit anime
smh tbh fam
73a1a8 No.13925143
>>13922704
As much of a faggot David Cage is, these UK politicians have no right to force him into censoring his game over shit that they have no qualms with being portrayed in TV, movies, books and radio shows.
14d732 No.13925171
>>13925111
The ending was shit, not the whole animu.
ed4746 No.13925175
>>13925026
Yeah. I watched that trailer and thing that really bugged me was, how could he afford a robowaifu because he looked like the stereotypical white trash middle income family. I would think it would cost a little more than a computer but I guess he could make monthly installed payments on it, I guess. Then it makes little sense he'd by her if he was going to treat his daughter like shit anyways. Probably shouldn't give too much thought to a David Cage movie since it seems to be going through the standard robots are human revolution and likely a really stupid twist near the end.
7012a6 No.13925177
Now with 0% autistic laughter and 100% more overplayed music!
f5465d No.13925188
>>13925171
>>13925069
>>13925111
Actually ending was fucking perfect.
Kids satisfied their lust and moved on with their lives without ruining them and those of their relatives.
Stop hipstering over good animu just beause it's popular.
adcbbc No.13925202
>>13923616
10/10 post would suck the tip a little bit
David Cage is a fucking hack but if a fucking hack can't put whatever goddamn bullshit he wants in his fucking hack game then this isn't America, goddamnit.
85b7a6 No.13925210
>>13922727
>>13922704
>the uk government pissed about depiction of child abuse
>uk government pissed off because theyre the monopoly of child abuse
e8a18b No.13925211
>>13925188
>You see all these girls that like me?
>cool shit, right?
>let me fuck up any chance of a relationship with all of them because I love my sister
>only to get cock blocked by her because she doesn't want to do anything with me
Great ending, top shit.
f5465d No.13925221
>>13925211
Except he banged and "married" his sister before most likely moving on to the goth one, did you actually watch it?
e8a18b No.13925238
>>13925221
>banged
When?
>married
Yeah, a fake marriage. With all the costs of a real one, except without the rewards.
>moving on to the goth one
Then breaking up with her because muh sister.
Did you actually watch until the end?
f5465d No.13925246
>>13925238
Did you really expect them to show the banging act? They had plenty of time to do it.
Well maybe he didn't move onto her, who cares, sister was the best girl either way.
46c265 No.13925248
>>13925111
Oreimo has super deep human interaction, it's no wonder it went over the head of a pleb like you.
e8a18b No.13925279
>>13925246
>they had plenty of time to do it, so they must have done it
Nice head canon, faggot. Shame it isn't true.
>Well maybe he didn't move onto her, who cares, sister was the best girl either way.
>makes her brother fuck up his relationship with everyone only to not date him
Yeah, real trash girl.
>>13925248
I want to forcefully interact deeply with the sister.
8ed1c6 No.13925285
>>13925143
>over shit that they have no qualms with being portrayed in TV, movies, books and radio shows.
This is why games should be considered art like the rest of those things
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/04/supreme-court-masterpiece-why-jack-phillips-wont-custom-design-cakes-same-sex-weddings-column/917631001/
f5465d No.13925312
>>13925279
You're salty and wrong because ???
e8a18b No.13925327
>>13925312
>Kirinofag
>best argument is "no u"
Like pottery.
46c265 No.13925339
>>13925279
How quaint, but muh dik took total control long ago.
f5465d No.13925348
>>13925327
You didn't bring any aruguments yourself, yet never refuted any of mine.
You're pathetic.
e8a18b No.13925423
>>13925339
She's cute, but a cunt.
I normally don't like mind break, but it's the only way for her.
>>13925348
>headcanon
>arguments
Wew.
46c265 No.13925547
>>13925423
She is so needy and bonds so strongly, I'm sorry but my dick is the physical manifestation of the eternal nature of genes and they have recognized traits in their advantage that my rationale would take decades to understand, meaning Kirino needs to get impregnated immediately. Plus those pinkish cheeks.
5666d9 No.13925851
>anon being tsundere towards tsundere itt
It's like poetry
9f2bf2 No.13925960
>>13923363
>SJWs aren't da real librulz
Cry me another story I've heard a million times before you reddit spacing retard.
>>13923385
>This site wouldn't exist
No, it probably would. Maybe certain boards like /cuteboys/ or /monster/ wouldn't and the latter is sorta arguable but the site would be fine.
>If my country was NatSoc/Fascist Anime wouldn't exist and neither would Japan
Where do you niggers even come up with this shit?
>>13924901
When they say 'tackle serious issues', They mean their issues. The ones they care for, political issues.
89ee51 No.13926051
>>13924571
>"Freedom of Speech" is pertinent to the topic of this thread. Lets stick to that issue.
Thats the point dumbass, without freedom of speech, your whole livelihood are solely dependent on the ruler. In your perfect world of "hierarchy" goverment, you are fucked if you disagree with the ruler.
d97522 No.13926064
>>13925960
It's true, the Nazi's were giant weebs, which is why they were allied with Japan. Hitler, being a failed artist himself, naturally identified with and appreciated anime & manga - which is largely created by other failed artists who couldn't find real jobs.
dc0421 No.13926078
>>13926051
And in your 'perfect' world of no hierarchies, you're fucked if you disagree with the collective. Shoo shoo, commie goblin.
9f2bf2 No.13926084
>>13926064
Hitler's favorite anime was Oreimo, afterall.
It's widely believed that assassination attempts were made on him by traitors, or those who thought his leadership needed to be replaced, but in truth it was due to a declaration of his. Near the end of the war he had declared the Best Girl to be Ayase
His suicide was never due to the fact that the Soviets were coming to rape his people and destroy everything he fought for, but because he could never be with his true waifu. polite sage for offtopic shitposting
>>13926051
You keep saying that but I still haven't seen any examples. Just seen anons telling you that ain't true and showing why it isn't.
89ee51 No.13926097
>>13926084
>You keep saying that but I still haven't seen any examples
Go to North Korea and talk shit about the supreme leader
>>13926078
>And in your 'perfect' world of no hierarchies, you're fucked if you disagree with the collective
No you're not, that the point of freedom of speech faggot.
6958e6 No.13926100
I love how Pedowood movie can have a full on rape scene of whatshername when she was something like 10 years old and be called stunning and brave but not video games.
Also, never forget what these people did to Rule of rose.
9f2bf2 No.13926105
>>13926097
>Go to North Korea and talk shit about the supreme leader
They're communists and thus irrelevant.
>No you're not, that the point of freedom of speech faggot
Yes you are. Plenty of people get fired, harassed, and end up losing their livelihood just because they said nigger one time, and that's just in America. In Europe you will go to jail for far lesser things, and these are the supposed 'liberal democracies' you defend.
2e60e3 No.13926123
>>13926097
>north koreans are now NatSoc
89ee51 No.13926139
>>13926105
>They're communists and thus irrelevant.
You could swap communist with anything and it still the same without freedom of speech.
>Yes you are. Plenty of people get fired, harassed, and end up losing their livelihood just because they said nigger one time, and that's just in America
>In Europe you will go to jail for far lesser things
Then that's not freedom of speech now is it?
89ee51 No.13926144
>>13926123
who are you quoting?
e47c7d No.13926151
Beyond Two Souls is the least bad of the bunch. At least in the 4-5 levels where you're not handling female relationships and you're thrown against ghosts or niggers in Africa. Reviews bashed it precisely because the story is more like a videogame, than a movie.
9f2bf2 No.13926156
>>13926139
>You could swap communist with anything
No you can't. Specific Ideologies apply here, and that's whats being argued.
>Well it's not freedom of speech so it don't count
These countries hold themselves up as Liberal Democracies in favor of free speech yet don't 'truly' have it. What a stupid person you must be to have defended them.
Additionally, did you forget that I included America in that? Do you also believe Free Speech doesn't work in America because mob rule or 'the collective' decides its wrong?
If you go by that argument, free speech has never existed and never will.
89ee51 No.13926161
>>13926156
>Specific Ideologies apply here, and that's whats being argued.
No, freedom of speech is whats being argue here, what do you think this thread is about retard.
>These countries hold themselves up as Liberal Democracies in favor of free speech yet don't 'truly' have it. What a stupid person you must be to have defended them.
Where did I defend them faggot? I'm defending David Cage rights to create what he wanted.
9f2bf2 No.13926179
>>13926161
>No, freedom of speech is whats being argue here, what do you think this thread is about retard.
You argue that certain Ideologies are wrong because they don't necessarily have freedom of speech, though. Are you simply retarded, or do you realize you've driven yourself into a corner and have no way out?
>Where did I defend them faggot? I'm defending David Cage rights to create what he wanted.
>>And in your 'perfect' world of no hierarchies, you're fucked if you disagree with the collective
>No you're not, that the point of freedom of speech faggot.
You also never answered me. America has Freedom of Speech, and it hasn't been interfered with on a significant level by the Government, yet people will still be fucked over by the collective for daring to actually speak freely. Your idea is fucking retarded.
89ee51 No.13926221
>>13926179
>You argue that certain Ideologies are wrong because they don't necessarily have freedom of speech, though
I didn't it was wrong, I said you are fucked if your ideologies clashing with the goverment ideologies, hence the need for freedom of speech.
>"here's proof"
>theres no proof
What are you trying to say?
>yet people will still be fucked over by the collective for daring to actually speak freely. Your idea is fucking retarded.
You don't have to go to jail and you didn't get censored, thats a win in my book. If you fall under the pressure from the collective, then that is on you. Or would you rather the government drag you out and beat you on the street for wrongthink?
9f2bf2 No.13926255
>>13926221
>I didn't it was wrong, I said you are fucked if your ideologies clashing with the goverment ideologies, hence the need for freedom of speech.
That's even more retarded. Plenty of Nations have gone by where Freedom of Speech was never a thing, but the common man was never 'fucked' if he disagreed with those in charge. Not to mention that the mere idea of freedom of speech lets people subvert and destroy it, as we've seen in just about every modern western nation by now.
>>theres no proof
You were literally defending that in the post I quoted though. Are you partially blind as well as retarded?
>You don't have to go to jail and you didn't get censored, thats a win in my book.
>Sure, I may be jobless, I may be homeless, I may have been completely socially ostracized and have no family or friends I can turn to, and I might even get assaulted by the occasional passersby, but it's still a win!
Yeah no. You have no freedom of speech when the collective decides you don't. You don't get a choice in the matter, it's simply you getting fucked.
762688 No.13926291
>>13926255
> Plenty of Nations have gone by where Freedom of Speech was never a thing, but the common man was never 'fucked' if he disagreed with those in charge
Like what? since you said plenty, I'm sure can give me 3 examples
>Sure, I may be jobless, I may be homeless, I may have been completely socially ostracized and have no family or friends I can turn to, and I might even get assaulted by the occasional passersby, but it's still a win!
That is the price for your believes, whether you are willing to uphold it or not is up to you, the choice is yours. Freedom of speech protect you from the goverment, but not other peoples. So you are the type of peoples that let the collective decide what to say and what to do? Go kill yourself then.
9f2bf2 No.13926312
>>13926291
>Like what? since you said plenty, I'm sure can give me 3 examples
Macedon, Gaul, Carthage, The Roman Republic, The Roman Empire, Greece. That was more than 3 but I can keep going. It's actually significantly harder to find a nation where the common man was fucked if he spoke something the leadership disagreed with before free speech had become popularized than afterwards.
>That is the price for your believes, whether you are willing to uphold it or not is up to you
The same can be said of Jail-time, so fuck off. It'd actually be better to end up in Jail where you've got 3 Meals a day and 24/7 Protection than it would be to wind up homeless and a complete pariah.
762688 No.13926339
>>13926312
>The Roman Empire
Are you fucking retarded? I guess thats why pagans was fucking murdered for not being a christian.
>The same can be said of Jail-time, so fuck off
It's not the same because you are not breaking any laws. So you rather live like sheep than die like a lion? color me surprise
9f2bf2 No.13926346
>>13926339
>Are you fucking retarded? I guess thats why pagans was fucking murdered for not being a christian.
Except they weren't. Pagans were persecuted under Charlemagne more than any Roman Emperor.
Also, you still were proven wrong. Admit it, faggot, you don't know shit.
>It's not the same because you are not breaking any laws.
Who cares? You lose everything at the end of the day anyways. If the punishment of expressing free speech is the same regardless of whether it's the Public or the Government enforcing it, you're still getting fucked in the ass regardless.
>So you rather live like sheep than die like a lion?
No, I'm not a freedom of speech cuck, I'd much rather be able to say what I want *without* having a mob descend on me if I decide to say something controversial.
762688 No.13926392
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>>13926346
>Except they weren't. Pagans were persecuted under Charlemagne more than any Roman Emperor.
>They weren't persecuted by Roman Emperor, just this one Emperor, that doesn't count.
Sure.
>Who cares? You lose everything at the end of the day anyways
You don't, this nigger have more balls than you
9f2bf2 No.13926405
>>13926392
>Sure.
Charlemagne wasn't a Roman Emperor, you dipshit. Do you even know who the fuck he was you illiterate nigger?
>You don't, this nigger have more balls than you
Haha, no. I do find it hilarious that you keep backpedalling and ignoring half of my arguments since you have no way to respond to them and now resort to telling us how much you lover niggers. Does complimenting tyrone after he's done with your wife just not cut it for you anymore?
762688 No.13926420
>>13926405
>Let the collective decide what you say
>not a sheep
>post a guy what defend his believe
>"lol nigger lover"
Sure man
1d2a72 No.13926422
i swear to fuck, the pretentious vidya artfags of the future are going to look back at these <current year> posers and cringe at what they tried to pass off as "serious" and "mature" video games. In the future, hipsters will realize that the true artistic value of games is (obviously) more akin to architecture or sculpture than novels or cinema. They'll make beautiful games that employ narrative and character-building in subtle ways - if at all - and mock mercilessly the faggots that tried to pass-off over-serious cartoons as mature and thoughtful works of art.
This industry is in dire need of contraction and I hope the culling takes faggots like this and the whole "cinematic storytelling" meme with it.
9f2bf2 No.13926444
>>13926420
>Let the collective decide what you say
Yes, in your ideal world, that's exactly what would happen, you do want to do that, but I don't, and that's why I'm arguing with you here. Because I do not want cuckolds like you trying to tell me how important it is that Communists and Shitlibs get their two cents in while they vote away what few rights we've got left. You've cucked on literally every point now, this will be the last.
8abc34 No.13926475
>>13923821
>David Cage
>actual video game
Pick one, anon.
And the only good thing to come from Cage's shitty games are the TBFP's Let's Plays of them. And the soon to be released Spookycookies' supercut of their Omikron LP
762688 No.13926480
>>13926444
>Yes, in your ideal world, that's exactly what would happen, you do want to do that, but I don't
That's what you are doing right now you cuck
9f2bf2 No.13926493
>>13926480
>That's what you are doing right now you cuck
No it isn't. Not wanting to lose your job for saying Fuck Niggers is normal, you stupid cuckold. Perhaps the brain damage is why you keep giving up every talking point; You can't fucking read half of what anyone says.
762688 No.13926500
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>>13926493
>Not wanting to lose your job for saying Fuck Niggers is normal, you stupid cuckold.
Normal for cucks like you maybe
9f2bf2 No.13926533
>>13926500
>You want to be able to have free speech?
>WHY DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? WHAT ARE YOU A LOSER?
No wonder you love niggers so much, you're as intelligent as they are.
86cbf8 No.13926554
Daily reminder to call him David De Gruttola as it's his name.
762688 No.13926563
>>13926533
>I have free speech but I'm too much of pussy to use it because I'm a wagecuck.
lmao
9f2bf2 No.13926571
>>13926563
You aren't even trying to be coherent anymore, you're just saying you hate freedom of speech and are a cuckold.
762688 No.13926587
>>13926571
I'm not but you are because you're a wagecuck. I can say what I want and nobody can tell me to stop. You on the otherhand doesn't have that luxury of freedom of speech because you are not free in the first place.
9f2bf2 No.13926621
>>13926587
>I like niggers
>But i'm not a cuckold ok
Sure thing bud, tell me more about how much you like the BBC while you live off your mommy's dollars.
762688 No.13926653
>>13926621
I dont like niggers and I can say that I dont like niggers unlike you. You practically sucking BBC dicks om a dai;y basis because you dont want to be called racist by others, wageslave is a bitch ain't it :)
9f2bf2 No.13926664
>>13926653
Oh boy, looks like I hit your soft spot. You keep talking about how much you lover niggerdicks while mommy counts her bills lad, because unlike you we don't believe in calling down da gubmint on people who say things we don't like.
5f9823 No.13926673
>>13926563
For your sake I hope you never go outside.
762688 No.13926696
>>13926664
lol, did the fact that I have more freedom than you break your mind?
>>13926673
I dont live in a niggers infested ghetto, I think I'm safe
9f2bf2 No.13926718
>>13926696
>Muh mommy bux freedum
>>13926673
Don't worry, they never do. Sunlight hurts them, as does human interaction.
762688 No.13926745
>>13926718
>Too stupid to understand the concept of freelancer and self-employed
wagecuck everybody
3d52ab No.13926752
>>13923485
>How are they freedom hating fags if they told Europe to fuck off?
They'd make Orwell turn in his grave with the amount of mass surveillance they got going. Also, just because they did one thing right in fuck knows how long doesn't mean they're suddenly free of all their shackles. What kind of idiot way of thinking is that?
>but free liberal cucks
Nice joke.
9f2bf2 No.13926789
>>13926745
>He's only now trying to pretend he doesn't live off his parents
Nice try, now go make your bed.
9d23dd No.13926797
Fuck this thread is in dire need of Robowaifus
also
>NEET who never had the knowledge nor experience on how to run a country derails his thread by his own drivel
Nice good way to show yourself as an useless 'visionary' you stupid shit. You could read up on previous great leaders all you fucking can but in the end, you're just fantasizing your """"""perfect""""" country since you have no idea on how to get the common people that is 90% filled with Normalfags to even consider the alternative to the current system.
>inb4 no trickery jewry tricks
>>13926745
>Freelance
Not really a good way for a secure long-run income unless you got long-term contracts and shit like that. Other than that, you're free without the corporate red-tape
>Self-employed
Please don't tell me that you're a vlogger / amateur web artist
762688 No.13926803
>>13926789
>Wagecuck mad he's not a free man
Keep making your jew overlord richer man
9f2bf2 No.13926825
>>13926803
We went from "I'm a freelance bro" back to admitting he suckles off his mother's teat. When she kicks the bucket in 5 or so years you're really gonna be lost.
762688 No.13926861
>>13926825
>We went from "I'm a freelance bro" back to admitting he suckles off his mother's teat
>Putting words into other peoples mouth
Why are you this desperate? You made a fatal mistake of admitting to be a wagecuck on anonymous imageboard and now trying to force random shit on me. Good luck though, you will never know.
9f2bf2 No.13926899
>>13926861
>S-stop putting words in my mouth
Nah, you made it obvious when you sperg'd and lost your shit that you're a no-life who lives off mommy's paychecks. I'd tell you to get a life, but all you'll do is throw a fit and scream to your tired, beaten down caregiver about how mean people are on the internet next time you demand more hotpockets.
8bc9d8 No.13927138
>>13922704
Calm your tits, man.