/v/ - Video Games

is it linear obstacle course after linear obstacle course with the sole exception of each world's hub?

>>13887024

lotta secret stuff i like. Like wearing a costume that attracts birds or posesseing a goomba and walking it around the open world to a waiting female goomba and such. I can see why journo mode adds blue arrows for some stuff but its really fun. Feels like 64, sunshine and galaxy all had a baby instead of something reinventing it again.

Though kappy makes me hope kirby has this level of scope. but we know it wont.

>>13887043

It happened to me, it will happen to you someday anon.

>>13887057

>not enjoying gameplay

You better not be a storyfag or i swear i will bully you so hard mark will have to step in.

>>13887060

>"he plays the game for the gameplay"

>you somehow think that means I don't enjoy gameplay

Holy shit, you are a fucking idiot OP.

>>13887008

What the fuck have you been doing for years where you haven't had fun?

>>13887008

>Get to the end of new Donk City

>Feel genuine joy for the first time in years

The festival should have been the end of the game. I knew that the moment it was happening. There was nothing the end could do that would be better than that one moment.

>>13887089

true, but kill la kill starring bowser from the devil may cry series was okay.

>>13887077

AY YO HOL UP

>do you feel

I do. Been playing through Ocarina of Time for the first time and I have been having way more fun than I expected.

>>13887008

>Buy Mario Odyssey

Okay.

>Get to the end of new Donk City

Alright.

>Feel genuine joy

Sounds about right.

>for the first time in years

Aaaaand you lost me. You've been joylessly playing vidya for years? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>13887043

Please kill yourself, and this is coming from someone who doesn't touch mario games

I feel that joy whenever NISA doesn’t get a game to fuck up.

Mushroom Kingdom>New Donk City>Hat World>Mexico World>T-Rex World>Beach World>Snow World>Lake World>Food World>Tropical World>Samurai World>Moon>Forest World>Darker Side of the Moon>Cloud World>Dark Souls World>Dark Side of the Moon

>>13887176

"Years" is hard to believe, but "A year", i could certainly buy. Hell, last time I had any real fun with vidyo was Snake Pass, and that was at the beginning of the year. Truly fun new games are a bloody rarity.

>>13887008

>not forced politics

>Pauline is a Mayor

>Mario crossdresses

>Niggers everywhere

But it's the best Mario since 64. Not as good as 64 as the levels prioritize fun to the detriment of challenge, the camera is somehow worse than 64's, and the movement is awkward although this might just be because of the absurdly tiny sticks and blue joycon.

>>13887222 (czech'd)

Surely you haven't played all of the amazing gen 4/5/6 games yet. There's enough great games already out there to last a lifetime.

You didn't buy your switch did you?

>>13887232

>prioritize fun

>fun doesn't coincide with challenge

eh?

>>13887255

Challenge isn't fun. You don't have fun dying over and over. But you shouldn't play a game for fun, you should play it to become a better person, through challenge.

>>13887273

There's a solid ~3 really fun games released ever year, and while you wait for those titles, you dig through your backlog. I feel genuine joy playing some new (to me) game at least once a month.

>>13887041

>journo mode

Ah thanks I was trying to remember why I had marked this game off my list.

>>13887349

I don't even think a NEET is capable of burning through every good gen 4-5-6 game in a lifetime, assuming you take shitposting breaks.

>>13887454

I actually hope its real

That shit looks comfy as fuck, any confirmation yet?

>>13887472

Its real, US and Canada only.

>>13887302

I'd love Odyssey 2 with a much bigger New Donk City tho. At least 4 times bigger.

>>13887472

>cereal is comfy

This meme has gone too far

If Mario eats cereal does that mean he has to poo it out? Asking for a friend.

>>13887491

I don't think the US understands the sheer luck they have when it comes to Cereal products. You have so much choice, so many different styles and tastes you can choose from, and it's all just you.

No other country in the world has that choice for cereals.

I moved to the uk a few years back and if I go to a tesco there's rows over rows of shitty muesly cereals that looks inedible and maybe 4 brands that actually don't make you want to kill yourself.

God this place sucks

>>13887541

What if I'm both?

>>13887543

>Reddit and Memey cereal and sauces

What?

>>13887503

Comfy is a codeword for Shit.

>>13887543

That and lack of the monsanto shit and corn syrup, i remember a US friend having to get dr pepper from mexico and the uk because the US version changed the recipe to be basically diluted cough syrup with carbonisation.

>>13887569

>eating WHILE smoking

Ew

>>13887569

>that post in the pic

Yeah, god forbid someone wants to enjoy their saturday.

>>13887567

In 30+ years of Mario and Zelda, it was only in 3 CYE that they crossdressed. Clearly this is not political but was a technological limitation with old hardware.

>>13887561

>Nigger speak

>>13887024

I hope so. Those are the best parts of Mario games.

>>13887629

Of course he is, he blog posts on reddit and goes to reddit, but he is also just having a good time on a saturday morning.

>>13887349

I'm a NEET and I still have entire systems I haven't gotten around to touching. Gotta check out the Amiga some day.

>>13887675

this is some real quentin tier logic. He's not allowed to do something in the comfort of his own home because others disapprove?

>>13887701

No, the attention whoring is what pisses people off and instead of circle jerking they giving him a lesson to enjoy a saturday if he wants to, but he should keep it to himself cause nobody cares.

>>13887586

Confirmed for neurological infant. Your utter lack of comprehension of why the image is utterly terrifying proves that you are identical to the person therein. You will never create anything that anyone remembers. You will be forgotten as just another ant in the maze of generic drudgery. Your name is worthless even to your closest friends.

>>13887722

i already addressed that part.

>>13887725

>he says all of this on an anonymous video games discussion board

holy shit, how fucking high and mighty you must feel.

>>13887730

>I am too mentally disabled to read five sentences.

>Even if I were to read them, I wouldn’t comprehend what they mean, either to me or to another person.

>I am utterly incapable of introspection, subjunctivity, or abstract thinking.

>I am therefore, in a fit of incredibly depressing irony, incapable of comprehending how the other responses to the initial image:

>>13887629

>>13887569

>in blue and in orange here, apply just as readily to my own life as they do to the one in the image itself

>HA HA! WHY would you EVER want to have a MEANINGFUL conversation in ANY context? There is NOTHING deep to be gained from THIS location, in particular! It is YOU who feels superior to the people around you, not ME!

Five years or so ago, your behavior would have made me really sad. What makes me sad now is that I don’t care about helping you get better anymore; I just know you have to die for society to fix itself.

>>13887701

1. He eats garbage cereals like froot loops while smoking like a pleb.

2. He's a redditor.

3. He's a manchild.

4. He's an R&Mfag

5. His life is so pathetic that reliving childhood saturday mornings are his highlights.

All of these are forgivable to a degree except for the fact that he thinks this is a proud achievement. He's basically your typical attention whoring lolcow. Like many in vid-related.

>>13887776

Holy fucking shit, the mods deleted JUST those posts. I know Mark’s a kike, but fucking HONESTLY?

>>13887775

Again, you're on the highest horse around.

>>13887776

He's a redditor, all those things are endemic to them. And fuck you, froot loops are fine.

>>13887800

>autistic rage at things he doesn’t understand

Go buy more froot loops, faggot.

>>13887800

Fuck you. Froot Loops is shit. Sam can shove his nose up his ass.

>>13887795

I said to a degree.

>>13887796

>>13887786

Oh fuck, I thought you were shitposting the game.

my apologies, carry on.

>>13887823

No worries. OP’s spot on with how New Donk’s ending felt for me, too.

>>13887776

>He eats garbage cereals like froot loops while smoking like a pleb

Who cares?

>He's a redditor

Strike one.

>He's a manchild

Where do you think we are?

>He's an R&Mfag

Who cares?

>His life is so pathetic that reliving childhood saturday mornings are his highlights

Where do you think we are?

>He's basically your typical attention whoring lolcow

That's not what an lolcow is. He just seems like your typical depressed millennial who's trying to make the best of the hand he was dealt.

So you didn't notice that they censored the cover of the game? Nintendo's fans just don't give a single fuck. You can censor anything.

>>13887352

Because the game has an easy mode that you don't have to turn on? Is it too hard for you to resist easy mode that you just avoid every game that has it?

>>13887214

>Fore World that far down

Nigger what? Best OST coming through.

>>13887859

You're posting on a board owned by a fat jew who loves weeb big bang theory, and you're going to sit here and bitch about some random faggot's choice in cartoons?

>Manchildism is only prevalent in Nintendrones

If you don't have a wife and kids by the time you're 21, you're a fucking manchild. Surprise surprise, that describes just about everyone here.

>>13887861

The joy of a challenge in vidya is beating it and then bragging about it because everyone else is too much of a lazy scrub to know what you can get when you achieve 100%. But thanks to Googletube and super guides, now everyone will damn well know.

Also fuck you all. Eating cereal on saturday and watching Rick and Morty is based. Suck on it altrightfags!

>>13887214

Fuck you're so wrong

>>13887933

>politely saging OT is reddit

nu/v/ in a nutshell.

>>13887952

>That describes almost everyone in the west

Correct, which is why claiming it's a phenomenon unique to nintendo fans is fucking ludicrous.

>Also, are we not allowed to make fun of pretentious cartoons anymore?

Make fun of whatever the fuck you want, but never forget where you are.

>>13887988

>Sonic Forces fag unable to comprehend a thread that isn't 100% shitposting and furfagotry

Sounds about right.

>>13887591

>they wear a single costume that triggers you

Next, you'll claim that Loony Tunes was indoctrinating kids into crossdressing in the 40s because wearing female clothes has always been in comedy routines.

>>13888465

Are you responding to the right person? I literally can't make sense of your post.

>>13888465

Uhh but the Looney Tunes had some pro-American WW2 propaganda cartoons. And I believe that the good guys lost that war therefore its kike propaganda as well.

I really am enjoying the post game of this. It's definitely one of the best games in the last 10 or even more years.

>>13887008

>buy mario odissey

dubs

>>13888477

He said Mario and Zelda had crossdressing, thus are clearly Jewish ploys to indoctrinate the masses, despite crossdressing being a comedic thing in almost every culture.

Hell, Japan is very open about that kind of shit and crossdressing from either gender is seen as a fairly ordinary aspect for social events.

>>13888480

I'm shocked that a country produced media that stated they didn't want to lose a war.

Russian cartoons and movies glorify communism, but they're still incredibly good for viewing.

>>13888526

The whole political debate is a misdirection. The thing we should be concentrating on is this game is the most dumbed down Mario experience ever.

>>13888569

Haven't played it, wouldn't know, but the majority on /v/ who have seem to like it, and Nintendo doesn't shill on western sites as much as the other guys, so it might actually be anons having fun.

>>13888498

kys

>>13888490

It's okay, it definitely succeeds in capturing the feeling of fun. However, the main issues are: post-game it becomes very grindy, most of the game is real fucking easy (thankfully there are a few challenging sections at the very, very end), and there just aren't enough kingdoms and a lot of them aren't very big. I did 100% (all costumes, 999 moons, etc.) it in less than a week though, so maybe I ruined my own experience

>>13888597

>Nintendo doesn't shill on western sites as much as the other guys

But they do nonetheless. You're fooling nobody.

>>13888623

:))))))))

>>13888626

>ea, ubisoft and zenimax shill constantly

>it's barely a scratch compared to the rest of the shitposting

>nintendo only shill on native language sites as they don't understand us

>this causes the majority of the userbase to like a title

?

>>13888612

>lmao everyone is a poorfag xd sour grapes

Not an argument.

>>13887503

It'll tell you it doesn't mean what that anon thinks it does.

>>13888642

Shilling is a jewish invention. It shouldn't be allowed at any level.

>>13888668

I'm not impressed.

>>13888678

post something more impressive from previous marios

>>13888711

Nigga are you high?

Mario Odyssey is almost GOTY

too bad for it that Hollow Knight was released this year.

>>13888711

It really just isn't that impressive, look at it again. I haven't played the game yet but will soon. There doesn't seem to be any fall damage, so the first roll on the ledge isnt very mandatory. The zap up the building seems mostly automatic, and then it's just a hop to the next one. Seems like it'd be something very easy to pull off when you know the mechanics. But then again, like I said I haven't played the game yet. Plan on getting a Switch with Zelda and Mario soon.

>>13888774

Is it really that good? I keep hearing faggots here praising it.

>>13888783

>you said all this shit when you could've gone

KIKES ARE DESTROYING GAMES AS A COMMUNIST EFFORT TO MAKE EVERYONE STUPID

>>13888796

Pirate it and find out.

>>13888796

Do you like Metroidvania style games? If yes, then you will like it. It really is a very good one.

>>13887922

You're pretty fucking stupid. There's late-game moons in Odyssey that are very difficult to get. There's plenty of bragging rights to be had you fucking failure, finishing the story just isn't one of them.

>>13888783

>there doesn't seem to be fall damage

The objective is speed, and while there isn't fall damage, if he wasn't rolling then a high fall would cause mario to be paralyzed for a couple seconds upon landing.

>and then it's just a hop to the next one

It really isn't "just a hop", he built up enough speed to make that gap. You can't do a normal jump and get there. Rolling at max speed requires careful, repeated timing of the button press that increases your speed. And if he did it at the wrong angle then running against walls would slow him down.

You're watching a speedrunner who makes the mechanics look easy because he's practiced for hours upon hours and saying "there's no skill there at all, it looks so easy!" Because the player MAKES IT LOOK EASY. Because he is skilled.

Where is the hat porn

>>13887302

>This game's strongest feature is that it completely goes against the standard open-world model and instead crams everything interesting into a tiny space.

That's basically Mario 64 which was done that way to reuse assets and experiment with the possibilities of 3d since 3d at the time was still new. Still ended up being better than most other 3d platformers generations after.

>>13889698

>liking games

gtfo redditor

>>13887454

>Play smash brothers with friends.

>Everyone uses Amiibos.

>Link, Mario, Donkey Kong, etc.

>You bring out your secret weapon.

>It's a box.

>>13887843

>Who cares?

People like you deserve the shit you get through out life.

>>13887008

mario odyssey feels untouched by the ravishes of time that have been trying to drag video games through the mud of 'entertainment industry'.

i dont feel quite as terrible all the time knowing that theres still people out there with the budget, know how and passion to make games that meet the standards i was raised on.

>>13887503

Of or pertaining to warm happy feelings, often of Nostalgia, or of a humble, cozy, Homestyle life. Animal Crossing or Harvest Moon are particularly Comfy. This cereal can be considered comfy because it speaks of 80's and 90's advertising, back when the prize was actually in the box, and Sega-fags bragged about their superior version of the Aladdin game.

>>13890191

>their superior version of the Aladdin game

Lol

>>13888774

>Mario Odyssey is almost GOTY too bad for it that CupHead was released this year.

FTFY

>>13888678

>>13887503

>What does 'comfy' mean?

it's the feeling anon gets when the part of the brain that is stimulated by human contact accidentally trips on for the first time in months.

normalfags call it nostalgia

>>13890219

Gotta give Sega one thing though.

The Game Gear was awesome. I still have mine from when I was a kid. It's like the AK of the handheld world. You could drive a fucking tank over it and it would still work.

>>13889084

> Rolling at max speed requires careful, repeated timing of the button press

actually it's motion controls

>>13890257

I thought it was generally understood that the manufacturing of them was done on the cheap and ended up using shitty capacitors that degraded well before they expected to. Gameboy usually work pretty good today, but GGs I've seen seem to have sound/screen issues directly from this.

>>13887008

I know the feeling man.

That level was amazing, and they nailed it perfectly. Especially because the music kinda sicks with it and it feels all-round great.

One neat detail I noticed in the game:

When Mario gets near one of those radios (or the musicians in Donk City), if you wait a couple of seconds he'll start dancing.

On neat bit though, is that at first the dancing animation seems kinda slow and suddendly it changes speed. Why?

Because the animation is syncing with the music being played. Try it, get near a radio, and watch him. He'll take a second to sync up and them dance to the correct rhytm.

Also, vid related. It goes with anything.

>>13887008

>mario game

>is fun

in other news the sky is blue

Mario is the biggest nintendo cashcow and they treat him with the reverence he deserves

the day Nintendo makes a non fun Mario gave will be the day vidya finally dies

>>13890289

the game boy is the Schwarzenegger of vidya

not only did it last more than a decade and survived gulf war bombing

it's also one of the only old school console with third party add on THAT ACTUALLY WORK

my only regret is that it's succesor the GBA did not live as long a lifespan

>inb4 faggots get flustered that you like a nintendo game

>>13890405

its an oasis in an ocean of sewage. its fine to like it more than bread

>>13887089

But anon, the ending was better than the festival

>>13890414

thats fine too

>>13890412

The standards for what's great shouldn't be lowered just because everything else is shit. Odyssey is a fun game, but it's hardly the pinnacle of video games.

>>13890452

>Everything else

Aside from AAA theres plenty of good stuff out there.

>>13890452

who is lowering standards?

>>13888783

once you get a feel for the controls you'll see

>>13890399

It's ok to like nintendo games

It's not ok to like nintendo because they're jews just like everyone else

>>13897102

We don't just sage and move on here sir, we get digits. Observe.

>>13887454

The cereal Amiibo just gives you coins and hearts. Nothing special.

https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/super-mario-cereal-from-nintendo-and-kelloggs

>>13890383

Is this funny because I’m suicidal?

>>13887232

You dumb bastard.

Pauline is the mayor because being the princess of the city wouldnt feel urban enough.

Is mario feminist because princess peach is the ruler of the mushroom kingdom?

>>13887024

>he lists Sonic Forces as good

>>13887517

>Tesco

There's your problem. Tesco don't have shit. That's why I switched to shopping at Sainsbury's

>>13900208

i can always appreciate sonic games for their cheese and music but i think sonic fans deserve a better game.

does forces have a good soundtrack?

>>13897663

>Is mario feminist

It is now. Peach does the stronk woman who don't need no man routine while Mario gets recast as alt-bowser who is also harassing Peach. The dam really broke on SJW influence in Nintendo games with Odyssey.

I just wanted to discuss Super Mario Odyssey.

>>13907947

Oddysey is undeniably a good game, but it's not anywhere near as good as people are making it sound.

I had a ton of fun with it, but it's funny to see that every criticism people had for Donkey Kong 64, they're now praising Mario Oddysey for.

I feel like Im the only one that fucking hates Mario Odyssey

Its hours of the most mediocre item hunt imaginable, you don't unlock anything with challenging gameplay until after you've beat the game, but by then I was too burnt out playing scavenger hunt the game. Not only that but the new more difficult challenges you unlock also need to be hunted down. I don't want to waste time looking for what might be good, and what might be just another moon that I need to groundpound out of some dog's asshole

shit game

>>13914111

Banjo Kazooie?

It's not the greatest, I thought it would be groundbreaking even my normalfag brother who cried for joy when he got the game even feels let down. The movement and combo-ing jumps and shit was real good but I felt level design was shit in a lot of levels.

>>13915178

Jesus, fuck off. You have done no contribution to this thread outside of using buzzwords and namecalling. If you didn't like the game, then that's okay, but what purpose is there to further post here if you don't like this thread?

>>13917493

Reported for shitting up the thread from your very first post.

>>13890259

It's the Y button too dipshit, no speedrunner is gonna waggle when there's a button available.

>>13917755

>no speedrunner is gonna waggle

>even though its faster

>>13917651

agreed

>>13915173

You forgot your bait tag, Mein Fuhrer

>make it to New Donk City

>do a lot of stuff, get through the big festival

>things are great

>about to leave but decide to walk around city to see if I missed things

>some guy sitting on a bench, talking to himself

>"man, this city, let me tell ya "

>decide to jump on the bench, Mario sits down after a bit

>guy turns to face me

>" Hey pal, you ain't from around here are ya. Everyone in this city always just keeps walking on by. Thanks for hearing me out, take this"

>gives me a power moon, called Reaching Out

I don't even know why, but the thing just got to me.

>>13914111

Nah you're not the only one (though I wouldn't go as far as to say I "hate" it). The fact that those few hard levels give the same reward as simply groundpounding a sparkly area in the same level makes the power moons effectively meaningless. For example if I can get 400 moons from doing hard or easy levels then that 400 number has no value and 100% is the only thing that really has value.

I also hate how wall jumping removes your hat jump because it's an inconsistency in Mario's movement that you have to keep in the back of your head. Mario should feel natural (which he otherwise does), not have me keeping track of logical exceptions

Most of the dress-up moons just being a glorified key to a moon rather than having some challenge that made you feel like the thing you were dressed up as was also a severely missed opportunity.

In the end the game felt like a whole lot of sideshow attractions trying to get my attention for 2-3 minutes before moving on to the next one without fully exploring the previous. In that sense it works pretty well for a handheld game you play on the train to and from work, but for those of us who aren't Japanese or autistic enough to play our Switch in public it feels underwhelming.

I will say though that speedruns have been quite entertaining because they already, by nature, strip the moons of their value and so the focus is on routing and execution.

100% runs are not gonna be popular as they involve several hours of farming and resetting the same area for coins. That's all I have left to do, I've already got the gold sails.

>>13923127

agreed, you explained it better than I could

you used a good word there, sideshow

I feel like the majority of this game is sideshow, and the actual good stuff is tucked away like how sideshow stuff would be in another game

As an example when I was playing this game I felt like I was doing absolutely nothing for the longest while, and then when I was finally presented with some challenge in I think the snow level first, it was to my surprise I actually started failing a lot, not because it was difficult, but because I had no idea how to actually play the game. It had been so easy and mundane before hand, that when the game actually expected me to use some semblance of ability…I just didn't know how, I hadn't been trained at all. Then that one tough challenge would be over and I would go on to breeze through things until the next tough area. The 2d levels are the biggest offenders of this, each one is completely meaningless in every respect, you simply run to the right, doing nothing, it isn't until post game where one or two 2d sections require some sort of skill or timing to beat, but once again, the tools to train you to do it just aren't there. The game feels like an absolute mess for me to play, bumping around getting moons for free cheapens the more difficult moons to get, and when I actually want to compete and do a more difficult moon challenge, I need to hunt for it. I do not want my mario game to be like my zelda/metroid game

But hey that's just me

>>13887922

I know right? I had to return my NES Classic and SNES Classic because several of the games had "password" options right on the main menu where I could skip straight to the last level. Some even had "cheat" codes (clearly added for the likes of Polygon) that trivialize the entire game!

No.

I don't care for Mario 64 style games. They aren't fun to me.

>>13890249

someone's a bit bitter about life.

comfy is a feeling of being happy while alone. That's all.

>>13897616

It's funny because life has suffering in it and people think the best way to deal with it is to be sad and hateful, as if that's how you deal with it.

Comedy is laughing at tragedy, and through that you overcome it and life becomes better through your own perspective.

Oftentimes the situations you find bad aren't really as bad as you think and that most of your suffering is self inflicted. You're the obstacle to your happiness, so if you make peace with yourself and change what you can to make a better future, you can be happy.

Happiness doesn't come by having a lot of shit, it comes through overcoming yourself and holding yourself to a better standard every day. You're suicidal not because you you hate the world, but because you hate yourself. That's fucking dumb, you don't deserve that sort of treatment, get out of your own way and live.

>>13908469

The only major problem with DK 64 is the tedium of having to switch characters constantly. There's more good about the game than there is bad, and it gets more shit than it deserves.

>>13888490

>It's definitely one of the best games in the last 10 or even more years.

That's not a very broad statement at all haha, nope.

>>13926472

more an implication that the last ten years have been pretty shit for vidya.

2007 was ten years ago.

>>13926466

I'de just say DK64 is a game that's not for everybody and is for the people who genuinely love collecting shit. If they removed Gloomy Galeon or at least cut down a lot of the underwater segments in it I'de probably replay the game a lot more than I already do.

>>13926472

It's the best Mario since 64. I'd not buy a switch for it, but it's a must if ever picking one up.

>>13926847

So you haven't played it?

>>13926859

I've got all the moons and killed hardmode bowser. I've played it.

>>13926847

>It's the best Mario since 64

That was Galaxy. Odyesee is the best Mario since 3D world or Galaxy 2.

>>13926881

Galaxy was a disappointment. The levels were all over the place, had none of the tightness of 64, and none of the challenge. It relied heavily on a gimmick. Odyssey has a little more challenge and much more interesting levels, but still nowhere near the focused and cohesive experience of 64. But it was clear they want to go back to what made 64 work, and it was definitely a step in the right direction.

>>13926800

It probably had the best bossfights and setpieces of any of the Rare collectathons. Level design, I don't think was as bad as Tooie. I'd have to play it again to say.

>>13926892

>had none of the tightness of 64

And Odyesee's shit was? Shit you're ofyten just running in Odysee not doing shit. Galaxy has a lot more interaction in more of it's gameplay than Odysee.

>and none of the challenge

>64

>high challenge

Be real here. No Mario game has had a modicum of challenge once you learned the controls. Which is why no game has surpassed 64 which objectively has not been surpassed in controls since.

>It relied heavily on a gimmick

>he said when Odysee was nothing but gimmicks

Galaxy kept the gimmicks fresh. I was tired of possession after the second world.

>But it was clear they want to go back to what made 64 work

And failed spectacularly.

>>13926909

Mad Jack is still my favorite boss of all time even if the "weee" shit from Tiny Kong got annoying when you played it. Devs definitely overlooked how annoying that would get if you did it over and over again. Fungi Forests boss was some of the most tense shit even if it was a repeat of Angry Aztec's. When that platform started dropping you would begin to sweat and it was the shit because of that.

>Level design, I don't think was as bad as Tooie

It's better by far. Tooie's character switching was much worse because the character switch platforms usually only had 1 or 2 per level and in were annoying places. If they removed Cloud Cuckooland from that game nearly 25% of my issues with it would be gone.

>>13926892

There is so much to pick apart from your posts but i'm so tired. Just so you know, you are a fag.

I'd be curious to play a DK64 romhack that just lets you pick up items as any character. See how much that alone improves the game.

>>13926935

>Be real here.

You've probably forgotten that some of 64's stars were moderately difficult. It'd be worth doing a 100% run as a refresher as it's legitimately hard relative to what we have today after 21 years of decline.

>>13926979

Every Mario game has some stars that are moderately difficult. Even Galaxy had one or two.

>>13926991

I don't remember any in Galaxy. It was what disappointed me the most, the drop in difficulty between 64/sunshine and Galaxy.

>>13926999

Luigi's purple coins.

>>13926979

I've 100% the game more than a dozen times and have played just about everyworth while Romhack for the game. The only stars you could attribute as difficult are some of the 100 coin stars.

>>13926999

>I don't remember any in Galaxy

What the other anon said. Purple coins were fucking hell. Especially the rocket/mine galaxy that had an autoscroller where you couldn't miss a single one.

>>13927001

I did all those and don't remember them being more than disappointing.

>>13898977

>cute girl with giant tits

>Mario's right in the middle, you cant ignore it

Why do artists ruin their own work like this? I've never understood it.

>>13927034

>all those

It's a level

>>13927145

>jumping is hard

>>13905120

>i think sonic fans deserve a better game.

Like Sonic Mania?

>>13927172

It's more you can easily box yourself into dying if you don't know the line you're supposed to take.

>>13927172

Confirmed for never played that shit. There's nearly no room for error and you have to plan a route ahead of time. As far as difficulty in Mario games go that shit's on another level.

>>13927212

I 100%ed it and I don't remember ever getting stuck on anything. I remember it as a disappointment. Perhaps you are just bad at video games?

>>13927212

You do realize you only need 100 of those, right?

>>13927182

you only need 100/150 coins to get the star. Looking at the level, I remember doing it on my second go, and I think any retard should be able to figure it out on the third, or fourth at most, if they've gotten that far in the game.

You just have to do the map in a big circle , and come back into the middle on the way back. You leave yourself a path back the start and you're done.

Mario galaxy and Mario galaxy 2 were piss easy. I got 120 stars in both, and also with Luigi in Galaxy 1 and was so dissapointed when it was all over. There was some good shit at the end, but not nearly enough.

That's actually my big problem with Mario games. Some of them do have challenging content, but its usually at the end of the game, meaning I have to play through so many levels that are boring as shit before I actually get to anything that's at all fun.

>>13927224

Name a harder star in Mario 64.

>>13927231

I do. And It's still more challenging than the majority of the game and just about anything in 64. What's your point?

>>13887008

nova donkgrad was a realy fun and refreshing world

>>13908469

>>13926466

>>13926800

The problem with DK64 is that not only was the platforming terrible for most of the characters but every way to progress involved switching to the right character for the right gun to hit the switch or to use the right pad, or the meh minigames.

>>13926892

Galaxy is lame. No challenge, no exploration, condensed and constrained worlds that you just go through in a straight line of platforming setpieces that get's old after 40 stars. 3D World is lame for similar reasons.

>>13929927

I don't see how an example of a 2D Mario game, which is supposed to be linear platforming setpieces, helps you when I'm talking about 3D Mario, especially when the franchise has Mario 64 and Sunshine under it's belt. The open world meme for those two games are very annoying, but those games gave you way more freedom as a platformer then anything Galaxy provides. Galaxy is supposed to be this epic adventure in space, but when you strip away gravity gimmick it's the equivalent of going to corridor to corridor of the same set pieces of platforming that get's boring very quick and offers little else. To accompany this feel, the game is so constricted that more then half the time you don't have free camera control.

>>13929982

>what I like is more valid than what you like, because

>>13888737

>holding right and jumping: the game

>Shit at fighting games

>Won my first ever online match period in Tekken against what was clearly some MLG Steve no-life who's played the game for centuries.

It's like the sun came out at midnight and put a spotlight on me for a while. Felt fucking good

>>13887922

>The joy of a challenge in vidya is beating it and then bragging about it

Ohhh, I see. You're upset that it doesn't give you achievements on your Xbox Live profile. Got it.

>>13929994

We are arguing our opinions and both trying to justify why we hold these opinions. "what I like is more valid than what you like, because" is exactly how most of these discussions go and both debate it out why what we like is more valid then others. What is the issue? Can't hold up your opinion?

Galaxy was a streamlined departure of what came before. Some like it, some don't. I don't like it at all. Not to say they aren't fun, I beat both Galaxy games completely.

>>13930011

Wrong thread faggot, prepared to be bullied.

>>13887922

Okay, I made that post before reading the rest of yours. Epic troll friend xD +1

>>13930035

Maybe 64 was a poorly focused departure from what came before.

>>13887586

what was the pic anyway?

>tfw I beat sw2-l1 of sm3dl in 34

>>13923158

>>13932569

>Dude, what kind of "depth" will there be with a simple penalty added or not falling damage where people will find a way to bypass it anyway like how it's possible on 64 and Sunshine?

The difference is that sunshine and 64 make you find a way to bypass it, where as in odyssey you don't have to worry about it. Sure, it's a "minor" detail, but it still adds to the game and its world.

>>13932740

I wouldn't even call it purely a minor detail. Pressing B while you're falling adds extra momentum forward which can flub a landing if it needs to be specific. If you've ever seen experts play 64 they often do a B press id way through a jump instead of a long jump because it's almost as long. There's actually a video that goes in depth on this and describes the nuances between the Z jump and the B dive. Wish I could find it.

It's funny because Mario Odyssey has a higher punishment for unprotected long drops because of the longer stun time. Why would skilled 64/Sunshine players need to care about a couple points of health?

>>13932906

>It's funny because Mario Odyssey has a higher punishment for unprotected long drops because of the longer stun time

My guess is you never played 64 before and you're lying. Stun times in 64 on soft surfaces put you headfirst into the snow/sand/whatever which was incredibly longer. And hard surfaces drops half your health if I recall correctly and still has a stun time and kills all momentum.

>Why would skilled 64/Sunshine players need to care about a couple points of health?

Because the punishment for dying is all your coins are reset. Which is a lot of progress if you're going for that star.