dbbd4d No.13868626
Every IP that's owned by ubisoft. Including Rayman, Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia.
3bb26a No.13868639
a4fae0 No.13868642
a4cb50 No.13868644
>>13868619
THREADS THAT CAN BE GOOD BUT THE OP IS COMPLETE SHIT
>you're in one
Now that I used that opportunity, SEGA is not bad, just Sonic Team keeps fucking up.
>>13868633
get it to /leftypol/ if you please.
5d934d No.13868658
fa05b6 No.13868674
>tfw Square owns Tomb Raider, Thief and Deus Ex
a4cb50 No.13868679
>>13868658
Thank you kindly. Too bad it isn't real.
aee579 No.13868687
Sega is fine, they've been publishing some good shit.
The problem is that Sonic Team is completely incompetent and they have been for the past 15 years
a4cb50 No.13868728
>>13868658
>mfw it blew up
3a0dd4 No.13868763
a4e53b No.13868779
>>13868674
Tomb Raider was just the Uncharted or Assassin's Creed of its day aka entry level trash that only casuals liked or were interested in, and got yearly releases that quickly killed all potential.
4e99a6 No.13868804
>>13868619
Sonic is the Nas of game characters.
fe1d9d No.13868821
>>13868619
>the company is complete shit
I think you meant the fanbase.
65c7ed No.13868835
>>13868619
>Company
>Spawned hordes of furry scum and autists
>It's the company
5a00b9 No.13868849
>Forces could have been easily cracked open for mods
>Denuvo Anti tamper
>Not sure if it's Sega of Europe or Sega of Japan that are trying to force people to forfeit any rights to distribute their mods if they use any official outlets despite that being illegal in america and (I could be wrong) Japan
>Mania could have paved the way for Retro Engine S3&K and a PC version of the currently mobile exclusive Sonic 2 and Sonic 1 games
God fucking damn it
5a00b9 No.13868854
>>13868804
Sonic is network-attached storage?
a4cb50 No.13868873
>>13868804
Sonic is the Nationalist American Socialist of game characters? I remember seeing fanart of Tails in Nazi outfits, but I can't recall any with SONIKKU
aee579 No.13869110
>>13868922
Fire Emblem cannot be good, it was born to be shitty mobage
120eac No.13869147
muh pachinkos
muh stocks
muh trading cards
95b966 No.13869429
>>13868674
>tfw Rick Dangerous was left to rest in piece leaving Tomb Raider to suck the cancer.
>>13868922
>Shitty tedious strategy game
>Good but raped to death
>Good
3928c6 No.13869476
>Original game became ruined by removal of good content, shitty WoW combat ripoff, and MTXs
>Old School reboot ruined by faggot mod peddling his pride event
>Idle Adventures development canceled
>Chronicle community down to a trickle
>Stellar Dawn never ever
But hey, at least we have RS Remastered to look forward to…
6c955b No.13869489
>>13869476
I always wanted to like Runescape, but back then I was a poorfag that couldn't afford more than the free stuff, and even then I had a fairly good time. I wish I could ever experience all the content now that I can, but that seems impossible now too.
57c58d No.13869561
Sonic is a mediocre platformer that just happened to be the mascot of Sega in the 90s and because of it the corporate fanboys still keep clinging on it for whatever bizarre reason.
I mean seriously, what's the thought process of Sonic fans? I could understand if they wished for a new fast-paced platformer or something but no, they just want new blue hedgehog games. The character is more important than the gameplay apparently.
2e90b6 No.13869570
>>13869561
>tfw every series except the one you like is shit
b5c806 No.13869626
>>13868894
Dynasty Warriors is exactly what it wants to be.
57c58d No.13869655
>>13869570
No that's not the point. I can give you some examples. As a kid I liked Crash Bandicoot and I still think Crash Bandicoot games are descent games. I liked the first three, CTR and even Crash Bash. However, I'm glad naughty dog did the right thing and just stopped milking it and instead started a new fresh series when they moved to PS2. Of course some merchant tried to keep the series alive with some god-awful sequels but no one in their right mind should even care about that shit. There's other video game series I feel exactly the same like Spyro and such. If I was a Sonic fanboy, I'd probably think the 16-bit era games are great but that Sega should've known when to stop instead of making all sort of cartoons and whatnot trying to milk the fanboys in the most imaginable ways possible.
I just fucking loath these kind of fanboys who keep clinging on old stuff even when the original authors have abandoned it, like with Star Wars. The first 3 were great but everything after have been absolute trash yet they keep milking it anyway because there's a guaranteed market of fanboys who will buy anything with a star wars logo. I'd much prefer if they had made a completely new series with a fresh take on the space adventure genre instead of making more of the same. Still, at least with Star Wars you have the interesting universe. With Sonic you don't even have that.
What's so appealing in Sonic that makes you want more of the same? I just don't get it.
1a33c1 No.13869680
>>13869561
>>13869655
>What's so appealing in Sonic that makes you want more of the same?
Sonic is anything but more of the same.
The thing about sonic is that it's more then just a game franchise. almost from the get go there were multiple cartoons and comics. and even the games them selves go in radically different directions.
With Mario there say 2D Mario and 3D Mario games and some are a mix with how they play but they all have a concistancy to them consistency. There were Mario cartoons, but they didn't last as long.
But with Sonic there Classic style, Adventure style, Sonic Advanced, Boost Sonic, the story book games, The archie Comics, The british Sonic comics, Advnetures of sonic the headhog, Sonic STAM, Sonic underground, Sonic X, Sonic Boom, and more.
Every one of these incarnations of Sonic was Someones First Sonic.
There are fans that abandoned Sonic long ago and there are some who only got into Sonic recently, There are so many subgroups that all want different things. what people want from Sonic is on a person to person level.
3928c6 No.13869704
>>13869489
>>13869616
Osrs isn't entirely shit just yet, you can still make a fresh account and get a good feel for what the community was like back in the day as well as have a decent time. But with faggot mods slowly eroding the fiber of the game from the inside it's only a matter of time until the game becomes RS3.
57c58d No.13869728
>>13869680
How it's still alive and how some people still have a desire for more is just beyond my understanding. I just don't get the appeal of this kind of franchises. The fanboys would rather buy a shitty sonic product than a descent non-sonic product.
1a33c1 No.13869765
>>13869728
Thing is that Most Sonic games aren't bad. it's just when ever a bad one does come out everyone and there mother for some reason says "SEE SEE every Sonic game is shit."
There are more good Sonic games then bad.
956270 No.13869788
>>13869765
A couple of years ago, most of us agreed Generations is a good game. Now it's shit, apparently. If anything, this is the Sonic cycle. A game comes out, most people like it, years later people declare it was always shit.
1a33c1 No.13869807
>>13869788
Most sonic games are flawed but it's like as soon as those flaws are noticed then that's the only thing that matters.
Like no one is capable of liking something despite it's flaws.
0318d6 No.13869819
>>13869626
Have you seen the shit in Dynasty Warriors 9?
It's gonna be Dynasty Warriors 6 all over again.
91114f No.13869844
>>13869753
Midair never ever?
5f40b7 No.13869870
>>13869844
Apparently it’s dead right now. Given it’s $30 to buy into the beta until they make it f2p I’m betting it will stay dead until then. It might be alright if they don’t let monetisation fuck it up.
24ea91 No.13869892
>>13868619
I even think the mobileshit could be pretty alright. I'm amazed that they managed to kill it with their incompetence.
f41bb5 No.13870218
>>13868619
>template thread
>thinks sanic could ever be good
>>13868849
12 GAME OVERS
c35227 No.13870314
>>13868619
Mass Effect, Dead Space. Wait, are we allowing series that died due to incompetence?
5a4ff7 No.13870356
>>13868847
I swear if V and VD focused solely on Single Player it would have been pretty fucking great.
5d1acf No.13870406
There needs to be an actual competitor to this shit. The core concept of the Sims is very solid, but EA has to jew fucking everyone always, Maxis can't figure out how to program a stable game to save their lives, and they think no one gives a shit because the primary target demographic is teenage girls. For every one good idea they come up with they come up with two bad ones. For every glitch they fix in an expansion pack (Jewish as fuck), they break two more things. The thing fucking sucks.
46c5c2 No.13870470
Every video game company right now.
46c5c2 No.13870508
>>13868922
We'll see how it turns out on the Switch. Echoes gives me hope despite the dumpster fires
179cfa No.13870514
>>13870356
>kids these days think DaS series is difficult
>they'll never know the feat that is defeating NineBall
69e083 No.13870544
>STALKER
>MGS
>Most IPs owned by Ubisoft
>Most IPs owned by EA other than sports
>Every good game owned by an AAA company
0c1eb6 No.13870588
>>13868674
More like
>tfw square owns fucking Taito
4313d5 No.13870723
It was dead on announcement
the only thing keep this game alive is the whales, the fantastic art team that actually manged to boot a person who was purposely trying to sabotage the game, the animation team and the sound team. other than that there are so many fucking bugs and glitches in this game players can actually predict if something is going to break or not. sometimes the dev will give a glitch 5 tiimes just for it to pop back a few months later. Balancing is a fucking joke. etc etc etc. i can go on if you want me to.
t. 3000 hours logged
a cyberpunk ish neo tokyo titanfall? a gun rental systems that was super easy to use and manage? massive customization with guns and armor? game based around wall hacks? game was way too ambitious for its time and now its ded in the water. recently the rights have been released from the chink devils that is PWE and its only put in the hands of whats remaining of the previous studio.
476f0a No.13871287
5e069d No.13877611
Sonic is a bad game because the core concept is flawed: a character that moves so fast you can't stop in time when a spike wall rushes in from the right side of the screen and you lose ALL your health rings. If the landscape is moving faster than you can react to it, why go fast at all? Mario games executed this much better because although you do run most of the time it's optional and if you miss a jump and die you won't have to navigate some huge underground part of the map as punishment, all while a time limit hangs over you.
Characters that act like pinballs belong in pinball machines, not a platforming environment. You may say that memorizing the stages is part of the fun but Mario games have a much better sense of the right level size and degree of difficulty.
Even if you disagree with all the above, at least acknowledge having Sonic be Xtreme and talking repels all but the most autistic among us. Nobody gives a fuck about crystal macguffins and it just highlights how tired and niche the gameplay is.
886bc1 No.13877638
>13877611 (no (you) for you dubsman)
>a character that moves so fast you can't stop in time when a spike wall rushes in from the right side of the screen and you lose ALL your health rings.
>its this kind of fucking retard again
die
07ebc3 No.13877709
>>13870723
>the fantastic art team that actually manged to boot a person who was purposely trying to sabotage the game
>the same art team that took a deluxe skin meant for Zephyr, plastered a fucking feather mohawk onto the head and gave it to Ember instead
>the same art team that just recolored Lephantis and called it a day when it was time to come up with a boss for the last event
>hurr check my hours played
I see you've learned not to post this shitty bait in the actual waframe threads anymore. Good.
8caf3c No.13877771
>series that can be good but the company is complete shit
What is "any modern AAA game", Alex.
>mfw
>>13869680
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the pinnacle of Sonic the Hedgehog for me. Sonic Mania is a close second, with Sonic 2 trailing shortly behind. The 3D titles don't come close, but I still hold that Sonic Adventure 2 is at least the best of the 3D titles (mostly because of the Chao Garden, but at least the gameplay was better than SA1).
It pisses me off to no end when I see people who still say, "Sonic was never good," because it obviously shows that these fuckers don't do their research and can't be bothered to pick up what many people would consider a great game for no reason other than to hold a shitty opinion.
Sonic really was a great rival to the Super Mario franchise with all of the comics and cartoons. Even if most of his recent showing are sub-par, seeing all of it reminds me of the good old days and makes me want to go back and play more Sonic 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles because it was genuinely just fucking fun.
Plus, the writing for the Sonic Boom cartoon is actually really funny. Would rather watch the cartoon than play the game for sure.
7137a7 No.13877790
>>13868639
Valve isn't that bad. Sure their games could have been a lot better if developed by other teams, but their games would be a lot worse too if handed to other AAA devs like THQ, EA, Ubisoft.
4ea394 No.13877858
>>13868619
> Implying Sonic is good and SEGA is shit, not the other way around.
SEGA isn't complete shit. They still have Yakuza, Project Diva, Puyo Puyo, and Altus. Sonic Team hasn't made a completely solid Sonic game since Sonic and Knuckles. Sure, there are Sonic games that have done some things right since then, but even Forces did some things right.
> Muh mania
Was done by fan hackers that SEGA hired to do ports before and now make an actual game better than what the main team has been doing.
>>13868639
Valve used to be a SUPERB company that didn't just make great games but revolutionized gaming and game creation by modders. Ever since Gabe discovered Zynga's profit margins as they used to be, Valve has been slowly going down the shitter, with Steam now being their main product. Valve is now too big for their pants but as another anon said they still aren't as bad as EA, Ubi or Activision.
>>13868674
>>13868817
>>13869147
This is a much better example.
7a5ab6 No.13878317
>>13877858
>they still aren't as bad as EA, Ubi or Activision.
Or Bethesda
c2b21e No.13878895
>>13877858
>Sonic Team hasn't made a completely solid Sonic game since Sonic and Knuckles
Nice meme
61b6bb No.13879187
>>13869728
>Why would fans of a franchise want more games? It doesn't make any sense!
d05324 No.13880745
Metroid. Nintendo will ensure that IP dies a long painful death.
1a33c1 No.13880830
>>13877858
>>13878895
I don't know usually i'm some what defensive of adventure but I think That anon is being fair.
Even though I enjoy most of them every 3D Sonic game has a critical flaw,
Adventure 1 forces you to play every play type if you want the true ending, Big the cat is not that appealing to allot of people.
Adventure 2 forces you to play hunting and shooting stages I like them but it's the Sonic and Shadow levels are clearly the best part of the game.
Heroes forces you to play the whole game 4 times on over glorified difficulty settings.
Shadow the game force you to play westopolis 10 times to get all 10 endings to get the true ending.
06 is a broken unfinished mess.
Unleashed forces you to play as the Werehog and collect sun and moon medals .
Genrations forces you to do those side missions to get keys to unlock the bosses (though this isn't nearly as bad as the other games)
Even though I far prefer the Adventure era gameplay. I would say that Colors, Lost world, and Forces. actually have the least flaws when it comes to how just getting to the end of the game is set up. though Lost world and Forces have serious level design.
1a33c1 No.13880841
>>13880830
*Level design issues
d05324 No.13880874
>>13880830
What I find strange about what you said is that you are right in terms that the games during the Wii era and onwards had less flaws but I feel like the Adventure games had a lot more heart and passion in them than Lost world or Forces ever did.
1a33c1 No.13880935
>>13880874
Same, I was the perfect age to experience 3D Sonic, I'm actually still kind of bumbed about 06 since I first played it before I had proper taste.
I loved 06 when it came out, now I see it's seriously unfinished and it sucks, because It wasn't Sonic teams fault it's unfinished. Sega split the team into 2 had one make Secret rings and gave the 06 team a deadline that made them Rush the game. The adventure era while an acquired taste I'll admit, was still really ambitious with each game and how far they took the world. after 06 all of that got thrown in the Garbage,
I still think Shadow character ark leading him to working for GUN is great. It a real shame where 06 is the only game that explores the fact that Shadow works for the government and has connections.
696888 No.13881574
>>13877858
>SEGA isn't complete shit.
They aren't complete shit even though they didn't do anything against Denuvo recently tampering their recent Sonic games?
ade74a No.13882231
>>13868619
Sega is basically a company whose cashcow sucks dong but anything else is a masterpiece.
d54e46 No.13882305
>>13869680
>that first gif
Damn, that's dark
4ce7b8 No.13882314
Mother fucking Elder Scrolls.
63cf55 No.13882387
>>13868619
>release a good Sonic game that's actually GOTY tier.
>proves that hiring new blood from hackers and enthusiastic fans brings profit and help gives jobs for enthusiasts overall.
>sneak in DRM and leaves the blame of dishonesty onto devs
>>13877858
Even at Sonic's worse, Sonic Team at least provides good music and art direction. Not to mention that at its core, jumping and homing on enemies in a speedy gameplay is fun. It's just the level design and controls that hinder it. That or weird gimmicks. However, Colors and Generations were solid. Colors mostly because the gimmick with Wisps was more organic in coexisting with the speedy gameplay.
372bab No.13882419
I fucking hate Game Freak.
c5a451 No.13882449
>>13870723
>blacklight retribution
my fucking nigger. best competitive multiplayer FPS game of all time, way ahead of its time, fucking shame what the god damn chinks did to it because early on it was so reasonable to earn parts permanently by just playing; bit of a grind but not too excessive
now the console-cucked UI is garbage and the fucking server browser doesn't even work. GIVE ME BACK MY GAME YOU FUCKING SLANTS
956270 No.13882459
>>13882419
>we could have had a fully 3D Pokemon console RPG 20 years ago
>we're only getting one now because the Switch is a thing, and we all know it's going to be years behind other big 3D games on the console
Imagine how fucking crazy people would go for the Pokemon equivalent of Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey.
602b2d No.13882471
>>13870723
>>13882449
Why do I only see people talk about Blacklight on this board after the game is dead in its grave? I would have rather had the games playercount just slowly die out the way it was before rather than the abomination it has been turned into with the parity patch.
c5a451 No.13882559
>>13882471
man I dunno I started in 2012 and had a blast for 2 years until it fell off because PWE gave up on it, went back pretty recently and tried to play some but the game is pretty much broken, it's weird that they even keep any servers or anything up for it considering you basically can't play
pic related was my gunfu, I called it the plague, LMG-Recon with a pretty balanced build. people laughed until I fucked them up with it
70a635 No.13882590
>>13869704
>Osrs isn't entirely shit just yet
What fucking game are you playing?
3aa59d No.13882618
>>13882387
It's safe to say that SEGA was was jealous of Head Cannon for doing a far better job than they had since Colors and Generations so they sneaked a way to piss on them by adding DENUVO as a way to "make the game safe from pirating" so they can feel the rage of the fanboys they had over the years.
Dick move if you ask me.
e88a10 No.13882630
>>13882459
just imagine:
an open-world pokemon game filled with stuff to do
and you only get to play as pokemon
1a33c1 No.13882677
>>13882618
>It's safe to say that SEGA sabotaged there own game because the people they hired did there job
I don't know I think SEGA just being ignorant of peoples dislike of DENUVO or their still in some kind of contract with it is far more believable.
b9f55d No.13884287
>>13882559
My niglings…
god damn, I loved that game.
3928c6 No.13884298
>>13882590
tbh I haven't played the new content yet, I've just been skilling like it's 2007. I know the game is kinda shit and some of the devs are fucked, but the community fighting them on every front is an amusing watch. That and I'll always have /v/Scape…[spoiler]hopefully…[spoiler]
afe1c4 No.13884304
>>13884298
I always used to draw Runescape inspired knights like that one in the pic related. Also reminds me how overdesig is such a cancer in RS3.
6854ec No.13884338
No TES yet? The sheer potential for the series is sky high, but Bethesda can't even get off the ground.
f0c8c7 No.13885016
>>13877611
Sonic is also shit because of the "physics"… when you're not moving fast, you're slow as fuck with lots of inertia, and when you jump moving up an incline you jump backwards. That's shit gameplay.