fa8036 No.13776476
Few weapons in vidya do a better job of combining the mayhem of explosive weapons with the satisfaction of landing direct hits with a projectile weapon.
Let's have a grenade launcher appreciation thread.
fa8036 No.13776485
A truly fearsome specimen from F:NV.
3992c0 No.13776486
the best grenade launcher in a game ever is still the one from quake
fa8036 No.13776491
Can't even count how many games this classic has appeared in.
b0e07e No.13776498
Does the Super Shotgun from DOOM count?
fa8036 No.13776514
>>13776498
Why would it?
Also here's a recent take on the classic "revolver" design.
1d758b No.13776515
>tfw game developers listen to too many casul babby and make the in-game grenade launcher items basically shit.
fa8036 No.13776529
>>13776515
>can't make splash damage too good because everyone will spam it
>can't make direct hit damage too good because casuals will complain about the skill cap
Seems to be the problem in a nutshell, anon. For example, this used to be a good weapon.
6e81a2 No.13776548
>>13776529
Come on, man. The damn thing was used like a one-shot-kill shotgun due to high damage and close distance. The speed of the projectile meant that you could aim it almost with no leading so anyone going near you would get insta-fragged.
The change was pretty good, giving the weapon a clear purpose to break buildings, especially usefull if you brought a shield instead of stickies.
fa8036 No.13776579
>>13776548
Then they should have left it with the 25% extra self-damage, so shitters would continue to self-gib if they tried shotgunning with it. Instead, it got the usual Valve treatment–a couple of completely schizophrenic changes followed by a panic nerf when people continued to whine about it (if they even were).
It was clearly meant to be the demo's version of the Direct Hit, but without any meaningful damage bonus it's pointless. Not to mention it's the one grenade launcher that's least likely to be used against buildings because it has 0 indirect fire options and sentries kill anything in their line of sight.
Now I'm just waiting for valve to nerf the Iron Bomber because non-demoknights clearly aren't meant to have any fun at all.
e4c6c4 No.13776596
>>13776476
Best grenade launcher coming through.
9581a8 No.13776601
>>13776514
rotary grenade launchers have been around for a while now, my dude
fa8036 No.13776619
>>13776596
It's breddy gud, I have to admit. One of the few games where you can direct hit someone with a grenade after it bounces off a surface.
>>13776601
you should read my post again, friend.
6e81a2 No.13776634
>>13776579
>Then they should have left it with the 25% extra self-damage, so shitters would continue to self-gib if they tried shotgunning with it.
Except at full health, it wasn't enough for that, considering the Demo's HP.
What happened was Scouts or Spys going near Demos because close range is when they're more efficient and getting blown with a single projectile because of this gun, punishing them for playing their role properly.
736976 No.13776643
>>13776596
>nuTF2fags and overwatchfags on my board
un-cress
fa8036 No.13776650
>>13776634
I'll admit that valve did the right thing when they tuned grenade damage to never OHKO 125HP classes. But that's all they should have done.
4fabb3 No.13776678
>>13776579
>Now I'm just waiting for valve to nerf the Iron Bomber because non-demoknights clearly aren't meant to have any fun at all.
Look at the Tide Turner's patch history and tell me demoknight is supposed to be fun. Iron Bomber is the best grenade launcher for demoknight anyway because you can use it to grenade jump but there's no reason to ever do that because demoknight is now more non-functional than pyro.
t. demoknight
2628fd No.13776700
>>13776596
Overwatch is fucking shit, but god damn, this weapon was fun as fuck. One of the only good things about that shit game.
8e945a No.13776926
ea651b No.13776933
>>13776926
>redditor telling people to fuck off
Both games are garbage. TF2 used to be half decent.
4fabb3 No.13777089
>Grenade launchers are so much fun that even an imitation one that just shoots ink and doesn't even explode is fun.
I love the .96
9c13b3 No.13777108
>>13776529
>ends with grenades never going in where you're aiming but having the most retarded RNG scatter possible
guess they balanced it…
4d52de No.13777116
>>13776933 (checked)
>Both games are garbage. TF2 used to be half decent.
Dubs don't lie.
04087e No.13777119
>>13776953
What happened? Was it nerfed?
be2c72 No.13777122
>mfw lighting up that "sneaky" cloaker like a christmas tree and watching them hit surge and run off while they scream
d68407 No.13777162
The Blooper is probably the SPAS-12 of grenade launchers in that it's a very distinctive real-life weapon.
It's the closest thing to a Wild West Grenade launcher as you can get: gritty-looking, wood furniture, break-action.
>>13776485
I prefer the APW because it's lighter so it takes up less inventory space.
fe5a63 No.13777186
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>>13777110
I could've sworn the grenade launcher from the first Delta Force game used the same soundeffect as Terminator 2 did for its smoke grenade launcher.
Bad Company 2: Vietnams grenad elauncher comes the closest. Still looking for that one game that has the perfect FWOOMP sound effect.
fe5a63 No.13777211
>>13777119
Was it ever…
I couldn't keep it, I had to take it to the market and put it out of its misery. Zarr is interesting, but it's just not the same.
f4617e No.13777237
>>13776953
Before that one even existed I found pic related to be pretty fun
04087e No.13777256
>>13777211
Shit, that sucks.
how's about the Angstrum? Used to be my favorite, before I got the thing.
fe5a63 No.13777260
>>13777256
>need to charge it
>weak as shit
Now Kulstar with Multishot on the other hand…
04087e No.13777273
>>13777260
Damn shame. That thing was pretty much absolute power, except that it was a 20% chance of killing you most the time. 'Least, with what I ran with it back in the day.
374680 No.13777279
>>13776485
The mercy is better. Uses less ammo, more reliable and cripples deathclaws with one standard grenade on very hard with a maxed out demolitions expert skill.
>>13777162
APW is just great.
07b5b8 No.13777329
I really liked the GL40 in The World is Not Enough.
That delicious thump sound gets me every time.
Shame you only ever used it like twice in the single player mode.
You could buttfuck everyone else in multiplayer with it, but the MP in that game sucked because iirc there was some retarded restriction where good guys absolutely could not fight each other or some shit.
c5e8b6 No.13777347
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>>13777120
is that a 40mm shotgun? i don't even know what the hell it is and i want it
>>13777116
hardline sucked in a lot of ways, but hauling ass in a stolen car while firing thumper rounds at the cops chasing you while blasting WOOP WOOP was pretty fun
fe5a63 No.13777357
>>13777347
It's China Lake, dumbo.
e4c6c4 No.13777597
>>13776643
Been with TF2 since Orange Box launch day, kiddo. Try again. Or better yet, list something that's more fun than that one, regardless of game.
Oh wait, you can't, because you're a (1) and done faggot. lol.
e068a2 No.13778077
>>13777260
>Kulstar
I remember when I got it thinking it was a shotgun.
Loaded it with maxed base damage + multishot.
First mission, I get close to someone and pull the trigger.
Blew me across the room (I was leveling a Vauban and forgot to mod him because all I cared about was the Kulstar).
I ended up putting it on Inaros. It pairs well with him. Longe range? Lato (for shits and gigles, it doesn't deal a lot of damage over lvl 45, takes 6 shots to kill someone, or 4 headshots), medium range kullstar and short range either the Orthos Prime or his abilities.
Heck, if the kulstar doesn't kill fast enough, I just whirlind people away and start over.
But usually, it's one of the best secondaries I've tried.
The Talons are good too, pretty fun to use.
e068a2 No.13778097
>>13776596
I'm not sure why, but I think that was the only direct TF2 - > Overwatch ripoff that not only improved on the original but did so greatly.
There's something about it that makes it so great but fair to play against.
Spamming can actually deny areas of your enemies, you can bounce it a lot, direct hits are satisfying and that reload animation is fantastic.
The fun thing about Junkrat is that 90% of the retards playing Overwatch don't know how to classify him. So he doesn't fit the "2 tanks, 2 healers, 2 DPS" meta going on right now.
I just pick them and have people bitch about it.
If attacking, I tell'em Junk's great at attacking stuff.
If defending, I tell'em he's good at defense and laying traps.
I like Pyro more than Mei.
I like the Spy better than Sombra.
And I even like that germanic handsome bastard healing our asses more than Mercy.
But Junkrat has a spot in my heart that the Demoman could never fill.
91014d No.13778172
RPG-7 is great.
I love soviet weapon ａ ｅ ｓ ｔ ｈ ｅ ｔ ｉ ｃ
I always try to find one in S.T.A.L.K.E.R and then go Pseudogiant hunting.
fa8036 No.13778197
>>13778158
>hitman animations
5b4671 No.13778238
>>13776486
Came here to post this. Though I did play through using DarkPlaces, which I think fucks with the physics which may make the grenades bounce differently than vanilla. I found it fantastic though, far too many games simply have the grenade launcher as the fallback weapon when you run out of rockets whereas with Quake there were tons of situations where it was preferable to rocket launcher.
e4c6c4 No.13778278
>>13778097
This is spot-fucking-on.
I think the thing that really stood out to me as Junkrat, was the clear and deliberate attention Blizzard paid to TF2 and Demoman's mechanics. The transition was so incredibly natural, and everything just felt right. I know it's cool to hate on Overwatch, but it made me feel right at home after 3k hours spent playing Demo in pre-class update TF2.
It's pretty fucking sad how Overwatch feels more like TF2, than TF2 does now, but I appreciate how compotent the game feels in general.
a00a9a No.13778294
Is there any game besides Rising Storm 2 that allows you to load buckshot rounds into the grenade launcher?
fa8036 No.13778298
>>13778280
What is that beautiful machine?
>>13778278
I dunno man, since Jungle Inferno I've been having a blast playing Demo, feels a lot more consistent than playing Junk.
e4c6c4 No.13778349
>>13778298
Was Jungle Inferno good? I haven't touched TF2 in a couple of years, stopped playing around the Cow Mangler period. All I've seen are threads bitching about it, but /v/ cries about everything.
468f7d No.13778359
>>13778349
It's shit. More nerfs, more hats, more lootboxes. It's no different to LaW.
4d52de No.13778370
>>13778298
>What is that beautiful machine?
The largest sporting rifle ever made, the .950 JDJ.
ad9051 No.13778380
>>13778294
men of valor is the only one I can think of off the top of my head
e068a2 No.13778381
>>13778370
>sporting rifle
>SPORTING
In the same way "Monster trucks" are a sport, I guess.
4d52de No.13778408
>>13778381
Generally when it comes to firearms, if it isn't designed expressly for military, law enforcement, or self defense purposes, it falls under the sporting classification, even if it's hugely impractical for hunting or competition. I'll stop derailing with funz now.
ff0393 No.13778429
>>13778370
How much does one round cost, how big is it, and what sort of exit wound would it leave? Jesus. Also the cost of the gun?
1b754c No.13778455
>>13778172
You do know "aesthetic" is a word, right? It's not just a meme, it's a phrase you can just use and we all know what you're talking about. You don't have to filter everything you say through memes, you can stop.
ad9051 No.13778457
>>13778429
they had some rounds for sale at my gun shop for 60 a piece but that's probably the exception rather than the rule. The rifles are stupidly hard to find, just checking around. They no doubt cost a shitload.
fa8036 No.13778459
>>13778349
It's not bad, made some balance changes that were sorely needed and changed some other shit that probably could have stayed as-is.
More importantly, it brought people back to TF2 so you can actually find a full game. My advice is to give it a try, personally I discovered a demo weapon that feels really good to use (iron bomber) that I'd never tried before. Lotta new shit, and not all of it is, well, shit.
468f7d No.13778472
>>13778459
And those "balance changes" are exactly the same shit we've been receiving since 2013, unbalanced changes. This update is objectively shit.
4d52de No.13778496
>>13778429
See >>13778408
As far as exit wounds go, if an average sized man was to be hit in the chest with a round this large and heavy, moving as fast as it does, you would have a situation where a large section of the torso would be completely obliterated from the force and impact. To put it into perspective, a .50BMG round (12,000-15,000 ft-lbs. of force) can quite literally make a person's head explode like a pumpkin. There are plenty of ISIS propaganda videos floating around that are evidence of such. This round (~38,000 ft-lbs.) is far larger and heavier than that. I have no doubt that it would easily shear off legs and arms if shot at extremities. It's basically small artillery.
The rifles themselves are very pricey as they are rare and cost intensive to manufacture/distribute legally. Think potentially tens of thousands of USD depending on availability at the time. Polite sage for OT.
91014d No.13778507
>>13778455
Ａ Ｅ Ｓ Ｔ Ｈ Ｅ Ｔ Ｉ Ｃ Ｍ Ｅ Ｍ Ｅ
e1f044 No.13778524
>>13778472
>This update is objectively shit.
what are your objective metrics?
28c979 No.13778558
>>13776953
I didn't like it. Now the Penta, that was fucking great. Then they nerfed it even harder than they ever did with Tonkor.
a2adf3 No.13778655
4d52de No.13779572
>>13778655 (checked)
I never played BF4 but I remember loving the 40mm dart (flechette) loads in BF3, that shit was highly effective. People would get very upset at you.
ac0dd1 No.13779690
>>13776596
>explosive isnt a cricket ball
ONE JOB BLIZZ!
ea651b No.13779731
>>13777597
>this clinically broken game is still fun and nothing else comes close to it
fucking lol.
fcf966 No.13781618
Worst grenade launcher here
ae62e6 No.13781715
Gonna give this one points for ingenuity at least.
72c224 No.13783321
>>13781618
You better not be generally talking shit about the m79 you son of a bitch.
68c059 No.13783359
>>13778381
As long as African big game exists, it has its niche.
3b221a No.13783515
>>13778381
Just to let you know some people like to hunt tanks with the solid milled brass rounds for that thing.
0a4447 No.13783516
>>13776491
My dad loved that thing when he was in Vietnam. Always loved seeing it in movies when it made that satisfying 'pop' noise.
72c224 No.13785157
>>13783516
>'pop' noise
It's really more of a 'thwunk' or a 'bloop' sound, anon. Satisfying as hell though.
e6109a No.13785490
Grenade launchers should deal good damage, not like a weak pistol. In most games they are weak as fuck. Why include them if they're weak? Only game I've seen that does them right is Stalker. You find a grenade launcher in an irradiated basement with a few ammo, and BOOM! It fucking obliterated a camp of enemies with one shot.
72c224 No.13785527
>>13785490
The reason that many vidya grenade launchers end up being shit is because weak pussy bitches cry about them endlessly until they get nerfed, or faggot devs are afraid of weak pussy bitches crying endlessly so they preemptively make them shit to avoid conflict, like little menstrual cramped women.
9da8de No.13786799
>>13777089
well at least it still has "splash" damage
af229e No.13786864
Best grenade launcher and shotgun in any game. You literally can't dispute this.
e2271f No.13787148
>>13786864
I like projectile shotguns, but shit SFX holds the shotgun back from being god-tier. Even Xonotic's Crylink sounds better. As far as grenade launchers go, it's way the fuck down the list
3992c0 No.13787153
>>13786864
nah, nothing any ut game has done is good