/v/ - Video Games

>durr 3d platforming equals boost button and on rails movement

Fucking sonic team is retarded and they should stick to 2d.

Robotnik is the only likeable Sonic character.

>hold forward

>ok now push A a bunch of times

>hold boost

>win

what a great "game"

I am not being a memer about it but I cant really enjoy the platforming in sonic games, including the ones /v/ says are good.

when you jump on a spring you go strait up and have no control for a small period of time, going through a loop is the same ect ect so your gameplay gets interrupted by this shit constantly

the levels look like they were pieced together by a demented computer program too

>>13756642

>when you jump on a spring you go strait up and have no control for a small period of time

Doesn't sound like Adventure 1 or 2. More like colors and generations.

>>13756654

Warioland > Mario Odyssey. Just saying.

>>13756662

Preaching to the choir. Hell, I would say Warioland 4 is better than Odyssey.

Even the music was better.

>>13756628

I'd love another Wario Land game. Even a Wario World. Even Wario as a playable character in a Mario 3D World sequel.

>>13756615

All of the bunnies are likeable.

>>13756662

>Wariofag cleverly hides in a sonic thread to burp what he knows is a retarded statement

o I am laffin

>>13756607

Sonic Team really is fucking retarded. I know nips aren't immune to being unintelligent, but how the fuck did these people pass in the area they needed, let alone get hired when they're not even seniority?

>>13756783

There's fucking retarded ass infinite lives and even boss checkpoints for already pathetic and short stages and bosses, anon. Don't give a cent if that sounds like a shit halfassed game.

UGH. FUCK OFF OP, THE GAME WAS OBJECTIVELY GOOD!!!!

LOOK AT HOW OPEN, SPRAWLING AND NON-LINEAR IT IS!!

>>13756848

I doubt the current Sonic Team remotely resembles the Sonic Team that worked on Sonic Adventure 15 years ago. Even if they were, with all the constant changes Adventure went through, I'm sure the whole thing was but a happy accident from a tech demo.

>>13756855

I never really planned to buy it, even when I plan to play it, but from that webm alone, it looks really fucking nice, minus the speedrun shit, if you actually played normally seems enjoyable enough. I've seen some other gameplay videos now, and it looks like the OC have some QTE segments and shit, but it's not like the OC wasn't a terrible idea from the beginning anyway.

>>13756642

>going through the loop

Holding down to roll while going through the loop makes you go faster but it gives you protection when you come out of a slope. I think the people complaining about going too fast that enemies hit you are probably referring to when they come to slope after going through loop Sonic momentarily goes through the air through the momentum but without protection from some flying enemies or when they accidentally land on an enemy. If you're inexperienced and scared of the speed, the fun is calculating when to roll up during the loop.

>spring bounces you and you can't curl up

Yeah, that's one of the things that still irks me despite loving Classic Sonic. Luckily some fangames like Megamix, Utopia and a hack for CD (CD++) allows you to curl up. I hope Christian Whitehead allows you to curl midair in the next 2D game unless Sega screws them over because they ain't Japanese just like they screwed over Sega of America during the 90's.

>>13756932

If that's legitimately what NME fully looks like, I'm fucking triggered.

>>13756783

Adventure 3 is kind of a weird thing at this point. More than half of the games in the franchise have been compared to "Adventure 3" at this point and I think the meaning has been kind of lost. If you play Adventure 1 and 2 there's a distinct gameplay style to them that hasn't really been done again; Heroes, Shadow, and 06 are sometimes said to be Adventure formula games, but they weren't really that similar. There's something about the physics and weight of Adventure that was really good. Forces might not be Adventure 3, but it's a really cool combo of Lost World and Generations/Colors. I've warmed up to boosting; I think it's pretty fun, especially as Shadow where you can find ramps and use it with a jump to launch into the sky and fly really damn fucking far and skip entire sections of the stage.

>>13756960

It makes no sense why they don't fucking try the slightest experiment with it. That gameplay was so enjoyable and it really was the best attempt to bring Sonic into 3D.

>>13756960

>There's something about the physics and weight of Adventure that was really good

This is pretty much what they could never replicate. I like Heroes, Shadow, '06 and even Lost World and Generations, but just doing a homing attack it simply doesn't feel the same, all the animations are kinda sluggish and slow compared to Sonic's movement in Adventure 1 and 2.

>a really cool combo of Lost World and Generations/Colors

If that's the case, then it isn't exactly what I'm looking for.

>>13756969

Wasn't that because Sega refuses to use the SA engine for some reason? I think they lost it or something like that, or it was pretty hard to use.

>>13756783

Sonic controls like a train, only with jumping and switching between three lanes. He only practically has two speeds: running and boost, both of which instantly transition to maximum velocity without ever feeling like there's any real momentum involved. Where Adventure/Heroes/StH were fast-paced 3D platformers, SatSR/SatBN/Colors/Unleashed/Generations/Forces control like bad racing games on rails.

>>13756975

Exactly. Retards don't understand we've talking entirely about physics and handling when we say we want an Adventure "3" and just obnoxiously shit over the parts of SA and SA we already know are shit.

>>13756969

Woah, you agree with me? Finding people who don't just want to stir shit about Sonic on /v/ or even just anywhere online is fucking rare, and most people just shit on Adventure because it's popular enough and flawed enough to give it reason to be hated. I get disliking it; that's fine. Hell I get hating it and never wanting to touch it again. I don't care if you hate a game in a franchise or love it; I just hope you have lots of fun with the games you actually DO like.

I'm not too picky with my Sonic games unlike most other people. While Adventure is one of my favorites, I also have no problems with boost and I really adore the Classic style where they focus on momentum and physics. I really liked the gritty action b-movie/batshit shonen writing style of Adventure 2 because it had a good bunch of moments that were so laughably gritty that they just put a huge smile on my face. I believe one of the lines was somewhat like:

>ME AND KNUCKLES WILL HOLD OFF THE COPS. TAILS, YOU GO FIND AMY!

That shit was so fucking good and Forces had a few moments like that with Sonic being held as a prisoner of war and being tortured for 2 or 3 months. It's this fucking kids franchise but then out of nowhere shit like that happens and it feels so out of place, but feels so in place, and I just end up losing my shit. Seriously SA2 was a fucking game about a beloved childrens character being a fugitive on the run and being framed for terrorism; if you look into the plot of that game in the big picture it's just one huge god damn mess that ends in a fight in outerspace against a giant lizard using a space station as a dildo.

>>13756989

Yet Unleashed, Colors and Generations managed to be much better games than shit like Heroes.

>>13757002

If that's the kind of game I wanted I'd play burnout instead.

>>13756996

It just feels like when the story is actually being taken seriously, even if it's turns out to be cringy or edgy shit, the developers are being serious about making something great out of it because they're actually trying to impress their preexisting older longer fans, not just spoiled retards with middle class parents.

>>13756989

But from that Webm Shadow seemingly controlled where he went, it is just a lie?

>>13756991

To be honest, I want the whole package, like Knuckles stages, maybe because of nostalgia, but if they do decide to do Adventures 3, they should go all out with what there was previously there and improve it, give Knuckles something like Unleashed werehog controls while also looking for treasure. But SEGA can't even replicate Chao Garden because no one knows how the damn thing works, so I really doubt it.

>>13757002

In those you can still control sonics direction and speed momentum, whereas anon is telling me here Sonic runs all the time with little to no stop-

>>13757009

Heroes was a pathetic step back from Adventure in every way and had no fucking content. Colors toned down the emphasis on boost while evolving upon its potential. In Colors you actually have to play good to keep boosting because the gauge actually thankfully drains fast in that particular game.

>>13757020

>chao garden

Don't even start with this shit. I have no hopes for this returning.

>>13757020

>>13757031

If the issue is seriously "Hurr we can't make an Adventure game or at least bring back Chao Garden because we somehow can't recreate a fucking N64 and PlayStation era engine" then Sonic Team might literally be too retarded to live without being a liability to fucking humanity.

>>13757031

>>13757041

Can't find an article, but pretty sure SEGA already said they are too incompetent to make a new Chao Garden. I mean, sure, maybe you can't recreate exactly what it was, but have they ever thought they could do something better BASED on what already exists?

>>13756958

The Kirby anime runs out of decent episodes early on, it's why nobody bothered finishing the fansub and probably why 4kike dropped it.

>>13757059

Seriously? Literally all they have to do is have an acceptable plot and a bad guy the Kirby eats something to beat.

>not liking Sonic

Y'all cowards don't even go fast.

Sonic Adventure > Sonic Adventure 2 > dogshit > the rest

I'll say this till I die. They should just make adventure (3).

>inb4 06 is sa3

Fuck off nigger

>>13757113

FAST??

>>13757059

But 4kids translated the series finale. Also on the subject on the Kirby anime, anyone else loved that transformation jingle, it's what got me into the show as a kid.

Still waiting on Lost World 2

>>13756654

I'm 100% convinced that Warioware, Inc. Mega Microgame$ was a corporate joke about the whole Bob's Game fiasco that accidentally produced a masterpiece.

>>13756783

>>13756960

That's the thing. Adventure is not a good video game, but Adventure 2 Battle was an iconic moment for a whole generation of autists. They didn't want a new Adventure, they wanted a game that would capture the same feeling while actually being good.

>>13756596

umm excuse me honey but there was that webm that explained why sonic was better than mario so take your butthurt little nintendtard ass off my board and go somewhere a little more your speed. id suggest gaia baby doll

>>13757436

>They didn't want a new Adventure, they wanted a game that would capture the same feeling while actually being good.

They want 90's anime Sonic.

>>13757440

>They'd find a way to ruin it and somehow remove it from canon too or something.

There was a kind of chao garden in Sonic Chronicles, but we all know how all that ended.

>Stop wanting to make it happen when it's already happened multiple times.

All those games tried really hard but ultimately failed for one reason or the other. The closest to A3 is '06, and honestly it wasn't that bad.

>>13757464

Who doesn't?

>>13757548

>honestly it wasn't that bad

It was pretty bad.

Did you play the game when it first came out? I see a pattern that people who think highly of it grew up playing it and didn't notice the fundamental flaws when they were younger.

>>13756783

>>inb4 adventures was never good

I liked the first one, I tried to play the PC port recently and I felt like it was rushed and unfinished. Then my save file got corrupted so I uninstalled. Adventures 2 probably wasn't good, but the first one was fun enough.

>>13758152

*PC port of Adventures 2 was rushed and unfinished.

>>13758152

>playing the piece of shit pc port based on the piece of shit gamecube port

play the dreamcast version or atleast emulate it you nigger

>>13756596

Well, I like it.

>>13758170

What's exactly the difference? Is Dreamcast emulation even good?

>>13757189

Calling 06 "SA3" was just kind of a meme. People would back it up with basic similarities, comparing parts of 06 to the SA games; there were similarities, but not enough to make it an actual SA3. Some say Heroes was SA3, but honestly I feel like Heroes was its own deal. Hell I've always considered Shadow to be more like Heroes 2 because it just plays so damn similarly, and 06 didn't play too far off from Heroes either. I consider those three games to be more of their own thing of this kind of "mediocre age" of Sonic where the games weren't really as memorable. I suppose another one would be the Wii games aside from Colors, but even then I still hear Black Knight be brought up here and there.

>>13757440

I don't really see the similarities in any of those titles. 06 somewhat, but there's a lot more to an Adventure game than what 06 brought to the table. There might be substitutes for others but I'd just like to see it someday. Even then it's just Adventure 3; as much as I adore the Adventure games, Forces was pretty great and I hope they take that formula and improve on it more. Wherever the series is going, it looks like there's hope at the moment. The series just has a really rough stigma attached to it and the fans just rip everything to shreds, which is kind of a contagious opinion from the looks of it.

>>13758170

The mods are comfy as shit. This is kind of the main "big" one but there's a modloader for tinier mods that lets you customize your Chao Gardens and do funky shit. The PC version is missing a few things, yeah, but I still like it quite a bit; I'd like to see them revisit it and add some new things, though. SA2 has a special place in my heart.

>>13756830

go away nintendrone

>>13757002

I don't like the style of Unleashed as much as the style of the previous 3D games, however, it is so much more polished than everything after the Dreamcast that it still ends up as one of my favorites in the franchise. The fact that it has a shitton of content helps too.

>>13757358

Lost World 2 would be fucking kickass. Tie up the story since Zavok said he'd be back or whatever, and do some cool shit. Lost World was incredibly underrated and I'd love to see them redo the gameplay style but just fix up the problems, like the level design feeling experimental as hell in the later levels. I had a good time with Lost World; it wasn't perfect sure, but it certainly gets a lot more hate than it deserves. Otherwise I mean I'd like to see Shadow get another game someday, since his character has kind of moved away from being completely edgy, and he has some of his chill and cunning side back and comes off as being all about business. Really I'm fine with whatever though so long as it's fun to play; 2d game, boost formula, Adventure formula, something new; I don't really care. I'm just kind of excited to see where the franchise is going now that things seem like they could potentially be picking up.

Last Sonic Forces comic showcasing the Phantom Ruby and Infinite's origins. But I must say, it's still rather underwhelming concerning what they actually (didn't) show in the game itself.

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/927955925721161728

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/927956516702863360

>beat the game in 3 hours

>no point in doing bonus missions other than cosmetics

Imagine what I could have done with that 40$

The game seems like you can get some enjoyment out of it. But, it just isn't enough. Critics and users so far have been saying the exact same thing, its not a terrible game, but its far from a good game, its painfully average and forgettable. I expected worse from the reviews honestly, so that's something positive I guess. Something that I wonder is, was this whole game intended for western audiences? The claim when the demo released was that it wasn't "intended for western audiences". I know a demo isn't the full experience, but making a statement like that makes no fucking sense. What was Sega and Sonic Team's end goal? Why did they released this so close to Mania and Odyssey?

>>13759447

They released it close to Mania because Mania was made to promote this game.

>>13759484

Sonic Mania's presentation compared to Sonic Forces' doesn't do much for Sonic Forces' case.

Even though the games are linked story wise and Mania was meant to promote it.

>>13758328

I think he was talking about the first Adventure, not 2. The DX version of Adventure is quite a downgrade from the original, despite the extra content.

>>13759447

I legit can't believe people aren't absolutely ripping into the infinite lives, boss checkpoints and shitty stages and bosses in general.

>>13760150

>infinite lives

To be fair I thought it was interesting how the score is based on how many times you died, which I thought is a good way to do it if you don't want a lives system.

>boss checkpoints

Okay, no. No. I'm defending that.

>>13760150

For the infinite lives thing, lives were so pointless in the recent games that removing them doesn't really have any effect, and the levels are so short that any game overs would barely be more of a setback than restarting at a checkpoint.

>>13760221

Can you make Coldsteel in it?

>>13760363

Close enough.

>>13760354

>Can you make Coldsteel in it?

Coldsteel is already in the game, he's called infinite.

>>13760150

I honestly don't mind the whole infinite lives thing, lives really serve no purpose. Especially considering how short this game is. Although, I feel the game should lock you out from getting an S rank if you die once. people have played like absolute garbage dying like 4-5 times and still pull out S and A ranks. I think you have to be legitimately fucking terrible or try to actually get something lower than that. Although, boss checkpoints are completely retarded, no defending that.

>>13756628

I'd kill for a Waluigi game. Actually make the Wario side branch, Wario's main series becomes Wario Land and similar, but those minigame compilations become Wario and Waluigi's thing.

>>13760305

I don't get it

>>13758654

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I thought Lost World did an excellent job of developing Eggman's overall character. It showed that he had a level of compassion for Sonic towards the end, and that he could switch from comedic relief to threatening villain when provoked. It's a kind of menacing behavior he hasn't really exhibited since he held Amy at gunpoint in SA2.

>>13760860

Too bad the rest of the writing was garbage.

>>13760888

If you want some conspiracy shit then how about this was released the same week Miiverse shut down as a deliberate attempt by the yakuza to turn a million underage kids into degenerate furries

>>13760888

>implying you have to stop to platform when the point of Sonic is you can platform fast with additional help from momentum

>>13760888

What a waste. Yes, Sonic is supposed to be fast, but barely faster than Mario, since he was born from playing Mario as fast as you could.

>13760888

a waste of trips, now fuck off back to cuckchan or leddit, you belong there

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>>13760888

Waste of trips. Fuck off, hipster.

>>13761645

>Says the viper poster

>>13761660

I wanna fuck cute 16 year old boys like Richard Spencer does, teach me TRS master ;-;

>>13761623

Nice toku wolf.

>>13761710

>toku

What is this cancer? I've seen it around.

>>13761623

>>13761747

Honestly, character customization is pretty good even though lacking in certain areas. I want them to flesh this out more and bring it back in a not so lackluster game. Spring Chan and Wolf girl are pretty adorable.

>>13761673

You posted a TRS so I responded with something just as appropriate (:

>>13761749

Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Gavan, any Japanese show like that.

>>13761812

That is not what I expected.

>>13761776

No bust for females is the final fucking sin for Forces.

>>13761776

>Looks at head fur

>No wild fur spines on the side of the head

Shit. Still adorable though. That cat girl shown off at that presentation is also adorable. I've seen someone post a cute bunny girl too. People got real creative with the OC creator, qts, meme worthy OCs, and the like. I think I'm actually growing too fond of this idea, I was skeptical about it at first, but it actually turned out pretty decent.

>>13761878

I hate how it seems like they've improved the boost controls and made it more natural yet the design for Sonic's stages is shit.

Boost could stand on its own if the fucking retards at Sega knew what they were doing.

This game is definitely a case of easy to beat, but hard to complete. The time trials in the challenges are a bitch.

Is Tails a girl? Just asking.

>>13762095

Of course. He even has girly tails.

>>13762095

Imagine how fucking amazing porn would be if he really were.

Being the most adoring fan and basically a little brother, constantly following him around on even the most pointless adventures when it's just the 2 of them against the odds. Tails would be impossible to separate from dickings almost as much as Rouge.

>>13762832

>shadow fighting those goofy ladybug enemies

>>13762885

Don't be fucking drawfagging that loli.

>>13758747

>Infinite's backstory is literally "No one cared who I was 'till I put on the mask."

This shit is beyond disappointing, and I wasn't even terribly excited for it.

>>13763046

But pirated copies aren't lost sales, right?

>>13761758

It's bloody awful

>Robotnik's traditional Jap VA died of heart disease.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikao_Ohtsuka

God damn. How many Egg actors have died now? Four? I hope Mike Pollack is watching his health.

>>13757059

>4yids

What are they up to nowadays? Bankrupt like we all thought? I blame them for Narutards being a thing, if they hadn’t shat the bed so hard with One Piece all of that autism could have been evenly distributed but instead it was allowed to coalesce.

>>13763623

They no longer exist as a company. Check it out, 4kids is defunct.

>>13761645

>more than one person couldn't possibly like sonic the hedgehog

>>13762945

Waterslides aren't autistic.

>>13765142

Shut up autist.

>>13756596

>Sonic was never good, face it.

When will Mariofags stop posting?

>>13762391

With NeoGAF gone, I hope to see more IGN bullying and disgracing.

>>13767357

That name for that particular Sonic character is one of the greatest fucking mistakes I've hilariously ever seen.

>>13767367

>NeoGAF gone

?????????

>>13768080

>durr what what huh what durrr!

that's what you sound like when you make posts like this. look it up nigger

Here's a good review on sonic forces, trust me, this is the least cancerous one i can find.

>>13768159

>>13768111

From what I saw from them in order to gauge reactions is that they have a hateboner for (4)/v/, as to be expected. But the whole site is crawling with faggots still, also unsurprisingly.

>>13768093

3 minutes in. Nigger, I clicked for a review video, not a kind of funny, witty character analysis.

>>13764091

I love how forces and the comics have such a similar premise yet forces still fucked it up so bad.

>>13769024

That kind of talk is what got Big arrested by fucking GUN.

>the Null Space track was only used for ten seconds

It's like there was supposed to be more of Null Space considering how long this track actually is and how SEGA said this would play during an important part of the game. It was probably scraped alongside various other parts like a Chaos 0/Shadow boss fight.

>>13770059

Why do they keep rushing these out when it always ends bad?

>>13760888

git gud

>failing the triple boost does fucking nothing

WEW

>>13770092

That's the thing, it wasn't even rushed out. Lost World was released four years ago. They've had at least four years to get the game done, possibly more. Forces seems more like the result of a low budget and poor time management, rather than rushed development.

The must have spent all there time making the Hedgehog 2 engine and little time actually making Forces.

It's as if when they first showed off the trailer for the game back during the 25th anniversary they only just started development.

>>13756596

>no rings

>S

what a fucking joke

>>13770413

Rings actually give jack shit for score other wise it would be even easier since you can end up with 400 some times. The score you get from playing the level and the score from your Time are the most important.

>>13770413

Rings hardly matter for level score. Time, lives lost, and what you earned in the level itself are the important factors. The game is still really lenient with S ranks, though.

>>13770654

Yeah, Shadow's levels are a lot more strict with the ranks, for some reason.

>>13758308

> I suppose another one would be the Wii games aside from Colors, but even then I still hear Black Knight be brought up here and there.

Secret Rings and Black Knight are part of their own sub-series, which is obvious since they have the same gameplay that is unlike the rest of the series.

>>13760174

>To be fair I thought it was interesting how the score is based on how many times you died

In every other game you just don't get a good score if you die at all. Scores don't mean shit unless you get a top rank anyway, so you have to just not die.

>>13761922

'06 wasn't Sonic Team's fault, it was Sega's for forcing them to release an alpha prototype.

>>13763254

>villain is Bane

>disappointing

HOTHEADS GTFO

>>13770767

I really wanna headpat Shadow.

>>13771113

>villain is Bane

>you can't headpat him

You are the hothead

>>13771184

*cum inside

>>13756628

as much as i love the wario games none of them really top mario world.

>>13763743

So it wasn't silver a timefucked silver? Color me disappointed.

>>13771113

>it was Sega's for forcing them to release an alpha prototype.

No you nigger that was Microsofts fault. They gave Sega the ultimatum of have it out by Christmas or you will never be allowed to release games on the 360. this is not to say sega is not at fault as well, they managed to delete the build they were using when one of their employees left

>>13771749

>that fucking outfit

They know their audience of edgy furfags if nothing else.

>>13763623

>>13763736

>out of business

Wrong, they're 4konami media now. Konami bought the production office and hired back the staff to produce yu gi oh for now to perpetuity.

>>13771749

Can you actually make Coldsteel exactly as he is in the picture?

>>13772663

when the game gets cracked i'm sure we will see allot more, but you also need to unlock the avatar parts. So maybe people who want to skip to that should just use a 100% save, since unlocking everything actually takes a pretty long time.

>>13772663

can you teleport into peoples shadows and cut their shadows with your shadow sword but their real body gets cut?

>>13771113

Baneposting can't even save Infinite from being an absolute shit butthurt little bitch of a villain after possible fucking route they could have gone.

Imagine if it was hilariously fucking Mighty thematically getting revenge on Sonic for literally stealing his life and the immortal fame he was supposed to have. Or it could have simply been the male avatar gone NUCLEAR in what's somehow a bad future without Eggman ruling.

Fucking can Iizuka.

I noticed a lot of the gameplay from the leaks didn't include the radio-chatter by NPCs that is shown in others (Shadow's campaign has a failed attempt at illusionary Rouge and Omega taunting him).

Were things like the Eggman final boss actually have them, or is he silent through the final battle?

>>13768093

>game theory ripoff

PUFF PUFF PASSSS

>>13772389

Mario is also made for children. Your move.

>>13784846

>>hold boost to win

that is about as true as "hold right to win" is true of all 2D Sonic games.

>>13784820

I think he was referring to this webm >>13761597

>>13759745

the PC version of SA1 also have fixes.

>>13761660

>facebook memes

>>>/cuckchan/

>>13784846

Naka leaving and making Prope before 06 even came out didn't make it obvious to you that there's absolutely none of the original Sonic Team members left? The oldest remaining is Kazuyuki Hoshino, the series' character and world/level artist.from CD.