38fd31 No.13722211
I'm sick of this "games must be hard to be fun" meme. Every game that dumps a ton of deaths on you now is just so proud of itself for being le difficult dark souls clone. So tell me /v/, what are some really fun games that aren't very hard. Shit like Kirby, where you can just sit down and play it and just have a fun casual time?
a77109 No.13722236
>>13722211
>Every game that dumps a ton of deaths on you now
What games are you playing because that certainly isn't the case for modern ones.
b52c6a No.13722258
4d8756 No.13722268
>where you can just sit down and play it and just have a fun casual time?
Sure, OP, have something comfy. :^)
38fd31 No.13722275
>>13722258
>>13722270
real fucking original.
>>13722268
stop this.
a77109 No.13722280
>>13722275
>real fucking original.
how about you make a thread that isn't completely baseless in its premise?
38fd31 No.13722286
>>13722280
What's baseless about it? I want some games that are easy but still fun.
440437 No.13722287
>>13722275
>I'm shit at games pls don't tell me to get better
40814a No.13722292
>what are some really fun games that aren't very hard
Super DeepThroat.
a77109 No.13722295
>>13722286
All modern games are easy as fuck.
38fd31 No.13722297
>>13722295
They also aren't fun.
94b80f No.13722298
Games today arent that hard. Dark Souls isnt hard, its just a normal challenge rather than trivial "everyone gets to win" bullshit.
a77109 No.13722299
>>13722297
No game which is piss easy is fun.
38fd31 No.13722314
>>13722299
This is what I'm talking about, you fucking nonce. Games can be fun and easy, kirby is one. I want more.
7b0001 No.13722316
d34196 No.13722317
Harvest moon, spyro games, city building games… Basically any comfy game.
a77109 No.13722319
>>13722314
>Games can be fun and easy
They can't be
Kirby is baby shit that isn't fun. Its a mindless time waster.
38fd31 No.13722324
>>13722319
Fuck off, it's great.
34ee85 No.13722336
>>13722211
Still assmad that Cuphead sold well, John?
ec050a No.13722340
>>13722211
>So tell me /v/, what are some really fun games that aren't very hard.
That's what easy mode is for, you nimrod.
>I'm sick of this "games must be hard to be fun" meme.
That has NEVER been the case because games that cause you to break your controller in frustration are never fun. Their just designed for try-hards who want bragging so that they can stay hip and "In the know". Games are not meant to be hard just to be hard. They are hard because you're putting together a skillset of combos, tactics, and execution methods to beat numerous challenges, and a good game will result in you failing who knows how many times, but also looking forward with a sense of confidence that "I will get it next time" and you pick yourself right back up.
Failure in games shouldn't be the result of cheap shots, unavoidable events, or "Hur dur, you're not smart enough anon. U bedder go study the wiki again this weekend."
a77109 No.13722345
>>13722324
>shitty platformer that has been getting dumbed down with each subsequent release
>great
3D sonic games are made for tards like you.
Brain dead with focus on style over substance.
efe59b No.13722355
>>13722211
Practice utilizing your motor skills to make your muscles react in conjunction with the information your brain processes from your vision.
40814a No.13722361
>>13722316
It's not the first time I heard that but is he really, I've been wondering all this time. I really don't want to believe it.
60d7dd No.13722378
Ideally, you want a game that offers a fair challenge, without becoming an exercise in masochism. Dark Souls and Cuphead are just right. I Want to be the Guy, not so much.
38fd31 No.13722383
>>13722340
Easy modes suffer the same shit that most hard modes do, just makes the enemies fall over when you look at them and the game isn't designed around it so it becomes a walking sim. I share your sentiment for the rest though.
>>13722362
Well at least you're contributing to the thread as you spout stupid memes.
56b189 No.13722388
But the most fun games are the ones that require effort to play. Games are GAMES, they shouldn't be interactive TV shows, they shouldn't be made for you to turn your brain off and zone out while playing. What's even the point of playing a game if there is absolutely no challenge to it? Just watch a show/movie.
Alternatively sort your fucking life out so you don't need to escape into the void of your mind just to experience FUN!
043a29 No.13722392
>>13722378
Or you could tow the line.
>>13722383
I hate this goddamn "comfy" meme. Games with no purpose aren't fun to me, and games that are easily and/or quickly beaten aren't fun.
It's distracting, sure. Entertaining? In the same way a fucking fidget spinner is. If you're okay with extremely simple-minded activity, why go to the lengths required to play a video game when you can just watch TV or play with your balls instead and get just as much enjoyment?
38fd31 No.13722397
>>13722388
I'm tired, I don't want to put effort in, and I don't have anything to watch.
>>13722392
No one said comfy you retard.
043a29 No.13722399
>>13722392
>tow
God damn it I fucking did it again.
<toe the line
043a29 No.13722402
>>13722397
This is you, isn't it?
d34196 No.13722404
>>13722340
Challenge serves a purpose. To push you to do better until the game beats you or you beat the game. Think metal slug. But Red faction gorillaz isnt hard, but it's fun. Dark souls isnt hard but its challenging.
Both games are fun because they allow a degree of freedom with how you play. Theyre more about experimentation than just skill. Figuring out what works can be part of the challenge. But that differs from skill challenge like a fast song in a rhythm game. Or a bullet hell level in a shooter
38fd31 No.13722413
>>13722402
That's not applicable because I'm not playing with someone else who wants to take the game seriously.
043a29 No.13722414
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d34196 No.13722415
>>13722362
>not back to nature.
Baka
e012b9 No.13722416
AWWW THEY MADE ONE GAME, ONE FUCKING GAME THATS A BIT CHALLENGING, LOOK AT ME IM A HUGE CAUSAL FAGGOT, I CANT DEAL WITH THIS SHIT , WHY ISNT EVERY GAME A PIECE OF SHIT CASUAL GARBAGE?
MUH COMFY AMIRIGTH GUISE
DO I FIT IN YET? PLEASE LET ME FIT IN
This is why we cant have nice things, end yourself you piece of shit
0aa286 No.13722418
Sorry if we fetishize skill too much for you anon
d34196 No.13722430
>>13722413
He never said it was. Answer the question. That's you, isn't it?
f381e8 No.13722439
>>13722392
>invent a mechanic that takes away the developer`s ability to make memorable gameplay sections
Why re-invent the wheel? Just make a fucking good game
56b189 No.13722449
>>13722397
>I don't want to put effort in
Then don't play games, don't complain about games, consume literally any other form of media. Complaining that games don't win themselves for you because you don't want to put effort in is pathetic.
5994a4 No.13722455
Go watch movies if you don't want a challenge you fuckin faggot.
38fd31 No.13722461
>>13722449
No. Easy games can be fun, and I want some fun easy games.
3423fe No.13722463
I enjoyed Slime Rancher. It borders mind numbing time waste and slightly complex fairly well.
>>13722361
The hgame dev curse is real.
fdf473 No.13722470
>>13722431
>than I'll give
boner ruined
6a73af No.13722478
>>13722431
This better not be futashit.
0aa286 No.13722479
>>13722461
>I wanna be a casual
Kill yourself. Go play xyz simulator or something.
I hear online facebook tetris is pretty easy
e012b9 No.13722488
>>13722461
Go to a guetto wearing girl clothes and play the "getting raped" game, you wont have to do anything.
5f11e6 No.13722496
Always funny to see /v/ whipped up into a dick waving contest about how hardcore they are.
81302d No.13722497
>>13722211
Not all games are for casual times anon. It's just the way things are.
56b189 No.13722505
>>13722461
Die idiot.
@13722496
>phoneposter
81302d No.13722512
>>13722505
You having trouble replying there mate?
e012b9 No.13722515
>>13722496
STOP LIKING HARD GAME! ITS A FUCKING MEME! YOU GUISE JUST WANT TO DICK WAVE! MUH COMFY
I would turn a faggot like you inside out by shoving my arm up your butthole and pulling your thongue out your ass. Am i hardcore enough for ya?
6a75f4 No.13722522
GODDAMMIT I FUCKING HATE VIDEO GAMES
a84be1 No.13722525
The work of one who consorts with beasts is pretty fun, and also pretty easy because a certain something is stupidly overpowered while also being the most fun move to use.
81302d No.13722529
>>13722522
Finally, a voice of reason.
56b189 No.13722536
>>13722512
>giving bait (You)'s
6a75f4 No.13722551
I REALLY HATE VIDEO GAMES
a7aba6 No.13722588
>>13722211
>Dean gets tripdubs while contemplating suicide.
153655 No.13722612
Well this thread is going to shit. What games have you guys been playing that's been giving you a hard time or at least challenging you?
I'm playing through Mary Skelter right now and some of the Nightmares can be tough. The Temple Nightmare wasn't that hard himself. The silly gimmick of how you fought him was what made it challenging. You had to break multiple parts of him inside a tower because he's gigantic. You can't heal outside of battle either. But the biggest fuck you is that there are hidden forced battles inside there. Step on one and the boss can attack you while you fight insanely powerful enemies. After some trial and error I memorized the hidden spots and kicked his ass. My party didn't really have anyone tank status or any defensive buffs so the enemies could OHKO some of my party members.
81302d No.13722623
>>13722612
I recently started playing C&C forged alliance, and I really wish the tutorial was a lot better because I have no idea what I'm doing.
e7f13c No.13722628
>>13722211
acquire proficiency
82e516 No.13722668
>>13722211
Enjoying your horseshit website crushing its insides out, NeoFag?
8eb517 No.13722677
>>13722211
Games do not have to be hard to be fun, but overcoming a challenge instills achievement. If there is no challenge, there is no achievement. Killing a dragon means nothing if you can do it in the first hour of a game without breaking a sweat. But a dragon that requires you to learn its combat patterns, to dodge and time your attacks, to take advantage of game mechanics and ultimately overcome.
The latest generations have been coddled by their parents, media and society, told they are special when they do nothing to achieve, standards lowered to allow them to progress and ultimately given too many allowances to let them win (in life) where they should fail, leading to an entitlement that everything should be so easy. So every time there is a Dark Souls or Cup Head that comes along and punishes people who refuse to spend the time learning how to play, dodge and master mechanics properly and get really mad at videogames, of course I'm going to laugh.
Irregardless, people on /v/ don't shit on you when you bitch about getting stuck in Cup Head or Dark Souls. They offer prompting or generalist advice, because there are only two things that ever hold you back in these games.
>1. A lack of understanding of the game mechanicds
>2. Yourself
38f8a3 No.13722742
>>13722211
Just use save states or game genie. That's what I do.
eef78f No.13722765
OP if you prefer videogames that do not reward your skill/mastery of its mechanics perhaps you should pursue some less interactive mediums of entertainment. the new Disney's(tm) Pixar's(tm) Star Wars (tm) Rouge one (tm) a Star-Wars(tm) Story(tm) should be some great enjoyment for you.
b03d8f No.13722775
>>13722211
I don't think a game should be hard. A game should challenge the player and require them to get better at said game in order to beat it. There's a difference between fair challenge and making a game unreasonably difficult.
153655 No.13722808
>>13722388
>>13722404
This. A game that's made to be easy will most likely lack in depth. Or whatever depth it would have doesn't matter because it will give you the same results as playing at the most basic level. Games were always made to have some sort of challenge until the past several years. Now they just throw a ton of rewards at you for not doing anything really tasking. It's also why many people don't remember lots of things about the game they played if it was easy. It all just blends together like a long drive on cruise control.
If I want to get comfy, I'll just read a visual novel. Even then, some VNs have gameplay that actually challenges you like Kamidori Alchemy Meister.
8c7dcc No.13723600
>>13722677
>Irregardless
IMMEDIATELY KILL YOURSELF
94fd74 No.13723608
f8e7ca No.13723613
>>13722211
Fuckin' casual
>waaah it's too hawd
Go play Gone Homo or something.
8c7dcc No.13723626
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13722775
>Things are a certain
>I'm not going to say how or why
Fuck off.
>>13722211
OP, since you're a faggot who doesn't want to put effort into anythi… I mean since you like Kirby maybe you'd like Klonoa.
0aa286 No.13723715
>>13723600
Irregardless is an actual word faggot. Don't fall for the Seth Macfarlane meme
82150e No.13723812
>>13722211
The problem is this: jst like with faggots, it's not enough to have both sides of the issue represented. 'Easy' and 'hard' games cannot coexist. As soon as you enable casual games to set in, their culture starts pushing out the skill based ones.
The solution is the essence of red pilling: acid and acrid, but working. You have to split the market and the communities in two, and keep them very far from each other.
82150e No.13723826
>>13722319
>never played a kirby game
>presumes it's kiddy shit because of the style
And people wonder why americans got angry kirby
c560da No.13723829
8c7dcc No.13723836
>>13723715
>Irregardless is an actual word
Used by morons who think more syllables makes them sound more smarterer.
f52c4a No.13724630
ea5464 No.13724749
>>13722268
I am having flashbacks just reading the filename
8d41d3 No.13724792
You would have got if me not for
>Every game that dumps a ton of deaths on you now is just so proud of itself for being le difficult dark souls clone
Too obvious, surprised so many people fell for it.
3b6574 No.13724832
>>13724775
What're you, gay?
3335e9 No.13725132
>m sick of this "games must be hard to be fun" meme.
what meme? most games are easy as shit and the only time a "dude so hard" game rolls around its because of reviewer/casual incompetence more than anything. Dark Souls isn't that hard but it actually punishes mistakes which was and is still mostly fucking unheard of in the modern market which is why people think its so hard
550e0f No.13725136
Games actually being a challenge is fun since it forces one to put in this little thing rarely seen these past two gens that being fucking effort into being good at a fucking game.
788b80 No.13725168
>>13722414
and there i was expecting that not to be porn
788b80 No.13725176
>>13722211
try katamari damacy, its not too hard to get the objectives, and its fun, until it gets boring
11b221 No.13725183
>>13722478
>>13724775
>>13724832
>I fap to futa.
>I'm not gay.
>Futa's pretty gay.
>But it's not gay if they're girls.
>Girls with dicks.
>It's not gay if she has a feminine penis
>She.
>Penis.
>Pick one, faggot.
Come on, anon. We've had this conversation a thousand times.
Enjoy your complimentary (you)'s
a301f1 No.13725209
>>13725183
What this anon says is true, I started fapping to futa and over time I'v started fapping to gayer and gayer shit.
It's a downward spiral.
I'm fapping to more girly/traps boys now. I'm haven't been fapping to buff dudes yet but if that happens in a few years I wouldn't even be surprised anymore.
3335e9 No.13725242
>>13725209
>>13725183
what about futa on female? that's like strap on porn right?
7d97c6 No.13725244
All jRPGs are piss easy so maybe you should play those you queer.
a301f1 No.13725294
>>13725242
You would think that.
but It starts with futa on female then it can easily go to Futa on Futa, and then you could get tricked to into Male on Futa.
Then at some point, You don't know when! it became male on male!
A girly male but still that shits gay.
11b221 No.13725326
Try out buff girls for a nice change of pace. Also, there is no penis.
39dd98 No.13725359
This is a place I didn't expect the thread to go.
e49e4b No.13725383
>>13722211
Acquire skill higher than thine current proficiency, knave.
3335e9 No.13725386
>>13725294
I can occasionly tolerate futa on female but if i see the futa on futa tag i generally go find something else. plus we all know patrcians fap to vanilla tomboy porn and maybe some light bondage
34ee85 No.13725430
>>13725359
It's usually either this or dubsposting, maybe a roll sheet if the vols are off their ritalin.
a301f1 No.13725455
>>13725386
When it comes to Porn I don't even try to argue with my dick anymore. it takes full control and the rest of me is just along for the ride, wondering where we're going to end up this time.
e49e4b No.13725480
>>13725455
This is really the pinnacle of fapping here. A true man allows his penis to guide him, regardless of what others think.
7783b0 No.13725494
e012b9 No.13725520
>>13725455
>>13725480
porn addiction is very real, before you know you will be fapping to gay shit
e49e4b No.13725534
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11b221 No.13725555
>>13725209
>>13725242
>>13725386
>>13725480
What are you all fapping to? Could we share some doujins or images?
In pic related female Oda Nobunaga unifies Japan by fucking.
>>13725520
Good thing that hairy macho man-ass on man-ass doesn't turn me on. There needs to be atleast something feminine in it to make it work for me. tbh. You've got a problem when you can't get it up for normal women anymore.
153655 No.13725602
>>13725183
It's like people who call out everything as homosexual have never actually seen what homosexuals actually watch. A quick look at 4/gif/ or /cuteboys/ or anything gayfur would quickly show you this.
>>13725520
That's not how it works. You don't just go from vanilla to full blown shitting dick nipples just from fapping too much. It's more like you are hard wired with a few dormant fetishes with some room to gain appreciation for different things. The reason we go on a cycle is that we're just looking for something different than what we are used to fapping to. That can range from something extreme to vanilla. Most people will discover some of their fetishes while some never do and stick to a variety of vanilla stuff.
I still find scat and pissing disgusting and always have. However I've come to love good leg, pantyhose, and sumata. Yet one of my main kinks is still paizuri and that has yet to change despite fapping for years to various stuff. Saying that, people who converted to homosexual material had something they already enjoyed about it in the first place but didn't realize it.
7783b0 No.13725616
e49e4b No.13725627
>>13725543
Man ass is gross, I can agree, if it ain't round I ain't takin' it to the pound.
>>13725555
I don't have much in the way of specific doujins in mind right now, but I did fap to this not too long ago.
ca4117 No.13725628
>>13725480
No, that's numale. A man's ideal nature is that of domination, of control. To truly unlock the greatness in your XY chromosomes, you must learn discipline and self- control.
Fapping addictions are a spiritual problem.
3335e9 No.13725641
>>13725627
>nose scar
oh lordy that gets my motor running
3b6574 No.13725687
You know what truly is the partician's porn?
A loving relationship between a fit tomboy and a muscular powerlifter where they have sweaty post workout sex for the purpose of procreation in the missionary position and then cuddle each other in the shower/bed
e49e4b No.13725710
>>13725687
>All those gross muscles
Might as well just watch two dudes fuck, faggot
7783b0 No.13725720
>>13725687
Sounds like an ideal, maybe when you're done in fantasy land you can join us here in the real world, where the majority of women let their tits get saggy the moment you say, "I do"
e012b9 No.13725779
>>13725602
>That's not how it works. You don't just go from vanilla to full blown shitting dick nipples just from fapping too much
Let me guess, you are still a newbie that will fap twice, maybe 3 times a day and get done.
Say that shit again when you are fapping more than 10 times a day. You start on the most vanilla shit and not even know how the fuck you ended fapping to the crap you are fapping to on the same day.
>>13725687
>muscular powerlifter
Listen virgin, you are sore and tired all the goddamn time when powerlifting, also making you hearth too muscular isnt good for sex
11b221 No.13725787
>>13725687
You got it, anon!
3335e9 No.13725797
>>13725720
>where the majority of women let their tits get saggy the moment you say, "I do"
pft, even earlier than that. my roommates girlfriend stopped giving a fuck the moment they got engaged and treats him like shit now. Normalfag memes also constantly promote being a trashy fuck. the shit you see if you put up with normalfags is appalling.
3b6574 No.13725808
>>13725787
Anon delivers, danks.
a301f1 No.13725840
>>13725555
I'm believe some of my taste in porn would be frowned upon. nothing as degenerate as vore or shit like that, but Due to my earliest porn viewing experiences being from Newground's Adult flash sections, the things I fap to are incredibly broad and often far lacking in the quality that is to be excepted when posting porn on /v/
I'v fapped to many over sized furry tits in my day.
3b6574 No.13725870
>>13725710
>>13725779
I just like a strength/size difference in my porn.
11b221 No.13725871
File: e87447e4092d630⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 97.38 KB, 625x900, 25:36, 1876231 - Fujiko_Mine Lupi….jpg)
>>13725797
Why not hit the gym to get buffed & find a fit girlfriend? That's what I've been thinking.
3b6574 No.13725882
>>13725871
One would assume his whole problem is that they stop being fit post a commitment.
39dd98 No.13725888
>>13725787
Ooh nice
>>13725840
Anyone who tells you some fetish is degenerate is just being a retard no fun faggot. Pay them no mind.
17ee60 No.13725908
I'm sick of these "hard games aren't fun" threads. Every thread that complains about difficult games mentions Dark Souls for no reason. So tell me /v/, why do people who are bad at video games make threads on this board?
3335e9 No.13725920
>>13725871
I have been taking my fitness more seriously lately, i work out at home and have started jogging but I'm still too pussy to go to a gym
a301f1 No.13725929
>>13725888 (checked)
I totally understand that but I also see that unless it's a Sonic thread kek /V/ isn't the place for fur shit.
39dd98 No.13725947
>>13725929
>/V/
What did you mean by this?
153655 No.13725963
>>13725779
If you actually want to know what I'm into besides those. It's loli, femdom, futa on female, vore, parasite, kemono, deepthroating, insects, size difference, stomach deformation, heart pupils, and kissing. I've found that fapping more than 2 times is pointless unless stupid horny. It's better to have 1 really good fap instead of many smaller ones. I'll just convince myself not to fap since I realize the pay off would be very unsatisfying. Then again, if you were addicted, that may not even matter.
My collection only consists of 2D though. Besides a few webms, there are no full videos. I've shared it a few times in the share thread actually.
a301f1 No.13725983
>>13725947
>What did you mean by this?
What did I mean indeed.
153655 No.13726018
>>13725908
Too busy losing to enjoy themselves. It's even worse for fighting games as casuals make up myths on why they can't play them.
>Everyone has been playing them for years. Therefor I will never get on their level.
Meanwhile my friend got on my level in 10 hours of gameplay just by learning from me, who has been playing for years while he's relatively new.
39dd98 No.13726021
>>13725963
I don't know why, but those fetishes seem really common. All the jap artists I follow on twitter have the same taste as you. Also that's a lot of pornography.
11b221 No.13726028
>>13725920
Where do you live? If I'm right next door, I can come joggin with you.
3335e9 No.13726035
>>13726028
I doubt you live in my RI and jogging with a stranger from the internet seems sketchy
11b221 No.13726046
>>13726035
>jogging with a stranger from the internet seems sketchy.
You're true about that, anon.
bb7f21 No.13726052
>>13726018
This. Fighting games are one of the few genres that casuals don't shit up by proxy. I mean I'm raw shit. Just plain awful and anyone with even a modicum of skill would probably laugh at me. But getting better is half of the fun.
>>13725920
>Tfw wanted to go bear-mode for a while
>Tfw also a baker
I'm literally trying to have my cake and eat it, too.
153655 No.13726104
>>13726021
Only a few of my tastes are extreme. Though I don't mind guro, I don't fap to it. Same with kemono. I don't fap to it but I like some of the art. Most of my "porn" is actually just ecchi and not actual screwing. As for it's size, it took ages to organize. Which is why there are so many files.
>>13726052
What do you play? I don't mind helping people get better. Right now I'm playing Nitroplus Blasters and Gundam Versus if you consider that a fighter.
ef631a No.13726114
>>13722211
>dank seouls
>difficult
>OP
>not sucking dicks
>this thread
>not a dubsthread
Check'em.
bb7f21 No.13726122
>>13726104
Recently picked up Guilty Gear Xrd-Revelator, and Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code. I'm just going to come clean and say I picked them because of characters I thought were cool.
332aed No.13726130
What games would those be OP because anything that was made in the last twenty years hasn't been hard at all. At most you get games that are just trial and error that are disguised as hard because you couldn't have possibly known what was coming and then you just beat it immediately after because you know whats going to happen.
ef4697 No.13726153
All games don't have to be ultra hard. By that same token, all games shouldn't be piss easy. That was the point of the difficulty option but developers got lazy with it by just changing health and damage parameters instead of number of enemies, placement and skills available.
bb7f21 No.13726174
>>13726153
This is always what bugged me about NG+ in games. It's usually the same game, but things are beefier. Using Dark Souls as an example, how great would it be if enemies were either placed differently, or came in groups where there were singles. Maybe entire bosses show up in different spots because "reasons".
153655 No.13726352
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>>13726122
Barely touched GG since XX Reload but Melty is pretty fun. I just got into it myself as I just found a friend to play. I would say give Chaos Code a try too. It has some pretty cool characters on top of some interesting mechanics. Like a chef grappler who slaps people around with sausage links or does a double lariat with dinner plates.
00416a No.13726416
>>13725602
Full blown homos don't like anything feminine. Faggots don't like futa because its girl and dislike traps because it feminine. Homosexuality is based around female hate.
c129ca No.13726429
A game does not need to be "hard" necessarily, but it does need to present some sort of challenge to be an actual game. Epic Yarn and many other modern Kirby games which piss all over Kirby's roots to pander to an extremely infantile edutainment-tier class of fans are sadly little more than Heroin Heroes.
e012b9 No.13726454
>>13725963
yeah , you are just a newbie, if i collected porn there wouldnt be enough space on google servers for it
11b221 No.13726508
>>13726416
Hello fellow shitposter. What have you been fappan' to?
3335e9 No.13726529
>>13726052
>>Tfw also a baker
most weight i ever put on was when i was working in a kitchen, glad i don't do that anymore
e012b9 No.13726540
>>13726416
>Homosexuality is based around female hate
thats a fact, you will always see a women hating tag on a crossdresser profile, pretty sure if you dig into full gay shit it only gets more obvious those fart smellers are full of hate
i wonder how much more we gotta shitpost for this thread to get deleted
3335e9 No.13726557
>>13726046
nice semen demon
e0f071 No.13726571
>>13722211
>I'm sick of this "games must be hard to be fun" meme.
Everyone is tired of that shit. Stop caring about other people and popular trends, on this particular occasion I mean. Play the games you like and don't be super twitter proud that you play easy games. That shit is just annoying. There is way more to games than difficulty.
I'm gonna put some context on how this shit works, so pay attention:
"Hard games meme" can be divided into two camps of people. One camp likes to just be entertained with very little effort on their part. They want to relax through inaction or just participate in a small way. The other camp wants to be entertained through challenge and overcome obstacles to be entertained. They want to "blow off steam" and relax through satisfaction of success. Both camps are equally valid in the terms of having fun in your sparetime. Most people are partly in both of the "camps".
We are talking about entertainment media, so none of this should matter outside of your personal experience. Do what you like, play what you want, and don't post about it arrogantly in the internet. But mostly thanks to human nature, socialmedia and marketing, people are pushed forcefully to buy and play things they don't like. This push creates controversy that is not wanted or needed…
Buuut while writing this, I noticed that this has become shitposting dubs thread, I'm out. Let's do a real meta-"gitgud" thread sometime in the future.if possible
153655 No.13726578
>>13726454
Quality over quantity. Anyone can fill there there HDD with a bunch of stuff they'll fap to once and never look at again.
6fa46f No.13726595
>>13726540
This thread is video games, it's not gonna go. and if that's true why are so many fags feminists?
11b221 No.13726596
>>13726557
I can post more if you do too, anon. The best images are yet to be post. :^)
f8c6b9 No.13726660
>>13723626
what retards made that for the wii? "you know what tihs game about a cute talking cartoon cat needs? i more realistic and less prismatic color palette"
e012b9 No.13726699
>>13726595
those arent fags, they are either betas trying to get any scraps or chads that want these crazed sluts to become even more degenerate
unless you mean how fags pretend to be PC, they do it just to fit in
9114a0 No.13726744
>>13722461
Your really bustin' my balls dude.
bb7f21 No.13726759
>>13726571
Not everybody. Most people don't care one way or another. It's just that the "media" has a pretty clear bias towards lowering the bar, calling any game that is remotely challenging the "Dark Souls of X". Which is funny because even dark souls wasn't difficult as much as it was not a game that made things easy.
You're forgetting that group makes up a third camp as well. They don't want easy games to relax to, they want to lower the standard of what is considered difficult for everyone, including the other two camps. We've seen it in how they treat the "gitgud" mentality completely negatively while praising nongames and "story rich" titles with as much interactivity as a show on tv. Games should be a challenge. Even if it's a small challenge it should still require the player to actually have to put a conscious effort into things.
>But while writing this, I noticed that this has become shitposting dubs thread, I'm out. Let's do a real meta-"gitgud" thread sometime in the future.
It's one post that's been ignored by everyone but you. You're just afraid of someone challenging your opinion.
6d1260 No.13726796
>>13722211
Well kirby you already got
Animal Crossing
Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley
Midboss
Thief 1+2 were sort of easy if you took it slow
Slime Rancher
A story about my uncle (This is actually the funnest, its about having a laser grappling hook)
Oxenfree (Not much of a game)
Yoshi games are about the same as Kirby in terms of difficulty
Viscera clean up detail
Neopets has some good minigames
Antichamber sort of counts, its a puzzle game though
Diaries of a Spaceport Janitor (I'm not 100% on this having a point though, I still can't find one of the idols)
3335e9 No.13726858
>>13726744
don't go there, i love and hate that artist because of that bullshit
e0f071 No.13726867
>>13726759
I think you have a solid good point - the third camp. Those who push games to be "a platform to everyone", like TV. Brainless to the point of being brainwashing. But those people, the third camp, are not really the consumers of games. My point was to focus on the camps that love games - both in it's own way.
>It's one post that's been ignored by everyone but you.
True. I did not want to be confronted for my post, I lost interest half way through writing that. Mostly because I like slower boards, but mainly because I think "The Big World" is better to be discussed elsewhere. Good post, It's nice to be called out, every once and a while.
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>>13726858
At least he's more jovial then autistic about it.
That and He makes me fall in love with Tewi
3335e9 No.13726895
>>13726883
I'm mostly in it for Mokou
f98a2c No.13726899
>>13722211
>(11)
That's fucking autistic.
4faf63 No.13726918
>>13726796
>A story about my uncle
More people need to play this game. It's short, sweet, knows what it's good at, and has a qt frog daughter for you. What more could you ask for?
de56bf No.13726939
Games don't need to be easy to be enjoyed casually. Tetris isn't necessarily easy, I mean you'll most likely die eventually, yet it's pretty much a casual game. I like to think Doom and Nethack as casual games because you can just hop in, play for a 10 minutes while pausing and doing something else at the same time. They don't require too much focus and investment from your part. Yet they're both quite hard and challenging.
Some RPGs can be easy yet requires you to have the right mood and enough time to enjoy playing them. They're not casual at all yet they can be like watching a movie when it comes to the difficulty. No challenge whatsoever.
6d1260 No.13726942
>>13726918
I hated Maggie really. All the frog people just looked wrong to me, and that bitch made me not use the grappling hook for one of the funnest sections with it.
And I'd ask for a level creating tool, I'd kill to see some challenge courses after I finished the ice caves without landing.
4faf63 No.13727003
>>13726942
You could have used it, just sounds like you wanted the achievement. That bit was no different than the ice caves in that respect, otherwise I agree, the ice caves were a great challenge, and I would love a level editor too. I can only imagine what other people could come up with
498763 No.13727068
Really good games can be light and fun to play but the best games really are the "hard" games i.e. games that you have to learn how to play and have average reflexes. I think most games that people call "hard" are actually pretty simple games it's just that they want something mindless that they can play and digest. And while it's fun to play something casual and mindless sometimes, there is nothing more rewarding than finally finishing something that you've been trying to beat for a long time.
6d1260 No.13727114
>>13727003
I was offered a challenge and I took it.
Being a completionist is terrible anon.
4faf63 No.13727141
>>13727114
I know this feeling all to well, friend.
1874c6 No.13727247
>>13726759
I think that there are actually 4 groups out there. I made a chart showing where they are all at. In my view the cancer is coming from people on the right side of the chart. Rather than just playing whatever they feel like, it has to be made into a social thing. They get together to talk about how cool they all are for playing the same game they decided was hard. They complain about how a need for challenge is a thing of the past and devs should focus on inclusiveness and accessibility. Either way, they're not playing video games they are just circle jerking. I think that people that hate difficulty and care about public opinion are probably more damaging though. They need to make changes to whatever everybody else is playing to get their satisfaction. It can be hard to tell how much someone actually cares about public opinion. Someone that can't stand the fact that they can't deal with difficulty may hide behind the comfy meme for example.
570345 No.13727265
La Mulana is a prevalent example of a game that is not really that fun but people overglorify because its punishment is hard.
2974dd No.13727287
>>13727265
>overglorify
Use real words.
7783b0 No.13727349
>>13727247
>that chart
The farther to the right you go, the more normalfag you become. Que poltards crying about SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING.
bb7f21 No.13727401
>>13727349
Did you hurt your arm reaching to make that connection?
550e0f No.13727633
c28ee7 No.13727861
>>13725294
>and then you could get tricked to into Male on Futa.
>Then at some point, You don't know when! it became male on male!
You don't know what you are talking about.
1st, it would be futa on male. It doesn't make much sense, but that is how it is.
2nd, you are likely to encounter male on male first than futa on futa.
Then there is also that you wouldn't develop homosexuality if you were not suppressing it in the first place. However an ability to appreciate futa and other publicly frowned upon fetishes would let you fap to something that could be considered gay.
>>13725779
>Let me guess, you are still a newbie that will fap twice
>Say that shit again when you are fapping more than 10 times a day.
What's the progression you are implying? To fuel "10 times a day" addiction not only do you need massive amounts of pornographic material, but you also need a lot of time not only to fap, but to find and download everything. It would take at least half a day, that would leave almost no room for anything else, meaning that this is not natural even for /V/ going shut ins, which are minority here btw.
In other words, fuck off with your bullshit.
>>13726578
He is either baiting or making stuff up for attention.
>>13726018
>Meanwhile my friend got on my level in 10 hours of gameplay just by learning from me, who has been playing for years while he's relatively new.
But that would only mean that you were always trash, while your friend was either hiding his powerlevel or has a way higher IQ than you do :^).
>>13725555
e0f071 No.13728036
>>13727247
Nice post. We need to have a good meta-"gitgud" thread. This is not it, I'm too tired to post good shit and the timezones combined with the semi-fast deletion of threads makes it nearly impossible to even have one. I think that the only way to do this, is to cross post from another board, or to just force it happen. If hotshit would give us a locked thread, with some moderation for 2 days, I think we could make some new shit happen.
So this is what pisses me the fuck off:
Gambling mechanics in games sold to minors, lack of reliable media coverage, gamers being demonized in the "nu-media", phone games using secretly mined data to specifically target "whales", no matter who they areage. Laws to get this in control is being delayed infinitely by lobbyists and representatives claiming to represent the democracy. These people are deliberately selling digital heroine to minors, and no-one is doing a god damn thing. It's bigger that us. It's about the future. Help me.
08a90c No.13728047
>>13727349
Except having lower values on the left and higher values on the right is pretty standard for graphs. And politics, you commie fag.
38fd31 No.13728318
>>13727247
That chart just makes everyone look like fags.
>>13728036
I'm fine with gamers being demonized, maybe that way everyone will fuck off. And I don't think government intervention is gonna save anyone from anything. Just look at pachinko in japan, or at least until they legalized gambling again.
79962b No.13728373
>>13722211
Not all games need to be hard to be fun. In fact, there are more casual games where you're bombarded with casual fun than there is hard games at all.
>Animal Crossing
>Kirby
>mobile games
a63a12 No.13729579
I was going to write some shit about it's about engagement which higher difficulty provides more of but then I re read the OP past the title and seen.
>for being le difficult dark souls clone.
IGN's 2 blocks down my guy,, they'll appreciate your shitter attitude more.
>>13722630
>Inferior PS1 version getting a higher score then the dream cast
Every time.
38fd31 No.13729595
>>13729579
Dark souls started the "you die a lot so it's really hard you guize" meme, which is why I included it.
e012b9 No.13729924
>>13726578
>>13727861
you have no idea kiddos, im like a lvl 99 at this shit, you are puny lvl 1s
153655 No.13730055
>>13729924
Post you collection in the share thread then.
570345 No.13730093
>>13727287
My point is conveyed, faggot. You hardly rebuked my statement.
acd170 No.13730100
>>13725543
When I did nofap, it was the complete opposite for me.
My tastes got increasingly more degenerate as it went on with the desire to fap to handholding and consensual bondage with plenty of kissing kept rising.
2974dd No.13730103
>>13730093
It's okay, you'll be fluent in English someday.
e012b9 No.13730126
>>13730100
when i do nofap i thinking about marrying and having kids, im fucked up
6a75f4 No.13730149
>>13729579
Victor was a cuck, Tommy is a real patrician.
3335e9 No.13730161
>>13730100
>consensual bondage
VERY patrician
60d7dd No.13730361
>>13722630
Which Jojo game is that, even? It doesn't look like a fighting game.
03f373 No.13730394
games need to be challenging to be good and fun, the challenge is the core component of a game and the only thing that separates it from passive mediums like film, music,or literature
there is nothing inherently wrong with those other mediums mind you, but if there is no challenge then there is no game
I surmise that the very essence of games is overcoming challenges, and the harder the challenge that is overcome the more of a game it is, meaning that if you easily overcome all challenges you barely played anything, and if you cannot overcome a challenge you are likewise not getting gameplay
332aed No.13730414
>>13730161
The only bad thing about it is how little of it actually exists.
cdb7ce No.13730425
>>13722268
I don't get how anons had trouble with this. I can beat this in every single thread it's posted without much trouble, beyond maybe fucking Owl, who triggers me no end.
3335e9 No.13730430
>>13730414
yeah it fucking sucks dick, bro. I found a few doujins here and there that entail that stuff and they're miles better than usual bondage stuff
dac39f No.13730434
>>13722268
what is it lads? My computer is saying its dangerous and im scared to open it to see if its a virus>>13722268
6a73af No.13730570
>>13726104
I legit wouldn't shit on it so hard if it was solely consensual.
The degenerate scum that don't care need to be chainsawed. Rape should always be only enjoyable no matter the cynicism.
>>13730161
Sounds a bit hot.
6a75f4 No.13730607
>>13730361
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future. It was the 2D fighting game by Capcom for arcades, PS1, and Dreamcast. Was most likely many westerners first exposure to Jojo.
5e0669 No.13730620
>>13722211
>muh darksouls meaymay
I VISIT REDDIT TOO MY DUDE
LOOK AT THIS EPIC RICK AND MORTY MEME I FOUND THERE
5e0669 No.13730631
>>13726571
>:
that's only used for quotes and lists, anon
use ; instead
459ce7 No.13730711
>>13722211
I recently played Dropsy. It was fine for what it is. I would suggest playing a point and click or maybe a light platformer like Shovel Knight?
153655 No.13730922
>>13730570
I don't really see the problem here. Everyone has something they're into and it shouldn't be a problem to fap to it as long as they don't shove it down anyone's throat or cause harm. If someone faps to gay shit I don't care.
d813fa No.13730960
>>13730922
Getting off to mutilation and murder is a mental illness. That pathetic edgy shit does nothing but reflect an actual degenerate subhuman with absolutely no natural sexual appeal.
d813fa No.13731117
>>13730960
That shit isn't a kink, it's just tryhard edgy shock value material from obnoxious retards meant to look as evil or twisted as possible.
d813fa No.13731387
>>13723836
I fucking loathe pseudonintellectuals.
c75b68 No.13732033
>>13730960
You're assuming sexual urges are linked to how a person acts or behaves. Like the idea that someone that has a rape fetish would most likely treat (or at least see) women/men as only object to satisfy him/her. Or if a man has a femdom fetish, they must put women on a higher totem pole than them. People don't control their fetish but people can warp their personality around one. Furries can end up being very obnoxious because their community is made up of people who knowingly are into something that many detest so they feel like underdogs (no pun intended). They've let their fetish dictate how they communicate. Though it doesn't help that the community is full of suicidal homosexuals.
Either way, it has nothing to do with how much sexual experience or appeal since fetishes are usually hard wired into our brain to find X as attractive.
>>13731117
While many edgy people do grab it just for shock value, that doesn't mean people can't find it attractive.
e99f86 No.13732871
>>13722211
Any JRPG, for starters. Eternal sonata, chrono cross, etc. Anything turn based that isn't tactics is pretty cake. Dynasty warriors is mildly enjoyable and easy as hell. Most 3d platformers like mario or ape escape are easy. Metroid games are fairly low on the difficulty scale, at least the ones I've played. For megaman, the ZX games are much easier than the older games, unless you play on hard mode.
a79f51 No.13733037
>>13732888
>/threading your own post
376338 No.13733068
>Challenges being fun is a meme
>>>/reddit/
>>>/neogag/
>>>/4chan/
3e4bfe No.13733070
004e9f No.13733077
99bc86 No.13733092
>>13730960
I once got hard when observing the mutilated bodies of females enemies on Fallout. I get why people get off to that shit in a sense of "blood of your enemies", "hatefucking", but people that get off to innocent people being tortured, yep thats definetly mental illness.
e8e912 No.13733192
>>13725787
>rape
>gangbang
and dropped
fb9d5e No.13733195
>>13722211
>Games must be hard
>Dumps a ton of deaths on you
There's no response to this except Git Gud. Few games, especially modern ones, "dump" deaths on you without warning. You just suck and got punished with death for that.
If you weren't a casual faggot, you'd acquire proficiency and learn how to not die. That is, itself, fun.
a1c90e No.13734267
>>13733077
I also think he is a redditor.
d813fa No.13734332
>>13733092
Thank you.
I don't care if it's just being cut a little, or zombies raping hot chicks, but if it's shit like destroying eyes or disemboweling, it should be shit on relentlessly and encouraged to kill itself.
ea8cec No.13734343
>>13732888
>/threading your own post
>for something that was already posted
>wasting trips
a0b17e No.13734357
>>13722211
I want to be the guy is a meme game, but it can be beat
Dank Souls was never hard, but simply required a mindset that had been trained out of people over the years by shitty devs and triple AYYY cancer.
Everything else that pretends to be "hardcore" by making you die a lot is just poorly designed.
ea8cec No.13734364
>>13734343
Wait never mind about the already posted thing, it must have been in another thread. The other points still stand though. You get the ax.
2ef5bb No.13734443
>>13734332
So harmless masturbation to something you personally find offensive is wrong and a mental but bullying someone into to suicide for being different is okay.
Seek help.
d813fa No.13734460
>>13734357
What if it's duel bosses absolutely tearing the shit out of you until you git gud? Even having their own combo meter just to mock you at how much they're going to fuck you up by being able to teleport and blow the shit up out of the battlefield?
ecd971 No.13734477
>>13734443
where the fuck do you think you are
d813fa No.13734492
>>13734443
>hurr being different
Absolute shit marginalization. There is nothing but pathetic depravity that retarded serial killers live off of and you can't defend wanting to see that shit.
I'm not validating your pathetic pseudointellectual compromising for the sake of convenience of your own fetishes bullshit I'd expect from fucking tumblr and deviantart with their "MUH KINK SHAMING!!1!1!"
692c7e No.13734602
>>13725326
Really glad there's no dick
d813fa No.13734620
d813fa No.13735053
>>13732033
Yes, it does mean that because there factually is nothing sexually attractive, just another shitty nonsensical brain defect retards are too insecure to accept and get overdefensive about.
Wanting to mutilate and murder a sexy or beautiful sexual partner is subhuman and mentally ill and I shouldn't have to state this simple human logic and morality, even on a shithole like /v/ infested with edgy retards that spew senseless contrarian shit just because they think it somehow looks more "smart".
People have absolutely no obligation to be tolerant or civil about this shit and they'll rightfully condemn and stigmatize it until the end of time.
2af345 No.13735097
>>13732888
>factually is nothing sexually attractive
on who's fucking authority?
d813fa No.13735110
>>13735097
It's called biology and hormones.
2af345 No.13735118
>>13735110
Don't try and pull that. Science is no where near close enough to understanding the brain enough to know why people develop certain fetishes.
ea8cec No.13735119
>>13732033
>First the fags, then the furries, then the bronies, then the pedos, and now gorefags are trying to justify their sick fetish on a roman tapestry alleywall of all things.
I don't know where you people come from, but you have to leave, and preferably kill yourself.
ea8cec No.13735125
>>13735097
>>13735118
>science doesn't explain why people develop fetishes.
Are you for real?
2af345 No.13735130
>>13735125
show me the evidence.
ea8cec No.13735134
>>13735130
C'mon anon, the thread has 245 replies. Why derail it now?
2af345 No.13735141
>>13735134
it has been off the rails for a long time now. Only a few people have bothered posting on topic and of those less than half are anything more than git gud.
d813fa No.13735144
>>13735118
>>13735119
Even people who fap to furry tits and fucking 3D pedos I find obnoxious and insufferable have roots in wanting to breed or enjoy intimately.
We wish only to inflict violence on our food we hunt and on threats to our existence as well as sentimentally other existences and objects we value. These subhumans pathetically have fucking nothing.
dcb0b5 No.13735152
>>13735118
Fetishes are mostly just Pavlovian conditioning. You fap while looking at a certain type of porn, and your body rewards you for it. Simple. A fetish is simply defined as a sexual attraction to something not inherently sexual (ie: something not the genitals or a universally erogenous zone). So attraction to dogs or kids or the same gender is NOT a fetish, no matter how much you dislike it. Attraction to tits is a fetish; despite it being a completely mainstream fetish that is accepted as "normal" in modern society, it has no basis in biology. Primitive tribes have the females walk around with their tits hanging out all the time, and nobody gives a crap.
2af345 No.13735163
>>13735144
I'm not into guro, but can you seriously not see that probably escalated from something softer? It could have all started with spanking and gone from there.
>>13735152
>So attraction to dogs or kids or the same gender is NOT a fetish
Look up what the definition of fetish is retard.
dcb0b5 No.13735175
>>13735163
>the definition of fetish
I've already provided it. "A fetish is simply defined as a sexual attraction to something not inherently sexual."
Did you try actually reading what I wrote instead of skimming it until you found one line you disagreed with? I thought not.
2af345 No.13735178
>>13735175
Then attraction to dogs and kids and the same six IS a fetish, as those are normally not sexual things.
dcb0b5 No.13735193
>>13735178
Right. I forgot we cut the genitals off of dogs, and children don't have functional ones until the legal age-of-consent for the territory you're currently in, and when two men are in the same room their dicks retract into their bodies.
ea8cec No.13735194
I am going to make this post for anyone who isn't fucking mentally ill so that other anons can see it,and form a coherent argument against this kind of perversion. My argument is as follows, you will not be able to refute it.
1. Sexual urges are given to you by your brain for the purpose of procreation, if we did not procreate sexually our brains would have no reason to give us these feelings as they would serve no biological function.
2. If you have a sexual desire that is not geared towards procreation let's use furries as an example. Then you are mentally ill, to what degree is up for debate, but you have a desire to have sex with something you cannot procreate with.
This is why we can objectively say pedos, furries, zoophilia, gore, and many more are rooted in mental illness. Your brain is broken, please seek help.
2af345 No.13735196
>>13735193
what the fuck are you going on about?
dcb0b5 No.13735203
>>13735196
Regardless of how you feel about the legality of pursuing sex with them, to think that children and animals aren't sexual is retarded.
2af345 No.13735209
>>13735194
>1. Sexual urges are given to you by your brain for the purpose of procreation, if we did not procreate sexually our brains would have no reason to give us these feelings as they would serve no biological function.
Humans feel many things that serve no biological function, there is a flaw in your statement.
>>13735203
Are you really claiming that dogs and kids are MORE sexual than tits? And you are really projecting here, 99% of people don't find anything sexual about animals or kids.
d813fa No.13735212
>>13735163
A fetish for spanking, femdom or bondage does not have any correlation with wanting to tear out intestines, ram dicks through eyes or fatally fuck brains. That is unmistakably only a mental defect that has nothing to do with the procreation or intimacy purpose and appeal of sex.
ea8cec No.13735217
>>13735209
>Humans feel many things that serve no biological function
Sexuality is not one of them. It is a purely biological function.
dcb0b5 No.13735220
>>13735194
>If you use a condom you're mentally ill because you're deliberately not procreating
>If you masturbate you're mentally ill
>If your wife gets cancer and has her uterus removed, you're mentally ill unless you dump her for a working brood bitch
Separating sex from reproduction is one of the crowning achievements of human sapience, so much so that it's commonly used as a metric for measuring the intelligence of other animals: whether or not they have sex for pleasure. To deny this for a basic appeal to nature fallacy only shows your lack of critical thought on the subject.
2af345 No.13735232
>>13735217
>Sexuality is not one of them
And what authority do you have to make that claim? Do you have proof sexuality is segregated from other mental functions?
>>13735212
It could easily go from spanking, to ryona, to guro. Happens with other fetishes.
d813fa No.13735237
>>13735194
People literally everywhere say they want to marry or have babies with someone. Loli and furry characters can possess the traits found behaviorally appealing in children and animals when fetishized, like catgirls going into heat or wanting to purr on their master's lap or lolis being able to play innocent for their parents or other authority figures.
In that sense, it's still founded in the desire to procreate and the sentimentality of romance that convenientlly and universally serves it with its appeal. The only obvious problem is that's fantasy and obviously completely unobtainable.
ea8cec No.13735241
>>13735220
>If you use a condom you're mentally ill because you're deliberately not procreating
False equivalence, you are using a condom to prevent pregnancy, or disease. This has nothing to do with sexual attraction.
>If you masturbate you're mentally ill
Also a false equivalence. You are relieving sexual pressure, this still doesn't mean pedophilia for example isn't mental illness.
>>If your wife gets cancer and has her uterus removed, you're mentally ill unless you dump her for a working brood bitch
You're three for three with false equivalence. That scenario still doesn't have anything to do with sexual attraction.
>>13735232
>And what authority do you have to make that claim?
Biology.
2af345 No.13735256
>>13735241
Would you like to cite a study of some kind or continue talking out of your ass?
dcb0b5 No.13735261
>>13735241
Your entire claim was that fucking something that you can't procreate with is mental illness. I provided three examples where you can fuck something that cannot procreate with. Just because you know a term from proper debate doesn't mean you're using it correctly.
Here's one you can't get out of: If pedophilia is so wrong, then how is knocking up a 12-year-old girl wrong? It's procreation!
d813fa No.13735266
>>13735194
>>13735237
In other words, the brain is still working as ot should, but things got a little glitchy.
>>13735232
That makes absolutely no sense. There has to be a preexisting appeal and a conscious desire for a fetish to "intensify".
Wanting to beat someone mercilessly without sexual pleasure intended for the victim is not the same thing as bondage.
ea8cec No.13735271
>>13735256
Please educate yourself.
>>13735261
Your entire claim was that fucking something that you can't procreate with is mental illness.
Correct.
>I provided three examples where you can fuck something that cannot procreate with.
And they were all incorrect.
f8c987 No.13735275
>>13735194
Wait a minute. Girls can have children at awfully young ages.
bdaeae No.13735276
>>13735194
>Sexual urges are given to you by your brain for the purpose of procreation
True
>if we did not procreate sexually our brains would have no reason to give us these feelings as they would serve no biological function.
False. You don't need a biological pretext in order to engage in sexual activity. Humans have evolved to choose when they can procreate, and sexual activity is perceived as a recreational activity.
>If you have a sexual desire that is not geared towards procreation then you are mentally ill
False. As previously mentioned, and because sexual activity can be engaged in for the purposes of recreation, it is possible to utilize sexual activity for personal gratification, without bringing a life into the world.
>This is why we can objectively say pedos, furries, zoophilia, gore, and many more are rooted in mental illness
The (rightful) disgust that the majority of the population has with these types likely stems from their subversion of what is considered a social norm (i.e. most "normal" people do not have sex with children or animals). The simple fact that some of these people can be classified as mentally ill is a secondary piece of information that does not necessarily have any meaningful importance to discussion over whether or not said activity should be considered acceptable.
dcb0b5 No.13735278
>>13735271
I like how you just ignored my challenge about pedophilia. Therefore you concede the argument. Therefore you lose. Good day, sir!
6037bc No.13735279
>>13735271
are you telling me you can get a condom, a hand, and a barren woman can be impregnated?
d813fa No.13735280
>>13735261
Pedophilia is wrong because you're intended to be attracted to a properly developed woman that will bear healthy offspring and even in the case of sentimentality, kids are fucking annoying ugly retards you'd have to be legitimately brain damaged to find sexually or romantically appealing. Loli knows this and deliberately works to remove any and all realistic and physically and psychologically unattractive negative aspects.
This is why pedophilia is a mental illness.
2af345 No.13735282
>>13735266
>There has to be a preexisting appeal and a conscious desire for a fetish to "intensify".
No there doesn't. The brain is a chaotic thing. Maybe you found some porn with spanking a little harder than before, and it awakened the fetish in you.
>>13735271
Those aren't looking like proofs friend. If you are so educated it should be no problem to point specifically where it says that sexuality is fundamentally divided from other mental functions.
d813fa No.13735287
>>13735261
>>13735280
Let's not forget even enabling lolis to safely get pregnant or have nice big tits.
dcb0b5 No.13735298
>>13735280
Twelve-year-old girls can bear perfectly healthy babies, though. The rest of what you said is just your opinion.
ea8cec No.13735300
>>13735276
>You don't need a biological pretext in order to engage in sexual activity.
That is true, but has nothing to do with what you are sexually attracted to. Try again.
>it is possible to utilize sexual activity for personal gratification
Something being gratifying has nothing to do with sexual attraction. You don't argue in good faith I see.
>likely stems from their subversion of what is considered a social norm
The revulsion is instinctual, and completely natural.
>>13735282
>sexuality is fundamentally divided from other mental functions.
It isn't, and I never said that.
2af345 No.13735314
>>13735300
>It isn't, and I never said that.
Well that takes us back to my original claim about the flaw in your logic. Humans feel many things that don't make sense from a biological standpoint, why should sexuality be any different?
dc483d No.13735325
>>13735280
>you're intended to be attracted to a properly developed woman that will bear healthy offspring
<moving the goalposts from "procreation" to "having procreation to produce healthy offspring"
You're not very good at this.
>kids are fucking annoying ugly retards
>my taste > your taste
Nice argument bra
dcb0b5 No.13735329
>>13735300
So when you fap, are you sexually attracted to your hand? When you look at porn, are you sexually attracted to pixels? You've got an extremely narrow and subjective idea of what "attraction" is, which of course conveniently lines up with exactly what you are.
You've still not addressed the simple fact that humans have sex for pleasure and for social bonding reasons. Lions have gay sex for the second reason; why can't humans?
2ba10e No.13735332
Mate I"m not even good at videogames and barely complete them but what you said is fucking wrong
d813fa No.13735339
>>13735282
Spanking is still meant to be pleasurable for the receiver. Ryona is meant for assholes who want a legitimate bitch to get beat up before getting fucked.
I do believe it has a vile tendency to mutate into that shit, but masochism in general means sex is intended both somewhat painful, but still enjoyable for all parties.
c75b68 No.13735344
>>13735053
>Yes, it does mean that because there factually is nothing sexually attractive
That's the whole point of a fetish anon. It's an intense sexual attraction to something whether sexual or not. Someone sticking their dick in an asshole, where feces come from, makes no sense for humans yet some find it attractive for various reasons. It's just a way more acceptable one.
>People have absolutely no obligation to be tolerant or civil about this shit and they'll rightfully condemn and stigmatize it until the end of time.
No one was saying "tolerate my shit fetish". Just that the people who have them aren't borderline serial killers or demons.
>>13735119
>justify
No one is even doing that here. You just think it's that way because you don't see how anyone can have such tastes. The point I'm getting at is that their fetishes are just there with them. I don't need to justify my love for tits just as you don't need to justify your kinks or fetishes.
>>13735194
>2. If you have a sexual desire that is not geared towards procreation let's use furries as an example. Then you are mentally ill, to what degree is up for debate, but you have a desire to have sex with something you cannot procreate with.
So liking breasts, legs, certain hair styles, certain clothing, and certain personalities makes someone mentally ill? None of these have anything to do with procreation yet everyone likes something from one of these things.
ea8cec No.13735345
>>13735314
I said sexual feeling are given to you by your brain for the purpose of procreation. That doesn't imply that part of your brain is separate from anything. You're insane, please seek help.
>>13735329
You're argument makes no sense. When you look at porn, or use your hand to masturbate you are still sexually attracted to what ever the screen is depicting. Having sex for pleasure still doesn't change the fat that what you are sexually attracted to is determined by your brain for the purpose for procreation. You are mentally ill, seek help please.
bc1da5 No.13735350
The best thing about the MUH HARD GAMES circlejerkers is they don't actually play hard games. They play dork souls and shit with artificial difficulty for meme cred, but have never played a game like Chaser or Iron Storm. Losers.
ea8cec No.13735351
>>13735344
>So liking breasts, legs, certain hair styles, certain clothing, and certain personalities makes someone mentally ill? None of these have anything to do with procreation yet everyone likes something from one of these things.
Some people like large breasts yes, but that doesn't change the fact that pedophiles, and homos are mentally ill.
2af345 No.13735353
>>13735339
And guro is excluded from being enjoyable for all parties? With the power of imagination tons of people make porn where the person getting destroyed wants and enjoys it.
>>13735345
>I said sexual feeling are given to you by your brain for the purpose of procreation
And I'm saying the brain functions in ways that do not accord with biology. You are very sneakily dodging the crux of the argument here.
ea8cec No.13735362
>>13735353
>And I'm saying the brain functions in ways that do not accord with biology.
The depth of your delusion is unreal.
ab5f7c No.13735366
>>13735194
>you can procreate with niggers
>wanting to fuck niggers isn't a mental illness
HOL UP
dcb0b5 No.13735368
>>13735345
>I said sexual feeling are given to you by your brain for the purpose of procreation
Irrelevant. Humans can freely disassociate their instincts from their needs or desires. That's part of what makes humans better than animals. Unfortunately, you seem bent on doing nothing that isn't basic biological needs. WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE?! Shouldn't you be off trying in vain to get laid, or stuffing your face with food to add more layers of fat for the coming winter months?
d813fa No.13735369
>>13735344
>No one was saying "tolerate my shit fetish"
Just for that I don't want to argue with you.
>aren't borderline serial killers or demons
But for that much in particular it absolutely is mentally ill and in no way rooted in any natural sexual desire. That's why we can insult the shit all we want and only retards will try to act like it's acceptable.
b89bd4 No.13735372
>>13735353
>And I'm saying the brain functions in ways that do not accord with biology.
How does it function the, magic? Kill yourself you utterly retarded dipshit.
2af345 No.13735377
>>13735362
>>13735372
Not an argument. For example why does the brain like music? What makes music so important biologically that people will pay thousands of dollars to seek it out?
ea8cec No.13735382
>>13735366
Well it's not a mental illness, but not a good idea either.
>>13735368
>Shouldn't you be off trying in vain to get laid
Arguing with holes huh? You should take a long time to think, and sort yourself out.
>>13735377
Gradually, I began to hate them.
d813fa No.13735385
>>13735353
No, but shit like nonconsensually destroying limbs, eyes or even disemboweling or butchering to cook is.
All I care for is condemning that shit specifically.
b89bd4 No.13735391
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13735377
> Honest to fucking god resorting to argument from ignorance
You are about as smart as the average creationist.
a7639c No.13735393
>>13722211
I feel your pain, anon.
>was always super good at games but then adulthood happened
>can play most "hard" games with relative ease up until the very end
>i eventually hit a wall that takes me more than two hours to beat, and i stop playing for months, possibly drop the game
>i dropped hollow knight since I'm 99% completion and the fool's trial takes so goddamn long to finish, and no way I'm finishing the game without 100%, having then to go through the white palace again
Admit it, some parts of some videogames are close to impossible if you're on a schedule.
I generally don't have the time to let my fingers learn all the patterns before i have to quit the game, and next time i play I'm starting from scratch.
2af345 No.13735398
>>13735382
Nice job completely escaping the argument so you can pretend you have won. You refuse to offer evidence to support your stance, and will not answer me directly. It's ironic you're quoting hitler arguing with jews when you so clearly argue like a dirty yid.
>>13735385
Well you can condemn what you want man. I'll be honest I kinda forget what the original argument between me and you was.
ea8cec No.13735403
>>13735398
>You refuse to offer evidence to support your stance
No you just ignored it.
>I'll be honest I kinda forget what the original argument between me and you was.
Perhaps if you were healthy mentally you would remember.
2af345 No.13735411
>>13735391
Yet you still don't provide evidence. Show me where music has been proven to be a biological need.
>>13735403
>No you just ignored it.
Show me where then. Posting an image of a biology textbook is not evidence.
dcb0b5 No.13735412
>>13735382
>Arguing with holes
What? Have you descended so deep into your own retardation that your language is reverting? Keep in mind that language is also not created by biology. Humans made that up, same with computers and pixels. What you really ought to be doing is grunting and hitting the computer with your fists because you don't understand it, as that's all your pitiful little biological urges are capable of doing.
6037bc No.13735416
>>13735403
this man is a false flag trying to look like /pol/ and a goon at the same time, ignore and report when you see this shit
9a311f No.13735421
>>13735391
>Current year
>Not having the webm
97edae No.13735422
>>13722211
Games don't have to be hard to be fun.
Games do have to have a reasonable fail state that the average player can reach on accident to be fun.
Gamers have gotten better, as a whole, at playing video games. The video games that they play have to be harder in order for them to be fun, otherwise it's just a stupid-easy cakewalk.
Not every game has to be targeted at gamers. Go play a standard Mario game. Go play Zelda. Those aren't games for gamers - they're games for everyone else. Sometimes people get into video games by playing these games, and they get better at playing video games and end up where the rest of us are.
It's OK that you're not a gamer. It's OK that you do not want to get good. Not everyone does. But do keep in mind that unless you have a mindset that it is good to try to get good, you really shouldn't be playing the games that most of us here play.
tl;dr see pic
1379dd No.13735424
>>13730570
>Sounds a bit hot.
its up there
ea8cec No.13735425
>>13735411
>Yet you still don't provide evidence. Show me where music has been proven to be a biological need.
Observe how he argues anons. He attempts to relate something completely different from what is being discussed make you accept his flawed argument. Shameful.
>>13735416
I'm just arguing with the mentally ill, thread is already at bump limit. I just hate all these fags trying to defend their disgusting shit.
c75b68 No.13735431
>>13735261
Hebephilia isn't pedophilia.
>>13735280
>properly developed woman that will bear healthy offspring
A little after a girl has their first menstrual cycle they're able to properly reproduce. And the younger the age, the less likely they will be able to get vaginal cancer. This was why the age of consent used to be around 14 because every girl should have had their period by this point.
2af345 No.13735434
>>13735425
Observe how he argues anons. He attempts to attack the other position to escape the press for evidence on his claim.
800d3b No.13735445
>>13735422
Maybe you should follow your own advice, heretic.
>>>/furry/
ea8cec No.13735446
>>13735434
Oh c'mon anon, no need to get hostile when you're wrong. We can't all be right all the time.
dcb0b5 No.13735447
>>13735425
>He attempts to relate something completely different from what is being discussed make you accept his flawed argument
You do a fantastic job summarizing yourself. You STILL HAVE NOT ADDRESSED how pedophila can be wrong when when it's possible to procreate with preteen girls.
>>13735431
It's equally illegal, though, therefore equally "wrong".
b89bd4 No.13735450
>>13735411
> argument from ignorance
> Arguments of this form assume that since something has not been proven false, it is therefore true. Conversely, such an argument may assume that since something has not been proven true, it is therefore false. (This is a special case of a false dilemma, since it assumes that all propositions must either be known to be true or known to be false.) As Davis writes, "Lack of proof is not proof."
ea8cec No.13735455
>>13735447
>You STILL HAVE NOT ADDRESSED how pedophila can be wrong when when it's possible to procreate with preteen girls.
You're going to jail.
b89bd4 No.13735460
>>13735434
> give me evidence why it's not magic!!!
Actually commit suicide.
d813fa No.13735463
>>13735445
>catgirls
>furry
Are you fuckinf retarded?
6037bc No.13735464
>>13735455
you know being a goon is a bannable offence right?
dcb0b5 No.13735465
>>13735455
Irrelevant and I don't even like little girls, you retard. You cannot use your argument to refute this claim, which proves that it is false. QED.
ea8cec No.13735476
>>13735464
>I'm a goon for being against pedophilia
Maybe resetera, or neogaf is more your speed.
2af345 No.13735479
>>13735446
You're pathetic. You've completely shifted the discussion so you are no longer responsible for providing evidence.
>>13735450
>>13735460
Nigger you don't even know when your precious fallacy is applicable. You are arguing that because we don't know how the brain operates, it must in reality operate exactly how you believe it to.
6037bc No.13735483
>>13735476
>has the gall to direct me to his home
ab5f7c No.13735490
>>13735463
whats pic related then?
dcb0b5 No.13735509
>>13735490
A human woman with ears and a tail.
ab5f7c No.13735513
>>13735447
>You STILL HAVE NOT ADDRESSED how pedophila can be wrong when when it's possible to procreate with preteen girls.
Because girls can procreate before they a physically suited for giving birth. Second - they can procreate before they are mentally inept of taking care of a child plus socially distanced.
ab5f7c No.13735516
File: 352f924324babc4⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 40.27 KB, 527x526, 527:526, e48d109c4581032634ed66bcc8….jpg)
>>13735509
How about this?
d813fa No.13735523
>>13735516
Fuck off, Marche.
72bb22 No.13735528
>>13722463
>The hgame dev curse is real
So if I create a porn game I'll finally be released from this mortal coil? Or does it specifically need to be in stylized like japanese cartoons?
d813fa No.13735534
>>13735528
Stylized like anime or like sexy adult flash.
ab5f7c No.13735539
>>13735523
Is it possible to post that human without being called Marche? That bloke sure has made a name for himself.
dcb0b5 No.13735545
>>13735513
Both of those are social matters, though, having nothing to do with a biological urge to procreation. From a purely biological standpoint, the brain recognizes that pubic hair and breast development signals that a girl is fertile (which raises another point; how can men logically be attracted to flat-chested women or those who have shaved all their body hair??) and is not capable of "thinking" about the consequences. Biology, which was the other anon's argument, goes as far as "if there is grass on the field, play ball", and no farther.
>>13735516
Kinda furry, because she has a bit of a muzzle. But you have to lose that stupid human hair (that is not the same color as the rest of the fur) to make it properly furry.
d813fa No.13735546
>>13735539
No. She is kind of hot tbh, tho.
d813fa No.13735555
>>13735425
I sympathize, but I've carefully thought out the arguments for simply being attracted to a female form VS subhuman unsympathetic mutilation and murder.
b89bd4 No.13735562
>>13735479
> The brain clearly works on fucking magic because I don't know how it works
That's because you're a dumbass that was probably bottlefed and homeschooled. Neuroscientists have a fairly good idea of how the brain works; just because you don't because you're a wilfully ignorant fuckwit doesn't make it any more true that it runs on fucking magic. Every single time throughout the history of science, when "magic" was posited as a solution, science has proven it wrong, every single time. A natural solution has and will always succeed over a supernatural solution. Gravity is not "intelligent falling". The planets are not gods flying across the firmament. Sickness is not caused by an imbalance in the humors. Mental illness is not demonic possession. Disease, drought, and famine are not a punishment for failing to sacrifice virgins. Lightning is not Zeus throwing spears from Mount Olympus. The soul is not the result of fucking MAGIC.
> I'm not using argument from ignorance, you are!!
Pathetic.
dcb0b5 No.13735567
>>13735555
Everyone has their own opinions on this. For me, the purpose of sex is to share pleasure with another person whom you romantically love. Obviously, any kind of fetish to giving severe pain to the partner goes against this.
Also, rape isn't "sex", per se. It's masturbation mixed with violence.
ab5f7c No.13735580
>>13735545
>pubic hair
I don't think that has much to do with attraction. Its more a young fertile / mature deal.
> how can men logically be attracted to flat-chested women
I have never met a man who unironically like small breast. The only argument for the non-huge breast is that smaller one are supposedly more firm.
Liking flat-chested is a meme.
Also what pic 2 related then?
ab5f7c No.13735585
>>13735580
correction - attraction based on development between fertile and non-fertile
d813fa No.13735602
>>13735567
Yes, anon, and opinions that favor that are shit.
d813fa No.13735607
>>13735580
>edgy flatfaggot retardation is just a shit meme
I love the direction things are heading.
b89bd4 No.13735610
>>13735567
> rape isn't sex, it's masturbation mixed with violence
Does that mean if I punch myself in the face while jacking off I'm raping myself?
d813fa No.13735612
72bb22 No.13735617
>>13735580
Those cats have tits.
dcb0b5 No.13735619
>>13735580
No, I'm not saying specifically attraction to a flat chest, but asking how it's possible to be attracted to a woman WITH a flat chest. Since they are signal of fertility, by the "biological" argument, the brain should interpret a flat-chested woman as a prepubescent girl, and not be attracted to her.
>>13735610
Only if you don't enjoy it. Which would make you lose your boner. So you couldn't masturbate. Therefore, it's actually a Catch-22.
b89bd4 No.13735627
>>13735619
> the brain should
See this is where your logic falls apart
d813fa No.13735641
>>13735567
>>13735607
Even rape a majority of the time satisfyingly becomes enjoyable and animalistically satisfying to the victim in a corrupted way and all kinds of both men and women share a closet love of that aspect, even fantasies.
d813fa No.13735643
dcb0b5 No.13735660
>>13735627
Not my argument! I was using it being a failure of logic as yet another way to prove that the "muh biology" guy's argument posted way back in >>13735194 is incorrect.
>>13735641
I meant real rape, not anime "rape" which is just forceful sex where the woman actually wanted it and enjoys it thoroughly after moaning "no no!" a few times. That's not rape so much as it is unspoken role play.
ab5f7c No.13735684
File: 0f79cfd6f81ecbe⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 456.88 KB, 1080x1920, 9:16, Marceline_Wallpaper_Phone_….jpg)
>>13735619
Breasts aren't the only factor. Everything that defines a female would attract a male. Feminine face, hips, legs, smell, skin softness, hair, etc. In fact a face is probably a majot factor and you can judge a lot of thing about a woman by her face, thats just how males have toned their way to pick proper mates. In fact, I'm completely capable of jacking it only to a pretty face.
Pic related for instance is great so this, although the rest is also great.
d813fa No.13735690
ab5f7c No.13735691
my English is off the charts today
dcb0b5 No.13735699
>>13735684
Yes, but besides breasts and pubes, a lot of that is present to a muted degree before puberty. The difference between boys and girls body-types becomes marked and obvious by about age six or so.
That pic does have a very nice face. Get rid of the tits and add a dick, and I'd totally do her. Lol.
ab5f7c No.13735731
>>13735699
>a lot of that is present to a muted degree before puberty
Ye, no.
dcb0b5 No.13735745
>>13735731
So you're saying that before puberty there is no physical difference between males and females?
ab5f7c No.13735778
>>13735745
Aside from benis and bagina, faces can also be kinda hard do differentiate if they aren't coated with social based cues such as hair length, clothing and others.
dcb0b5 No.13735790
>>13735778
I would disagree. Besides, it's not like that noticeably changes after puberty. Plenty of adult men could pass for women if they shave and have long hair.
ab5f7c No.13735830
>>13735790
Nope, its either recognizable or they are using hormones, which works, I'm guessing, only until they reach 25 or something. Even that is giving them too much.
2af345 No.13735885
>>13735562
>Neuroscientists have a fairly good idea of how the brain works
Then surely you can give me some of this evidence I've been demanding for the past 50 posts. You are so very clearly knowledgeable about this subject, so you can point me in the direction of the evidence supporting the other anon's claim.
Fucking mods banned me for the wrong reason and not the other people still posting about it. Spoilered to not trigger the vols.
8d048a No.13739656
>>13725097
>not liking comfy
d813fa No.13742756
414061 No.13746939
>>13735509
>dawg
>posting the second-hand censored version