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File: 5d760d9494eb8b1⋯.jpg (379.61 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, howl.jpg)

13ff72 No.13683318

Is it worth it, how long does it take to beat it? I don't want to waste time grinding in RPGs anymore.

fa5913 No.13683325

You can beat the main story without too much grinding, but you kind of chose the wrong game.


a3253a No.13683335

> I don't want to waste time grinding in RPGs anymore.

nigga this game IS grinding, if you don't enjoy grinding, well you can probably do the main story in 2 or 3 days provided you don't suck at TBS


e7e9c7 No.13683367

You only need to grind in post game and doing it smartly will cut the grinding time down by a ton. If you need to grind to beat the main story, which is easy with the exception of a few missions, then you're either not using all your tools or just bad at TRPGs.


19885e No.13683374

>NIS shit

never


13ff72 No.13683532

How many hours does it take to beat it?


55664b No.13683540

>JRPG

>I don't want to grind

You shouldn't play a JRPG if you want good gameplay or good story.


3a53ad No.13683625

File: 831a78c4b9ba21a⋯.jpg (418.63 KB, 1152x648, 16:9, bc61fcb5156f019b135b932163….jpg)

>Is it worth it

>NISA


e8722f No.13684038

Game being ultra grindy AND turn based resulted in Disgea being one of the worst games I've ever played.

No amount of cure lolis can fix it.


f6c9d8 No.13684071

>>13684038

Game is not grindy at all for the main story, which is worth playing through. If you had to grind, you suck balls at the game.


e8722f No.13684092

>>13684071

There is not skill involved, you can't be "bad" or "good" at disgaea.


69056b No.13684165

>>13684092

It's all about abusing the crap out of the game mechanics you're given. You can play the whole main story without repeating a level for more XP if you know what you're doing. Problem is, first time through you won't know all the tricks.

Check out some speedruns if you don't believe me.


7255f7 No.13684589

File: 43da93b8cda7752⋯.png (655.36 KB, 800x800, 1:1, semen demens.png)

File: ebda48a20d9ba2f⋯.jpg (171.49 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, etna tongue.jpg)

File: 309d40b0df4f279⋯.png (432.19 KB, 543x1137, 181:379, etnarmpit.png)

File: 1cf44ea8b6421d3⋯.jpg (95.78 KB, 706x1000, 353:500, etnapose.jpg)

>nobody posted even safe, unspoilered lolis or any cute girls yet

>when the series has tons

>>13683532

Your first try will probably take no less than 50 hours for the main story unless you use guides which would probably kill your enjoyment that early, more time if you fuck around. It's impossible to say how long it'd take you to finish post-game.

>>13684092

Quite the contrary, you can be awful and you can be great and the difference is huge. You cannot fuck up a character permanently, but not doing it right means you spend many hours more and get worse results anyway. The postgame is about jewing the system pretty much, a good goy who doesn't understand the game's law will not die, but he'll do very badly.


b8ffbb No.13684710

>>13683318

I love grinding but can't waste my time on story.


6a3691 No.13684721

File: c64627582006e79⋯.jpg (444.02 KB, 983x1400, 983:1400, f3a06bdf0b5d3af369f62321f0….jpg)

The one on the left (Flanne?) is cute.

Maybe I'll play it for her one day.


8e8781 No.13684752

File: 6f2cc8fab214bf6⋯.png (34.73 KB, 188x188, 1:1, Handa.PNG)

Play Trillion: God of Destruction instead, it's better than anything the Disgaea team made at NIS before quitting due to getting supposedly royally fucked by management.


c84d01 No.13684766

File: 9a4a1656b4e44ae⋯.jpg (327.48 KB, 1000x739, 1000:739, 5a010106f266a746370bbdd692….jpg)

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File: 072234b3c1e5170⋯.png (282.67 KB, 600x800, 3:4, e06a9ba31de1c779f7ac853bd8….png)

Its a pity that they will never fully utilize Prier again.


de8ccf No.13685558

>>13684766

one of the best fucking characters they ever did fated to forever appear in cameos for other games


29bb64 No.13685568

>>13683318

Fusing and capturing enemies in this game will get you strong enough characters to deal with baal

You can finish this game within a reasonable amount of time


2ee337 No.13685633

Which one is the best out of 3, 4, and 5?


89482e No.13685643


a21b51 No.13685654

File: 17fc587e19eda67⋯.jpg (112 KB, 850x1238, 425:619, etna.jpg)

game is grindfest but etna is best waifu


7255f7 No.13686808

File: 0b1f84ff72bb421⋯.png (648.01 KB, 276x600, 23:50, femang.png)

>>13685633

From the games I've played 5 has the best gameplay, 1 still has the best story.

>>13685654

Celestial angel is best waifu and her eyelids deserve to be covered in semen, too bad she has no art. At least named angel girls have something but they aren't the same.


2e0ff5 No.13686974

>>13684710

As far as I'm aware, every cutscene in the Disgaea games is skippable. Also, you don't really miss much by ignoring the story (unless you like Japanese shopping channel jokes).

(Note: By "the Disgaea games" I don't mean the VN. It's 100% concentrated Japanese shopping channel jokes. Avoid.)


013fd0 No.13687005

File: ed0e47d4122ecbb⋯.jpg (37.67 KB, 355x368, 355:368, UberUlillillia.jpg)

Disgaea is a great game, pirate it or get the one published by Atlus. What ever you do never ever give money to NISA.


013fd0 No.13687012

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13685633

don't listen to the faggot who said D2. D2 has been known to brick peoples PS3's and crashes when ever you use a spell with a flame effect.


3ac300 No.13687013

The fun of the game is grinding and breaking the game, only playing the story will only get you half the game


92fedd No.13687062

There's a PC version? how did I miss that?

Is there any difference between the PC version and the original/psp one? (aka localization fuckery?)

Also, OP, if you don't like grinding you're probably not going to enjoy playing grinding incarnate.


e7e9c7 No.13687119

File: 460d1ed68618ea5⋯.png (321.79 KB, 1290x854, 645:427, Disgaea Tips.png)

File: b303bb4b13c8bcc⋯.jpg (1.35 MB, 3156x3116, 789:779, e498af1358b0ae9d051217acbf….jpg)

File: ccf2d13aab088bc⋯.jpg (1.05 MB, 992x1403, 992:1403, ad00d295706ea1b4df43723d59….jpg)

>JRPGs have bad gameplay and are grindy is what many say.

>Play them and realize that most are actually very easy and don't need any sort of grinding. It's that people are just bad at them and have to resort to grinding instead of actually learning from their mistakes and coming up with a good strategy.

There have been times when I had to help someone beat a boss in a RPG and I did so without even knowing their equipment, spells, team composition, or equipment. It's crazy the amount of mistakes people never learn from.

>Only heals when he's low on health instead of keeping everyone at a high amount of HP so a strong AOE spell won't kill everyone.

>Never uses that really good item because "I may need it for that special moment!". Said moment has passed multiple times and they end up never using it and dying.

>Never defends and is then surprised when the boss targets the guy with low health.

>No sense of proper MP management. Just spam their strongest move over and over until they run out of MP and that character is useless or constantly relying on items.

>Don't prioritize buffs and debuffs. The less damage an enemy can dish out, the less time you're healing and the more offensive you can play. A battle of attrition strategy works against most bosses in RPGs so defense is usually better than offense.

>>13687005

You could just pirate the PSP version. It's very easy to emulate.

>>13687013

Now that I think about it. Is it possible to beat Disgaea 5 at LV 1? The cheat shop does make it so you can't gain EXP if you wanted.

>>13684752

I like Trillion but I still think D4 and D5 are much better.

>quitting due to getting supposedly royally fucked by management.

That was some real horse shit.

>NIS makes a new division or department and sends the Disgaea team their. Essentially their most talented devs who've been there for more than a decade.

>NIS heads give them a paycheck as if they're new because they're technically part of a new division which means they're new employees. So they screw over their own devs.

>They demand their old paycheck. NIS refuses. They quit and go to Idea Factory or Compile Heart.

Since then, NIS hasn't made anything ambitious. They projects have all been much more low budget. It's no wonder they don't give a shit what NISA does. It's ran by scumbags.


19885e No.13687170

>>13687062

You're going to get the same shit localization. They didn't fix anything.


92fedd No.13687179

>>13687170

So in other words it wouldn't matter?


a0e986 No.13687422

File: 3cf5c17161bbdef⋯.gif (3.35 MB, 480x270, 16:9, kazuyagrin.gif)

>>13687062

It has more characters and Pleinair is nerfed. No other changes besides graphics I think. What's wrong with Disgaea 1 localization anyway?

>>13687119

>Now that I think about it. Is it possible to beat Disgaea 5 at LV 1? The cheat shop does make it so you can't gain EXP if you wanted.

With all the subclasses maxed a character has 1000+ of each stat at lvl 1 so it wouldn't be hard, especially if you take the stat elixirs for up to +10 million. That, or just give a real, non-reincarnated lvl1 character some LoC gear after going back in time at the pirate guy. If you mean real lvl1, then cheat shop is not available until some later chapter, and everything later would one-shot your characters anyway, especially the Sages with crazy range. Maybe time travel makes them available instantly though.

If it is I can see your "fresh" new level 1 characters farming item worlds of bad item with weak enemies like wrinkly clothes until it'd eventually turn into an item so good, it'd carry you to improve another one to make it faster. You'd have to do that many times though. Then once first chara world opens, going to the lowest difficulty with fully "equipped" characters until they have 300% aptitude each and all the chara goodies, so probably 200~ runs each, Might be better to keep on item worlding, unless you use only one character in which case you'll get some stats each chara world kill besides aptitude or shit you want. Just as efficient, if not more. If the items stop working, you must equip wrinkly clothes and try a world of something better or just keep on getting them wrinklier.

The item world key item you level up in main quest had easy enemies, so it'd be the best target for item worlding. Either way only a full-blown real autist would attempt this shit and I can't see any other way, unless you consider getting bad endings beating Disgaea 5.


fbfe57 No.13687435

File: d2ac62cb36e3917⋯.png (270.09 KB, 750x390, 25:13, grindan game.png)

>>13683318

>I don't want to waste time grinding in RPGs anymore.

>he says as he posts a thread about da grindan game


fb41e3 No.13687439

>>13684165

The speedruns are retarded though, it's just a ton of throwing your characters around.


1f3965 No.13687712

>>13687439

Sounds hilarious.


7b5c81 No.13687770

>>13683318

>I don't want to waste time grinding in RPGs anymore.

then you're looking at the wrong game

>>13684071

>If you had to grind, you suck balls at the game.

I have a ton of experience with jewing various JRPG systems and I still had to grind a lot to finish the Disgaea story.

I don't doubt that speedrunners can do it quick with no exp farming, but even a turbo autist will have farm on their first playthrough.


e7e9c7 No.13687790

File: 3dc52739b402e24⋯.jpg (49.6 KB, 320x320, 1:1, 8239cf79fe34f512c7e43f1d1e….jpg)

>>13687770

A star mage and a few story based characters solve like 90% of problems in the game with sheer brute force though. They can snipe any enemy from far away and you can just slap around anyone with Laharl since he's so damn strong. With someone to buff and heal him (or teach him those spells), he can even solo maps.


fb41e3 No.13689244

>>13687712

Hilarious in a rigorously methodical and excruciatingly well practiced way


047f1d No.13691727

File: c5e799d3f6bf1e3⋯.jpg (119.18 KB, 912x1000, 114:125, sample-fcdb734157175e7d478….jpg)

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File: 40dfb85d343c316⋯.webm (5.58 MB, 320x240, 4:3, Rhapsody PSX Evil Queen.webm)

>>13685558

Yes, but they seemed to completely have given up on her series as a whole. Unless you count Rosen Queen as the thread that connect them all.


6a3691 No.13691947

>>13691727

That song is incredibly good.

I was honestly surprised.


8377e2 No.13691981

i want to stick my dick in etna's butthole


18a640 No.13691987

>>13683318

>I don't want to waste time grinding in RPGs

This is definitely not the game for you


477028 No.13692125

File: e0aec20f5883be9⋯.webm (253.98 KB, 640x360, 16:9, disgaea3grind.webm)

>>13683318

Insane grind has always been Disgaea's selling point. The main game starts after the story. And even when getting to max level of 9999 you can reset it, keep your stats and keep leveling up.


3a160d No.13694749

>>13687119

I hate that Usalia has no porn.


bbaec5 No.13694980

>>13687012

lucky the second thing I did was turn off animations because it's tedious to skip them all

the first was changing scroll orientation


0d7771 No.13695557

Disgaea wasn't grindy until endgame and itme world.


6a3691 No.13700767

File: fba7e876f0c3829⋯.jpg (487.2 KB, 724x1024, 181:256, 7c589603e79c6d3533508f0a18….jpg)

>>13695557

Should I even go to the item world before I'm done with the main story?


e7e9c7 No.13700938

File: e65c3a1d4bf277a⋯.jpg (789.87 KB, 2372x3360, 593:840, 880feefefe8be95ee23f8afac1….jpg)

File: 5b72bec23f14a9a⋯.jpeg (1.63 MB, 2510x3685, 502:737, 5c00e934eae2bf57c35c3c11d….jpeg)

File: ee49cb4c523d3ff⋯.jpg (141.44 KB, 1191x1100, 1191:1100, 4fb016f3803478515a43afe43a….jpg)

Now that the original Disgaea team is gone, does NIS even have the talent to make another Disgaea game? They've innovated the game every time they made a new one. I would imagine a new game would mainly just be reusing old ideas and not adding much new, creative stuff.

>>13694749

There are plenty of characters who don't have enough art in general. Female Archer does get some art though.

>>13700767

No, you don't need to at all. You can steal better equipment constantly with every new map you go into. I would steal so much I would sell a ton of equipment to gain tons of money/HL, upgrade the store multiple times, and then end up with some pretty high tier equipment. Saying that, all the best gear you'll only get from stealing or bonuses.


19885e No.13701251

>>13700938

>Implying NIS has any talent to begin with.


52adf3 No.13701537

>>13700767

If you have problems with the game and haven't unlocked martial training/cave of ordeal maps and don't want to grind main story maps, you can go there. It's a less monotone way to get your characters stronger before you unlock all the better stuff for postgame, if you even care for the postgame, that is.

>>13700938

I think the team was gone 2 years before D5 so it probably was already made by a (mostly) new team?


1fa5c3 No.13701712

File: b3bd9e744f9cb7f⋯.webm (7.6 MB, 480x360, 4:3, 1446866029532.webm)

Can anybody tell me the source of vid related because it sounds so much like Laharl's theme that I got to know what movie this comes from.


52adf3 No.13701942

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13701712

Found it after searching for "soviet sea cartoon" just for u. I see the similarity in la-las myself, but nothing else.




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