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>>13621433

>Lightforged Draenei

But they're already filled with light anyway. So they're… doublelight?

Who cares?

>>13621584

Literally have bright ass disco lights flooding out from them. Just like the uncorrupted version of dreadlords.

Its the last desperate gimmick they have left. The Legion and Demonhunters didn't bring people back. This is the last thing before legacy servers -which they cannot do because the current staff are using tools they didnt write let alone work on vanilla- that people have begged for for years.

They are blowing their final load.

What a putrid artstyle. Are the modelers instructed to make the game look as far from the promotional art as possible?

>>13621783

The last desperate gimick is that the draenei are protoss and the cthulu bugs are zerg. 99% guaranteed that is where they are going next expansion.

>>13621880

Pretty sure Starcraft is even more dead than WoW at this point, so I don't see that drawing anyone in.

>>13621783

Illidan and demon hunters were literally "in case of low subs break glass". When they announced that garbage back in 2015 WoW subscription was sinking to record levels thanks to how Gaylords of Draenor was shit.

>2017

>unironically caring about WoW

I haven't even been very aware of this game since WotLK ended.

>>13621433

Does anyone even give a shit? Just play a private server if you want WoW, what even is the point of playing retail any longer

>>13621433

Yea…sub-races I…never wanted to use at all. What stupid choices. They could have at least added other orc skins, Vrykul, and WoLK Dwarfs from the expansion, but nope. Fuck giving actual fans what they want. Gotta cater to people who don't play WoW.

>>13621939

SC2 is dead after the shitty story-telling and shittier PvP (Protoss and Zerg, or fuck off).

>still no playable ogres

>High Elves still around in the Alliance

>can't play as one

>>13622730

You mean two headed ogres

>>13621433

It's Blizzard, they're going to do it in the worst and most unsatisfying way possible. Even if it was done perfectly it would not be worth coming back to the steaming pile of shit that is neo-WoW

>>13621846

>What a putrid artstyle. Are the modelers instructed to make the game look as far from the promotional art as possible?

>1990s - 2000s

>high quality CGI pre-rendered cutscenes that aside from resolution, hold up roughly well

>in-game graphics are normal to the era

>WoW is 10+ years old

That's how Blizzard has always been.

>>13622909

Gotta cater to that group that doesn't touch your game. It sure as fuck worked for Social Justice Watch.

>>Nightborne – Blood Elf

>first image shows nightborne druid

Fake unless they're adding more race/class combos. Also some of the space around the text on the right looks strange. I'll wait for BlizzCon.

why are people still playing this game

Give me Burning Crusade gameplay with current year graphics.

>>13623366

Sunk cost fallacy, I guess.

I have a lot of good memories in WoW, but it doesn't mean I'll play a shit game.

>adding subraces

>not entirely new races like naga, furbolgs, or even murlocs

>>13623366

I have friends that still play WoW and League of Legends. I think its that phenomenon that after you play a game for a long time, you're conditioned to just play it even if you're not playing with a feeling of excitement or discovery. That's sort of how I also see the Warframe thread.

>>13623525

I had an easier time quitting smoking.

>>13623507

>wanting to play the literal cannon-fodder races

>>13623578

>naga

>cannon-fodder

Come on, anon.

Of all the other races, Naga would make a perfect neutral race as opposed to the gay-ass pandas who have to choose a side

>>13623525

If you learn every little weird mechanic and strategy in a multiplayer game moving to something else is hard because it feels shallow in comparison. Even if ASSFAGGOTS and WoW have no/less depth than any other multiplayer game. Also I say multiplayer because it's hard to find a singleplayer game that takes all your focus and isn't just a grind like an RTS giving the AI infinite resources and sends waves of enemies at you, because they couldn't program real AI, and winning is simply a case of lasting until your army gets bigger.

>>13623682

>Not making friends with total strangers.

>Not watching their lives unravel.

>Not being the last man standing.

>>13623664

That's called knowing more about a game than the other, and basing opinion off of relatively limited knowledge. But yes, I think that also happens.

>>13621783

>YOU THINK YOU WANT LEGACY.SERVERS BUT YOU DONT

>LOOK AWAY AS WE SUE.ANOTHER PRIVATE SERVER WITH THOUSANDS OF ACTIVE USERS

Blizzard really is.the.worst, but even if they did lefacy servers, they would fuck it up in some way, they would keep some of the normalfag friendly shit from post cata, ir would keep the wow.coins.where you can.buy a level 60, or gold with real money.

They cant do.anything right, just play on a private server

>>13624064

This probably. The only thing that maybe worth keeping is updated graphics, but even then some grognards would complain about their classic "authentic 2004 experience".

>>13624064

I tried out a private server for the hell of it. It seems nice at first, but there is something very wrong with it i.e the server staff make deals with Chinese gold farmers. Once this was discovered a giant load of drama erupted because other private server communities wanted to attract other players. I can at least expect Blizzard to be more professional than that.

>>13624127

yeah, blizzard doesn't take bribes from the chink gold farmers, they completely cut out the middle man and will just sell gold to the players directly.

>>13621615

>>13622339

There is no version of WoW that is good. I've been addicted to this shit game for a decade.

The game is fundamentally flawed. Vanilla WoW is unironically one of the worst states the game was ever in as well. I used to shill for that shit pretty hard but once you actually truly experience vanilla end-game you quickly realise what a fucking joke it is.

WoW is objectively a terrible game in every way shape and form. Anyone that defends any aspect of it during any expansion is a complete retard.

>>13623338

no they shouldnt now fuck off to tumblr and jack off to IllidanxMalfurion gay comics

>>13623792

>he got friends from WoW

>getting friends in an MMO past the year 2000

Enjoy your shit "online" friends.

>>13628108

Vanilla had many issues but TBC is where the game shined

>>13626240

you stink of Guild Wars shill

>>13628108

>lumping Tingole the jew with everyone else that played EQ

If you can do that then I can blame everyone under 30 for the kikes and commie garbage now, deal?

>no vrykul

>no tuskar

>no ogres

>no forest trolls

>no naga

>no kobolds

>no gnolls

>fucking rehashed elves, tauren and space jews

explain to me, why do they do everything opposite of what the fans want

>>13628141

You can ask that question for any game that is coming out in the west. The simple answer is that shit's too hard and thin skin makes for weak storytelling.

>>13622957

According to wowpedia she can only use those powers because she absorbed void essence from a CORRUPTED Naru which gives her a "void form" she can activate at will.

>wow characters are getting devil triggers

I last played this game during Cata, what the fuck are subraces?

>>13621783

From what I understand of the excuses they gave for not having vanilla servers is that they did not save the old databases, so they would have to rebalance vanilla from scratch.

>>13628978

Not at the moment, but the best are vanilla elysium.

>>13624127

There are guides and methods and means of creating your own private server. I believe with the means there, you can bump up max level, among other shit. Hell for a private server it would be vastly much more exciting to have enemies spawn near towns and what not.

>>13621783

dying man covered in cum

>>13626240

I never said it wasn't and that doesn't stop a game from being fun with friends or without. Me & a buddy of mine abused high level 80/85 twinks in cata/mop to kill off max levels for months because it was more fun than the end game since stats were so disgustingly broken going far beyond 100% caps often. A game being flawed has little impact on how much fun it could be but yes if you're an addict paying blizzard year after year I could see the problem there.

This might just be for NPCs, keep in mind. No one knows what they're doing with them yet. If it is for subraces and those four are it, you'll have a very unhappy fanbase.

It's more fun trying to second guess what Blizzard will do the keep the corpse shambling along. They've already given out legendaries and lore important weapons out like candy.

>>13629107

All the public repositories are shit and any decent private servers are doing their own implementations, which they refuse to share. Which is why you have this constant cycle of promising servers redoing work to become usable, get popular, shut down, repeat. It's a shame faggots can't get their act together.

>>13623525

They play it for the same reasons, LoLniggers are playing because they bought 30 dollar meme skins.

>>13629416

moar

>>13629416

That is one qt draenei, but it doesn't change the fact that adding them to wow was a mistake.

Maybe it's time to realise the game has run it's course? How old is the game now? 11-12 years old right?

>>13623026

By this point they might as well just peddle porn and join the porn industry because that's all their shit is good for anymore.

Blizzard, doing less than acceptable work about 2 years after it would have been impactful in the slightest.

At this point I just find it fascinating at just how much effort Blizzard is putting in to ruining their product. It has been readily apparent to anyone for years that the game has been dying because none of the development budget is going into making more world content for players to do. Crafting is still a joke, there's nothing to do outside of combat, the in game economy is shit, and social interactions like emotes are still done by slash commands after the UI has recieved about ten redesigns for raids to be less shit.

The only 'new' thing they've ever put in for players to do is Garrisons. A feature scientifically designed to REMOVE as much content from the game as possible. Not even giving players fun things like customization. And of course because raid design is the only thing they know, everything in it was mandatory.

>>13630659

>the Belfs should have been less gay

>the belfs should have hung from trees

Fixed that for you.

>Nagas should have been playable a decade ago.

Hell yes.

>Worgen should have remained aliums too

And unplayable.

>Gnomes are cancer

This is only because the people who play as gnomes do so to piss people off in pvp.

>>13630659

Really the worst part about Draenei are the hooves. Even with everything else they don't look completely retarded but having them prance around like the little satyr from the Hercules movie just makes them impossible to take seriously, which is a real problem considering how important they are to the game's backstory.

Blizzcon in 2 weeks, dont shit your pants. this is literally the first datamined (with the exception of 2 buildings) shit of the next expansion which is still at least a 3/4 year away.

Its still possible for every race to get a subrace and/or a new race getting announced

>>13630848

It's supposed to make them more alien, same with horns and tail. Plus it's the Eredar look.

I think the reason they look goofy isn't the hooves themselves, just the fucked up proportions. They could probably be fixed if they were made more bottom-heavy with bigger legs and hooves. Less satyr, more Diablo.

>>13630926

legion has been out for a bit more than a year now and blizzard already said they want to reduce the time between an expansion and the last raid tier a bit. next raid tier is in approx 3-4 weeks. so a 3/4 year is very reasonable

>>13630926

I'm guessing they travel to a place with 6-8 new zones to defeat several corrupted bosses.

>>13621433

>Subraces

Cool concept that I wanted back in vanilla before I stopped playing because they went the opposite direction of what I would have liked to play. Let me know when they bring back skill trees and start adding racial/factional classes.

>>13630200

yeah, Kronos was at least upfront with how their store mechanics worked. the chinks running elysium tried to pretend they could run a site without a store.

>>13630836

When I see elves all I can see is fire wood.

>>13631034

because that requires actually making new models and animations. easier to just pallete swap.

>>13621433

>playing WoW post Lich King

>not killing yourself

Pick one.

>>13631125

It's like after Final Fantasy 11 everyone just gave up in unison and decided to never even try writing cool elves ever again because they know they wouldn't measure up.

>Adding subraces

>No mention of dark iron dwarves

Why even bother?

>>13631270

Why be obvious when you can continue to act clever by adding obscure bullshit no one asked for and making up new lore instead of resolving old shit as you constantly bleed subscribers?

>>13631270

I think Dwarves make up something like not even 5 percent of the playerbase. This decision was aimed squarely at the ERPers and porn artists.

>>13631124

Yeah, the first half of Cata was kinda fun when everyone was failing hard in the heroics, as if they were hard, but that didn't last. I poked my head into pandatown, but didn't renew after a month it was so bad.

>>13630659

>Belfs and Drenai make a foothold

>Nothing amazing, but enough to start repopulating

>Send out their young back to azeroth to gain experience because it won't chew them up as much as outland will

Metzen should have stuck to making maps, he isn't a competent writer.

WC3 was a perfect storm, since the story itself is cliche as hell

>>13630871

There are no amount of subraces that could make me give a shit. They could have 10 sub races per race and I'd still think they were just being retarded.

Sub-Races are literally the lowest amount of effort they can give. The retexture is something that might be appropriate if it were put out in a patch. The idea that they'll announce this at blizzcon is probably a bet between people in the company of just how insulting they can be to their sub 1 million addicts and not be called out for it.

I can't wait for them to say a lot of work went into doing this to try and justify it being a feature. Oh, so difficult to make a seam in the model fit blizzard, I'm sure you had to even re-do the mesh once or twice. This surely took whole minutes, maybe even a half hour to do.

The game is shit, and they're sprinting away from good game design like they're a horny camp councilor fleeing Jason Voorhees.

>>13631420

The only time WoW is hard is when you play with morons, or Blizzard makes a fight around RNG for artificial difficulty.

Otherwise the game has been challenging at best all the way through.

I quit after beating LK on heroic, then they added in the easy mode for scrubs and washed away any need to continue playing the game.

Never looked back once aside from playing on Nost.

>>13631482

Is anyone other than a token maintenance team even still working on the game?

shitposting aside

what exactly is the point of the subraces?

are they merely aesthetic, or do they have racials of their own?

Alliance

>Dark Iron Dwarves - Northrend Dwarves - Wildhammer Dwarves (lots of tattoos)

>Lepper Gnomes

>Nightborne Elves - High Elves - Void Elves (what?)

>Broken Dranaei - Lightforged Dranaei

>More Feral-looking Worgen

>Blacks, Asians, Latino-looking, brown, etc minorities for humans

Horde

>Highmountain Tauren

>Different tribes of trolls. Zandalari, Zul'farraki, Zul'draki ,snow trolls, etc

>Fatter jewish goblins

Horde doesn't really have much

>>13631492

The real question is if anyone more than the maintenance team is still playing the game.

>>13631517

red orcs, skeleton/more decrepit looking undead, strung out mana addicted blood elves maybe?

>>13621433

how does this prove there are subraces?

>>13631517

Leper Gnomes are horde, the forsaken took them in.

Horde also has:

>Outland Orcs, Moknathal (orc/ogre breed)

>high elf forsaken (there were some high elves turned forsaken in lordaeron, sylvanas is an example for this kinda)

>taunka (northend tauren)

theres also some other tribes with unique skins but they arent really feasible to be released

>>13631640

they are stored in the same folder as playable races

>>13631882

Oh and make it so items like healing potions are expensive and hard to obtain. Maybe player crafting only.

<World of Niggers

Come on, it's the CURRENT YEAR.

>>13631882

>In hard mode crafting, leveling up, and generally doing anything is much more expensive and complicated and requires teamwork.

great, more grinding for the same reward

>>13632376

My bad, I meant give players everything without any grinding or gameplay required. In fact just enable developer console with item spawning and teleportation to any point in the map.

>>13632416

Wow already has enough pointless grinding, a "hard" mode where you need to grind more isn't fun at all.

>>13632458

>reinventing the game and it's focus in a way that's also harder = pointless grinding

You need to be 18+ to post

No wait no you don't, is that why you're here instead of 4chan?

>>13632503

>>13632502

>ignoring the very first part that outright states making things take longer and cost more is somehow not grinding

>>>/reddit/ is over there

>>13632573

Just play a private server with 50x exp and 150x loot if you want instant gratification and don't want to struggle with anything.

>>13632573

Saying that modern wow has any serious grinding is fucking retarded, its become so streamlined they might aswell rename it to Dungeons of Warcraft all you have to do is sit in your capital for a few days at best, go meet some npc's to get some piss easy quests to get legendary lore artifacts and you're fucking ready for endgame, they even give you a way to catch up on endgame crafting without having to backtrack and craft dozens of useless items. The entire game is basically an instant reward button.

>>13632718

And that's why everyone has every class max levelled and decently geared, there is no more investing in your character, no exploration besides flying cause you are bored, no open warfare. Just go queue up and get your reward, I miss when playing the fucking game was the reward.

>>13631882

heres how you fix it:

>downgrade to vanilla WoW(meaning pre-xpacks)

>BWL is a T1 raid, ZG is T1.5(and released with AQ), AQ20 is T1, AQ40 is also T 1.5, naxx is T2, and the loot of all of those places gets redone

>BWL is open at release

>all servers have progressive content release, with maybe a few exceptions

>finish the shen'dralar faction and add more to the revantusk trolls and wildhammer dwarves factions

>karazhan is released in vanilla(as was intended), but as a T2 raid and at the same time as naxxaramas, the loot is redone

>DM tribute is now an all-or-nothing thing; you also get a debuff when you use the suit on kromkrush, causing you to not be able to use it on him again for 2 hours(not removed by death)

>some other maraudon bosses are slightly harder to kill, specifically it makes it not viable to solo them as a level 60 character unless you're in full t2 gear or something

>whip lashers in DM: E no longer drop loot

>all mining and herbalism nodes are randomly placed close to the normal spawn points, or very rarely at them

>black lotuses no longer always spawn at and only from certain herbalism nodes; they can now spawn from any high level herbalism node with a low drop rate

>all quest chains are finished, all existing bugs fixed

given the state of 1.12.x's economy, a lot of gold enters the economy and not nearly enough it leaves it after the first few waves of 60s get their epic mounts; inflation may become a problem by maybe the 6th month of the server's lifespan or earlier

>more gold dumps are added, specifically certain endgame enchants would cost more money because of the added regeant only found from vendors for a one or two digit number of gold, more for ZG and more for naxx enchants

>flasks have an additional reagent that is only found at vendors and costs 25 gold before discounts

>more uses are added for hearts of fire, cores of earth, globes of water, breaths of wind, and ichors of undeath, and for essences of undeath, and for elemental air and water

>NPCs that are controlled by players can no longer tag enemies on their own under any circumstances, do it yourself

>tauren get mace specialization as a racial

>the paladin talent called reckoning is capped at 1 stack, instead of 5

>alterac valley is reverted to its old form, if it wasn't already

>the horde gets archers in their towers in alterac valley

>the horde's base in alterac valley gets some renovations, and it is no longer really easy to cap the towers and both graveyards and reach drek'thar with just a few guys

>you can no longer hike around the bridge to reach the alliance base in alterac valley

>world pvp has more rewards

not sure how to implement that one

>warsong gulch gives slightly less honor, to be on par with the honor/hour gained from alterac valley and arathi basin

>in order to queue for a BG as a group, you must be in a group that has the maximum allowed players for that battleground by itself; you will only be matched against other people who queue as groups if you do so, even if nobody else is doing it

>do not change the design philosiphy going from vanilla WoW to later expansion packs, and never introduce arenas and put flying mounts on a short timer and 3x or more longer cd and dont introduce casualizing stuff

>>13632890

>DM tribute is now an all-or-nothing thing; you also get a debuff when you use the suit on kromkrush, causing you to not be able to use it on him again for 2 hours(not removed by death)

I can kite Komkrush as a hunter and let the party pass by him without the suit. I'll then use a invis pot or my cloaking device to get by him.

>>13632890

>downgrade to vanilla WoW(meaning pre-xpacks)

They can't for two reasons. They seem to have gotten rid of the previous builds, and even if they had them it would be suicide at this point to use them.

>>13628119

>>lumping Tingole the jew with everyone else that played EQ

well, yeah, because tigole and furor were the Luclin-era version of e-celebs in EQ and the EQ devs were dumb enough to fucking listen to them

>>13634788

yeah i have no doubt that the blizzard staff they currently have could no more implement a vanilla server than they could walk on air.

this from their perspective probably gave them a really good incentive to bury private servers, it doesn't look good to their corporate overlord to be outdone at their own game by hobbyist programmers

>>13632890

Problem with flying mounts is that they allow you to basically ignore everything that's below you. With some sort of stamina meter that limits how long the mount can stay airborne and gliding from high places they could be neat.

>>13632382

>liking mountain jews

"lol elves are gay dwarves are so cool xDDDDDDDD" this is the shittiest /tg/ meme ever. Humans/Elves > Goblins > Gnomes > actual shit > > > > > > > Hobbits/Halflings > > > > Mountain Jews

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>corruption

>>13634241

that change is more about preventing hunters from soloing DM N

also id forgotten about invis pots, so I'll add this change

>if captain kromkrush is alive and not subdued(suit), king gordok will yell out for his help every 3 seconds, causing him to run towards your party

>>13644138

>he dislikes the absolutely comfortable and down-to-earth nature of hobbits/halflings

>he doesn't want to curl up with some shortstack qt from the shire and have 24 kids

>he doesn't want to master halfling cuisine and ramble on about genealogies and tend his garden

ur a fag

>>13631882

just play Everquest on Project 1999, or Pantheon when it comes out. WoW is baby tier in comparison

>>13621880

i guarantee that this is the angle they're going for. i mean, didn't they already tie diablo to warcraft?

>>13647507

I appreciate the fact that they want to be comfy all the time, so do I, but they dont do anything, they very rarely contribute to their worlds. Most of the time, when they do something big, it usually feels forced. Of course there are always exceptions to this rule, the reason I like gnomes more than hobbits/halflings is because gnomes actually do shit, they invent, create, and have more of a personality, will always take a gnome over a halfling/hobbit

>>13648032

halflings tend to the world around them and form strong bonds with each other and the people visiting, making friends for life. they also trade quite a lot all over the world. i wouldnt say thats contributing nothing.

Do we have any information on how large the Lightforged's futadicks are?

>>13648225

about as big as a mature elekk's.

>>13648313

Regrettably, I've been unable to ascertain that information. Would it be possible for you to provide it in either standard metric or imperial units?

>>13628978

I find Atlantiss the best, a blizzlike cataserver.

>>13630650

She has cancer obviously.

>>13623507

But then the skeleton crew would need to make new models and animations.

Blizzard has been reusing assets since classic. Expecting them to do anything beyond reskins at this point is expecting too much.

>>13621930

>Gaylords of Draenor

bit unimaginative

what about

gayboreds of gaybore

borebored of gaybore

warboreds of wargay

>>13632416

or instead of rewarding for grinding reward for skill you retard

>>13664477

Of course it's fucking not, retard.

>>13664477

Do you have any idea how retarded it would be for forest trolls to join the horde, even if that was real? Maybe it would've made sense in vanilla but not now.

>>13664909

Im-fucking-plying that would be any less stupid than the blood elves joining a faction that is composed of three races that hate their guts. The feeling is also mutual.

>(((sub-races)))

Why are libcucks so attracted to vidya that has different races, but can't realize racial differences in real life?

tauren and dreani are my 2 least fav races. unless they are making the broken as a playable sub race for dreani i couldnt care less what they get.

Here's to hoping felorcs and forest trolls can be playable.

>>13664909

There are already forest trolls in the horde, that was the entire horde quest story line of the Hinterlands.

>>13624127

Chinks gold farmers made me quit Dalaraan, but there are a lot of great servers without them, PrimalWoW is probably the best WotLK one.

>>13630233

True.

Well, 99% of expansions are shit.

>>13630659

>Blue goat people are fine

No, they are shit. Giving blood elves to the Horde and then slapping on the goatfuckers to the Alliance as a horrible decision.

>>13664731

Why do niggers think taking a photo of your screen makes it look like a legitimate leak? It's far more likely that someone would leak the raw asset when they're testing deployment or something. Do retards really think Blizzard invites people into their offices running unannounced expansion builds and then let them wander around with their smartphones out? What's the fucking logic here?

>>13621783

Haven't the past 3 expansions been Blizzard "blowing their final load"?

I'm waiting for them to go full retard and introduce loot boxes and/or use Diversity as a major selling point for the next expansion.

>>13677834

>shill thread

Gee, I dont know why. May be for the same reason we have weekly wow threads with same image and same text talking about "something new and exiting" or "tell me a cool wow story". Its a mystery with a capital J in it.

>>13630650

crystal treatment

>>13677834

Because personal phones aren't tied into a corporate network in the same way a dev's workstation is, anon. Any halfway competent corporate IT department has a security division whose sole job it is to crucify people that are stupid enough to leak data from their workstations.

But phones are an ever-present risk and can be easily used for this bullshit. Did anyone check the EXIF on that picture? Maybe the leaker was a retard and left it in.

>>13693510

the only good mmo was classic runescape, prove me wrong

>>13623525

I left WoW, the only problem is now, the only games left that I'm interested in are from before 2006.

Literally nothing that's been coming out has looked interesting to me.

>>13629416

moar