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>>2120633

I don't actually like Master & Commander as much I should. I feel like if I did, Humble Harv would still be with us today. Feels bad man.

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>>2120660

>Seriously, the jews secretly controlling society from the shadows for all of history is serious cuck logic, it makes them out to be superhuman political geniuses (not to say there influence in modern times isn't huge).

Jews would have never gone anywhere if it wasn't for traitors. That's the secret to jewish influence. Whites in charge keep letting them get away with their schemes.

>As to proofs of Christianity, the endurance of the Church is a stronger argument than the jews.

This is where you fell apart completely. The church was co-created by traitors. They don't serve the jews, they're in league with them. It's called the Roman Catholic Church for a reason.

>>2120710

> All those regulations about exemption from "public service" are more anti-jewish, they don't allow them to entrench themselves in public infrastructure.

This is beyond delusion. You're able to read how jews were made a protected class and rephrase it to sound like they're being excluded.

>Secondly, prohibition of destroying Jewish synagogues and not allowing people to inflame tensions was about 1) keeping public order and 2) preserving jews as a source of liquid assets. The "power" of jews didn't extend any further than their ability to enforce debts against the roman state (which was nonexistent because only the state has the capacity to collect on debts, hence the many expulsions after rulers decided they didn't want to pay interest on the loans they'd taken).

The cognitive dissonance within you; you're able to admit that jews had liquid assets and even assets at all, able to admit jews had ursury and the ability to enforce debts, then go back and pretend that only the state could collect - then you can contradict yourself and admit rulers decided it was better to expel jews than pay back loans.

Jews would have never been given any of that power if whites weren't making deals with them. This of course set the precedent with the start of the middle ages and jews would rely on this all the way through even up until modern life.

>They treated pagans far harsher because 1) All pagan infrastructure was already attached to the organs of the Roman state, after Christianisation they had no capacity to oppose or collateral to bargain with the state 2) Being the previous state religion they were in direct competition to the state's legitimacy, to allow them to operate was a far greater risk than a tiny minority ethnic religion that didn't evangelize and wasn't open to conversion.

You're able to rationalize this so plainly. That says everything. Why is any of what you said justifiable? Why would you punish the general public for not converting or having not converted to christianity (worshiping a foreign population) and meanwhile prop up a foreign people (jews, the foreign population) to a protected class? Nothing you mentioned even begins to justify that. And that's the point.

>Again, if you think they were "co-rulers" that had anywhere near the power of the actual roman elite you're seriously retarded and think that through their mere presence jews can mind control the idiot goyim. What did these "traitors" have to gain by being "in league" with a tiny minority with no real power beyond the ability to hand out loans (that they didn't have to pay back if they didn't feel like it)?

>with no real power beyond the ability to hand out loans

>the ability to hand out loans

>no real power

Such non-existent power that they had to be expelled, after the damage was already done. You said it yourself but your cognitive dissonance blinds you every step of the way. Also the fact that instituting christianity made jews a protected class -despite how many people try to interpret otherwise- instills the worshiper with the idea that jews are a divinely protected class (chosen people concept).

>And that's leaving aside the idiotic equivocation of the Roman state with the Church.

A state-instituted church that's not one with the state? Wow, I wonder how future governments saw state-instituted churches and if they put clauses in their government charters to prevent such systems. When you read Roman Catholic Church, late Roman history, and Catholic Church history in general, all of that eludes you.

I don't think even jesus would be proud of how deluded you are, but then again he is a jew so he probably does.

>>2120738

>You're actually an idiot, having money doesn't mean the ability to enforce debts you fucking brainlet.

Your words based upon your conflation, not mine.

>King with a standing army and ability to revise the law of the land to his liking: "wow, I really wish I was powerful enough to have people take my money and maybe pay me back", what a fucking moron. Those laws are to protect them from pissed off people lynching them while they were still of use to the state, and then when they were no longer of use they were booted out, such amazing "power".

These are all your presumptions based on your interpretation and false image of the facts. You're trying to argue from that standpoint rather than the information itself. Ironically you'll take that as a quick dismissal of everything you said rather than pointing to how invalid your argument is.

>Those laws unambiguously weakened their position in society, you wonder why jews always trick you when you're so willfully stupid that you can't tell that the official rationalization isn't always the intended purpose?

It clearly didn't. You're also no longer choosing to address the obvious: This set the legal precedent for letting jews have free usage of ursury.

>Jews were already a protected class in Rome (for all the reasons I already spoon fed you),

You didn't though. This is yet another example of your cognitive dissonance. You can only acknowledge jews being a protected class but only on your terms, but you mask it by saying "reasons I already spoon fed you."

>and Christianisation predates all the major expulsions

Oh wow, it would be weird if there were expulsions that predate (((christianity))).

> jews have no special status within Christian theology

Whoa, it would be weird if the basis of the religion relies on their historically revisionsed and plagiarized accounts found iwithin 2 volumes, an old and a new and the new centers around a jew who says he was there to fulfill the laws of the old. Also, what is Zionism? And why is Zionism inherently the core of Christianity?

> It's funny how fedora larpers can always somehow handwave away that jewish power has continuously grown the more that Christianity has receded, hmm…

Ironically while you're trying to point out what's funny you're cracking under pressure. Not only that, but you brought up a fascinating flaw in your arguments. First and foremost, expulsions accelerated under christianity because christianity let the jews into europe. Under your jew-addled brain, the jew inside your mind convinced you that it's the power of christianity that magically makes jews expelled while it distracts you from the question, "How did they get there to begin with? Who (christians) let them in?"

To compound your jewish-addled brain, the jew inside you has distracted you from the obvious point throughout all of this. Because christianity gave jews dominion over ursury, their power accumulated and became vastly useful as industry took over and money became power. So while jews lived alongside europeans throughout the middle ages, when industry took over their money they gained from ursury became everything. Thank you jesus!

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>1) The general public did convert retard

The only thing retarded is you thinking that's a good thing and not seeing how it became an increasingly punishable offense to not convert. Again, the jew in your brain telling you to glance over context.

>2) Paganism is false and no one (even self proclaimed pagans) actually believe it. You show your own liberal programming in thinking that obviously false religions should be treated the same as the true religion. Eliminating false doctrine that is also a threat to public order is totally justified. Their coddling of jews wasn't justified but rather short-term pragmatic.

You want to change the stage to a religious debate rather than pointing out the obvious. It would be easier in your jew-addled mind to debate over religion and the subjectivity involved whereas you fail at even understanding the obvious. The obvious point being that it doesn't matter whether or not paganism is real - which to you the only thing that matters is that it isn't and jewsus loves you- what matters is that the roman politicians became so corrupt that they made backroom deals with jews that led to christianity becoming a state-instituted religion and persecuted those who wouldn't opt-in while uplifting the jews who were involved and profiting. That's the inception of your religion.

>1) The Church predates the conversion of Rome

The church in the form that predates the subversion and corruption of rome was a backroom cult. It effectively did not exist. Now we get to the semantics portion of your struggle so you can continue sidestepping the obvious.

>2) The Church was never synonymous with the Roman State

The Roman Catholic Church.

>3) The Church outlived the Roman state

Fascinating cognitive dissonance

> and so could not be be the state itself

lol

>4) Countries that recognize no state Church are fucking cancerous and that system has massively empowered Jews compared to the historical norm, it makes the exact opposite of your point.

Last time I checked zionism is alive and well whether or not the church is state-instituted. What matters is that you can still subvert a populace based around worshiping jews because you really really love a dead jew. Therefore a state that institutes jew worship is massively influenced by the jews because of inherent zionism.

I haven't been to any Theater in over 10 years.

I always wait 3 months until it gets released on the Small Screen, and I pirate it as soon as possible (with protection).

I'm broke AF, and Netflix sucks in the part of the world I live in.

>>2120757

jewish monetary crimes began long before christians took control of the roman empire

it should be noted that, when christian princes used the jews to make money for them, they were disobeying the church

>what matters is that the roman politicians became so corrupt that they made backroom deals with jews that led to christianity becoming a state-instituted religion and persecuted those who wouldn't opt-in while uplifting the jews who were involved and profiting. That's the inception of your religion.

is there any historical proof of this conspiracy, did you get this from your own imagination

>Last time I checked zionism is alive and well whether or not the church is state-instituted.

zionism was created in the 19th century, it did not exist in antiquity or the middle ages