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▶ No.997144>>997152 >>997157 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

[https://archive.fo/UJCMC] https://www.zdnet.com/article/http-over-quic-to-be-renamed-http3/

>IETF agrees to base the next major iteration of HTTP on Google's QUIC protocol

>This will become the second Google-developed experimental technology to become an official HTTP protocol upgrade after Google's SPDY technology became the base of HTTP/2.

[https://archive.fo/TACI4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-quic-transport/?include_text=1

>5. Connections

>A QUIC connection is a single conversation between two QUIC endpoints

>Once established, a connection may migrate to a different IP or port at either endpoint as described in Section 9.

>9. Connection Migration

>The use of a connection ID allows connections to survive changes to endpoint addresses (that is, IP address and/or port), such as those caused by an endpoint migrating to a new network. This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a new address.

Welcome to no anonymity

▶ No.997145>>997148 >>997157 >>998559

so fucking what just keep using http/1.1 like a sane person

HTTP/1.1 is the last good version of HTTP


▶ No.997148>>997149 >>997157 >>997642

>>997145

inb4 a string of new "security" problems and browsers start putting giant warning flags on HTTP/1.1 scaring the goyim away before blocking them requiring a configuration change to bypass a few months later. a few months after that the browser will just ignore the configuration option like chromium does with self-signed certs


▶ No.997149>>998559

>>997148

and by browsers i mean chrome and firefox because those are the only browsers in existence and what they do the internet must do.


▶ No.997152>>997155

>>997144 (OP)

> Welcome to no anonymity

> It's still just id by ip and port, like it's always been.

I don't like gÖ0glê either, but I don't see anything bad yet.


▶ No.997155>>997156

>>997152

I think OP cited well:

>This section describes the process by which an endpoint migrates to a new address.

It means if you have Dynamic IP, take traveling mobiles, that ID is used to identify the stream.

Properly named "Connection Migration."

I see the benefits and the cons. You should still VPN/proxy your connection regardless.

The point is QoS.


▶ No.997156>>997157

>>997155

if you keep an open connection then obviously you are also keeping other shit

otherwise you will also start a new connection because why not

the fact that it's possible to retain connections doesn't mean everybody will force you to use 1 and only connection forever.

pls don't be dumb.


▶ No.997157

>>997156

>>997144 (OP)

>>997145

>>997148


▶ No.997160>>997302

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So let me get this straight im a brainlit

The migration addition is supposed to keep an open connection and detect when things like your ip address change and route it back through the same connection regardless?

If so, how is that preventing anonymity?

What prevents me from closing the existing http/3 connection and then changing my ip?

All i'm seeing here is more fixes to initial connection problems. That is unless you're completely locked out and that connection isn't easily circumvented which i highly doubt is even possible

The reason i see for this is something like my router decided to change my ip suddenly and i ended up getting that socket connection error on a website i was downloading from.

I guess the idea is that this should fix that sort of thing from happening within http for some reason but i don't understand why that'd break your anonymity.

Actually, the only way i can see this breaking it would be if your using a vpn and for whatever reason the connection stops and you don't have a deadswitch enabled.

I guess that pointed above can be a major issue.

Please explain if i missunderstood.


▶ No.997302

>>997160

>What prevents me from closing the existing http/3 connection and then changing my ip?

Nothing. It just gives you the ability to have ips change without the connection breaking. You can always just close the connection like normal.


▶ No.997326>>997390

Tor Onion Router


▶ No.997390

>>997326

It's not recursive Mr. 133t.

The Onion Router


▶ No.997398>>1003622

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YEAR OF THE GOPHER WEBTOP

NOW


▶ No.997642>>997657 >>1003165

we should literally go back to HTTP 1.0 and HTML as it was 20 years ago, and keep nothing but <video> from HTML5

>>997148

that's what they _WILL_ do. HTTP/HTML is for viewing static documents, not applications. when people get confused and think they can implement a banking application over the web, the result is CSRF,XSS,clickjacking, and whatever new meme vulns kiddos are talking about these days. there will always be new updates to patch these (when they are caused by something inate to the browser or protocols, instead of the website), but there will never be an end to them. they're literally just patching them to look good


▶ No.997657>>998421

>>997642

>no HTTP 1.1

Enjoy your slow as fuck connections. Also

>implying HTTP/2 is actually being used anywhere


▶ No.997659>>997699

...just reset your ID?

god this board is full of fucking retards


▶ No.997699

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>>997659

They're all larpers, anon.

Just roll with the crazy and see how far the tards go.


▶ No.997925

It can't undermine security of Tor or VPN.


▶ No.998421

>>997657

Google, Cloudflare, Nginx, Apache, GitLab.

Just off the top of my head


▶ No.998436>>998441

i dont see the point of designing standards for things nobody uses


▶ No.998441>>998505

>>998436

It is better to standardize on a standard earlier than later so you don't have to support all the weird implementation oddities that are in different people's existing implementations.


▶ No.998505

>>998441

indeed innovation in large scale almost entirely depends on how good the open standards are in specific industry


▶ No.998559>>1003644

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>>997145

Before long, it will be too hard for small-time programmers to implement code that uses basic internet protocols. Then you are stuck trusting third party compiled binaries.

There is no reason to continue mucking up HTTP. None whatsoever. This is an obfuscation maneuver. Reject it entirely.

>>997149

HTML can't last forever.


▶ No.999081

literally just change your connection id retard.


▶ No.999920

>QUIC

Good shit, been advocating for this


▶ No.1003165

>>997642

>banking application

>CSRF,XSS,clickjacking

I don't do online banking and I wouldn't recommend it but everything you named has to do with user content or third party content on the website.

One should think twice before running those flickering ads on one's website or anything one hasn't created by oneself.

I personally think the ability to link things from other servers without even proxying them over (or mirroring them on) one's own server is the biggest problem the web has.


▶ No.1003622>>1003625

>>997398

We seriously need a modern gopher net.


▶ No.1003625>>1003666

>>1003622

What does that mean? Gopher already exists.


▶ No.1003643

>HTTP/2

>HTTP/3

Huh, what are the RFCs for those?


▶ No.1003644>>1003669

>>998559

>HTML can't last forever.

What do you suggest in its place? One UBP (Unified Botnet Protocol) to rule all "modern internets"?


▶ No.1003666>>1003683

>>1003625

>no TLS


▶ No.1003669

>>1003644

JSON.


▶ No.1003683

>>1003666

TLS 1.3 to be strict, dear satan.



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