/tech/ - Technology★

Forking is as easy as "git clone".

You'll have trouble convincing talented programmers to fork over a political issue.

/tech/ sure as hell can't maintain a Linux fork.

>>971991 (OP)

See >>971997

Nobody will listen to us. There will be no fork or alternative.

>>971991 (OP)

>we

*other people but not me

>>971991 (OP)

>Can someone point people that know C in the right direction towards Making OpenBSD Great Again?

Unfortunately, you could be the greatest programmer alive and I don't think Theo would let you take the necessary steps to make OpenBSD a viable desktop system--there are certain things that just don't fit his focus, and that's fine, but it is the way that it is. Furthermore, Theo and the OpenBSD project are just as fallible as any other. I really don't know how the fuck you keep large software projects safe from cancer these days. It seems like it's just a fucking inevitability. You could write a project from the ground up and keep it safe, but as soon as you're dead or gone (which the lunatics out there will try their best to accomplish), it's going to get taken over and ruined.

>>971991 (OP)

I would fork it back in 2.6. Fuck all the new shit that microsoft, google, etc. added to it.

>>972015

You realise you're literally the only person ITT or even in this board who is willing to go through with something like this anymore right? Just accept it.

>>972017

He's not

Kill yourself

>>972018

Nice try OP

>>972004

The problem with Sculpt is the licensing structure, even though its GPL (lets ignore the problems with the GPL for now) Genode Labs still holds the copyright for the code which means they can go and license the codebase to a 3rd party under a propitiatory license (they even advertise this).

HEY COREY! YOU'LL NEVER PASS!

>>972003

>but as soon as you're dead or gone (which the lunatics out there will try their best to accomplish), it's going to get taken over and ruined.

Which is why you only use programs that are continued in the spirit of the original programmer.

>>971991 (OP)

There's plenty of alternative kernel out there such as HURD, it world be great if someone could make HURD works with Wine application.

But before start doing that, how about start working on producing libre hardware such as USB peripherals. Make the godamn driver completely GPL based license. Fuck you niggers, if you don't want botnet then put this shit in your first priority.

>>971991 (OP)

>Can We Fork?

>So, who's got the first fork of 4.19-rc3 into a new kernel project, with the rc4 patches backported?

>Should we have a plan to start porting drivers to another architecture

>Can someone

Listen, Mr. Ideas Man. If you want change, you have to do it. YOU. Not some random other people. If others like the idea they might support you, but the very first step and the biggest amount of ACTUAL WORK is YOURS.

>>972019

Nice try sockpuppet

But how would we even begin?

>>972145

>Ugg: hey Grog, maybe we should hunt mammoth. Then we can have food all winter.

>Grog: No! If you want mammoth, YOU have to do it! YOU! Not rest of us!

>everyone starves and dies

>>972181

Except all of us combined could not pull it off and we starve no matter what.

>>972185

THIS

Nothing can be done about our current situation. No matter what, we all die while our savior is corrupted in front of us. There is nothing we can do about this.

>>972188

How much are you being paid to keep doing this?

>>972189

He gets paid in fisting. Each time he posts he gets to have a muscular faggot's arm shoved elbow-deep up his own scrawny faggot ass.

>>972190

You will never pass. You will lock yourself away in your home and become more and more bitter and delusional as you desperately try to convince yourself that you look like a woman.

Your only friends, and I use that word very lightly, will be fellow castrated men who will also be suffering the same regret and mental anguish over their poorly thought out decision. The entirety of your "friendship" will be mutual reassurance that you didn't make a mistake and discussing how to make other people fuck up as bad as you did so you won't be alone in your misery.

But you will be alone, even around other people.

Always alone in your head, always suspicious of what others really think about you, always knowing the truth that they are only humoring you out of pity. Despised by all, hideous, a freak. Incapable of love, a family, or genuine human connections. Your grip on reality will slowly slip away until, the moment you are forced to confront it, the truth will be such a shock to you, such a painful reminder of what you actually are, that the intrusive thoughts will hijack your every waking moment.

>>972003

Theo's intent is for OpenBSD to remain a research OS. He doesn't want to grow it like Linux did to become a mainstream OS for average users. That's the kind of focus that's necessary to stay in control of your project.

>>972188

Children built OSs in their garage in the 70s, and you can't do anything better nearly 50 years later?

go >>>/back/ where you came from, this is a /tech/ board - clearly you are in the wrong place.

>>972197

>maintaining Linux is the same thing as 200 line hobby shit written on a system that does not even have process isolation or complex drivers

>>972197

I look forward to seeing your Linux successor. It's so easy to make so I expect you to be done in a few years, let us know.

>>972197

I'm pretty sure anyone here can write a simple OS on any of the 8-bit systems from the 70's and 80's. Maybe even on m68k or early x86 computers. But modern hardware is a nightmare. Terry Davis got around the problem by simply sticking to plain old VGA mode (without any GPU support), and other old/simple hardware interfaces. Otherwise his code would have never fit in under 100,000 lines.

>ESR was right

When has that statement ever been true

We don't we start planning instead of talking? I'm at work right now, so I'll make the fork myself if someone doesn't do it by 11PM. But I will warn you, I'm retarded when it comes to git project management. So if someone else isn't a moron about this shit, please say so.

>>972253

I'll make the logo.

>>972259

Stallman was right again.

>>972253

>make the fork

<thinking this will work

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAHAHAHA

>>972262

Nigger, Linux itself was written from scratch by ONE autist.

>>972262

And? So what's going to happen if it fails? Oh no, my online personality will look stupid.

>>972209

Most of your points are invalid because there are open source oses you can reference how they initialize the hardware, and there are plenty of resources for the same. GPU support will in a lot of cases mean disassembly proprietary drivers, and from what I recall, vendors use a bit of profile guided optimization, so I'm sure its a hot mess. Anyway, the real trick to porting to modern x86+avx+etc, is to port it to at least something comparable to an amdk6 then work your way forward from there.

Semi related, is there any useful books or papers on operating system development, and maybe semi-related stuff like vector instructions and shit related to cpu caches?

>>972259

How about calling it, GNO. makes the slogan easy, "Just say GNO"

>>972267

consider GNUicide

>>972269

get GNUtered

>>972275

I think that path leads to international terrorism.

>>972277

They've already suffered some sort of terrorism, it's not like it would be a radical change in the tactics they faced.

>>972264

>one line of code written by me + 10 billion from thousands of people = written from scratch by me

durrrrr

>>972281

They haven't had car bombs, they haven't been gassed, they aren't being actively shot on sight, they or their families aren't being executed and buried in nondescript mass graves, they aren't being kidnapped, their families aren't being kidnapped, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

They haven't suffered anything.

>>972264

And then over the course of the next 20 years it received billions more LOC from thousands of professionals and corporations. Linux is incredibly complicated and maintaining a fork would definitely be a lot of work assuming you actually plan on improving it. Imo the first step to a Linux fork should be to whittle it down to the absolute smallest size possible. Maybe even fork it from the 2.X series and just try to backport as much security and hardware compatability as is reasonable.

>>972267

You're probably looking for "Operating Systems Design And Implementation". It presents theory and practical implementation from Minix.

Currently working through it. Expect results in a couple of years.

fuck linux, its a sinking ship. if linus basically jumped ship from his life long project there is probably a very good reason for you to too. BSD will welcome you in open arms.

>>972339

I'd rather install gnu/hurd

>>972259

>>972267

GNOs Not Oligarchs

>>972015

You're just as useless as the people you're angry at.

If you think they're wrong, refute them. Offer a way to maintain a kernel or convince the key Linux programmers to fork over a political issue.

>>972003

>I really don't know how the fuck you keep large software projects safe from cancer these days.

Create a new software license that forbids use of the software in projects that implement a code of conduct.

>>972259

Alright, GNU it is.

>>972246

He's right about the second amendment.

>>972017

I already shared the tweet from >>971571 everywhere I could. Even if Linus doesn't reverse the decision at least people will know that these CoC pushers are just sociopaths.

>>972181

>maybe we should hunt mammoth. I've made spears and practiced on bears. Who comes with me?

vs

>maybe we should hunt mammoth. Does anyone know how to kill a mammoth? I'll meme for more supporters so you don't have to hunt alone!

>>971997

>/tech/ sure as hell can't maintain a Linux fork.

What if /pol/ joins in?

>>972392

Go ahead and pitch the idea to them.

I'll be content with a Linux GamerGate

>>972392

They don't know shit about tech, unfortunately. Most of them seem to be content with that.

>>972188

It's like the Battle of Berlin all over again. :(

>>972424

The Jews strike another victory in the books. FOSS will never be feasible ever again, and that's a fact.

>>972364

>Create a new software license that forbids use of the software in projects that implement a code of conduct.

That is a good idea. Can any legalfags here offer a simple addition to the BSD 2 clause license that forbids use in pozzed projects?

>>972427

GTFO.

>just move to openBSD lmao

They'll just target Theo and he'll cave eventually. Everyone thought linus was immune to this, now look at him.

>>972454

I'm still thankful for Linus. He put in a good fight. Wonder what they got on him. Theo def has dirt on him somewhere.

>>972431

>>972432

See >>972454

The left wins every fight it's involved in. There is literally no point in fighting.back because we'll just be fucked harder.

>>972454

>They'll just target Theo and he'll cave eventually.

Theo would burn OpenBSD to the ground before he let anyone else take over. When he dies the project will die with him.

Linux out grew Linus and became a multi-billion dollar industry.

OpenBSD is no where near anything that and never it never will be. It's Theo's fork of NetBSD.

>>972311

Then it should be relatively easy to coerce the offenders in to reevaluating their priorities.

>>972458

I guess you're right. I suppose the best option would be for us to surrender while we still have our dignity and hope our victors treat us well.

>>972474

Surrender? No. But picking YET ANOTHER ALREADY COMMIE SYSTEM is retarded.

>>972475

>COMMIE SYSTEM

How is BSD communism? It's basically just do-what-ever libertarianism. Isn't that the GNU fanatics chief gripe with the "cuck" BSD license? There are no rules that keep an Apple from just taking the code and not giving back.

>>972492

>How is BSD communism

https://gizmodo.com/unwanted-simulated-hugs-and-back-rubs-may-now-qualify-a-1823232098

full of SJW

Haiku OS now!

MAKE WINDOWS GREAT AGAIN!

ReactOS is the future.

>>972504

>FreeBSD is all of BSD.

Not going to argue that FreeBSD isn't pozzed. It was one of the 1st to fall. But it is just one of the BSD OS's.

>>972510

ReactOS is nothing more than a meme that will never work. There are no viable alternatives to Linux distros. FUCK EVERYTHING

>>972413

Just as long as we tell e-celeb shitters to fuck off.

>>972504

Fuck and here I thought FreeBSD was still ok and only OpenBSD was shit. I don't see the point of *hugs* but making it verboten is some mixture of evil and retardation.

>>972514

Lmao at that video. Kill me.

>>971991 (OP)

Why do we need to fork it?

Can't we just monitor twitter and get SJWs removed from Linux when they post something that violates CoC?

Second picrel is a total bullshit. Do you even know how genes work? You can have Y chromosome with mutation, so your body won't produce testicles and testosterone. You'll look like a girl, even though you would have Y chromosome. Also X chromosome contains all information needed to create both a girl and a boy, but different factors, for example testosterone/estrogen levels can change how you would look like, and most important, if your brain is going to be more femine or not. Wonder what would you all do, if you was born with brain of opposite sex, than your's body. Isn't that stupid - laughing at ill people? Changing body appearance is the only way for these people not to feel like a shit. It's the CURE for their illnes.

Your little world is falling apart, because you can't call someone a nigger?

This isn't /tech/ anymore, it's just second /pol/ and /g/.

>>972540

stfu nigger

>>972540

> You'll look like a girl, even though you would have Y chromosome

This does not apply to 99% of so called trans people.

>Isn't that stupid - laughing at ill people

Yep. But we don't pretend people with down syndrome are actually perfectly normal and just need to be accepted for all the problems to go away.

>>972540

People get this with their limbs too. We don't cut their fucking arms off.

>>972540

>everyone who doesn't subscribe to my insane beliefs is automatically >>>/pol/

fuck right off back to >>>/reddit/ >>>/tumblr/ or whatever shithole you came from nigger.

>>972510

>>972517

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I hope I am) but didn't ReactOS also sign up to the same fucking creator covenant CoCk?

>>972554

it did.

>>972554

Every idiot here keeps shilling other platforms without 5 seconds of googling to find out if they are already pozzed or not. Hint: 90% are.

>>972554

Incidentally, so did Pale Moon.

Anyone interested can check out the full listing here: https://www.contributor-covenant.org/adopters

>>972557

Correction: It's not a full listing, but it's a fair amount.

>>972557

>Incidentally, so did Pale Moon.

Of course the furfag did.

>>972554

>>972555

>>972556

>>972557

>>972558

>>972559

>>972561

>all this evidence and the autists still won't accept that the trannies fucking won

There is officially no alternative left for us. The left has its hands in literally fucking everything. We are trapped in poz forever.

>>972570

>There is officially no alternative left for us. The left has its hands in literally fucking everything. We are trapped in poz forever.

FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>972570

But, it's still not every project, not even close. You can't say

>literally fucking everything

when it's literally not.

>>972574

Prove me wrong. Linux is pozzed, and so is ReactOS. The tranny is inserting its CoCk into all of tech and there is nothing we can do to stop it.

>>972575

Name 5 viable projects that aren't.

>>972579

You'll just fling shit at whatever I say so why bother?

>>972580

He's been shilling it in several threads with his defeatist attitude, he's a cuck.

>>972555

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>972549

>This does not apply to 99% of so called trans people.

What I mean't is that there are many factors, and it is not just Y or X, but a lot of other genes on different chromosomes and even environmental factors, like what your mother was eating during pregnant. It isn't their choice.

>Yep. But we don't pretend people with down syndrome are actually perfectly normal and just need to be accepted for all the problems to go away.

Down syndrome is a different thing - it makes people think like they were 8 years old, whereas transsexual people have mind of the opposite sex, but their intelectual abilities are the same as "normal" people have.

>>972551

Cuting off arms is unnatural for both sexes, so it is unnatural for human generally, but when trans people have brain's sex opposite to their body's sex it seems unnatural to them, the opposite sex is natural for them. For girl's brain it is natural to have body of a girl, so when person with girl's brain have a masculine body, that's not the mind, that is wrong, but the body. They don't want to change their bodies, because they are masochists, but because they want to look like their brain tells them to.

>>972591

And how long will it take for any of them to be viable? They'll all be pozzed before then.

>>972593

Devuan/Hurd or OpenBSD looks like the best bets.

>>972597

Devuan is still Linux retard.

>>972599

Do you know what HURD is?

>>972555

>those fucking trips

ABANDON SHIP

>>972554

They did. It's an eternal meme.

>>972593

I do not fear the blue hair brigade or the nerd's lack of pussy making them vulnerable to it. I am in fact grateful they exist, because they're reverse coal-mine canaries. They invade and start loudly squarking in mines (or projects) that were already unhealthily full of gas. Not only that but their agenda is so unsubtle and transparent that it makes cancer avoidance much easier. The fact that wintel is the main contributor to the linux kernel, that their agenda is many times murkier than that of a clique of deranged transexuals, and the fact the kernel has already been deemed "too big to fork/audit" by many here are much more of a concern to me.

There are certain cures to these problems I'm worried about. For starters, the mission statement of the OS can provide some immunity. Auditing does not easily smile upon bad code. Secondly, sponsorship arrangements and talent pools coming from places other than wintel would certainly be preferable. Again the BSDs offer this, although their sponsorship arrangements don't seem very well organized or sophisticated.

>>972591

mostly still pozzed

can’ escape it

anything GNU will become pozzed

> Stallman has written about "the social aspects of software and how Free Software can create community and social justice.

> SOCIAL JUSTICE

don’t believe the based jew stallman narrative

>>972599

>>972600

In fairness to both dubs and from what I can gather (on a topic I know little about), hurd is merely a microkernel that can pick and choose which code snippets to grab from others, and with GNU being the way it is it probably means grabbing kernel code exclusively from Linux-libre because they reject the other kinds of licenses.

>>972591

See >>972608

>>972592

And insisting you're a member of the opposite sex isn't natural for either of the sexes.

I've already switched to OpenBSD and it is quite comfy. Those claiming it "isn't viable" are full of shit.

>>972592

Rejecting your innate qualities when they could have provided virtue insults those around you.

Suppose you reject masculinity. It's not just an insult to the men around you who are in essence the thing you're snubbing, but to the women as well who are depending on you for the kind of help which masculinity lends itself easily to. Fires rage and you won't fight them, assailants show up and you won't help the victims. The worst part of it is no matter how hard a victim of this "misgendering" tries, they'll never be a bastion of virtues of the other sex. They'll never be as delicate a flower as the fairer sex. They'll never be as mothering or as attentive try however hard as they often do.

>>972555

>>972554

THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF RETRANNYOS

>>972621

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.U.L.E.

https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Monplaisir/

>if you're brain a shit, then at least refine your craft of making trippy art and don't end up like chrischan

What sucks about Linux is that none of the serious flaws in Linux like C, panic, the OOM killer, the bad driver design, or any of the other problems will ever be fixed. All the people working on it for decades can't fix those problems because it's fundamentally broken.

UNIX weenies believe that their PDP-11 OS and PDP-11 language should be used everywhere. Your desktop, phone, TV, game console, web server, mainframe, supercomputer, "smart" appliances, and every other computer or device with a computer should use an OS designed for multiple users to log into a PDP-11 and type on a teletype and read, write, and seek tape drives.

The fundamental flaw in Linux is the monopolistic mentality inherited from AT&T culture. This is why anything happening to Linux means anything in the first place. If Linux was a microkernel, someone could write a shim and run every single driver and program on a new kernel. They could even rewrite the kernel in another language and use whatever language they want for drivers because the kernel might be 30,000 lines instead of 16 million. The OS wouldn't have to be UNIX-like or depend on C. Software can evolve faster and broken shit like OOM killers and panics can actually be fixed because it's modular. This is closer to how I believe free software should work.

    Actually, the GNU project has much higher coding
    standards than the UNIX kernel.  For example: no fixed
    constants.  Everything must dynamically expand.

    UNIX is terrible.  GNU is trying to make a UNIX that
    isn't terrible, just bad.

Not a good excuse.  Shite painted pink is just pink shite.
Why didn't FSF try to invent a free operating system that
was good?  Answer: their political agenda is 10^6 times more
important to them than good engineering.

>>972554

>>972555

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

;_;7

>>972364

good idea but then it's not free software so you've already alienated all the free software purists and everyone who likes permissive licenses, so all you have left is people who care more about anti-CoC than free software

>>972624

MULE is from before he amputated his dick and so is Seven Cities of Gold. I don't think he made anything else relevant after going nuts.

>Bunten underwent sex reassignment surgery in November 1992 and afterwards kept a lower profile in the games industry. Bunten later regretted having surgery

>>972427

fuck off with your identity politics rms is a jew

>>972644

>all you have left is people who care more about anti-CoC than free software

Who are the only people who care about free software and don't hate you because you aren't a shemale abbo-gypsy.

>>972364

GPLv4? rms doesn't like this CoC shit either, maybe we could get him to consider making a new one, or even a 3.1? Restrictive CoCs clearly violates Free as in Free Speech.

>>972648

>>972647

I don't disagree in principle but a putting that kind of restriction in a license violates the first requirement of free software

>>972648

>>972651

>>972364

Does it have to be a license? Would some other kind of legal device work better in the short term? Like a CDA/NDA that allows for use of the software for any project as long as it doesn't have a CoC?

>>972651

"Free" doesn't matter to them, so why should it to us? Fuck anyone who violates the non-CoC clause honestly.

>>972651

You just need to word it right and it'd be free software. I don't have the image or the license name (it's like "everyone but cis white men license"), but rms said a license that was basically "do whatever you want, even close the code or relicense, unless you're a straight white man then you have to keep the license" was technically free software although he disagreed with it. Make it viral like the GPL and some shit like "also faggots must ship a printed version of the code to anyone who asks without charging for it, and any link to the code must say Heil Hitler", that's perfectly free from my understanding and impossible to follow if you're a faggot.

>Video drivers finally coming together

>Wayland making good progress

>Steam brings games to the platform

>This fucking happens

Liberals need to die.

>>972653

>Like a CDA/NDA that allows for use of the software for any project as long as it doesn't have a CoC?

I'm 99% sure that makes it non-free or non-permissive

>>972654

>"Free" doesn't matter to them, so why should it to us? Fuck anyone who violates the non-CoC clause honestly.

like >>972644 said, good luck getting support from anyone else

>>972656

>unless you're a straight white man then you have to keep the license" was technically free software

i don't know where he said that but i don't understand how a software that's non-free for <identity> could free software

What EXACTLY are mentally ill faggots in womens clothing going to do to the CODE? I get some piece of shit being appointed, 'diversity' whatever at Red Hat and conferences that resemble human centipede but beyond that? All they do is talk stupid shit. Like this 'conduct' garbage. It's meaningless word vomit.

>>972651

Thinking about this gives me a whole new respect for RMS. To sit down and hammer out a set of guidelines truly is the work of a genius.

About your point, CoCs in a way silence free speech, perhaps one could even argue that restrictive CoCs violate the first requirement? I'm not great at this kind of thing, I just want to protect our software from a very serious threat.

>>972653

That might just make you an easier target, plus what >>972662

said.

>>972656

rms is right. What's not right are these people who try and squash free speech. That divides the community, and we know rms does not like that. I wish rms were here, he could probably word something like this.

>>972663

Allow pottering to ram SystemD into the kernel?

>>972662

>i don't understand how a software that's non-free

It isn't. It's free software. If you're from group A, you can remove this license and do whatever. If not, you have to keep it.

>>972662

>good luck getting support from anyone else

Proselytization shouldn't be necessary. Those who would care to support it would do so. "Free software purists" are irrelevant. This is war.

GNU/seL4 when?

>>972663

Third party could use these faggots to inject whatever they want into the codes though because any criticism toward these individuals are consider harassment and could potentially cost you your job/life.

So in the future, even when full blown backdoor are found in opensource projects no one can talk about it because you'll be the next Alex Jones / Terry.

>>972663

>Hunt down any contributor that has ever had any sort of wrongthink and kick them out

>Replace with shit code from diversity hires because it's racist and sexist to be meritocratic

And suddenly, Linux runs at 5 frames per second, if it decides to run at all.

Just because they can't code doesn't mean they won't.

Clone every single github repository to IPFS without a CoC.

>>972629

What's a good alternative to C though? Clojure? JS?

>>972741

HolyC.

>>972742

Isn't that written in C though?

I'd suppose you can write a compiler in any language and write successive compilers in HolyC itself.

Sure we can, how god damn hard could it be to maintain a kernel? If every tootsie pop colored degenerate can be kernel developers, so can I!

After all this supposed doomsday scenario is nothing more than some ephemeral document, the only real issue here is the "post-meritocracy" aspect of it. Code quality is going to rot over time. But it also means people will flock like bees to honey, to viable alternatives.

sorry for the reddit spacing

>>972741

How often do you talk to yourself?

>>972579

OpenDarwin

>>972621

>That's true of kids, who are forced into transgenderism by their leftist parents. Not of adults. If that shit was natural mankind would've seen large numbers of transvestites killing themselves during all our history, yet they only seen to have appeared in any relevant numbers recently. Maybe having brain defects increases the odds, but it's a choice nonetheless.

I've never heard about such a thing. Someone's parents can't just decide about that. Until someone changes their gender, they must be diagnosed by specialists. It's not their choice to feel good, about what gender they were born with, but it's their choice to change their appearance and stop suffering.

>Wrong. Their brain is far closer to a normal brain of their sex than a normal brain of the opposite one.

Wrong, you should read at least Wikipedia, untill you'll say something that you don't know much about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality#Causes,_studies,_and_theories

>[citation needed]. There are faggots with accomplishments, but I've never heard of anything important done by someone after they thought cutting off their cock would be a good course of action.

Speaking of "faggots", Alan Turing who invented computer, was gay. Also I know gays, lesbians, and even a tranny and they are normal people with hobbies, jobs, some of them are working for science. Is that enough, or should I look for more scientific citation for you?

>>972835

>I've never heard about such a thing. Someone's parents can't just decide about that.

Well they do. Parents brainwash their children.

>but their intelectual abilities are

You're right intelectually competent people could NEVER be mentally ill.

>Cuting off arms is unnatural for both sexes,

They feel it strongly.

>but when trans people have brain's sex opposite to their body's

Except they don't. Their brains heavily correlate with their AAB sex .

>but because they want to look like their brain tells them to.

Just like the mentally insane people that want to cut their arms off. You're brain telling you something does not make it GOOD especially in the domain of mental illness like this.

>>972540

>you can have Y chromosome with mutation

This is an illness, the body is not working the way we deem correct, it needs to be cured

>X chromosome contains all information needed to create both a girl and a boy

no

>what would you all do, if you was born with brain of opposite sex

what would you do if you were born a fish? you would be swimming somewhere and not posting here. Why aren't you swimming? This is how ridicolous your argument is

>Isn't that stupid - laughing at ill people?

no

>Changing body appearance is the only way for these people not to feel like a shit

it's the only way the left wants these people not to feel like shit (and they still do). By killing themselves they wouldn't feel like shit either yet you wouldn't recommend this as a cure. Why can't you see them being "cured" with drugs and treatments the same way we treat every other illness?

>Your little world is falling apart, because you can't call someone a nigger?

Because your ideology of equality and feminism and filth doesn't allow it, that's why.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/126126157/ http://archive.is/o86P7 <- this github issue has been *ERASED* to hide evidence

>>972923

>it's the only way the left wants these people not to feel like shit (and they still do). By killing themselves they wouldn't feel like shit either yet you wouldn't recommend this as a cure. Why can't you see them being "cured" with drugs and treatments the same way we treat every other illness?

You can have any treatment you want so long as it's cutting your dick off.

Let's recap:

Cutting off your dick? Legal, and payed for by tax payers in some countries.

Getting Therapy to overcome homosexuality? Illegal. Jail if done.

Getting Therapy to overcome transsexuality? Illegal. Jail if done.

I like how they're allowed to do things that they deem will help them, but if another person says "Hey, I don't want to live my life like this, I want to go get help by any means (Therapy, shock conversion therapy, etc), nope that's illegal! Shouldn't it be their right to get the treatment they want? Isn't that what faggots like Coraline push? Never trust the left.

>>972912

>Won't happen. GPL is a document enforcing the rights of the Code. the rights of the people contributing to it are secondary in scope, at best. How the contributors operate is definitely outside the scope of the GPL.

Fair point. Then perhaps what we need is a GPL CoC of some kind that protects speech. rms is all about free speech.

>>972939

Free speech is not hate speech anon.

>>972944

>legal definition of free speech is the same as how a CoC defines it

okay bud sure thing

>>972835

>I've never heard about such a thing. Someone's parents can't just decide about that. Until someone changes their gender, they must be diagnosed by specialists.

Id be quite interested to see some undercover work done on these specialists.

Take a normal boy to a specialist, and see what crazy disorders they diagnose him with?

>Oh, hes a polytrans planetkin that requires lifelong brain medication?

>Linux

>not using Linux-libre

We already got a Linux fork, and the Windows-NT based OSS operating systems (ReactOS, Haiku) are in alpha.

>>972835

>I've never heard of such a thing

Read up on John Money and David Reimer.

>>972973

Just looked further into it, and it's based on a dead system called BeOS. Still alpha, though.

>>972912

The GitHub is just a mirror. No pull requests are accepted from there.

>>972944

>Hate Speech is free speech in the United States. That probably won't be changing for the next 14 years at least.

Why 14 years?

>>973021

People are already arrested for saying nigger. You're a moron.

>>972944

>Or, if you're a maximum troll, *adopt* the malware CoC, ban everyone from contributing due to retroactive CoC violations, make the project read-only, then fork the codebase under a new name (minus the CoC) with all the old developers jumping ship.

Seems legit.

Don't get derailed by the tranny enabler. It's an attempt to shut down real discussion.

Linux is likely too big to fail. At this point it's going to take a lot more than a shitty code of conduct to collapse it. This will stagnate it and is step 1 to it collapsing but it's not the collapse. It's a good time to start building an alternative and making sure you remove undesirables from day one. The issue being that you need to figure out how to make an alternative and be willing to be ignored for years until Linux finally collapses and you're there to take it's place.

Guys, I'm a Male-to-Chad transsexual. Yes, I'm jealous of all the sex he has.

None of you ever contributed even 1 line of code to kernel. Nobody is gonna fork anything. It amuses me to even see this idea being entertained. Linux gets 10+ contributions per hour. Your fork will be outdated garbage within a day.

>>973133

Thank a you mr dubs man

but I think the consensus generally falls on migrating to BSD

There's also the hurd or haiku but they're in a less finished state than BSD is I think

>>972605

>unhealthily full of gas

Our problems stem from the lack of gas, not excess of it.

>>973133

We need to convince Linus to fork Linux.

>>973138

If you'd practiced immunology earlier then you wouldn't feel it necessary to gas your opponents. Be glad now that you're awoke. The Linux kernel should have fragmented sooner really.

>>973139

Do it on Linux mainline where you'll be welcome

>>973140

He was clearly forced to GTFO under duress. Odds are that he won't. Also out of gas ~ seeing that he's an old man with family commitments.

>>973136

BSD? It's alright but fundamentally different from Linux, which also has more support. I don't know what consensus you think you're basing that decision on. Seriously, most of /tech/ is nothing but a bunch of lusers who complain about what the people who make their software are doing.

Best thing to do is simply carry on like nothing happened. Accept only excellent code, even if you need to sugarcoat your criticism. If you see shit code, fix it.

>>973140

Linus's branch is already a 'fork' in the strictest sense. In fact, it's the only branch of Linux people give a shit about. Any other branches are essentially outdated garbage or things that aren't ready to be merged yet.

It makes no sense for him to fork his own project. If he were to change the way he manages Linux, those changes would simply be reflected on the torvalds branch of Linux. The branch his lieutenants push code to. The lieutenants who get code from the many many subsystem maintainers. Who in turn get code from regular mortals such as you and me.

You really have to port all these people over to a 'fork' of Linux or it simply isn't gonna be relevant. Sorry.

>>973156

Linux and the BSDs aren't very different compared to most of the other OS choices. Much of the same software has been ported to Linux and BSD. They're not identical, but close enough that someone that knows either can manage fine. Anyway, not even all Linux distros are identical. I started with Slackware and found Redhat somewhat confusing, but OpenBSD much simpler.

threadly reminder that linus's daughter is disgusting roastie scum

>>973175

oh god

>>973164

>Linux and the BSDs aren't very different compared to most of the other OS choices

Yes, but Linux and BSDs are fundamentally different from each other. Linux is it's own completely independent thing that provides a stable ABI for user space and that's where it ends. BSD kernel and user space are one and the same, and they all evolve together as one, as if they were all strongly connnected components in a dependency graph.

It's fundamentally different. Linux has a far more diverse ecosystem because you can put literally whatever you want on top of it. This is why I get pissed at anti-systemd faggots and their bitching. Nothing but their own incompetence is stopping them from using other shit or even making their own custom system.

How long before Linux Foundation announces that the Linux kernel now has bookmarking service Pocket integrated into it? Also, those who complain about it are just trolls and toxic people exaggerating the issue because you can simply opt out of it.

>>972966

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kjAiVAzJ_Q

>>973227

You could always get the devs on Linux to move to the HURD

You👏will👏sit👏down👏cisshit👏whiteboi👏while👏the👏queen👏is👏speaking!

>>973227

>>973267

>>973136

>>973125

>>973082

Moving to another OS won't fucking help faggots.

See >>973299 and >>973305

>>973348

You can't control what's running on other boxes on the net, it's always been this way. Moving to non-GNU OSes with non-copyleft licenses gives you a less bloated kernel and the ability to use the code in any way you want.

>>973272

I just might due to my femdom fetish... But not for some fake woman.

>>972629

based

>>972741

Rust

>>973506

>rust

>>>/oven/

>>973508

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/?q=Linux+Kernel

sage negated btw

>>973194

Most of those "choices" are bogus, because the Linux distros enforce systemd, except a couple like Slackware and Gentoo. The others give you the choice to not use systemd in theory, but in practice, many packages depend on it, because the maintainers are pro-systemd.

So at the point, if someone is going to run Slackware or Gentoo, well he's basically competent enough to run OpenBSD or another BSD. Either way is less trouble than dealing with shitty distros that give you the illusion of choice while at the same time doing everything to enforce systemd.

>>973519

Also see >>955547 and the comment he replied to.

Systemd was clearly designed to take over the Linux ecosystem and REDUCE choices by infiltrating itself in everything.

>>973546

What font is that?

>>972662

>but i don't understand how a software that's non-free for <identity> could free software

It was Free for everyone, but only GPL-style copyleft level of "free" for designated groups while mostly BSD for everyone else.

>>972277

good, we need that

>>972741

Ada?

>>974091

Ada for the OS, Pascal for end-user programs. That's my dream.

>the left will always win

being a mentally deluded faggot doesn't protect your skull from a bayonet that is coming in through your eyeball, even if you recited six million cocs at it.

>>974094

Pascal has the marketing baggage of being a forgotten language mostly used for teaching purposes, and ssdly it won't take off. A shame because it shits hard on many newer (and older) and much more popular languages.

We basically need Pascal with another name. So VB.NET, but actually compiling to native, with slightly less bloat and not locked down to a proprietary shitplatform.

>>974232

Man, I remember Linus had a quality rant on how dogshit Pascal is. Aaaand, here we go: https://web.archive.org/web/20130305022050/http://www.kerneltrap.org/node/553/2131

The subject at hand was how gotos are retarded, which went into the infamous piece "Gotos are considered harmful" (written by Dijkstra, but provocatively titled by Niklaus Wirth), which also went into why Niklaus Wirth is a fucking tool and why his language Pascal is an abomination. Quoth Torvalds:

>I was one of the unwashed masses who had to write in "standard Pascal" in my youth. I'm scarred for life.

>>972311

>They haven't had car bombs

do it faggot

>they haven't been gassed

do it faggot

>they aren't being actively shot on sight

do it faggot

>they or their families aren't being executed and buried in nondescript mass graves

do it faggot

>they aren't being kidnapped

do it faggot

>their families aren't being kidnapped

do it faggot

>They haven't suffered anything.

DO IT FAGGOT

>>972644

CoCs are freedom denying.

>>974338

>The subject at hand was how gotos are retarded

Well, to be exact, the subject at hand was some new kernel guy flipping his shit to see a goto in the kernel code and starting an argument on why he believes gotos are the devil and how he believed no one should ever use them. And this, in turn, went into why that's retarded, why Wirth is retarded, and why his language Pascal is similarly retarded.

>>974338

Turbo Pascal had goto, and you could also directly write inline assembly . It was really comfy, especially with that Borland TUI.

>>974338

I used to avoid C++ because of his rants. Now when I've lost all my respect for him, I might as well consider C++/Qt.

Also, Linus said that Pascal didn't have a 'break' statement. I recall it did. But probably I had some late version of Pascal.

>>974338

>Linus makes an offhanded comment about how he hated using Pascal while studying, which makes we shpuld "FUCKING USE C FAGGOTS" for userland programs

We all know Linus can only bear C. While Linus is a really good programmer who has done a lot of good to the software world, we probably shouldn't take into account what he thinks of languages that are not C. Some people just like vanilla ice creams and that's it; if we fancy a chocolate ice cream we wouldn't ask him what he thins about it.

That said, he is commenting on Djikstra's hot opinions unpopular opinion, but all Djisktra has going for him is a basic pathfinding algorithm which doesn't handle convex routes and will probably eat your whole RAM if used for spatial navigation like game dev niggers usually do, and theoretical hot takes that only fly by in academia, and by extension the Pascal designer's parroted opinions on goto and enforcing correctness in the most stupid ways at language level. Goto is just considered harmful because there are usually safer and more specialized constructs that can probably be used for every usecase, but in C's case there is no sane way for error recovery because, well, it's C. Exceptions and try-catch constructs are also batshit insane and not the panacea to gotos, but if the language provided a formal way to write subroutines or macros inside your current routine, using its same stack, you could probably cover a lot of the stuff goto is used for. Arguing in favour of goto instead of this hypothetical construct would be like arguing in favour of using dd for everything rather than cp, just because dd is more low level and can be used for more things.

However, on the topic of Pascal, notice how Linus himself says practical (read: non educational toy languages) Pascals, which is what you would use to write userland programs, actually solve a lot of this shit, so his point on Pascal as a family of languages is more or less moot, and he is just talking about a specific academic version of Pascal, which is not representative of Pascal as a whole.

>>974391

Fuck off cianigger.

Is there any chance CoC will be removed from Linux after the backlash (if there was one)?

>>974433

No.

Some faggot is going to add a hashtag and gate to a word and the bullshit will continue.

>>974430

>in C's case there is no sane way for error recovery because, well, it's C

This is not true.

>>974443

>most c libraries just call abort on a malloc error

retarded

>>974459

Libraries are not definitive of the language itself. Why don't you complain to the authors of those libraries instead of thinking incorrectly that it is a mark on the whole language?

>>974462

>it is a mark on the whole language?

It is a mark on the whole language. There actually is a fucking relationship between the language and the things it encourages. Every language can do fucking everything.

>>971995

Coclesskernel.org when?

>>974503

>Every language can do fucking everything.

You admit you are wrong.

>>974513

>You admit you are wrong.

Wrong.

>>974718

I'm glad we can agree and move forward now.

>>972458

>>972474

>>972188

"the left" is the tip of the iceberg, jew cock or whatever you want to call it. We're dealing with malicious, apolitical. multi-billion dollar companies trying to take control of every relevant piece of software and firmware they can via whatever means necessary. This is not a lost fight, foss has so many options and the massive push for increased bureaucracy will make much of their moves transparent and slow. The worst case scenario is irrelevant end users such as ourselves fucking off to obscure versions of software deemed too small to bother with or too much resistance in the form of forks or outright different projects.

Defeatist cuckold attitudes such as yours are exactly what they're hoping for but will most likely not receive

>>971991 (OP)

THESE LINUX ATHEISTS

THEY USED TO LAUGH AT US

THEY THOUGHT CoC's WERE A JOKE

THEY'RE NOT LAUGHING NOW

>>974725

Wrong.

>>971991 (OP)

we must RECONQUER. the GOAL was to divide!

Start

>>974785

Fuck off Lex

>>972540

Their insides cause them confusion therefore you all should accept their imposition of a social construct based on their insides, or else you're an intolerant hitler individual that isn't getting with the program when no one needs to, ever.

>>972137

Fuck you and your GPL commie, MIT license is the way to go!

>>972171

By making the damn thing more efficient. Rather than supporting a thousand architectures, build something that runs fast on modern hardware, focus on one or two architectures. Treat directories like HURD.

>>972188

If everyone thought like that, there would be no Linux today.

>>972316

>redoing android

>>972540

>This isn't /tech/ anymore, it's just second /pol/ and /g/.

welcome to 2015 newfriend

>>972629

FINALLY, LISPFAGGOT IS THE HERO WE NEED IN THIS TIME OF INCREDIBLY INFLATED FEAR, UNCERTAINTY AND DOUBT

THANKYOU FOR SPREADING THE WORD OF SICP

>>972431

@@@@@

Clause three should read:

Projects and individuals using, modifying, possessing, or in anyway relying on this software code or derivatives must abide by the following conduct code:

1) This is the Code of Conduct, superior to all other conduct codes,

2) Software code quality ALWAYS TRUMPS inclusiveness,

3) Anyone attempting to amend or supercede this conduct code, or suggests amending or superceding this conduct code, shall be instantly and permanently banned from using, modifying, or possessing the software licensed by this instrument, and instantly and permanently banned from all digital and physical spaces where project minds are to meet.

Clause four should read:

Patches submitted to this project are the exclusive property of the original author. Authors reserve the right at all times to revoke their works from the project for any reason, even no reason.

@@@@@

Clause three is the vaccine, clause four is the suicide vest. Clause three is in the spirit of Vox Day's conduct code.

>>973125

NetBSD is also great to learn how a OS works. And its the fastest BSD I think.

>>972629

>C

Language of the quantum field. Best thing since sliced oven baked jew.

>panics

For security, it is ALWAYS best practice for a program entering an undefined state to collect it's state, puke it out into logs, and commit suicide as fast as possible. Software running in undefined states is the CIAniggers' dirty playground!

>>972851

You're absolutely right! That's why we still have Abrahamism, "circumcision," and spanking forced on children today.

>>974955

>entering an undefined state

You're the programmer faggot. Define a state. Panic is unacceptable. How fucking hard is it to return an error.

>>974961

A panic IS the kernel returning an error you dingus! Do you want your kernel continuing to run in undefined states after it breaks you shit for brains?

Take your rust and get out of my chan before I bust out my mega can of WD-40.

>A panic IS the kernel returning an error you dingus

Yeah so is segfault faggot

>ontinuing to run in undefined states

No I want it to handle errors correctly instead of this Pajeet tier shit.

>>972540

>>972592

Stop it already. You can build your mental labyrinths all you want, it wont change that you're kidding yourself. Of course they are ill. Mentally ill. But the cure is not what all the trans-enablers advocate but to sotp them from thinking they're somehow in the wrong body and help them accept themselves as what nature made them. Instead, in modern culture all their insanity is fed even more, doctors and surgeons are literally playing god.

If there is anthing positive about transsexuality, why are they all depressed and washed up and have high suicide rates? Society has become very welcoming to them. But did it help? No. They keep complaining. They actually hate themselves, blame it on the rest of society and mutilaty themselves in the progress. They are dependent on doctors, healthcare and so on - if it wasn't for the relatively rich western societies they would probably unfit to live.

While you may be well meaning that doesn't mean that your ideas applied to a society automatically yields positive outcomes. You miscalculated. And that'd make it much worse for everyone.

>>974968

>Yeah so is segfault faggot

In that context you'd rather look at it as program returning an error to the kernel. Or actually the kernel preventing the program from doing forbidden. But to what does the kernel return its errors? Ultimately everything is top down from the init script and the kernel, there is no where left to run.

>>974985

Segfault seems to be the safest way to handle things, since otherwise you give hackers the opportunity to probe the system and figure out memory layout and start using gadgets and whatnot for their BROP attacks. Segfaults are your friend.

>>974966

>my chan

Plebbit please go

>>974983

Doctors playing god is their job. Any surgery on a mis-functioning organ is unnatural and anyone living on medication is also unnatural. Nature wants them dead. People who use fertility drugs are also unnatural, nature doesn't want them having kids but they still do regardless of whatever risks are involved. Humans fuck around with reality it's what we do, if mentally ill trannies want to go on hormones and have surgeries then whatever, most of them are sterile anyways. I'd rather someone do that then have kids with highly genetically deficient individuals and then curse their offspring and lineage for generations to come. Society seems to be perfectly ok with that

> if it wasn't for the relatively rich western societies they would probably unfit to live.

Along with probably 40% of the American public at this point. I don't even like trannies for the most part but it's their life and frankly their a negligible minority anyways

>>975004

He mean chan like channels, a core part of Rust.

>>972379

what did ESR say about the second amendment?

>>972835

>you should read (((Wikipedia)))

get the fuck >>>/out/ you double nigger

>>974655

>that typical kike ratface

damn i never knew linus was part jewish, everything makes sense now.

>>975020

You know what's also unnatural? Clothes of all forms. Electrically conductive wires. Computer machines.

>>972941

kys

>>972540

>This isn't /tech/ anymore, it's just second /pol/ and /g/.

YOU FOOL! ALL BOARDS ARE /pol/!

>>973166

>I just discovered that 3D is PD

lurk the fuck moar

>>974426

If you avoided C++ out of respect for Torvalds and not because of the strength of his arguments, then get the fuck off of imageboards already because clearly you missed the point of anon culture: that you judge a post by its contents and not its poster.

Test

Guise just got here from /g/, tranny mods are deleting all fucking that's about this, so that's the last straw for me. Pls recommend a good 8ch android client.

/tech/ illiterate here, what OS would be safe to install then? Is PureOS really that safe?

>>975330

https://github.com/AliceCA/Overchan-Android This is listed in F-Droid as Overchan (Fork)

https://github.com/zbbfufu/ImgChan-Android Another Overchan fork

https://github.com/Eilhart/Overchan-Android And another

https://github.com/Mishiranu/Dashchan

https://github.com/Floens/Clover

Not sure which Overchan fork is the best, but as far as I know only the one is in the F-Droid repo

>>972592

>t-tranneis are totally normal, they just have a magic condition that swaps brains out

1) 41% attempt suicide. (1)

2) 51% higher earlier mortality rate due to all the unnatural hormones. (2)

3) 75%-81% with diagnosed personality disorders. (4)(5)

4) Of that, 57% with narcissistic personality disorder. (4)

5) 70-80% reportedly loose the urge over time. (6)

7) 60% reported one or more types of severe child abuse (7)

1. https://archive.is/6Evel

2. http://www.eje-online.org/content/164/4/635.full.pdf

3. https://archive.is/RMNa1

4. https://archive.is/3Rwrm

5. https://archive.is/RMNa1

6. https://archive.is/k9YGX

7. https://archive.is/kG48B

>>975440

The /g/ anon here, clover actually just fucking werked so I'm glad

>>972540

What would I do if I had a woman's body? I don't know, but I would definitely not try to transition. I mean, why the fuck does it even matter? I guess I'd be a tomboy, big deal.

>>975330

>please help me be a phoneposting cuckchanner

You gotta go back pal.

>>974961

>>974966

>kernel continuing to run in undefined states after it breaks

Sounds literally like cancer

>AROS not in the CuC list

>mod.awwyeah

>>975589

>Pajeet can't properly handle an error and think's the only solution is to crash the whole fucking system

Java has really ruined you're brains

>>975751

If you can handle the error then handle it. If you can't handle the error, than panic. Kernel devs always try to eliminate panics, but not at the expense of the integrity of the system

>>975763

>You wrote such shit code that it develops unrecoverable errors as part of normal activity

nice one pajeet.

>>974955

>>974961

>>974966

>>974968

>>975589

>undefined states

That's pure FUD. Nobody but C weenies is advocating ignoring error checking and running software in undefined states. If you are capable of calling a panic, you can handle the error correctly with no undefined state or crash. Crashing should only happen for unrecoverable hardware failures, but mainframes can even work around malfunctioning hardware like CPUs and disks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability,_availability_and_serviceability

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fault-tolerant_computer_system

Subject: Think how much faster and more efficiently this
   smaller program is able to trash the filesystem compared
   to a bloated AI-weenie one (which would all its time
   checking for uninitialised variables, doing bounds
   checking, allocating and freeing storage, actually caring
   about exceptional cases, signalling errors, etc.)


Sender: MY

From: KB
Newsgroups: comp.bugs.4bsd.ucb-fixes
Subject: V1.92 (4.3BSD-Reno fsck fix)
Date: 14 Dec 90 00:10:24 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Subject: 4.3BSD-Reno fsck fix


Description:
	There is an uninitialized variable in the version of fsck(8)
	distributed with 4.3BSD-Reno which can cause fsck to destroy
	the file system instead of repair it.  Note, this problem is
	ONLY found in 4.3BSD-Reno systems.

Fix:
	Apply the following patch:

[...]

>>975785

Let's tell stories about our last kernel panic! I'll start:

...

oh wait

>>971991 (OP)

use linux-libre or debian or deblobbed gentoo or literally anything at least once removed from the base kernel you alarmist faggots

>>975214

THE WORLD IS /POL/

Use the grsecurity fork that's being maintained.

Linux without pax-grsecurity is trash.

Spender was right about everything*

Just like ESR.

*(except for his "no I didn't violate the GPL... when I violated the GPL by adding contrary additional terms last year :P" publicly stated by lawyer "belief").

https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/wiki

https://github.com/minipli/linux-unofficial_grsec/tree/linux-4.9.x-unofficial_grsec

>>972422

In my experience /pol/ is actually more tech literate than this place. Here there are too many fan boys who are only good for installing linux and doing a little ricing. /pol/ has a lot more people who are actually active in industry.

That being said, I don't think there will be enough manpower from /pol/ to maintain the fork.

>>972196

so basically he's saying he can't delegate

sad

>>982916

It's the only one worth using.

Is it ironic that 1 year after the best version of linux "ends" that linus' control of linux ends?

>>982433

Why don't we just pool all our money together and buy grsecurity, and force them to release their patches?

Then we can go back to using hardened Gentoo with a hardened kernel.

>>982920

Sorry, the company that makes it is called Open Source Security, Inc.

>>982916

>Techies have a licensing fight, arguing for months (years?).

>Linus adds his "take"

>LOL that patch suuuucks, no good, spender be retahded!!111

>Techies pause and wonder ?WTF... the reason we are having this copyright argument is because this patch is good and we don't want to lose it, does Linus know what he's talking about anymore?

>>982920

They are violating the linux licensing allready terms by adding their "you can't redistribute or we keep your money" agreement between the licensee (them) and the sub-licensee (buyers).

I don't think you can force them to do anything: they don't care about American copyrights, and linus and the linux community has pissed them off so much they decided to just make money one way or another rather than help opensource anymore.

>>982926

That's why we buy them. Then they can make money without being scummy.

>>982923

>>982920

The best you could do is help code the unofficial fork, we aren't getting spender nor pax team back, unless they see linus quitting and caving as an opportunity to make a fork of the linux kernel and become the new kings of linux.

Theirs is the most "hacker friendly" version of linux (like linux used to be), while today's linux is completely corporate controlled.

It's the only one you should use.

Perhaps you could beg them to help with the unofficial community version because we all stoopid. (Maybe tell them we don't care about the spectre bug: we're resigned to the fact it is a CPU bug, and "fixing" it gives us 1fps on our gaymes, so we'd rather not that poison pill anyway)

>>982924

That shit really made me think, but not too much because linus has said before he doesn't care about security.

>>982926

Someone should hax them and steal the source like happend to VMX.

>>982930

>Maybe tell them we don't care about the spectre bug

Sounds like it should be a build option.

>>982928

Then they would be bending the knee to American copyright, PaxTeam is an eastern european guy, he just doesn't care about that crap: infact surely he is happy American faggots are angry. Also linus libeled their code.

Their code _is_ good. Linus is the moron here. Spender and PaxTeam know how the various chipsets actually operate. Linus knows how C imagines it operates.

I don't know, it would take some convincing. Now is an inflection point, they could become the new kings of (traditional, hacker, linux), if they'd come back to opensource.

But why would they? Who's going to enforce US copyright in prague?

Anyone who tried would get their legs sawn off slowly, right?

PaxTeam probably wears the track suits 24/7, vodka 25/8

>>982931

>Someone should hax them and steal the source like happend to VMX.

I imagine that would be an amicable solution to all sides.

PaxTeam doesn't bend to USA "bullshit", the Hacker OS gets the lifeblood it needs.

Perhaps PaxTeam and Spender could contribute to the community linux fork under assumed names such as

CnkGrnz and ErqArc(f)

(A brutal chechen torturer with the rank of Major, and a algorithmic genius.)

>>982931

>>982928

Go talk to them on their IRC (please);

the seat is vacant, now is the time to act. They can take it if they wish.

This inflection point won't last for long.

Time is of the essence.

>>971991 (OP)

Technically, the kernel's already been forked twice: linux-4.9.x-unofficial_grsec and linux-libre. The former is in desperate need of an upgraded, but the latter is 100% Free/Libre and is on-par with the mainline.

>>982936

Tell them to what? Try to BTFO linux? What can talking to them do? Devs don't do this shit, autistic anons do. Would be better to shill /r/linux or /g/ and other such places where people who actually use a kernel that didn't come with their distro post. Not that I don't want to help, I just don't see what you mean.

use libre kernels

problem solved

>>982975

>Some strange new contract is invoked in your hobby (even named as a contract: Contributor Covenant)

>You now fear that you may be liable for unspecified damages under contract law, or at-least a suit to "enforce" - ruining your finances to defend against.

>You understand that further contributions to the project is acceptance of the contract by volitional act.

>No effect

>>982938

That the chair is empty and to take the seat that is free for the taking.

Spender and Pax are well aquainted with the whole of the kernel.

They could be the new rulers if they wished, many would follow their fork. It would be like old times, when linux was rising.

GRSecurity still had that spirit until 2 years ago when they started to try to go commercial. Linux mainline lost that spirit 10 years ago.

>>982937

The grsec one is better.

Unofficial Grsecurity ftw

>>982982

cool, hit me up when that actually happens

pro tip: it wont

>>984382

Intelligence isn't mental fortitude; otherwise, "intellectuals" and "intelligence people" would mean the same. In fact, being a weakling is a prerequisite for being a faggot.

>>983746

>cool, hit me up when that actually happens

>

>pro tip: it wont

Why, because you're an attorney?

Because, if not, no one will need a faggot lay person like yourself when under lawfare... and they won't "hit you up".

Do you understand that, piece of shit?

>>975197

Eric SS Raymond was right again

>>973546

>childless women

They end up suffering. There's a clock that's turned on at roughly 40 years old. If she is family (husband, children, etc)less by then, suddenly she becomes despondent, depressive, cranky, etc.

>>972458

Complete and utter lies, you shill. There are terrible punishments for treason and betrayal such as this.

>>972427

Why are FLOSS projects flourishing, then?

Your filthy campaign is uncalled for. Stop your shilling.

>>972188

Useless defeatism. Ask yourself this question: *why did you come here?* The answer may surprise you.

>>972188

BTW, stop attempted brainwashing, caused by shilling and such.

>>982398>>982398

upvote

>>984507

He never responded.

>>972660

>Video drivers finally coming together

>Wayland making good progress

>Steam brings games to the platform

>This fucking happens

>Liberals need to die.

I know. 2019 was going to be the Year of the Linux Desktop, too...

How is the community/unofficial fork of grsecurity? Anyone use it?

I think I found out what caused this.

https://blogs.vmware.com/opensource/2018/09/20/open-source-diversity-and-inclusion/

>>971991 (OP)

Stallman will save you. Stallman will save us all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre

>>971991 (OP)

He was indeed right. Now the TAB is going to be assisted by a "neutral third party", it's only a matter of time before "professional diversity and inclusion consultants" get into the mix too.

The patch in question: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181020135000.GC32218@kroah.com/

The additions:

>+The initial Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer members of

>+the Technical Advisory Board (TAB), as well as a professional mediator

>+acting as a neutral third party.

>[...]

>+If you are uncertain about approaching the

>+TAB or any other maintainers, please reach out to our conflict mediator,

>+Mishi Choudhary <mishi@linux.com>.

I hope that Linus says something about this during monday (at the kernel maintainers' summit), just to know *why* (out of morbid curiosity) if not for anything else.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/10/25/287

More discussion

ESR and Eben Moglen get into a debate in the email thread.

It's been more than a month, where's /tech/'s fork?

>>990989

Who the fuck is this crazy fucking nutter randomly inserting a pedo rant. God fucking damn the whole anti-CoC thing looks taint for association with him. Fucking hell. Of all the fucking people it had to be a nutter who would be deemed crazy even by nu/pol/'s standards.

>>991068

>MikeeUSA

Call him by his real name: Gregory Smith.