/tech/ - Technology★

I need a flex cable for my x200, what should I get?

A used one or a new chink?

>>853408

I don't see any issues with getting a original used one.

>>853415

the price

>>853408

Depending on your model, one of these:

CCFL-backlight LCD cable assembly with Bluetooth connector, with camera connector 44C9909

LED-backlight LCD cable assembly with Bluetooth connector, with camera connector 44C9991

LCD cable assembly with Bluetooth connector (slim lid for 1440x900 LCD, no camera) 44C9919 or 63Y2213

Prices starting from $10.

Fuck yes, soon(tm) my X31 will have Bluetooth thanks to a seller who accepted my 3$ best offer on eBay.

Not that it makes it any more useful though. Overclocking the GPU did make a difference however, I went from 40 to 55 FPS in Deus Ex's Training level with the Radeon GPU set at 200/200 core/mem.

Libreboot X220 when?

>>853472

>chiclet

>cheap plastic instead of magnesium

>botnet battery

a'right

>>853472

>coreboot

>not an ARM chromebook

>chiclet keys

>11 inch

wow it's fucking nothing

>>853473

>botnet battery

wait what?

>>853473

>>853474

>chiclet

REEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee

you guys are right.

>cheap plastic instead of magnesium

you should feel this thing it's durable af, I bricked mine so I just use is bludgeon my rivals.

>not an ARM chromebook

I use openbsd, so if I want to coreboot it needs to be 64bit, and the arm support is really spotty atm.

>11 inch

I don't understand why this is a problem.

still moderately neat at least I think though.

>have T400 with Core2Duo @ 3,06GHz

>enter spectre & co

>it's said that older CPUs will be most affected by patches

How fucked am I? Which updates shall I defer to keep my system just werking fast like it is? I'm on Ubuntu..

>>853481

Don't cuck yourself anon. Compute smarter don't open yourself to exploits.

>>853472

lol botnet battery no thanks

>>853523

e

wtf is that supposed to mean?

>>853474

>wait what?

I thought it had irremovable battery as the Ideapads.

Not the case here though.

>>853525

Stands for e as in electronic-garbage.

>>853530

oh ok

usually when anons say botnet, they mean it's got surveillance shit. I thought you were saying that thinkpad batteries were spying on people.

>>853472

Cheaper than an x220 but safer? Also lesser keyboard would be an issue. Would any anon use this as a viable machine?

>>853543

why safer? it's also affected by meltdown and spectre

>>853529

For example your unity or gnome on ubuntu just eats up resources, try something else. Look through your extensions in your browser, are their any which have more efficient alternatives adblock -> ublock, are their any extra addons you can get that improve efficiency like dectraleyes, are there any applications which you move to cli alternatives like youtube searching and viewing, are their any entire applications with more lightweight alternatives like using mpv instead of vlc or vi instead of liboffice

>>853545

anon is either referring to indestructible milspec or coreboot not sure which.

>>853546

I'm not him. I already do a lot of those things. Just thought that by "Compute smarter don't open yourself to exploits." you meant not using x86 in the first place or something.

...although to be fair that's probably a good idea.

WE NEED THE RISC-V

>>853551

don't forget the clit

i'll accept it as a thinkpad, better than the xx40 series and later

>>853556

>cheap as dirt

lolno, not in Yurop.

>>853557

>Yurop

What if I told you

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X131e-Chromebook-Intel-1-5GHz-16GB-4GB-RAM-SSD-No-Battery/282584859687?epid=18011374718&hash=item41cb5ec427:g:FKcAAOSw8vdZdhjN

free international shipping.

>>853559

>1.5GHz

wew

>>853539

>they mean it's got surveillance shit

It is, you faggot.

There wouldn't be any other reason to have irremovable batteries, if they weren't to keep devices constantly powered to spying reasons.

Even RMS speculated on this.

>>853573

Oh my bad, I saw free shipping and international and assumed it meant free international shipping, not shipping anywhere and free for you.

>>853545

Sorry my fellow anon; poor wording on my part. The OP made a claim that it was a safe laptop(Coreboot pre-installed, etc.) to use and I was trying to ascertain whether or not such a claim was true.

>>853559

>>853573

>>853576

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=x131e&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Yah EU prices aren't as good not horrible though.

Will a X200 heatsink work with my X60?

My WankPad x200 arrived today. It's in great condition and was cheap as hell (no battery or hdd though). Next step(s) are setting up libreboot and installing Gentoo Hardened (I'll have to use gentoo-sources though)

Well lads, what do I do, now that I have 2 thinkpads.

>>853829

Try to breed them.

>>853832

When will eventually society collapse, you will be able to use the spare Thinkpads to cast some new ones.

>>853824

>cuckentoo

>no package signing

>"""hardened"""

The only hardened thing would be a dick of random CIA nigger who stumbles upon a repo you download your ebuilds from.

>>853824

>libreboot

>Gentoo Hardened

What's the point of libreboot if you still use a bloated-kernel?

>>853829

I've got one of mine set up as a simple home server with built in UPS. ))

>>853829

Go nuts with obscure OS'es on them. I tried Win2k on my T22 last night. I couldn't get WPA2 working so i''m thinking of wiping it and installing AntiX.

>>853546

trolling by saying computer smarter.

>not knowing what a computer is

>subverting the argument by throwing out random process names

Do you work at Twitter?

>>853843

I mean most people here aren't going to be compiling their own kernel so

>>853573

You don't get it.

>>853801

Not sure, but I doubt. The two heatsinks seem to have different dimensions.

>>853857

What?

>>853905

That's not the x131e anon, pretty sure this guy here is having a stroke.

>>853919

Damn i'm jelly, there's a 765D I want but I don't have a car or a license.

Has anyone got experience with the ThinkPad 770? to be honest I would love one because it has got USB, the Bento Box design, and has Pentium III upgrade capability.

>>853956

Phone post. My 600e has one USB port. The 600x has PIII natively.

>>853852

Antix seems like a better Devuan, is there any way to just install the base system (like a debian net install)?

>>853556

>milspec

That means nothing, what's its IP rating?

>>854024

Spill resistant keyboard, that's it.

Get a Toughbook if you want IP rating.

>>853973

I actually ment that the 770 can take a PIII as a upgrade.

Found a Thinkpad T420 for $170. Go or no?

>16GiB RAM

>i5

>>853472

>>853556

>>854024

>milspec

Fun fact, no consumer product runs through the actual MIL-STD tests, and not one is certified. They all either go through tests that are designed to imitate the real tests, which can be bent to the OEMs will, or are even just "designed to pass the tests". It's complete horseshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIL-STD-810#Applicability_to_%22ruggedized%22_consumer_products

>>854051

Not bad I suppose, install Coreboot and a i5 3632QM and you have a very nice laptop.

I should kms tbh

>X31 palmrest cracked

>T23 palmrest cracked

>T22 palmrest cracked

Did IBM fuck up so badly with the plastics on ThinkPads somehow?

>>854345

My x200's palm-rest corner chipped too.

Maybe it's just because the plastics are now getting quite old...

>>854352

Mine has never ran hot. You should probably be sure the heatsink is properly cleaned and the thermal compound not dry.

>>854588

This. If you want to go nuts, lapping the heatsink and using Kryonaut as paste is about as good as it gets.

>>853550

we need risc architecture so i can hack into the mainframes

>>853858

what is this troll?

>>854708

no need for risc, just make an aws account and gain privilege through spectre

A coworker asked me to fix her old T60 thinkpad (just a dead battery freezing the entire system after boot) and now she barely wants it back. Anything fun I could do with it?

>>854765

> Anything fun I could do with it?

Install Gentoo and give it back to her.

>>854765

libreboot or coreboot if intel.

Holy fuck I hate eBay so much.

>buy palmrest for T22

>comes in mail

>lever for screen turn off is missing

Should I rape the seller's rating even if he fully refunds me?

>>855226

No, just give him a neutral feedback and specify what was missing, so that it will be useful for everyone.

>>855228

Dad and I managed to reattach the lever from my old palmrest to the new one. I'm still going to ask a refund because fuck you I paid for a fully working palmrest and not one with a missing lever.

I think my T22's motherboard is dying, getting very weird crashes the past half hour.

>>855391

>motherboard is dying

Horrible. So scared of this happening to my machines.

>2018 + *

>all new hardware is cucked/backdoored

>everyday another good old machine dies

>the supply dwindles and eventually there is nothing left but shit

It's pretty much pointless to even care about computers if they are all cucked. What are we going to do about this?

Any tips on helping computers to live a long life?

>>855447

everyone shits on the new boards but they feel fine.

the problem is they made them with a terrible layout to the point that I would call what they did to be an anti-feature compared to the old ones.

that being said, you can swap it out.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

the guy who bought the t43 here again

im ordering some blank dvd's to install Os/2 on it.

It'll be fun since I never used OS/2 anything outside of a Vm. Only problem is that there are no wireless card drivers. (Mine has the Intel PRO/Wireless 2519ABG (802.11a/b/g)).

>>855570

scratch that, apperently OS/2 Warp uses the same NDIS standard that windows does (or something to that affect) and so it'll work.

Pretty great!

>>855461

xx30 series are also the last of the mainline thinkpads which can be corebooted.

Am I supposed to use me_cleaner before or after flashing coreboot? on a T420.

>>854588

It was between 35C and 40C and I was playing bideo games, it usually sits around 50ish for most games but it was poking 65-70 that day.

Anyone know if the computrace functions on a new lappy are truly permanently disabled? I've read on the original Chinese manufacturing blueprints that they burn a fuse but I'm wary.

>>853566

Are you retarded it's just a cost saver. Instead of engineering a whole latch and connector design for a removable battery they just throw a lipo cell in it and glue it down. Yeah it could be used for botnet but that's probably not the reason in this case.

>>857051

GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

i bricked my fresh t60 with intel gpu flashing coreboot with bootsplash. anyone know the procedure to reflash it it with a proper image? now its just powering on, no beeps or anything and phoenix recovery doesnt really do anything. I was ready for comfy clicking and now its a brick

>>857433

flash libreboot dumbass

>>853406 (OP)

Received my t430

Libreboot or coreboot?

>>857478

T430 is post core2duo afaik, so no Libreboot for you buddy

>>857435

Unsopported screen, im afraid. Or have all screens become compatible with libreboot lately?

>>857487

I would doubt that. I am sorry for your loss.

Then hardware-flashing it is - will report back with pics and experience fugg. will have to build a bunch of roms off of this https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/ThinkPad-T60p general procedure + some variants of coreboot and see what happens. already got the stupid soic-8 clip and a pi so it should be doable

I have finally done it though.

>T22

>Windows 2000

>WLAN working

>WPA2 encryption enabled

Now I can comfortabilty shitpost about ThinkPads, Toughbooks, Latitudes and Tecras/Porteges on IRC

>>853472

<Not any lighter than an X220/X230

<Cheaper materials everywhere possible

<not much cheaper

X230's originally went for 3-4× the MSRP of the X131e, but now I can find them on my local classifieds for 200CAD. The X131e's are still 150CAD near me.

They're cheap pieces of shit that aren't really that cheap anymore. An X230is better mechanically and electronically in almost every way with a negligible price difference.

>mfw can only find x220/x230 at shitty prices here

>x220t and x230t are actually cheaper

Guess people dislike the stranguer shape/bigger size form factor.

How is the IPS screen on the x230t?

Someone is asking $175 for one with

8GB DDR3 SDRAM

250SSD msata

320HDD 2.5in

i5-3320M 2.6GHz

Judging from the photos, it seems to be in excellent condition besides a barely noticeable crack in the palmrest (might not have seen it without the seller mentioning it in the first place).

>>857433

sameish thing happened to me once, not entirely sure how I fixed it but it had something to do w/ fully discharging it w/o the regular battery or the cmos and then plugging both batteries back in and booting.

>>857688

that sounds like a pretty decent deal, I knew a guy w/ an x230t and he loved it.

>>854056

Technically true, but you can find certain thinkpad/toughbook models that the military uses, so they clearly pass MIL-STD-810 to the US military's satisfaction.

>>855422

Shit wears out, new computers do it faster because of thinner layers of silicon. It's sad, but it happens. Keep them cool, and in 30-40% RH, and hope for the best. My core2 era celeron desktop started having strange bus problems after 7 years of shitposting. USB and PCI got flaky, and the floppy interface completely stopped working. Thankfully PCIe was fine, so it lives on as my fileserver. part of it may have been the cheap PSU that had also suffered 7 years of cat hair and shitposting

>>855754

Drives flake out with no smart errors in about 20% of cases t. sysadmin. Also just because smart overall health reports ok doesn't mean anything. Look at smart values 5, 196, and 197. >200 reallocated sectors (5) is a good indicator that the disk surface is giving out. Same for >100 current pending sectors/offline uncorrectable (196 & 197, usually the exact same count). Those are your primary failure indicators, also if there's spin retries (high buzz routines for SAS) the drive is a time bomb.

>>857688

I paid $200 for my x220, so I'd call that a good deal

>>857923

Not the HDD, it's the board.

I think it must be the MAX power IC failing.

>>857948

Power circuitry has a tendency to cook itself, especially in laptops where it's rarely cooled well

You might want to check the caps, they may be dried out

>>857971

tpfancontrol did say something called PWR is cooking at 210F, is this normal?

>>857948

Yeah it's the board, it shut down during Windows Update and now it doesn't boot at all anymore.

I guess this means the end after 17 years of hard work, first by a IT company and in 2015 by me.

>>858191

I did manage to get UDMA5 working on my T23 though!

>>858108

That's like 90-something celcius, so that's high, but not unusual.

>>857051

It can reduces the cost, make it obselete more quickly AND spy on people at the same time.

That's like a WIN WIN WIN.

>>858335

External batteries are no less of a botnet, each has unique serial number, runs proprietary firmware and writes cycles. Plus it wastes more material upon production. A built-in li-po with physical switch would be perfect for a modern computer.

>>858333

>celcius

>>853858

<muh reddit

some tech boards aren't that bad. Don't be autistic

>>858566

>365

>tough

Far from it, you'd want a 7xx or a Toughbook if you want tough.

my T22 came back to life though! No idea why, but I think it must be related to A. the power circuit, or B. the fact that I removed the Intel 2200BG network card that was in it and left the laptop with the battery out overnight.

>>858564

**I can confirm this. the ThinkPad subreddit is actually pretty damn interesting.

Reddit itself is cancer, however.**

>>858785

Fucked up with the tags, oh well.

>>857923

>Shit wears out

It is inevitable that we will have no other option but modern, botnet trash in a few short years. Maybe some fags will create an alternative, but I don't have much hope. Goodbye computers, it was nice while it lasted.

>>858832

*by the way the part you're supposed to be looking at is the righthand scrollbar, and how small it is

I installed KDE too but that's a different story

>>858837

you are not supposed to use the scrollbar but to swipe with your fingers

What's the difference between libreboot and coreboot and why might I try to get a really old model just to install libreboot on it?

>>858971

Coreboot needs proprietary blobs.

Can an optical drive actually be installed in an X60 or not?

>>858994

No, you need the UltraBase for it.

>>854751

You need to get one of those gibsons. you can hack across state lines with those.

Should I install my OS first or flash libreboot and then install it? Does it even matter?

>>859072

Doesn't matter anon.

Why is my shit idling at 60C even after repaste?

>>859081

Dust, shit tier cooling, high CPU use?

>>859112

Cleaned out the chassis, fan, and ducts. CPU is idling at 5% usually. Don't know what I can do about shit-tier cooling, It's a W500.

>>859131

1. You're mining cryptos for the botnet

2. You messed up, reseat your CPU

3. What >>859159 said.

>>859159

Fan's consistently 3000 RPM. Active cooling policy. I cleaned off all the old paste and only put a blackberry drupelet-sized amount and pushed the spreader straight down without any other motions. None went over the sides, as far as I can tell. It was some Arctic MX paste. Besides building RadeonTop (which will take some time figuring out on my end), is there any OpenBSD util to check? I think it might be a GPU issue, considering Firefox routinely presses my temps into 100C before the safety triggers it shuts off.

I can't even use it in a room above 70F, or else it's guaranteed to exceed 100C.

>>859177

I don't mine crypto. I've reseated my heatsink twice now. Replacing the paste lowered my idle temps from 80C to 60C.

>>859183

What's idling at 60C? YOur CPU or GPU? If i remember correctly the core2duo had a fairly high idle temperature. Look up your average on the intel website, there's a chance that it is ~55 in that case you might want to undervolt / underclock the CPU.

Have you tried booting from a usb stick to rule out software problems?

>>859183

This is a long shot but is the thermal piping damaged? If the liquid/gas that's used to transfer heat has leaked out it could cause temps like that. I've only seen temps like that in HP laptops.

Just for reference my t500 runs just fine at heavy load with the ati card in use.

>>859197

>45-55C

If you have ' bad batch CPU', a mediocre aluminium cooler and an aging fan 57C is probably normal at room temperature for a core2duo.

The problem lies with temp3: Your GPU? If this only happens in Firefox, try a different browser.

>>859214

Temp3 is regularly above 100C, right now it's 130C after having one tab of a YouTube video open. It's not a browser-specific problem, and it happens on Chrome and Otter.

I also ran a GPU load analyzer, and got zlich back.

>The problem lies with temp3: Your GPU?

No clue. I'm trying to compile lm-sensors for OBSD so I can find out.

>>859183

>is there any OpenBSD util to check?

>OpenBSD

Whoa there. Have you set up CPU throttling? It doesn't happen by default. I'm not on my OpenBSD machine right now, so I can't help you further than that.

>>859320

It was one of the things I tried, but speeds become unbearable. One of the interesting things I've found, is that if I run OpenBSD on insecure, my temps go down by about 10C. I don't know why it would.

>x201

>no libreboot support

>disabling ME from MEBx leaves it in a semi-broken state, using me_cleaner does the same

>it's out of support so Lenovo won't provide any firmware updates which would fix security problems which have popped up in recent months

Is this literally the worst Thinkpad to have? Older or newer ones can either be librebooted, are supported by me_cleaner, don't have ME in the first place, or can at least be updated, but the x201 seems fucked in all those regards.

>>859334

>speeds become unbearable

That's really strange. I have never noticed a problem with it. I have it set to "A," so that frequency scaling is automatic. And I'm on a T60 too, btw.

>if I run OpenBSD on insecure

>insecure

I have no idea what that is. Are you running -current? Has -current implemented a security fix for the recent CPU vulnerabilities or something?

You seem new to OpenBSD. There is a utility program included called "systat" (I think. Or maybe it's "sysstat"). Run it, and press your arrow keys to navigate through the different screens. One of the screens provides realtime output of hardware sensors. Might help you to monitor temperatures while troubleshooting.

>>859347

>Is this literally the worst Thinkpad to have?

I hate mine so much that it's at my parent's house on the other side of the continent, no fucks given. That piece of shit has the worst PWM ever. (Pulse Width Modulation. The LED backlight essentially blinks on and off in order to dim.) Shit would give me horrible headaches and racing heart. Fuck that machine. Also, the wiring inside was really sloppy. And the LCD screen was especially susceptible to dust and debris getting lodged behind it.

I think a lot of the new thinkpads have the same PWM problem. So basically fuck new thinkpads. And fuck new laptops. Fuck computers in general really.

>>859231

OpenBSD's focus is security, not ensuring that your computer doesn't get hot enough to boil water for tea.

So sit back and enjoy a cuppa, secure in the knowledge that your house will burn down before the CIAniggers ever compromise your laptop.

I took off the palmrest for my t430 and adjusted some stuff that required me to move the left speaker.

I put everything back together and my left speaker is now making this soft hissing noise that stops when i push down on the palmrest speaker filters

any idea what it could be?

>>859371

Are your speaker wires taped to the chassis? So many things can fuck with them and cause hissing, but it sounds like a wire problem to me.

>>859350

>That's really strange. I have never noticed a problem with it. I have it set to "A," so that frequency scaling is automatic. And I'm on a T60 too, btw.

I've tried "A" too on apmd, but I don't get linear core scaling. It's either hw.setperf=0 or hw.setperf=100 and hw.cpuspeed=800 or hw.cpuspeed=2801, with no in-between. "A" feels like "L" (max 800MHz) and any page with JS takes 5-7 seconds to load.

>I have no idea what that is. Are you running -current? Has -current implemented a security fix for the recent CPU vulnerabilities or something?

My bad. I'm running -current and at securelevel -1.

>You seem new to OpenBSD. There is a utility program included called "systat" (I think. Or maybe it's "sysstat"). Run it, and press your arrow keys to navigate through the different screens. One of the screens provides realtime output of hardware sensors. Might help you to monitor temperatures while troubleshooting.

I am, cheers for this. It's much easier than spamming up-arrow and enter to check temps.

>>859355

I thought I could have the best of both worlds. I was a fool for running it as a desktop.

>>859373

I took it out and screwed it back in again. It seems to be working fine now. I think the problem was the wire was around one of the little columns for the palmrest screws which pulled it really taut and caused the disturbance.

>>859374

Cool beans, my man. Screws are always a pain in the ass with Thinkpads. Some holes are for screws, some aren't. And sometimes when you put them in the wrong hole they won't ever come out. And other times one of the palm rest screws is too short and you're stuck with squeaking everytime you move your hands.

Is your hard drive screw identical to any of the other ones? Because, if not, I might be clinically retarded.

>>859376

Screws suck on all laptops but they're pretty well labelled and documented with Thinkpads, at least the good ones.

>>859347

It's the best Thinkpad to be chinked.

Keep the chassis and fan assembly, remove the motherboard and screen.

A chinese motherboard with Coffee Lake processor and a 1200p screen with eDP cable, put everything together and you have a machine that will work for another 10 years. Here are some links:

Mobo for 450 bucks https://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=2205138453

How to assemble https://www.51nb.com/shiyongjiqiao/2017-12-06/85967.html

A bunch of threads on their forum, look for X210-related, they have pictures and interesting stuff https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=x62&page=1

>>859376

Just buy a magnetic pad, you brainlet. Put screws on it and mark them with a pen.

The hardware manual clearly says which screw goes to which hole, just measure them if you think, you're lost.

>>859352

>The LED backlight essentially blinks on and off in order to dim

Not sure what you mean, but I suspect that you might be referring to when the screen switches from 60 to 50 Hz refresh rate to lower power usage after a few minutes of inactivity. I found this annoying too and thought it was some quirk of the display driver or something. But then I found the refresh reduction setting in power manager options and turned it off, and it never happened since.

Any other x201 owners care to chime in on what they do to optimize the unit? Any recommended hardware upgrades besides

>upgrade to 2x4GB RAM

>upgrade HDD to SSD

>install new keyboard (the pre-owned one is probably dirty and possibly has worn shiny keys)

>swap palmrest with an x200 one (no touchpad)

>get docking station with multirecorder optical drive, optimally also a caddy for a HDD which can be used in place of the optical drive

>more invasive, but worthwhile: swap lid with a x200 one equipped with a 1440x900 screen

Anything else? What version of BIOS are you using?

Anyone has been successful with using me_cleaner on the x201 without running into this https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X201-severely-crippled-after-disabling-Intel-AMT-AT-in-BIOS/td-p/811249 problem?

>>859376

>tfw the official Lenovo maintenance manuals insist you never reuse screwes but always buy and install brand new screws each each and every time you reassemble some parts of the laptop

>>859633

>tfw haven't changed screws for FIVE YEARS

>>859633

>>859663

>a pack of all the replacement screws is $5

Can a Thinkpad be used as an AMD64 router/firewall running pfsense/OpenBSD? Asking for a friend.

>>854345

>>854588

You are both correct on Thinkpad plastic, at least it's the shell cracking, and not the motherboard. It's sacrificial design, similar to a crumple zone in an automobile, but it is also inferior technology and licensing .

>>859633

They are counting on the screws being made from Chinese steel, so one use into plastic is about all you can expect.

>>859755

Can you elaborate? I have reassembled parts with the same screws time and time again, and have yet to see something falling apart. I haven't used fancy screwdrivers with torque control etc. but normal ones seem to work just fine.

>>859762

Chinese steel is notorious for being soft, because it costs extra to make good steel. They'll often provide one good ingot to the buyer for testing but the rest won't meet spec.

However, I was exaggerating a bit for humour. Even their cheap screws should hold up for repeated use into plastic. You're good.

>>859773

Post the ANGRY ABOUT CHINESE and Don't Learn Chinese greentexts

>>859789

Is there an archive for these threads?

>>859789

Gold.

Also, there's a Dutch seller on eBay that has a 600E and later this week a 770X, should I buy them? No idea what he's asking though.

>inb4 he's asking 150€ for both because heh fuck you old ThinkPads are worth €€€€

>>859904

>150€

isnt that like $30 in real world money though?

>>860028

Shit I wasn't far off, 125€ includig shipping for both.

Guess i'll have to keep a look out on eBay Kleinanziegen and the German ThinkPad forums.

>tfw el-sahef sold a very nice 770X with loads of accessoires for only 100€ a few weeks ago

So this just happened:

>get super cheap Lind charger in the mail (Thank you, Saved Searches!)

>power it up via a old as fuck Toshiba 15V charger

>nothing happens

>only something happens when I jiggle the laptop side cord

>fuck.jpg

>mail seller to tell him cable's broken

>5 minutes pass

>think "hey lemme try my own lind charger

>X31 and CF-31 both start charging with lind laptop cable

>hmm, this requires more research!

>steal charger from Toughpad dock for testing

>X31 and 31 start charging with original "broken" cable

>it ended up me being a retard and not holding the ends of the 12V cable tightly enough against the charger tip because heh fuck you I don't like electricity at all even if it's "only" 16V

>tell seller that I was wrong

>everything worked out in the end

Too bad the charger does have a broken center piece in the 12V side, but other than that I can't complain for 15€ with free shipping. (so I actually paid 8€ and he paid 7€ for shipping alone!)

what's wrong with T480s?

>>860169

intel sgx

>>860169

Backdoor shit, shit keyboard, Windows 10, ULV CPU, LelNoPo.

The thinkpad T60 has two WWAN slots. If I put an atheros card in the extra slot, would it pass the whitelist?

>>860832

thats what everyone says...cant you put a 4g chip in one of those?

>>860832

Only a few T60's actually have the WWAN connector.

Besides, you could just flash a modded bios instead.

Do X60s/T60s not have x86-64 processors? Someone was bitching about needing 32-bit shit for their X60 in another thread. I was thinking of getting one of these but I'm not so sure if I'm going to be stuff with 32-bit that nobody supports anymore.

>>861286

Core Duo CPUs don't support EM64T, Core 2 Duo's do.

no charger, what do?

>>861295

Fuck you you stupid nigger. You think you can say that shit and get away with it???? Get the fuck off my board. BTW I thought you should know me and Matt have BOTH been fucking Natalie everytime she's told you she's having a "girl's night".

>>861540

Get a charger you poorfag.

Got my X32p in the mail, damn this thing is awesome so far! Even included a HM160HC HDD! which I promptly swapped with my 32GB mSATA > IDE botch job

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-IBM-ThinkPad-T60p-/142677721008?

Why do so many people lie about IPS screens in their T60s? This guy is advertising his thinkpad as having a 15 inch display, when anyone with a brain can look at the bezels and know it's a 14 inch version. I've been looking for a T60 with an IPS screen that doesn't cost an exorbitant amount and it's just impossible.

Thanks for reading my personal blog.

>>862754

Showing results for: 2623d8u

THINKPAD T60P 2623-D8U

T2500(2GHz), 1GB RAM, 100GB 7200rpm HD, 14.1in 1400x1050 LCD, 256MB ATI FireGL V5200, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11abg wireless, WWAN, Bluetooth/Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Fingerprint reader, 9c Li-Ion batt, WinXP Pro

Report him, he's trying to scam people.

>>862960

That's just a typical 80's to early 90's laptop keyboard.

>>862837

>ATI FireGL V5200

Is there any chance to get a working Win98 driver for that GPU? Has anyone installed Win98 on T60(p) units? Also HDAudio would be a problem as there don't seem to be Win98 drivers for that type of sound cards either, or are there?

Found a working 701c (butterfly keyboard) on CL. 300 bucks or best offer.

Seller is too far from me.

>>862999

T60p with Win98 ain't going to work, you'd want a T4x or maybe even a T2x for that.

Also, I found earlier tonight I can watch 720p videos natively in Firefox without stutter on my new X32p, how cool is that!

>>863008

Too expensive for a piece of "meme" tech. Get something slightly less rare like a high-end T6x or 770.

>>863018

Haha. I already have some T60's.

>>862966

When did it all go so wrong...

>>863009

That would be too bad given that the first T60(p) models came in 2006 when Win98 was still on the brink of being supported. Last Catalyst driver with 9x support seems to be 6.2 which also supports x1nn cards, couldn't MobilityModder make it work with the Firegl 5200?

>>863036

>"chiclet is waaaaaaaaaay better than that old clunky thing", they said

>>863040

No idea, and I doubt Win98 likes Core (2) Duo CPUs.

>>863009

Ironically, it looks like you'd have much more luck with DOS on a T60 than with Win98. No video driver is needed as DOS should be fine with whatever the BIOS provides (VGA + VESA extensions), and there seems to exist a DOS driver for the T60 ethernet chip. The only other thing that DOS would need is a way to use the HD Audio via some sort of wrapper. All the while Win98 is stuck without network or sound support and with a basic VGA driver that's not fit for desktop use.

>>863052

I got it to run without such problem, the worst you can expect is having to turn off dual-core operation in BIOS. You also need to modify system.ini if you have more than a gig of RAM to avoid "out of memory" errors on boot. But the real problem is drivers for essential devices such as video, audio and network.

>>863036

one day we will turn back the clock with economies of scale, anon

one day...

Recieved my X3x bluetooth module and antenna today, and sold my X31 for 50€.

Might take it easy with the ThinkPads for now.

>>860832

That reminds me, the xx20 series of thinkpads have an extra pci slot too. Would putting an atheros card work in that case? also, would I have to use the blue and red cables, or would it still pass the check if I used the black and white wireless cables?

>>864296

Lenovo is full of kike thinking chinks, so most/all of their laptops have bios white lists. Expect a bios mod.

t. someone that put an ac card in a t440p

>>864299

It really wouldn't pass even if I used the free slot and the auxilary cables? damn you chinkovo.

>>864301

In my case I put the ac card in and it wouldn't even go past the POST/bios. Just halted it. ( I learned the hard way).

A ch341a, or a pi, and a soic-8 clip is only like $20.

>>864299

Lenovo IBM The FCC is full of kike thinking chinks.

fyp

>tfw your to brailet too put piece of tape on wireless card contact pin #20

https://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card

>>864452

That doesn't work for non-whitelisted cards you fucking faggot, it only works if pin 20 is causing the network card to be disabled.

Have any of you guys bought aftermarket batteries from longmall2012 on ebay? will his chink batteries kill me?

>>864859

they have snakes inside of them instead of batteries, just keep them cool or the snakes will wake up and bite you

>>864906

Mine got earthworms though. Shouldn't have opened it to be honest, eww.

Just bought a bigger SSD for my Toughpad, and put the old one in my X32p, and then put that one in my T23.

Only device without a SSD is my T22, but since it's limited to UDMA2 I won't bother.

For those of you that use a T420, how can you tolerate the incorrigible TN panels? I just saw one in person, and I think I have eye cancer now.

>>865524

Low brightness and a blue light filter

>>865531

>blue light filter

Care to say more? Most cheap LED-backlit LCD screens are too blue-ish.

>>865593

Redshift or f.lux to filter blue light.

Don't use f.lux though, botnet and all.

What are you currently searching for? for me, it's:

>X60T with a Core 2 Duo

Because the tablet versions come with IPS displays and no botnet. I'm really close to just buying one with a Core Duo.

>T60 with an IPS panel

I have one but it has backlight bleed and a new screen is way too expensive. A 15" IPS 4:3 display is the best.

>R60

Though it's inferior to the T60 in everyway, I'd like to have it just to have it.

>X40

Same as above.

>>865617

>770X

Last true Bento Box ThinkPad

>CF-31 Mk5

Hilariously expensive though, I might aswell buy a new one from a reseller

>CF-19 Mk6

Shit's 'n giggles mostly, the Toughpad I have is awesome performance wise but total shit for data input

Or:

>iKey G1 keyboard

Again, hilariously expensive and only available new, and no way I am going to pay 500€ for one

>>865598

why not buy some Gunnars or seriously invest in dark adaptor goggles, they're cross platform

>>865524

you throw it away.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

I had to do the same on my t440p, the 1336x768 panel that it came with was complete trash. ended up buying an AUO B140HAN01.2 and called it a day.

>>865411

Now this thing is running like a dream. Undervolted the CPU by 85mV and found out what was causing it to randomly go to sleep in Panasonic's fancy power plan extension program.

Now to reinstall everything again.

>>865865

Hilariously expensive new and used though, 850 USD with shipping and fees. I then might aswell get a Precision M6800 or something instead of that.

Fuck I ran down the street with a T series thinkpad in my bag a few days ago, I got cramps and my calf is still hurting.

Are the X series much lighter?

>>865869

$850 isn't that expensive when you have a job, unless the specs are super crap-tier or something. What kind of hardware are we talking here besides the nice screen?

>>865940

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-CF-RZ5YDDVS-Skylake-Intel-m5-6Y54-processor-Lets-note-RZ5-512-GB-SSD/253409157086?epid=1565772193&hash=item3b005cdfde:g:AzgAAOSwKfVXJWJw

What's the last toughbook to not have ME/AMT?

>>865598

>f.lux is botnet

How?

>>865865

>Let's note

Why do the japs have an obsession with the english phrase "let's" and tend to put it anywhere whether it makes sense or not?

>>865948

19/30 Mk1, or anything with a 945GM chipset basically.

>>865943

https://warosu.org/g/thread/S64659978#p64661767

He won it on Yahoo Auctions and had it shipped to him via a proxy shipper.

Also

>8chan

>expecting anons to have a job

lolno, we're all NEETs here.

>>865935

X220 seems to weigh 1.5kg, T420 2.25kg, and for reference, my slab of Magnesium (aka CF-31) 3.7kg.

So, yeah, if you bought a X220/230 you would drop quite a bit of weight.

>>865935

loose some weight fatty

>>865960

Geo locational services

God damn. Tried restoring my T23's SSD backup with Macrium but it didn't properly restore the partition table.

Reinstall it is then.

>>866351

Which, however, isn't that slow thanks to the SSD and a cut down XP install.

>>866351

https://www.classiccomputershop.eu/Webwinkel-Product-228083321/IBM-Thinkpad-600X-Type-2646-4EG-Pentium-III-500MHz-Windows-98-XP-13.3-laptop-w--IBM-adapter-P3-PIII-notebook-portable-computer.html

600X for 55€, should I do it?

>>866034

Don't talk shit about my roll cage, asshole

>>865991

Have you ever run down the street with your Toughbook?

>>866530

I took it multiple times with it's carrying strap with me on my bike, because I sometimes get asked for OBD2 stuff/car diagnostics.

>anon my car has a Check Engine light thats on can you come with your laptop and delete it?

>come over with 5$ chink OBD2 cable I bought years ago and CF-31

>read error codes

>your cat converter is busted you need a new one

>del error code

>get paid for the trouble

Thing is a bit back breaking though, it's certainly no CF-19 like I had a few years ago. That, and the screen is terrible compared to my Toughpad.

Would I go back to a 19? Hell no! Would I get a 31 Mk4 if they suddenly dropped in price like a brick? Definitely!

>>866581

That Toughpad is pretty cool.

>>866587

Certainly! Screen is awesome compared to my 31, performance isn't bad for a Haswell ULV CPU, and it boots up very quickly thanks to the 860 Evo SSD.

No keyboard is a major downside for me though, how am I supposed to play Deus Ex without one?

>>866960

>>866960

Me again. Screen is my only gripe about the T430. Shitty resolution and aspect ratio.

>>867099

Depends. If you go on taobao you can find the internal soldering guides for the MB and the Motherboard blueprints. Hard part is getting a fab of it and reading chinese.

>>867099

Those blow-up diagrams in HMMs are actually vector, aren't they?

>>866998

how bad slow is the 1.8in drive in it?

I was changing my T60's bezel today, and when it came off all was well, and then I pushed the case down and something behind the LCD was smoking. Just a tiny wisp of smoke, but I have no idea why or what could be the cause (I was too chickenshit to flip it over). Is it safe to keep using or will it burn my house down?

>>867295

I should add that I was using it the entire day before changing the bezel. I've used it an hour since then and I still don't smell any smoke.

>>867295

>>867297

magic capacitor smoke

open your windows and let the wind carry it away or the battery snakes might smell it

i'll be serious, smoke comes from burning components (or maybe plastic), pull it apart and look for the scorch marks. it would be a good idea to replace any broken components and definitely make backups just in case

this knowledge should be obvious by now, dimwit

>>867320

For now I've put it to the side and I'm using a different computer. When I play it again in my head, I don't think the smoke came from the back of the LCD, but rather from around the inverter board. I think that the bottom area of the LCD was really hot, and it came in contact with the inverter board...? I'll check in the morning. It could have been the cable as well.

>>867208

No idea, I haven't recieved it yet. I bet it's slow as fuck though, like all 1.8 inch HDDs.

>>867404

benchmark it when you get it, I'm curious.

>>867478

Fuck. Core Solo model. Oh well.

HDD is absolute shit speed wise though.

Found a T530 with a i5 3320M, xx20 keyboard and chink battery for 75€, should I go for it?

>>868723

Nevermind, seems to only have the Intel iGPU onboard. Not going to bother with that.

>>868727

intels igpu's are alright. if it has enough ram and a good drive it may be worth it at that price.

>>868784

HD 4000 is something I have in my CF-31, I want MOAR POWA!

Or I could just have connected my GTX1050 eGPU to it. Either way i'm looking out for a T530 with the dGPU.

>>866581

kek mx518

>tfw can't afford even a used thinkpad but I got a macbook for free

I really don't know what to think. Is my ePeen upgraded because I used GNU/Linux on it, or downgraded because it's a mac?

>>868808

Best mouse ever. I should get a new case of the one I use with my X32p but not now, Chinese New Year and all that.

>>868825

if you got it for free good on ya. what model is it?

make sure to watch the temps, my 5,5 was retarded and never put the fan higher than 2000RPM no matter what temp it was at.

>>868851

It's a 2010 model, I got it yesterday. Honestly, this is the first macbook I've ever touched. I simply took out the HDD from my old laptop and put it in this one. Seems to just werk, except I needed to install b43. Currently using Debian testing. However, I badly need a GNU sticker to cover up that logo.

>>868855

>>868851

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +67.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:        +67.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:        +66.0°C  (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

BAT0-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +39.5°C  

applesmc-isa-0300
Adapter: ISA adapter
Exhaust  :   2630 RPM  (min = 2000 RPM, max = 6200 RPM)
TB0T:         +39.2°C  
TB1T:         +39.2°C  
TB2T:         +37.0°C  
TC0C:         +65.2°C  
TC0D:         +62.8°C  
TC0E:         +66.2°C  
TC0F:         +66.5°C  
TC0J:          +0.0°C  
TC0P:         +60.0°C  
TC1C:         +66.0°C  
TC2C:         +65.0°C  
TCGC:         +65.0°C  
TCSA:         +64.0°C  
TCTD:          +0.0°C  
TM0P:         +49.2°C  
TM0S:         +60.5°C  
TMBS:          +0.0°C  
TP0P:         +61.0°C  
TPCD:         +68.0°C  
TW0P:        -127.0°C  
Th1H:         +51.0°C  
Ts0P:         +36.0°C  
Ts0S:         +47.5°C  

Seems to be running pretty hot, but I don't know how normal this is for a macbook.

>>868856

that's pretty hot if that's not under load. I'd recommend to repaste+clean it if you have the time/dedication to do so, made a huge difference on mine. a custom fan map would help too. apple puts on way to much, least in the units I've cleaned.

>>868868

I'll probably do that.

Bought a IBM branded keyboard today. Seems to be from the same period as the X3x and T4x models.

Also bought a CardBus LAN card for my T22.

>>869401

Dug out my T22 and funnily enough the network card gets instantly detected by 2000, no drivers required.

Yay, I guess.

Flashed windows installation to a USB

trying to install win7 on t430

"Device drivers not found on installation media"

what do?

>>869520

Install Gentoo.

>>869520

Stop using Windows.

>>869521

>>869581

I already have it on my computer you autists, I'm installing on a second drive

Thinking of ThinkPads, what do y'all think is the best laptop here: https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom

>>869640

W500 that you flash yourself with Libreboot.

>>869631

Nonsense, just install gentoo again. Why have wangblows on any hard drive?

>>869549

nah, that's not UK

What should I do first to my X220 when I get it? Flashing the latest modded BIOS is #1 on my list.

>>869655

>W500 that you flash yourself with Libreboot.

Let's say I really, REALLY want that "Respects Your Freedoms" sticker to completely officialize it.

>>869549

Looks maybe Norwegian or Danish with stickers over the Å, Æ, and Ø keys?

>>869658

Because bidya gaemu that don't run on wine

>>869710

Print it yourself on a printer with GPL'd firmware.

I found a Thinkpad R40 on $33, without charger.

is this a good machine?

is there some anon who have a list of good computers, no botnet, and librebot?

>>869730

R40 is trash, Acer built machine. If you really want a R-series get a R52 or if you're loaded with cash, a R50p QXGA.

>>869738

thanks anon

>>869723

>running games on wine

Supertuxkart is the only game you need.

I've become a total faget and I just bought a Thinkpad T25. Make fun of and / or roast me /tech/ but it is the only new laptop with a pointing stick and a proper keyboard.

I'll let you all know how it copes with various OS's when I get it. I am hoping to get OpenBSD running on it, if not then I'll use Devuan. I won't boot faggy old Windows even once of course.

>>869903

No one cares. The benchmarks are literally already there.

>roast

Underage.

>>869921

>benchmarks

What are you talking about, benchmarks? I'm not a gaymer, you fag.

>>869930

Okay.

>>869932

This board really needs IDs.

>>869942

Why?

>>869723

All games worth playing run great on Wine.

>>869945

Because I'm an insecure retard.

>>869723

>games on a business machine

>>869903

OpenBSD is baby tier install, the only reason it isn't widely used since is the since lusers are secretly afraid of anything black, so that rules out the commandline

Also, the OS is slow since there is secretly a JVM hidden in the kernel

>>869985

>there is secretly a JVM hidden in the kernel

You're gonna have to bring some proofs anon.

I'm more concerned with support of the various bits of hardware.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Thinkpad-T43p-Professional-Computer-Loaded-2-13GHz-2GB-320GB-UXGA-Flawless/182135222319?hash=item2a681af02f:g:ZakAAOxytdlQ9q~K

This is my dream.

>>870633

>500$ FOR A FUCKING T43p

I am ready. God take me already. Fuck this gay earth.

Seriously though, who the fuck asks 500$ for a laptop from 2005? Scalpers?

>>869549

No IPS panel sadly, but I do have a Intel 6300 card and a i5 2540M, not bad for 50€!

>>870821

And a battery that's only 20% worn too! Now to think what I should do with it..

>>870634

Wait to freak out until it sells matey.

>>870830

There's retards for everything I suppose.

>>870834

It's a "Professional Computer Loaded! Flawless" though.

>>869987

How could it be so slow otherwise?

>>870216

I don't fear it, I adore it, it taught me patience. Installing it to brag on a thinkpad thread is not a good idea. If you want to brag, use Arch on a Librem like the caffeine cattle you are.

>>860110

what did they mean with this? you connect a charger to another charger?

>>871497

Charger I bought didn't come with a cigarette lighter plug, so I manually connected the wires to a laptop charger to test if the Lind charger itself worked.

It did, thankfully.

What was the last good thinkpad? 4:3 screen, no chiclet keyboard, no "elegant" thin bullshit, and preferably no trackpad. Is there nothing good after the x200?

>>871535

T70

X62

Or a Toughbook like the CF-31, if you can stand the XGA display.

Ordered some ThinkPad shit today and recieved my X220 yesterday: a Slice Battery for my X32p, nearly new main battery, and a T23 palmrest.

>>871535

I prefer the X60T to the X200. The pickings are beyond slim, but hold out for one with a Core 2 Duo. The X60T is 4:3 and IPS, no chiclet (and it has a solid steel plate under the keyboard, unlike the X200), + it also doesn't have a trackpad. The 1.5ghz low voltage processor and 3gb RAM limitation is kinda shit, but it's perfectly usable with a lightweight setup. It also is ME/AMT free. If you don't care about that you could get a X61T, but their screens have a bubbling issue. You could also get a 15" T60p and put a W500 heatsink inside it (it has to have ATI graphics) and a T7600, it'll run cool but only with a W500 heatsink. All 15" T60p ThinkPads come with IPS displays. Thanks for reading my screed.

>>871535

i suggest a T500 if you can stand the 16:10 display.

>>871558

What steel plate are you talking about? All thinkpads have some sort of metal plate that serves as keyboard foundation/chassis, covered with conductive membrane, teflon film, rubber domes and scissor switches. There is no major difference in underside chassis either, X-series models lack full body roll cage unlike T-series do, it goes straight to the motherboard. I assume X60's keyboard flexes less because it's narrower, however I prefer X200's keyboard because it represents 60% layout with full-width keys and my fingers are rather long and big. X60 is good for girls. X200 is for boys.

>>871535

I'd say X200s. If it had a 3:2 13 inch display and no webcam would be an ideal laptop in this millennia. Hope, chinks deliver. Have seen threads about fitting Chromebook's display in X210 on their forums. The satisfying flatness of the bottom without weird bulges like in X200, it simply needed a flat 8-cell battery to accompany it's perfection. The thickness is ideal just to feel it in your hand, not thick enough to be bulky, nor thin enough to feel like a clipboard, just thick enough, 25 millimeters of perfection.

All this could have been done then, but 2009 is the year when our timeline started, the point of no return.

>>853406 (OP)

there seems to be a lot of love for these things here...

can someone explain why?

>>872014

they were produced before the race to the bottom reached half-time

>>872014

They're built to be sturdy, functional, sober, and expensive. Businesses buy them for their employees then sell them cheaply five years later, which removes the "expensive" part.

The same goes for other lines of business laptops, probably, like Elitebooks and Probooks, but Thinkpads grew a cult.

>>871993

X20x don't even have a 3:4 screen, they have a 16:10 screen.

>>872014

Reliable, easy to get parts for, relatively cheap, and in the case of Toughbooks: pretty much unkillable.

>>872139

Solid pieces are not usually more sturdy than meshed.

>>871558

> T60p and put a W500 heatsink

Won't that result in a slightly bulged keyboard though (due to the GPU heatsink part being slightly taller than it's supposed to be in a T60p)? Completely unacceptable to anyone OCD enough, you'll hate using the laptop feeling the slight bulge while typing, also the left part of the keyboard will be slightly wobbly.

>>871993

>no webcam

>an ideal laptop in this millennia

>A: Hello, this is Jane from HR, thank you for sending in your resume, before we can meet in person at our office we'll need to do a video interview over Skype.

>B: Hurr durr, I'm a retarded anon from the basement and don't have a webcam in my laptop because it's botnet. Oh and Skype is botnet too.

>A: Too bad, enjoy your basement then. Have a nice day. Bye. *click*

>>859633

>tfw some of the more used screws on my thinkpad are dangerously close to becoming stripped

>>872449

>things_that_happen.mp4

>>872449

What's the point of having a video call instead of using IRC?

>>872488

>IRC as a replacement for a video call

>HR drones using IRC

Sure thing pal.

>>872449

>plug in USB webcam

>ask if you can use meet.jit.si instead

I mean, I'm not autistic enough to go that far, but it's not some sort of insurmountable problem.

>>872495

>HR drones using IRC

I thought for most programming jobs communication was done through IRC. IRC has been around for decades everyone should already know how to use it regardless.

>>872481

I think someone should start selling titanium torx screw kits for thinkpads.

>>872449

>A: Hello, this is Jane(♂) from devops team, I'll be your supervisor, thank you for sending in your curriculum vitae, before we can meet in meatspace at our office we'll need to do a text interview over IRC.

>B: Well-well, I'm a self-sufficient adult person and happen to live in an underground facility. I am surely be willing to do so because it respects my freedoms. Oh and Skype is botnet, don't you agree?

>A: Ha-ha, you've got such a nice sense of humor, UwU. Meet me at 8 tomorrow at #devops@companyname.corp. Have a nice day. Bye-bye ;) *click*

Aw yeah, sold my X220 today for twice what I paid for it.

Thinking of getting a Precision M6800, should I go for it?

>>870955

OpenBSD is no longer really slow thanks to the giant speed reduction Linux and Windows have suffered due to mitigation of recently found vulnerabilities. OpenBSD seems to actually be immune already:

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631&w=2

>>872449

>spin up Skype in your VM

>Windows automatically owns you with Meltdown

>you still get the job

??? I don't see the problem here.

>>872595

OpenBSD still vulnerable to meltdown and spectre v1 & v2, only CURRENT has meltdown fix.

>>872609

Proofs?

>>872612

It's a hardware issue so there are your proofs read the paper no OS is excluded from this.

>>872614

https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.fi/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html

>>872616

Also mitigations required will degrade performance even more.