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>>874514 (OP)

Why does nobody mention the X201? It's a better X220.

-more screen space (16:10)

-option to completely remove trackpad

>>874516

>Why does nobody mention the X201? It's a better X220.

Because you should be mentioning the X200 either way, faggot.

>16:10 display

>no trackpad, only clit

>last IBM designed laptop

>libreboot-compatible

>>874519

It's okay to bo gay.

>>874519

>last IBM designed laptop

source or fake

Stop making chatroom generals faggot.

Schools are a great source of old thinkpads. If you're lucky you'll get one for free like i did.

>>874585

The OP is not a reply

>>874525

Last IBM made ThinkPad was the Z6x IIRC, everything afterwards is Lelnopo.

>>874354

By tightening the screws, I mean the ones on the heatsink that secure it to the CPU; but this isn't all that important. You'll need to put one of the thicker thermal pads (the kind you'd find on Northbridge) to the left of the cmos battery (so, it'll be on the magnesium skeletion, and it'll be touching the area that houses RAM). this elevates the keyboard just enough to make it equal. Note that it'll raise the area with the mouse buttons; but it's better than having your entire keyboard lopsided. I wish I had a camera so I could show you a picture, but it's pretty simple. I don't feel more keyboard flex using this method but ymmv.

>>874662

Here are some photos of a W500 heatsink inside a T60 - notice the square space next to the cmos battery, that's where you'll need to put the thermal pad.

http://www.directupload.net/file/u/50553/d6ukul3h_jpg.htm

http://www.directupload.net/file/u/50553/96xa8q79_jpg.htm

>>874522

no you fuck. its not good enough to be cool and trendy to get an old overpriced laptop...the hardware on the 201 has to be finagled so you dont have to use propriatarey nonfree software

>>874577

how to get into schools. where do they hide the good thinkpads? i know a couple that have computer racks but the only one that I saw had chromebooks and i was like yucky

>>874665

holy crap is that ur project? what kind of processor does the t60 have?

>>874777

befriend the IT guy.

>>874665

el-sahef is that you? :^)

>>874607

He claimed the old thread had hit 400 posts as he was making the thread, while pic shows it hadn't.

>>874775

>the hardware on the 201 has to be finagled so you dont have to use propriatarey nonfree software

? Any details on this?

>>874997

X201 can't be librebooted, only the X200 can.

What's the fastest wifi card that supports F-R-E-E-D-O-M and L-I-B-E-R-T-Y?

Does it fit into half slot? That would be perfect)

>>874993

The OP of that thread, which you referenced in your picture, does not count as a reply when talking about "400 posts." If you include the OP with the total amount of replies, it adds up to be 400 posts total.

>>875064

Anything Atheros.

>>874775

What does that have to do with homosexuality?

>>875162

But nothing with 802.11ac

What about pci mini sata ssd for installing an OS?

What is the appeal of thinkpads

I got an HP envy laptop and it’s actually pretty nice. I can’t imagine a thinkpad has any advantages over it aside from repelling pussy

>>875200

Easy to get parts, easily repairable, huge community behind it, reliable, relatively cheap used.

>>875205

why do you respond to blatant bait? it must be 'tism, in which case its okay, i forgive you

>>875200

LOL backala mohammad jihad

>>874514 (OP)

I got an x220t. Is there an after market mod for the screen rotating hinge so it can go left and right?

>>875247

yea u just need a hammer and some duck tape

1. hammer

2. tape

3. rotate

>>875200

Good keyboard on the non-chicklet ones, built like a tank, has trackpoint, excellent freetard OS / hardware compatibility.

>>875247

Nope, physically impossible.

>>875182

Should be doable IIRC, haven't tried it.

>order Thinkpad 25

>thing arrives with a broken left Trackpoint button

>send it back

Lelnovo had better fix my clicker quick.

I have 2 T500's, 8GB Ram upgraded to T9800, Both have the ATi 3650, 120GB SSD's was my daily Until i was gifted an X-1 Carbon with the I5. Both are running Win 8.1 with a lot of regsitry gutting (as much as i could get away with) Always wanted to try libre/coreboot. I'm looking @ the requirements and it seems i'll need to install a chip to flash?

>>875702

25 is literally just a nu-pad with a decent keyboard. It's still got the thin bullshit, the 16:10 screen, and everything else there is to hate about recent laptops, and for all that it doesn't even have decent specs among recent laptops.

>>875727

>25 is literally just a nu-pad with a decent keyboard. It's still got the thin bullshit, the 16:10 screen, and everything else there is to hate about recent laptops, and for all that it doesn't even have decent specs among recent laptops.

It has the only decent keyboard on the market especially with the nub, and the screen is actually very nicely done with the anti-glare. I know about all the botnet and not very impressive specs and whatnot though Louis.

>>875727

>16:10 screen

No, worse -- 16:9.

>>875715

If it has ATI graphics you can't libreboot it, but coreboot is possible. Also, yes -- you'll need an external flasher.

>>875739

the t500 has switchable graphics, he'll just lose the ati chip on libre.

Help, I just bought a T60 and a Precision M70. No chargers and unknown specs, they should work however.

Holy shit if that M70 has the WUXGA screen though...

>>874519

>x201 a shit with nothing to it that would redeem it in any way

o-ok

>>875872

And only 10 minutes after posting this, my mailman ringed the bell and a parcel containing two X3x batteries and a T23 palmrest came in.

>>875739

>16:9 is bad

only if you are a video editduhhhher

>>876025

It's 4:3 with the top cut off.

I have a restore disc question: can I just call Lelnopo in my country and ask "hey I got this X32 and I want FRU xxx which is the Windows XP Pro restore disc for this machine"

>>876153

>X32

>Windows XP

"not supported, kthxbai. ps buy our latest shit"

How about making /tpg/ and /terry/ into rolling stickies, given that they are remade perpetually?

>>876171

Because then you'd get cyclicals for every thread related to one subject, not something guy9000 is waiting on I guess.

>>876190

recurring subject* not one subject

Room mate bought a T430 and I'm jealous; my L430 works but I know there are better models. I've put up an ad for older models and got a message from a guy with a W530. A beefy upgrade, unfortunately it has the chicklet keyboard, but I think that's what the L430 also has which I'm okay with. Is it worse than the L430 freedom-wise?

Does this wiki have some wiki/buyers guide?

>>876212

this general, I mean

>>876212

Should be the same pretty much, Ivy Bridge.

Oh, and do the xx20 keyboard mod when you get it.

>>876153

Lenovo doesn't even offer driver downloads for Thinkpads that old on its web site any more.

You're looking at going onto the auction site or finding it as warez if you need a restore disc. Best plan is to just install Linux or OpenBSD or something instead.

So my Thinkpad 25 came back today, really quick service from Lelnovo. The buttons work fine on this unit and I'm quite happy with it, even if the top two rows of keys are a little weirdly laid out compared to my IBM Thinkpads.

Now to get the NVIDIA working. I hope some day to be able to get rid of Intel ME too but for now those CIA niggers can have at it.

Cool, I should be getting my Precision M70 and T60 tomorrow.

>>876837

Except I didn't, fucking seller shipped them at 7 PM, which is too late. Parcel service picks up parcels at 5:30 PM.

Oh well. What games can I play on a GeForce 6800?

>>874522

since when touching clit make you gay...

You need to gibe logic there

how much would you put for an X200 and for an X220 ?

>>877348

Since I'm actually on the hunt for one, I'd gladly pay 2500 SEK for one. Roughly $300. This is on the Swedish market, mind.

>>876218

Not even in the "EOL downloads" area?

>>877290

Fucking kill me already. PostNL doesn't deliver parcels on Monday where I live.

>>877774

Only for x6x and up IIRC.

>>877930

Theres this though: https://thinkpads.com/support/Thinkpad-Drivers/download.lenovo.com/lenovo/content/ddfm/T60.html

>>877348

>x220

about $120

> x200

no more than $70

t. user of a $35 x200t in breddy gud condition

LOL, the seller sent me a M6400 instead of a M70, what a retard!

T60 even has WWAN and 3GB RAM, awesome!

>>878771

Just bought a X9100 for it and installing XP, making a XP/Vista era gaming rig out of this thing.

looking for an atheros network card for my X200 and there's way too many to choose from and the differences I don't understand too well. Can anyone help me out with what to get

Is the t520 any good? Anything that I should know before I buy one?

>>879692

Cons: 1600x900 - bad resolution, weak sound, no USB 3.0

Pros: compatible w/ Coreboot and comfy classic keyboard

>>878929

Are you going to be using it with Libreboot?

I use an AR5B95 with mine.

>>879841

It's a good idea. Qwerty is unintuitive.

>>879841

The early Minitel terminals were basically glorified online phonebooks, and the keyboard shown in that image would have sufficed. As early as two years later, the newer terminals were using AZERTY keyboards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY

>>879797

yeah gonna see if i can do only free software

>>880339

T430s isn't supported by Libreboot, only Coreboot - so you can't be 100% FLOSS

Also, chiclet keyboard

>>880737

Chucks. Oh well, probably beats the current firmware. At least the chiclet keyboard beats the one on my L430. Got a HHKB to remedy it for long writing sessions, at least.

tl;dr: How hard is it to change an Display for T530 or T540p?

I'm in need of a need Notebook and it should be an ThinkPad this time. After some research I came to the conclusion that an T530 or an T540p would probably the right choice, since I'm a big guy in needing of an big screen, but also because the stats seems ok for the price. Problem is, I'm pretty poor atm but need some mobile working machine as soon as possible, so i thought it might be an good idea to skimp on the screen resolution and get an decent display later on.

I'm just not sure how hard it would be, what tools i would need to change it, and would it doable with the motorics of an tractor?

I did a little research before, but found nothing specific to the T540p or T530, so i thought it would be an good idea to ask /tech/

>>880746

> probably beats the current firmware

Yes, of course

I don't know if Coreboot includes GRUB directly in the flash boot as Libreboot does

Because of this, you can encrypt /boot partition for example

If you want to go full free software, you will need to buy another hardware like T400 or T500

> chiclet keyboard

All I feel is pain

>>875200

Go back to cuck chan.

>>880968

All classic design thinkpads are easy to swap parts.

The problem is whether or not you can find the screens.

>>878055

>t. user of a $35 x200t in breddy gud condition

My man!

My first x200t was $60. My second x200t was $40 with a bad screen. It also turned out to be an x201t that someone had did a shitty job replacing the screen.

From there I got a $20 multitouch screen and rebuilt it.

Then I added on an internal msata adapter so I have my OS on an ssd and everything else on the HDD.

It's downright comfy.

x201t isn't as good as x200t.

>>880979

Been wanting to libreboot mine.

you got a guide you follow or recommend? I'm a bit wary about fucking it up

>>881245

>https://libreboot.org/docs/install/rpi_setup.html

This the original guide for Coreboot. I completely skipped the part where they suggest to change the MAC (not sure of it's purpose, to be quite frankly).

Essentially, all you have to do is this part right here:

pi# cd ~/flashrom
pi# ./flashrom -p linux_spi:dev=/dev/spidev0.0,spispeed=512 --chip <your_chip_name> -r romread1.rom
pi# ./flashrom -p linux_spi:dev=/dev/spidev0.0,spispeed=512 --chip <your_chip_name> -r romread2.rom
pi# ./flashrom -p linux_spi:dev=/dev/spidev0.0,spispeed=512 --chip <your_chip_name> -r romread3.rom
pi# sha512sum romread*.rom

pi# ./flashrom -p linux_spi:dev=/dev/spidev0.0,spispeed=512 --chip <your_chip_name> -w libreboot.rom

If you omit the --chip parameter, it'll automatically list all the possible chip choices, and it'll specify the ROM dimension in bytes, and given that information you can download the appropriate Libreboot file.

If you're running Raspbian, you don't even have to compile Flashrom, since it's already present in its repo.

Keep in mind that although the in the guide the SPI Speed is set to be 512, I noticed that with my RPi B+ it didn't work at all. Even at 256 is often failed. Setting it at 128 worked just fine.

>>881245

>I'm a bit wary about fucking it up

You can't really fuck up, since the first thing you'll do is dump the factory's ROM, which you should be able to flash in case something goes wrong.

Found a guy parting out a Dell Inspiron with a T7600, bought the CPU for a nice price and should be getting it later this week. TOL T60 build here I come!

Still need a SXGA+ screen, T60p board, W500 cooler and LED conversion kit though.

>>882129

Shit I just installed HD Tune on my T60 and found out the SSD has one retired block. How fucked am I?

>>882129

It really is the best machine ever with those enhancements. I have a UXGA Hydis panel but I think I would've preferred a SXGA+ IPS panel, because most pages don't render correctly and it has a (slight) blue tint.

>>882362

Except a SXGA+ IPS panel doesn't exist in 14.1, apparently. I always thought T4*p/T60p 14.1 models had a AFFS panel.

Guess I was wrong all the time.

>>882379

Yeah, and the 14.1" SXGA+ panels are horribly blue (just like the panels in the xx20 series). The XGA panels aren't bad though.

>>882399

Ergo, stick with the XGA panel then?

>>882403

In my opinion, yes.

>>881251

The part about the pins confuses me a bit. it says start counting from the right but the diagram shows the number starting from the left.

>>882464

The pins start from the side without USB ports.

>spending $30 on Raspberry Pi that will collect dust in your drawer after you done flashing Libreboot instead of buying $3 CH341A that plugs in any USB port without the need to ssh or extra monitors and keyboards

shiggy diggy

>>882723

>implying I didn't already have a RPi from 2014

Also, mine collects dust behind the TV, since it's used as Media Center.

>>882747

ARM is fully proprietary and just as vulnerable to Spectre as Intel is. RPi won't even start without proprietary firmware that does who-the-fuck-knows-what.

>>882749

Spectre is a spook and not the reason you should be trying to avoid Intel. The Intel ME is.

>>882751

How can you know that RPi doesn't come with its own version of ME?

>>882752

Because there is no such documented feature in ARM processors?

>>882756

Still, the RPi isn't any better.

>https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers

>>882761

Libreboot website says it is possible to run BeagleBone and Rpi with fully free software. FSF needs to update their fake news article.

Just disassembled my T60, waiting for the T7600 to come in the mail tomorrow.

Also replaced the thermal pads for the X1300 GPU.

>>883316

>Also replaced the thermal pads for the X1300 GPU.

Are you supposed to replace those? I mean, thermal paste dries off, but those pads seem to remain always the same.

>>882765

>Rpi with fully free software

Exactly where?

Beagleboards can be run without GPU so they can go complete FOSS mode, but RPi requires the proprietary firmware to boot since RPi is a video decoding SBC for educational porpoises

ARM is a spook but all RISC is suckless secure, since there are less features by default, and features are bugs or exploits

>>883691

Had to replace it because they eroded away, basically.

Typing this from my T7600 equipped T60 btw, not bad how fast this thing is!

>>883727

>Typing this from my T7600 equipped T60 btw, not bad how fast this thing is!

What about power consumption?

I'm considering to use my P8700'd Thinkpad x200 without Xorg and exclusively with `screen` to reduce any sort wasted processing power.

>>883730

Undervolted to 1.0375V so even with Prime95 running it won't go above 70C.

>>883727

Significanlty faster than a Pentium 4 or an Atom, but then again any Core i (even first gen) is significantly faster that the first gen Core 2. In particular, you'll notice sluggishness when perusing Google Street View in 1680x1050 resolution.

>>883746

>>you'll notice sluggishness when perusing Google Street View

>Google Street View

<unironically using anything Google related

>>883749

>ARM isn't a duopoly like x86

Isn't it a monopoly though? Because all ARM chips are made by Acorn?

>>883757

ARM Holdings is a monopoly only in the sense that they control the IP. They license their core designs (like the Cortex series) to anyone who wants to manufacture them, and they also license their instruction set to anyone who wants to make entirely new designs. Companies who have fab plants (like Allwinner) pay to use the license and integrate it into SoC's. Then those are bought by companies that make SBC's like Beaglebone and Banana Pi. So ARM Holdings has less direct control over the hardware implementation than Intel. So the ARM hardware is more diverse and you have more choices. You just have to know what to look for, and what to avoid.

>>883747

it's a good bench of bloated browser shit, if nothing else.

>>882749

>>883749

> just as vulnerable to Spectre as Intel is

Wrong, the Pi is immune to Spectre.

REPEAT THE PI IS IMMUNE TO SPECTRE

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/why-raspberry-pi-isnt-vulnerable-to-spectre-or-meltdown/

>>883735

With RMClock, or another way?

>>883920

ThrottleStop.

Bought a CF-29 Mk4 today, paid 75€ but it did came with charger, battery, caddy AND a CF-27 CD/DVD drive!

>>884074

Went back and got myself a R61 15" nonWS for 25€, and a Advanced Dock+car charger for 25€

Not bad, if you ask me.

>>884074

>>884121

Where are you buying all this good from?

>>884123

A HAM radio market nearby me that's every year, got 3 CF-18 Mk4's from that same market last year.

>>884121

LOL, this R61 actually has the mobo of a T60 in it.

Damn I feel retarded now, couldn't get Middleton's BIOS installed somehow, this explains why!

T500 here, been looking at the spectre firmware upgrades and it's not listed. Am I fucked?

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282#thinkpad

>>884254

I guess so. Anything older than xx20 has officially been EOL for a year or so, and it's hard to imagine they would bother with. The x201 was lucky to get a BIOS update last year for the "Silent Bob" thing, but with Meltdown/Spectre I wouldn't get any hopes up.

>>884199

Fuck, Roll Cage has the infamous break just above the fan grille.

Going up for sale it is!

>>884288

Well shit, guess I'm going shopping again.

>>884288

>>884308

>you will never have a usable Thinkpad (or any laptop or probably any x86 computer at all) that has a good keyboard, has no ME (or equivalent), and is not vulnerable to Spectre (or similar potentially catastrophic silicon-level """bugs""")

>>876025

There's a lot of banal tasks than benefit from vertical space, such as reading and writing text. You don't have to be a veedeeoh editor.

>>884567

Step it up you pleb, I just took my CF-29 in the shower and cleaned all sorts of gunk off it.

Let's see your ThinkPad do that!

>>884598

First time I saw it was 1 month ago.

>>884570

Aaaaand sold. except I made a razor thin profit of 35%

>>884791

Fuck yeah, sold my R60 too.

Didn't make a profit, but I took out the 500GB HDD and 2GB SODIMM that was in it though, so there's that.

Oh fuck my life.

>get X9100 in mail

>dissassemble M6400 to install

>power on

>nothing happens

>I need a 240 watt adapter for it to work

THANKS DELL

>>885893

Thankfully it was relatively easy to dissasemble, so when I get a 240w adapter I'm going to upgrade, I can't get it sold anyway so i'm kind of stuck with it.

>>885895

Bought a 240W adapter for a few bucks, might aswell keep it now.

Also traded my Port Replicator II for the smaller one, and found out the dad from the guy I traded it with is a huge techie, heading back later this week to him to have my X32 fixed.

My regular ATI T60 makes this really annoying buzzing sound when I scroll using the trackpoint, what could the source be? My T60p doesn't have the same problem.

>>886548

Coil whine?

I found a guy who sells a couple of Thinpads with only one functioning USB port.

What can I assume from this?

>>886691

Wrecked trash you should stay away from.

And I got chinked. Fuck my life. Let's hope Paypal will refund my money for that X9100.

>>888090

I'm quite sure reverse won't work, that's a female to male adapter.

>>888090

OH FUCK ME THIS DAMNED ADAPTER.

I used to have a Lenovo G-series laptop.

The build quality was SHIT. Especially the power cord.

It would simultaneously ruin both the adapter and the fucking port.

So many God forsaken dollars I shelled out on that fucking thing.

>>888090

What is this even? Power to what?

>>888395

Round to square ThinkPad converter.

>>888522

Newish "thinkpads" have rectangular power sockets? Whew

Finally librebooted my laptop but now when I turn it on and choose to go into my arch install I get a few errors

Failed to map dmar2

Also it can't find a specific UUID so it drops into emergency shell and I get a rootfs prompt. Not sure what to do from here. Any help would be appreciated.

God damn, I feel retarded now. I spent two days trying to find the P8600 from my M6400 because I lost it, and it ended up sitting in a ESD bag in my bucket of computer screws.

That FX2700M is a beast of a DX10 card though.. it runs Fallout NV at 1440x900 Ultra with 60+ FPS when overclocked, not bad if you ask me!

https://www.notebookcheck.com/Lenovo-will-ein-neues-15-Zoll-ThinkPad-ohne-Nummernblock-auf-den-Markt-bringen.291714.0.html

What would be the chances of Lelnopo fucking this up once again like they did with the ThinkPad T25?

>>889166

Ich spreche keine deutsch.

>>889065

dmar2 thing is basically a non-issue. What's your UUID problem?

>>889216

Can you post your arguments to GRUB

>>889352

how do I show my grub arguments

>>889216

lsblk -fs, look for UUID of your partition. Then edit your /etc/fstab accordingly.

>>889354

Do you get one GRUB menu or two? Some will have the Libreboot GRUB followed by their MBR GRUB, some will just have the LIbreboot GRUB

>>889357

press "e" anyhow

>>889362

depending on your partitioning scheme, set the "Arch Linux" scheme so the line

linux        /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=xxxxxx rw

 linux        /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/sdXn rw

>>889364

same issue. not finding the partition

>>889375

Is your drive encrypted?

>>889378

I don't remember encrypting it to be honest but what if it was

>>889382

Can you boot into a livecd?

>>889385

Yea I can boot into a liveUSB. My SSD is still there and everything.

>>889409

Illiterate spotted.

>>890067

Taobao or LCDfans' their Facebook page.

Or try asking around on the ThinkPad subreddit, I guess.

Went to a thrift store today and found a IBM ThinkPad laptop bag for only 4€, needs a good wash and it doesn't fit in the largest washer I have at home and it didn't came with a shoulder strap.

Not a bad score for that amount of money if you ask me, now my T2x's and my T60 have bags!

>>889171

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-wants-to-release-a-new-15-inch-ThinkPad-without-a-numpad.291718.0.html

FUCK advert sites.

>see CF-M34 on local adverts site for 40€

>ask a few questions like are all port covers there and do you ship

>he answers them like normal

>I offer him 15€

>"I'll let that offer stay for 2 weeks and if anyone doesn't go over that it's yours"

>delete offer because this site isn't eBay you fucking nigger

Not much of value was lost however, it's only a Mk1 model with the even then hilariously slow Celeron 400 CPU.

>tfw no cheap CF-28 because Europe

Help, I just bought five T6x era ThinkPads for only 40€

>T60 14" SXGA+/X1300

>T60 15" SXGA+/X1300

>T60 14" XGA/GMA950

>R61 unknown with SVP

>Dead T400

No chargers, batteries or HDDs, but at least I can pilfer the screen out of that T60 SXGA+ for mine now!

>>890223

Oh shit, the 15 inch SXGA+ T60 has a FlexView screen: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/t60-14-1-modification-swap-xga-screen-for-sxga-directly.324483/

>>882747

>what is a Powerbook G4 which is more powerful than that thing and has a real keyboard and you can still buy batteries

If somebody would do this pi in a laptop shell thing correctly I'd jump on it though.

>>890499

https://www.ebay.com/itm/173171560120

FUCK my life. I would kill someone for this thing. Also missed out on a untested Toughpad in Germany for only 160€ back in November, oh well.

>>890491

Honestly the real problem with it is the fact that it's tied to the raspberry pi and you still can't replace the god damn battery. If there was some kind of bulky "shell" that had enough room inside for any arbitrary micro computer and a good quality screen, keyboard, and touchpad to interface with them it would be perfect. The hardest part about making that kind of stuff yourself is that it's not electronics, it's materials and construction. There's a video of some guy making his own little wooden laptop shell for the raspberry pi and a 7" screen and the number of specialized, huge, and expensive workshop tools he used was astounding.

fuck lenovo for making such shit laptops. Is it not possible to take something like a t40 chassis, or hell even something newer like an x200 chassis, gut it and replace the internals with a newer mainboard with an i7 chip but leave the outside the same?

fuck huge meme touchpads, fuck 1.5 inch bezels on the bottom of the screen, fuck that shitty plastic, and shit keyboard. even the "retro" thinkpad didn't even have a thinklight

>>890812

Well yes, chinese have been doing that for years and selling their mods through FB and other forums (some even through ebay) for years...

Which linux distro work best out of the box with x220/x230s?

>>890839

>some even through ebay

Please do tell.

>>890223

Fuck my life, all the 14" T60's have XGA screens. I did manage to remove the SVP on the R61 however.

And I sold the T400!

king manchild does it again!

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=nRVJCtREW38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRVJCtREW38

>>891011

inb4 701 prices going up by 200% because LGR made a video about it

>>890534

Except it wasn't, it was in awful condition.

>palmrest cracked

>backlight failing

>no HDD

And on and on. Board POSTs fine however, so I just swapped over my own, BoD suffering T22's parts to it.

>>891034

Here's a question though, should I keep the 15" XGA T60 I have? It's in pretty good condition (not as good as my main T60 however) but has the GMA950 board.

What about Libreboot for maximum freedumbs? Or swap the 14" X1300 board into it and reverse?

>>891011

>>891033

I have a butt tonne of Thinkpads from all eras and I am selling off to acquire some older ones. There are powerful bidders after any 800 series on TAS especially if it comes with media and such. I'd be willing to pay a going rate for one, up to a couple grand probably for a great unit with all the swag.

>>890246

Which, however, is rather dim. Next step: Hydis FlexView UXGA with a LED backlight swap!

>>890839

where exactly can I find these? anything specific I can look up on ebay? It's be nice to have something like a x270 mainboard with the same chassis as an x200

>>891401

Do all T60 screens become yellowish with age?

>>891815

I guess it's due to the backlight aging, gotta say my 15" SXGA+ T60 looks far more yellowed than the one in >>891401

>>891826

What can be done to restore it so it doesn't have the yellowish tint? Can the backlight be replaced? Or a whole panel only? Are new replacement panels that are compatible still available?

Will "classic" Thinkpads (i.e up to and including x220/t420/t520/w520) die after 2020 due to a combination of failures (and scarce/expensive replacement parts), poor performance, and non-existent support in newer operating systems (e.g. lack of drivers)?

>>891845

Just replace the whole panel, it's super easy. I did that with my X220 after it started getting too many bright splotches.

>>891847

No

>>891852

They're already dead due to the fact that they have Intel processors in them. Nobody wants to touch that shit anymore.

>>891847

>"classic" Thinkpads (i.e up to and including x220/t420/t520/w520)

Is XP the OS with the most power efficiency/battery life potential on these laptops? Linux is notorious for poor battery life, and Vista/7/8/10 is probably too bloated.

>>891858

>the corporate world has abandoned WINTEL (or will anytime soon)

>>891850

You mean replacing the whole lid part? Because to swap just the actual panel you need to take the lid apart (which supposedly isn't as straightforward as swapping most components in the base part).

>>892215

Can confirm.

t. took apart a T60 for no reason in the end

>>874514 (OP)

Anyone got experience for the T440s/P's bezel tightening?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-lenovo-Thinkpad-W500-T500-Motherboard-60Y3779-60Y4479-ATI-FireGL-V5700-512M/111805983346?hash=item1a0827ea72:g:fZEAAOSwA4dWLGsC

Will this fit in my Non-AMD graphics t500?

>>892470

Yes and no, it will fit but you will need a new cooler.

>>892536

You can't use Libreboot with a AMD board however, so if it's maximum freedumbs you want stick with the stock T500 board.

>>890812

>Is it not possible to take something like a t40 chassis, or hell even something newer like an x200 chassis, gut it and replace the internals with a newer mainboard with an i7 chip but leave the outside the same?

Normies would hate it and not buy it (because "clunky" and "outdated" and whatnot). Lelnovo caters to mainstream and doesn't care about basement dwellers who buy their used gear 5 or 10 years after release. They did do what they did back then it was mainstream, now crappy shit is mainstream and normies like it so that's what they do.

>>892536

Cool was gonna buy a new one anyways. my fan makes an awful rattling noise that i can't seem to fix.

>>892538

wrong, You can't use AMD graphics on a libreboot switchable graphics board you have to use integrated. This is ok because I want to go with coreboot on this board anyway.

>>892538

https://libreboot.org/faq.html#will-libreboot-work-on-a-thinkpad-t400-or-t500-with-an-ati-gpu

>>892884

Must've confused it with the ATI T60's, my bad.

>>892810

I have chinese batteries for my T2x's and they're not bad, Sanyo cells so it will wear like crazy however.

>>892212

windows xp is a security disaster at this point. windows 7 runs fine on those.

>>893009

What is horrible about it? It just werks, and can be debloated very effectively off the little bloat it has (as opposed to later Windows versions).

Ended up selling all my T60's to make room, thinking of buying a high end T60p next.

>>893374

>T60p

What are the best Windows 7 x64 drivers for the ATi FireGL 5250 that the T60p has? Lenovo doesn't provide an official 7 driver, the Vista driver works but is outdated, and generic Radeon drivers mobility-modded to work with the FireGL seem to have problems with power management.

>>893477

Vista drivers work fine for me on X1300 equipped T60's, I never tried Mobility Modder'ed Radeon drivers so I can't answer that, sorry.

Thinking of getting a P50 or P70, or should I just upgrade my desktop to Ryzen and stick with the CF-31 I have now?

There's literally only one person selling corebooted thinkpads in my country and it's a X230 8G ram, 240G SSD one for about $330. Am I gettin ripped off?

>>893626

Definitely, just get a X230, a RbPi or CH341A and flash it yourself.

>>893486

https://link.marktplaats.nl/m1258756608

P51 for 1100€, should I go for it or should I just get a W540 and be done with it?

>>893626

>>894033

Get older Thinkpads, the ones you're considering are black Facebook machines.

Thinking about a Pentium 3 TP at my thrift shop for $20.

I don't know why I want it.

>>894042

Yeah i'm downgrading to a T60, thanks anon!

Of course not you fucking faggot, ThinkPads might be shit now, they're still miles better than consumer laptops.

>>894059

Do it, my first ThinkPad was a T22 and I still have it, 3 years later.

>>894113

What is its configuration (hardware/OS) and how useful is it nowadays?

>>894118

It started out life like this in 2015:

THINKPAD T22 2647-B9G

PIII 800MHz (256KB), 128MB RAM, 10.0GB HDD, 13.3 XGA(1024x768) TFT LCD, 24x-10x CD-ROM, Intel combo, TV out, Li-Ion battery, Windows 2000

Before I took it apart it had a 14.1 XGA screen from a T23, 512MB RAM, 1 GHz CPU, a DVD/CD-RW drive.

What I do? Fuck around with Windows 2000 and Office and maybe play some 95-98 era games. Thinking of installing Deus Ex on my X32p just for shits 'n giggles, but I should replace that resistor first so I can OC the living fuck out of that Radeon 7500.

>>894146

Buying them from amazon is a gamble though (in a way just like ebay I guess). You might get an original one in packaging just as likely as a cheappo chinese copy.

>>891847

>scarce/expensive replacement parts

Parts are still made in China.

>poor performance

People

>non-existent support in newer operating systems

Works fine in Win10 (supposedly the last Microsoft OS for plebs) and they will always work with various Linux distros.

>>894410

>Works fine in Win10

How far back can you go hardware-wise though? Are the Win10-compatible drivers for all devices of a T60 for example?

>they will always work with various Linux distros

Linux has drivers for literally everything all the way back to 1985?

>>894146

>testing it out at a local cafe.

does the wifi card support monitor mode? if it does you can snoop on all the lusers on unencrypted wifi.

>glossy low resolution screen

get that shit replaced dood

>>894438

> if it does you can snoop on all the lusers on unencrypted wifi.

Not if the hotspot is configured correctly. And if whoever runs it really knows his shit and is unscrupulous, it might be a honeyspot where anyone who connects to it is a luser to begin with.

>>894437

It does outside of the ATI Radeon X1300 driver, which works fine in Win10, but you can't adjust the settings at all. There is an unnoficial driver that fixes that issue though.

>>894438

I will soon enough. Though my T500 has a matte screen, the resolution too is 1280x800. I switch to multiple desktops on my T500, but I'm getting tired of that. I think you can get a 1920x1200 panel for it but I haven't looked in a while.

>>894614

You can, if it's a 15.4 model.

>>895616

Your RealHand™ Silicone Male Masturbator (with Painted Nails option)?!? Nice!

What is the main reason to use Libreboot over Coreboot? It looks like Coreboot is more active. Also, these are totally spartan BIOSs. Am I to assume things like VT-x are already enabled, or is the pozzed blob shit which has been excised? The hardware clock was fucked on my first boot and I get some i915 error which appears to be benign. I've also noticed grub is now on the BIOS, but I'm not sure what to change in order to have it boot an encrypted boot partition. I assume all changes you make, you have to recompile the ROM and reflash? Is this correct? It's a little confusing.

Are there any toughbooks that can handle Machine Learning with external GPUs? (GTX9xx or higher)

>>895630

Coreboot/Librecore, Libreboot is pozzed by a tranny

>>895618

>>895629

I made 1 post and got 2 misogynistic insults. Talk about a 2 for 1 special. I betcha guys get laid as often as you use Microsoft Edge, huh?

>>895675

No, not really. Even though I can run a GTX1050 on my 31 Mk3 it's far from optimal due to sub par cooling and ExpressCard 2.0's relatively low bandwidth.

>>895683

Misogynistic is towards women, ACTUAL women. Get some help and stop pretending to be what you're not.

>>896148

I sincerely hope that T22 was suffering from the BoD when he did that.

>>895683

stop assuming our gender

Which trackpoint cap do you guys use? I stick with classic dome.

https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom

Would you buy these thinkpads? Which?

>>896330

x230?

>>896342

If you buy them on ebay you are always going to get the shitty TN display, the chinks take the good screens and sell them seperate for outrageous prices. try and find a store that sells used laptops or look on classifieds for one with a good screen.

>>896330

Off-topic, but as a guy purchasing a thinkpad myself, I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of a good drawing tablet for such things?

>>895683

It was a joke, not an insult, and it wasn't misogynistic. If you can't handle the bantz, don't photograph your hideous tranny claw when you're supposed to be showing that your computer came in the mail as opposed to coming in the male, which is what happens when your bf nuts. Better yet, just fuck off back to whatever safe space spawned you.

>>896762

Why did they even bother to call that a Thinkpad? Other than the titmouse, it looks entirely like any random HP craptop.

>>896852

Thinkpad name is even more of a buzzword now, that's why

>>891847

all silicon dies, but electrolytic capacitors die faster

use a power surge board to help prolong components

>>896762

I would honestly rather buy a Macbook than that piece of crap. Even the shitty new ones with the meme touchbar. Lenovo has dumpstered the ThinkPad name.

>>896822

>what are you talking about? my T60 is AMD and it's librebooted just fine. or am i just retarded and librebooted wrong so that the bootscreen says its libreboot but really isn't? don't scare me anon \o/

Then you must be running non free firmware.

>why is T2x so popular? I see it on here all the time, isn't it just a more ancient T60 but with shittier driver support?

Since a T22 was the first ThinkPad I bought, I guess. Actually, it's beside me updating AntiX which I just installed.

>buying a high end version of a t60 is pretty useless since they're always going to be slow as fuck.

Big fucking deal, FlexView is awesome!

>>896852

It's a brand name that the Lenovo company wishes to use! That's why it's a Thinkpad branded Lenovo computer.

https://link.marktplaats.nl/m1274807326

This X61 can be yours for only 240$!

>>896148

>dat clean cut

Could still pass for "minor scuff/scratch" on fleabay

>>896822

>t60 is pretty useless since they're always going to be slow as fuck

Should I set my acceleration method (for my older thinkpads, T42 and T60) to glamor or something else? Which one would maximize performance?

>>896873

you're just a poofter mate

>fetched all the downloads for a thinkpad model from lelnovo site with wget

>used a regex expression to avoid dowloading all the language versions of the "rescue and recovery" bloat which would have taken 50+gb on their own

>still more than 6 gb of shit, much (if not most) of which probably is redundant bloat that's not even recommended to install anyway

>won't even fit on a single dvd-r

why why why why WHY THE FUCK WHY

WHY ALL THE BLOAT FOR A SINGLE FUCKING LAPTOP MODEL

>>896822

>Egyptian Hieroglyph C021

>U+13072

>there's people being paid for polluting the unicode glyph space with useless and pointless garbage shit

>>897456

>redistributables are self-extracting archives that create random directories on C: drive

>>897460

>encoding ancient writing is useless and pointless

Bet you think theoretical physics or advanced mathematics are useless and pointless, too.

>>897608

I don't think encoding ancient writing is pointless, but advanced scientific notation is useful in a way hieroglyphs aren't. Bad example.

Where is that list of the un-pozzed processors? I'm going to the pawn shop

>>897670

>I don't think encoding ancient writing is pointless

Then why bitch about Egyptian hieroglyphs in the first place?

>>897608

Shit like hieroglyphs don't belong in the first 64k of symbols, there's more useful stuff to put there I think.

Retarded turd emojis gobbled up by sjw soyboys and bluehair triggerkin don't belong there either, but that's a whole another story.

>>897707

What do you suggest we put in the first 64 THOUSAND slots of Unicode? What DOES belong there?

>>897728

Will all of the traditional Chinese (a language still in use presently, as opposed to hieroglyphs) symbols even fit into the first 64k along with everything else that is obvious to be included?

>>897748

Basic Chinese characters, yes, they're only some 20,000. All possible CJK characters, no, they're much more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CJK_Unified_Ideographs

Besides, now that I looked into it, the Egyptian hieroglyphs aren't even in the first 64k characters, 13072 there is hexadecimal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Hieroglyphs_(Unicode_block)

>>897697

I don't know, ask the person who did that. There are multiple people on this board.

Comfy with my T540p

What does /tech/ think about the ThinkPad P-series? Thinking of selling my CF-31 and getting a brand new P51 for 1900€

What should I do with my expresscard slot?

>>898080

eGPU?

>>898080

If you use wired ethernet then an ethernet adapter so you don't use the built-in one which is used by AMT.

>>876218

I realize some people have become very attached to Lenovo, but they are not IBM and using their software is like injecting AIDS into your veins.

>>898125

was ibm software better for thinkpads? the only thing i get for my thinkpad is the fingerprint software so i dont have to enter my password in public

>>898088

Besides a eGPU looking cool, I have a proper desktop for such needs.

>>898133

Fingerprint reader is botnet though, the ME can stealthily grab the fingerprint and store it in SPI flash

>>898133

I don't recall them putting adware in their software.

Dunno if it's common knowledge or if it's handy to anyone but I've recently discovered that if I set MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=3.3 and MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=330 games and other applications that require OpenGL 3.3 seem to work flawlessly on an X200 which is only supposed to support OpenGL 2.1. Results may vary but I've had no exceptions to the rule so far.

>>898160

Not adware, bloatware is what they were good with though.

t. reinstalled a T60 with the IBM restore CDs and it came with Google Desktop and Norton AV crapware on it

>>898282

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/05/lenovo_gets_wristslap_from_ftc_for_superfish_adware_debacle/

>>898150

While i disagree with you about intel management engine being able to steal finger prints from my reader

It still doesn't matter because i don't have ME i have coreboot

I just bought a long fan for my T42, should be receiving it soon. Can I directly apply thermal paste onto the ATI chip or do I need a thermal pad? Thanks.

>>898150

That's only true with the newer readers, the old swipe style ones stored the fingerprint on-chip (really a fingerprint of the fingerprint so to speak) and the OS would query the reader itself for verification.

The new ones are just essentially digital cameras and the driver can see the image of the fingerprint, indeed they are botnet.

>>898852

Interesting. So according to what you say the reader hardware would store an equivalent of a password hash rather than the plaintext password itself. Even if it only exposes the latter to the operating system that has the proper driver installed, what's the guarantee that it still doesn't store the fingerprint itself in some undocumented way which can be accessed via some equally undocumented backdoor mechanism?

>The new ones are just essentially digital cameras and the driver can see the image of the fingerprint

Where would the border line be? What are the latest Thinkpad models which still have the "acceptable" fingerprint reader?

On a somewhat related note, what to make of the TPM module? Is it ok to use it, or is it botnet and should be disabled in BIOS (there are two levels of "disablement" IIRC, one exposes the device to the OS but purportedly disables its function, while the other hides it completely)? Should your cryptography be considered compromised if you rely on a TPM chip to "assist" it? Is the ME going (or has already in the newer models) to take over the TPM's functions?

>>898862

>Interesting. So according to what you say the reader hardware would store an equivalent of a password hash rather than the plaintext password itself. Even if it only exposes the latter to the operating system that has the proper driver installed, what's the guarantee that it still doesn't store the fingerprint itself in some undocumented way which can be accessed via some equally undocumented backdoor mechanism?

These devices had very limited on-chip memory and a super limited CPU, until they became mere digital cameras anyway. I don't think they are botnet.

>>The new ones are just essentially digital cameras and the driver can see the image of the fingerprint

>Where would the border line be? What are the latest Thinkpad models which still have the "acceptable" fingerprint reader?

Anything with Validity will pass an image of the fingerprint to the OS, before that they were the old kind where they OS would query the reader.

>On a somewhat related note, what to make of the TPM module? Is it ok to use it, or is it botnet and should be disabled in BIOS (there are two levels of "disablement" IIRC, one exposes the device to the OS but purportedly disables its function, while the other hides it completely)? Should your cryptography be considered compromised if you rely on a TPM chip to "assist" it? Is the ME going (or has already in the newer models) to take over the TPM's functions?

I think the TPM module would be worth using in an older machine, in a new one it's probably an on-CPU type arrangement and is thus hooked into the ME in some more influential way. It seems the consensus is they're slow on a modern machine but if you have an older Thinkpad it might be worth using.

>>898845

Pretty sure you need pads.

Oh, and install tpfancontrol.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Notebook-Service-and-Support-Satisfaction-Survey-Who-has-the-best-laptop-service.299092.0.html

HAH! LelNoPo BTFO by the Germans!

Holy shit:https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/dell-precision-m40-workstation/848328695-278-1436

Now that's a rare one, I haven't seen a good pic of a M40 until now!

>>874777

Dress like a highschooler in a large high school and go to the library at lunch break, if you are lucky they have laptops there for the students to study with.

this method works i stole 3 x260's at the same time with it

>>875200

Libreboot support and spill resistance, you don't get that.

Straight up infiltration shit yo

>>899132

Ok. So what do you install your Slackware onto?

This is why I love seeing halfchanners fail at computers- I mean Toughbooks:

https://warosu.org/g/thread/S65561551#p65563426

Bet that faggot didn't even read the InstallGentoo page, let alone the threads on Notebookreview or Toughbooktalk

>>899087

Thank you. Do you know if all the T4x screen assemblies are compatible with each other? that is to say: Would I be able to retrofit a T40 "head" onto my T42?

>>899398

I retrofitted a UXGA IPS panel into a R50e with R52 ATI motherboard so it should work.

>>899399

That's great; I'll be able to get a 1400x1050 panel for dirt cheap. How is the R series? I only own an R31.

>>899402

Rseries before R5x is trash, Acer built. R5 and up are IBM/Lelnopo built and quite good if you're a super poorfag, I guess.

>>876046

>>876101

16:10 is 4:3 with 10% of total width added on each side. Example: 1600x1200 -> (160+1600+160)x1200 = 1920x1200

16:9 is 16:10 with the top 10% of height taken away. Example 1920x1200 -> 1920x(1200-120) = 1920x1080

Caveat: wider screens are more profitable to manufacturers and sellers than more square-like ones. The reason is that the mainstream consumer (i.e. the overwhelming bulk of the target audience) has been conditioned to use the screen diagonal as the single metric of its size (and the wider the rectangle, the larger the diagonal-to-surface ratio, which benefits the manufacturer because a screen marketed as and perceived as the same size is effectively smaller).

>>899404

I see, well, they had me fooled.

I also forgot to ask - should I add thermal pads to the northbridge as well? the northbridge makes contact with the keyboard I believe, so it could transfer some heat to the steel back plate.

>>899407

>tfw no 1920x1200 monitors for that glorious horizontal real estate

Oh well, two 23.5" FHD monitors aren't bad either.

>>899408

No idea, on the T60's it caused keyboard warping/bending so I don't recommend it.

>>899381

an hp workstation

>>899410

But the thermal pad for the northbridge is part of the heatsink for the T60? I've actually taken apart the T60p I have (gets pretty hot because I have a T7600 inside it) and added a thermal pad to the southbridge - the heat gets transferred to the rollcage. I'd recommend it, but you have to take the entire thing apart so it can be rather toilsome for a small reward. I also remove the modem/wifi cards for all my older thinkpads (I use ethernet).

>>899419

>I also remove the modem/wifi cards for all my older thinkpads (I use ethernet).

That's pretty much swimming against the stream, given the majority of people does the opposite thing and drops usage of wired ethernet in favor of wireless-only.

>>899407

Why does everyone claim that a 16:10 T60 is inherently "worse" than the 4:3 one?

>>899407

>the wider the rectangle, the larger the diagonal-to-surface ratio

Another trope that favored the wider screens is that 4:3 is easily associated with long obsolete ancient oldass CRT TVs and monitors, while widescreen is easily associated with a "cinematic experience".

>>899422

The problem is that older cards run incredibly hot. I do have a T60 with the card (The atheros chipset one + it's an intergrated graphics model, these don't get furnace-like). The modem I remove without exception though, no need for it.

I could have sworn I read somewhere that I can have more than 3GB accessible on my T60 with Coreboot, but I forgot what items I need to untick in my config file. Would anyone happen to know?

>>875715

>Always wanted to try libre/coreboot. I'm looking @ the requirements and it seems i'll need to install a chip to flash?

You need a BeagleBone (or Pi, etc), Ponoma clip (8 or 16-pin), a 3.3v PSU and some wires for the flashing. No chip to install unless you're referring to the WiFi card. (Atheros AR5B95 to replace the Intel one)

>>881251

The part about changing the MAC address is so you don't end up using the same one as the dev machine.

Not really a problem unless you flash 2 of them and use them on the same network.

>>882723

Will it work with flashrom and FOSS drivers?

>>882747

>I'm seriously considering replacing my broken down thinkpad with this.

Another ThinkPad would end up being cheaper in all likelihood.

>There's no other way to escape ((( Intel ))).

Talos II (POWER9) my friend. (hope you have ~$K to spare)

Libreboot also supports an ARM chromebook afaik lel

>>882765

I'm not sure where you read this, but Coreboot only works on the original Cubieboard and Beaglebone. I don't even see a single board computer in Libreboot's list.

>>874624

I recently got a Samsung mSATA for my Lenovo Thinkpad T420. It really is worth the purchase.

>>899527

>>899527

>And what was the Linux equivalent (there sorta was one IIRC) to tpfc which one needs to install for optimal power management etc.?

tlp? http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html

What about all those Windows updates which are listed in the Lenovo dowloads for a given Thinkpad model? Are these updates which are being normally installed anyway, or are those special Lenovo-only updates which are only available from Lenovo?

Also what order of installation is recommended for thinkpad drivers? Chipset installation utility first probably to properly identify all the motherboard devices, and then? Power management driver should be installed before others, or doesn't it matter?

>>899431

Does the modem card get hot even if it's not used at all? The wifi card too? What if they are disabled in BIOS?

>>899535

In my experience, yes - but only the modem (I haven't tried disabling it in the BIOS though). However, The T4x series also doesn't have a hardware switch to disable wireless functionality, so maybe it still generates heat somehow (this is conjecture). The connection stability and speed is pretty bad too -- but I guess most people still want the option of wireless.

>>899550

If it doesn't have a physical killswitch and you don't use it then I guess it's best if you just remove the unused cards as you said you did.

>>899423

No FlexView I guess.

>>899558

That's the only thing? So it's not about the aspect ratio itself, but rather availability of IPS screens?

>>899560

In my opinion, 14" ThinkPads with 4:3 aspect ratios have *the* best form factor. They remain relatively compact while still having large palmrests and full-sized keyboards, and the 4:3 aspect ratio is perfect for text based browsers like Links and (of course) text editing. 15.4" 16:10 is gigantic, and I hear the TN panels are of variable quality.

what's the best high-end thinkpad for hacking?

>>899637

I guess any libre-bootable one.

I NEED MORE BATTERY FOR MY T420

Seriously, everything would be perfect if the battery weren't so shit.

Has anyone tried retrofitting new internals into an old (preferably nonworking) Thinkpad or other laptop chassis? Anything 90s vintage seems thick enough to fit some kind of ITX motherboard and a modern lithium ion battery.

>>899407

Aspect ratio is really a meme. 4:3 is better for fullscreen coding and crap like imageboards, but widescreen ratios are better for using more than one window side-by-side at the same time, which is much more productive 99% of the time.

>>899986

New 9 cell battery and UltraBay battery not enough?

God fucking damn it I hate Ion Storm.

>install Deus Ex non-GOTY/1.002F on T23

>30-40 FPS at 1024x768 low/med settings

>install 1.112FM patch

>game completely breaks and will not launch anymore

Fuck this virtual peer pressure is too much. What do I get, a X201 for 150 or a X230 for 190? The missing HDMI on the X201 is the only thing that's buggin' me.

>>900257

X230 any day, Ivy Bridge > Arrandale

>>900274

Pretty sure anything with a Core 2 Duo can.

>>900274

Anything can run shit software, to run modern software well, 2.4ghz and up

>>900280

>>900295

Is ebay a reliable source for Thinkpads?

>Seller notes: “Excellent ex-business machine fully working and tested by qualified engineers. Professionally installed with GENUINE Windows 7/10 Operating system & license provided under the Microsoft Authorised Refurbisher Program. Perfect use for School, College, Small Business.

>>900307

(maybe I can get it without Windows and install them myself..)

>>900098

The UltraBay battery is only for the s, and the slice battery makes it way too bulky.

>>900307

It's more likely the seller will get screwed on ebay than you. The only thing to look out for, most of these laptops have been previously used by businesses and the BIOS may be locked. The seller should mention it though.

>chink msata to PATA converter worked perfectly

>T42 feels incredibly responsive

Sometimes things go right.

>>900449

This is important. Maybe I should Ask for this. Thanx doge.

My t420 got fucking mutilated by a small child today. Fucking sucks, mang. It was like watching my own child getting slowly mutilated and then snuffed by Cartel members while being forced to watch. The screen got torn off completely. All things considered, though, everything else is fine. I just don't think it's worth the price to get it repaired. Or is it?

>>900528

Nobody cares anon.

Are there any modern (6th gen Intel and up) non-shit business laptops?

Wanted to build a new Ryzen system this year but since Ryzen 2 is a bit of a dissapointment i'm thinking of buying a new laptop instead.

>>900598

Top specd lenovo P series thinkpad

>>900528

broken hinges ? i guess you need a new chassi, no idea what they charge for that

>>900856

Why FreeBSD over OpenBSD? there's a lot of configuring involved with getting FreeBSD to work (in my experience, that is) while OpenBSD works perfectly. Hasn't FreeBSD also dropped i386 support?

>>900857

I've heard good things about OpenBSD but never used it. I've been using FreeBSD since 4.3 so I'm comfortable with it. There are some configuration tasks but in return I get a system that works as expected and it hasn't been problematic for me but I try to only buy well supported hardware.

I haven't heard that yet about dropping i386 but if true then we'll see.

sysctl hw.model hw.machine hw.ncpu

hw.model: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz

hw.machine: i386

hw.ncpu: 1

Still good in 11-Release anyway.

>>900861

Oh, you're right. I remember reading that somewhere, but I should've just thought about it for a second (After all, FreeBSD is server oriented, and a lot of us use old i386 CPUs for our home servers). Have you tried any other *BSDs?

>>900864

A couple of the FreeBSD derivatives like PC-BSD or TrueOS, and only briefly.