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What are the chances of intel ME doing checksums on every file I own and cross-refferencing it with an FBI database?
▶ No.844445>>844459 >>844484 >>845070 >>847283
Zero. Checksums are worthless and so is intel's ME for casual surveillance.
Instead, what microsoft does is embed windows with an analyzer that monitors when an image is added to the filesystem, converts it to greyscale, divides it into sections, and then computes a rough hashlike number to each section. This allows them to match images across formats, size/color changes, as well as minor editing. Windows then stores and uploads this information a little bit at a time across the almost hundreds of domains that windows is constantly talking to. The majority of websites that deal with user uploaded images and files also do this.
I hope you feel better now.
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>>844444 (OP)
>t. cp owner
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>>844445
Is the ME not powerful enough to do what microsoft does?
It's running a complete operating system after all.
I can't imagine for what other purpose they would need ME to run a complete OS with a network stack and everything.
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>>844444 (OP)
it's a proprietary piece of consumerjunk with full access to everything. it can do whatever the designers (or hackers who took it over) want
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>>844445
>store all loli doujins as mirrored images
>intel moloch engine absolutely btfo for all time
Thank me later OP.
▶ No.844497>>844519
>>844444 (OP)
I want to lick that belly
what the fuck does that say about me?
▶ No.844506>>844509
ME has no networking by default. Read the fucking manual, niggers. If it were sending strange packets to Mossad servers, your home router would notice them.
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>>844506
>implying most peoples routers aren't also part of the botnet
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>>844497
that you've never done it before
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>>844509
You can prove that your router is participating in the snooping network. What you do is build your own network logging devices to put on both sides of the router. It is not hard to detect networking data for a computer with ME and no OS installed.
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>>844459
An OS is much easier to program for the kind of hardware management ME does than writing a unique firmware for every laptop model.
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>>844520
If it's so easy to detect, why has it never been detected?
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>>844545
Because it isn't sending anything to mossad servers.
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Stop posting (((porn))), faggot
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what Minix is capable of in such a configuration, thats what the real question is
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>>844444 (OP)
Directly proportional to your likelihood to run for office.
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>>844459
Minix is not a "complete OS" in the same way that Linux/BSD is.
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If ME was truly a backdoor with ring -3 access and networking capabilities, why would the NSA rely on software exploits? They could grab encryption keys and documents from suspects with no effort, yet they go through the trouble to find exploits in the network stack and write software to exploit it.
The truth is that ME is not a backdoor and whoever claims that is a fucking moron.
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>>844623
If any form of security above the CPU level was proven useless, why would people spend billions of dollars on it? Think before you throw insults around.
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>>844623
Not to mention how do you expect the average CIA executive to justify his massive salary subsidized by taxpayers if any information can be obtained using a single exploit? Since when has anyone in the public sector operated based on logic?
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>>844623
>why would the NSA rely on software exploits
So that dumbshits like you ask the same question.
>Politician A: why would the NSA rely on software exploits if they have the ME?
<Politician B: oh my god what you've said makes so much sense obviously this hardware black box that cannot have access to the whole system even tho it's capable/documented to do so.
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>>844664
its a markov chain bot
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>>844446
I never asked that question here, baka.
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What are the chances of op doing some posting of every lewd loli file he owns?
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>>844459
It's much easier to hide the OS recording and sending out data than it is with hardware. Everyone expects windows to send out all sorts of mystery data, so it's easy to hide in a crowd. Hardware exploits are for fucking with iran and controlling politicians, and sending china our classified military data, not for catching dumb pedos, who will eventually fuck up anyways and mark themselves to be rounded up when an agency needs to justify it's existence.
Protip: elitism concerning the everyday usability of linux systems is a very deliberate controlled opposition campaign, eagerly and endlessly echoed by social defectives that actually believe that a command line is an adequate way to control the computer. This keeps linux (which is harder to control,but not impossible) out of the hands of everyday people through the simple fact that it is repulsive to use.
This is less of an issue now because the rise of "smartphones" put the nail in the linux market share coffin while at the same time making surveillance a shitton easier.
>>844484
You are a moron if you think they haven't accounted for that. That is trivially easy to check for. Even rotation is simple to deal with if the sections are selected right. Cropping slightly more complicated but also capable of being defeated.
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>>844626
This makes absolutely no sense. You didn't answer the question, you just threw another one.
>>844629
Yeah, ok. They do it for more moneyz. It still makes no fucking sense for them to not use ME and rely on software exploits.
>how do you know they're not using it?
Because we know they've used their other exploits to spy on all sorts of people, so it makes sense that they would also use ME if it was truly available.
>>844664
Most 'murricans and europeans are ok or don't care about massive surveillance. Why would they need to do such an elaborate plan to "throw off" those who care about massive surveillance, if they're not going to believe that anyway?
The amount of mental gymnastics you guys do is fucking amazing.
>>844677
>everyone I don't like is a paid shill/bot
Bravo.
▶ No.844978>>844987
I really dislike how people are conflating the issues surrounding ME/PSP. They're a concern because they could be exploited. There's no evidence of anything actually taking advantage of the potential exploits in the wild. All the tin foil really undermines the actual problem and just makes people worrying about manufacturer installed security holes look crazy.
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>>844978
(((tin foil)))
You took your time getting here, Intel.
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>>844987
Jokes on you, I work for AMD.
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>>844987
>le scary parentheses
>le shill
This board is becoming more and more like /g/ everyday.
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>>844994
Top kek. Is your PSP backdoored by chance? It's obviously able to be exploited. But intentional backdooring is what I mean.
>>845006
I think he did that because calling people tin foil hatters originated with a propaganda campaign for and against the earth being flat. Which was created by a fake jew/kike/babylonian. You have to go back for not being aware of that simple tidbit of knowlege that a easy jewgle search would reveal to you.
>>844444 (OP)
OP it is possible, but it would require a radio device that is consistent across platforms. Like a cellular modem found in phones but very low power. Surely someone would have picked such a thing up testing with an oscilliscope? You have more pressing concerns like TANGO and the atacam submilimeter array. You could just stop keeping files they would care about. Or maybe just printing them all out on a burner printer purchased in cash and then deleting the digital files if you cared so much.
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The ME is a backdoor, but in reality the NSA would never personally spy on you unless if you were a high profile target. If so, use data encryption and monitor packets coming to your router. You could just skip all this and just go with a Bulldozer era AMD processor like I did. I would never trust any machine you didn't personally build yourself. Intel can't possibly predict what Ethernet/WiFi you're going to use automatically.
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>>844445
Will it still do this to a linux install on another drive, but otherwise the same computer? Or would I have to encrypt it?
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>>844444 (OP)
Nice get.
You should be more worried about windows 8+'s built-in photodna and there's no way to disable them completely nor access its working folders (photos and all that metro apps can't be accessed even with highest admin priv possible).
I tried to access those metro app folders but then I ended up finding small thumbnails of screenshots I didn't took without file extension somewhere and it uses SOAP and some shit to send them through skydrive (completely disabled) on some IP of which whois query points to microsoft cloud servers.
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>>844459
>Is the ME not powerful enough to do what microsoft does?
>It's running a complete operating system after all.
Perceptual image hashing at a rate that can keep up with the rest of the OS? It's a single-core 486. No.
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>>845435
>doesn't know winSxS was meant to access unix/linux partitions
>doesn't know about the fake grub password incident
Who would win?
>100kilobytes of malware
>operating system at ring -3 with its very own processor
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unironically kill yourself pedo
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>>845453
There is literally nothing wrong with being a pedophile.
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>>844677
If you had ever bothered to learn some, any programming skills and actually knew what a markov chain looks like you wouldn't say stupid shit like that.
Take your pills, old man.
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>>845494
Through the merits of the brightest polish, ran hither and thither like maniacs, their feet as long as the king became a Muni having his capital and gladden Kunti herself.
A genrated sentence using the Mahabharata as the corpus. Not a fan of streetshitters or anything, it was just a nice massive corpus. My favorite sentence it ever produced was, "Thousands of infurated elephants."
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>>844623
>why would the NSA rely on software exploits
They still have to attack systems which are pre-ME and they might use other exploits for deniability, or to give to spies / contractors who they don't trust enough to grant full ME access to any computer out there.
Think, you sagenigger.
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>>844740
>megumin
reeeeeeeeee
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The worst part is that Intel doesn't even used the AGPLv3 in the ME!
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>>846983
>the AGPLv3 in the ME!
>AGPLv3 in the ME!
You have no idea what the AGPLv3 does.
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>>847030
That's what I said, they ``didn't`` use the AGPLv3 in the ME!
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>>845440
>>doesn't know winSxS was meant to access unix/linux partitions
NIGGER take your retarded buzzword salad spewing back to cuckchan
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>>844445
>converts it to greyscale, divides it into sections, and then computes a rough hashlike number to each section.
>Windows then stores and uploads this information a little bit at a time across the almost hundreds of domains that windows is constantly talking to.
Sounds exactly like how torrents work.
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>>844444 (OP)
>check-sums
>check some
I see what you did there.
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>>844444 (OP)
Those are big numbers
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>>844833
>Protip: elitism concerning the everyday usability of linux systems is a very deliberate controlled opposition campaign
Prove it. In-group elitism about something that only that group thinks is worth doing due to the high cost is everywhere, as it's the basis of much social signalling.
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>>847739
Its actually pretty easy to do shit on linux. Now that I have grown used to it, I find my *nix machines easier to use than my windows computer. Workspaces are a breeze, and they are invaluable for organizing my shit. Being able to install shit through the repos is pretty convenient. Never have to deal with shit like the registry to fix problems. Tell me how this is high cost or bad again?
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>>847739
he's right though although there's already linux mint which is n00b-friendly although mint actually have backdoors.
>>847807
this
>pacman pulls only needed deps and I have AUR
>bonus points for apper/octopi/ubunut software center/discover
>decent wiki and forums unlike some tomshardware "have you tried windows update then turning it off and on again?"or some unreplied msdn and stackoverflow post
>manpages are decent
>no registry/AppData hell
>fallback kernels and automatic file journal fixing
>never worry about force closing some netbios port just to avoid some russian cryptolocker using a fully disclosed CVE to hack winfags who didn't update
>never worry about disabling rdp and remote registry
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>>847834
>although mint actually have backdoors.
Source. They have a nonideal security update policy but there is no backdoors hidden in Linux mint, the closest a backdoor was in a distro was when Ubuntu implemented the Amazon spyware
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>>847836
If you care then see it for yourself. There's plenty of sources saying it doesn't have backdoor.
They mask backdoors as user-experience and data collection and AFAIK it cannot be turned off on mint.
Just look for your router logs. Also, linux itself is backdoored.
Everything is insecure, even RNGs unless you go full cypher/crypto.
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>>847841
>Also, linux itself is backdoored.
Stop shitposting.
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>>847834
Linux Mint should never be recommended to beginners when there is Ubuntu. The differences are superficial but the amount of support and documentation for Ubuntu is an order of magnitude larger. I would also recommend Ubuntu to experienced users for the same reason.
▶ No.848546
None. Intel being abandonware makes it pointless