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 No.1062852>>1062862 >>1063023 >>1071729 >>1071909 >>1072031 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

How do you feel about the future of "GNU/Linux"?

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 No.1062862>>1071877

>>1062852 (OP)

It really kills me that systemd is an entire layer of GNU+Linux now. It really does.

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 No.1062863>>1062881 >>1062944 >>1063973 >>1071762 >>1071899 >>1072118

It will be abandoned pretty soon, as Android will cease. OSX is crap and so has become Windows.

Future OS is Fuchsia, a fourth way, unfortunately made by Google.

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 No.1062881>>1071743

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Like >>1062863 said. Except I don't think it'll be "abandoned" rather it will remain in limbo forever as a platform for everyone (Microsoft Google, various standards consortium.etc) to draft experimental software concepts and draft prototype software design standards on before being pushed to commercial software. Meanwhile on the commercial side everyone will have their own in-house kernel with some GNU/Linux compatibility for workflow reasons but nothing else. Basically the idea of "GNU/Linux" as a distinct OS/platform is dead. Rather its now seen as a reference OS on paper only. At least in the eyes of companies

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 No.1062944

>>1062863

>google fucks ya

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 No.1062950>>1062963

I have no problem. Linux continues working and GNU continues working. They remain free software and all is good.

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 No.1062963>>1062964

>>1062950

>and GNU continues working

Hurd 1.0 never ever

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 No.1062964

>>1062963

Yes that's right. At the moment they don't have enough programmers writing drivers for Hurd. The applications that go above the base OS layer are also incomplete. It's sad but that's the investment going into Hurd.

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 No.1062992>>1062995

Fuchsia is just an experiment at the moment, even Google admits it. It might be another Plan9 in terms of eventual adoption.

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 No.1062995

>>1062992

Watch this funny video for updates on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6omOxkGr4

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 No.1063011>>1071650

> How do you feel about the future of "GNU/Linux"?

Fucked hard by SJWs who were outed early as being sent by Microsoft and Google to destroy the open source community but everyone joined them anyways.

"Free Software" and "Free Minds" used to go hand in hand with each other, now it's everyone has to believe what your corporate masters tell you or you get banned from everywhere.

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 No.1063016>>1063017

Aside from the whole systemd problem, I think it's otherwise progressing along fine. Advancements and new software continue to be made. Microsoft's stranglehold is loosening.

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 No.1063017>>1063904

>>1063016

Apparently you missed the memo, everything is botnet and the jews can read your shadow file.

No, he's right. There's a lot of garbage projects like systemd as more people who don't really belong in tech work in tech as the field is expanding, but there's also a lot more alternative projects that are much better than the mainstream choice. In general I don't think there was ever as much choice regarding software. You just need to get away from the normie and mainstream options that are made for idiots that can barely tie their own shoes. Sadly, as most of /tech/ doesn't really know anything about tech they prefer to whine around here instead. They basically want the alternative option to feel special but they don't want to have to know anything or really do anything themselves. Perfect systemd users, really.

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 No.1063020

Linux will die later this year guaranteed. So I think the few people who are abandoning this cursed OS will switch to the BSDs

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 No.1063023

>>1062852 (OP)

Technology is dead. Take the Kaczinsky Pill.

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 No.1063024>>1063040 >>1072116

When are Red Hat/Poettering going to make their own kernel?

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 No.1063040

>>1063024

they don't have to because they already got linux

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 No.1063904

>>1063017

>everything this man says is true

Shit man, might as well just use Temple OS at this point.

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 No.1063973

>>1062863

>GoogleOS

Please no.

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 No.1064000

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OP thanks for info graphic

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 No.1064001>>1064006

why in the hell would GNU or Linux ever be abandoned? that is ludacris

"android will cease"

what? what in the hell is gonna replace android any time soon?

html5 just came out, and you're saying these things?

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 No.1064006

>>1064001

>He's very confused, he doesn't know.

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 No.1064007

great thread...thanks guys

we need more systemd truthers

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 No.1071650

>>1063011

>not having a FOSP (free and open source platform)

Think of it like forum but without the CoC cuckery and being distributed with the ability to host a node in the net of nodes.

This is the future.

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 No.1071729>>1071876

>>1062852 (OP)

Plan to install GuixSD once I finish exams and have some time to spare. Looks promising.

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 No.1071743>>1072099

>>1062881

You ever seen a server? Find me one on windows

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 No.1071762>>1071879

>>1062863

Goddamn burgerclaps and too lax anticompetitive laws

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 No.1071791

more diversity in programming, finally

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 No.1071821

no future unless you go full terry

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 No.1071876>>1072010 >>1072020

>>1071729

It's great, but you have to go through pain to setup anything.

I wish I could force alsa to be the only thing controlling audio

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 No.1071877>>1071920 >>1072117

>>1062862

Only if you use one of the (((mainstream))) distributions.

Devuan and Slackware are still free of the cancer.

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 No.1071879

>>1071762

They're only a global superpower because you use them too.

Stop blaming the US for your own weakness.

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 No.1071890>>1071920

install bsd

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 No.1071899>>1071909

>>1062863

I actually want Fuchsia to succeed. It uses microkernel architecture with namespace concepts from Plan 9 (this triggers a certain individual) and capabilities. It'll also just implement a subset of POSIX for backward compatibility (called POSIX lite).

Here's some good reading about it:

Namespaces: https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+/master/docs/the-book/namespaces.md

Dot Dot Considered Harmful: https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+/master/docs/the-book/dotdot.md

>But it's GoogleOS

The source code is available under permissive licenses, maybe someone or some group will be capable of salvaging the useful stuff, like we have custom android ROMs today.

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 No.1071909

>>1062852 (OP)

You mean "systemd/Linux"?

>>1071899

Looking at Fuscia's cock:

> Sustained disruption or derailing of threads, channels, lists, etc

I can guarantee that the person who continually disrupts threads whenever "rule of thumb" is brought up because "it's sexist" will not be punished.

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 No.1071920>>1072119

>>1071877

Slackware sadly was forced to include (((pulseaudio))) because (((bluez))) 5 requires it.

>>1071890

OpenBSD.

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 No.1072010

>>1071876

Well I figure I'm going to have to learn Scheme to be able to do anything useful with it. But that's half the fun really.

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 No.1072020

>>1071876

Gentoo does it by USE=-pluseaudio alsa.

>inb4 cuckfox

For icecat, use apulse

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 No.1072031

>>1062852 (OP)

The Zionists have infiltrated the project, sorry for you

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 No.1072078>>1072079

Would a github based linux be good? As opposed debian or arch mirrors, have a package manager that does git pulls.

Instead of recompiling sources all the time and hoping the system doesn’t break, just modify the source how you want then do a commit.

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 No.1072079

>>1072078

>github

Fuck no, microsoft owns them now. If you meant based on the git protocol then again fuck no because SHA1, the hashing mechanism used to verify all git commits, is completely broken.

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 No.1072099

>>1071743

stackoverflow

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 No.1072116

>>1063024

It's IBM/RedHat/Poettering at this point.

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 No.1072117

>>1071877

Corporate/enterprise environments use only RedHat/CentOS, Debian, or SLES, so any "professional" setting is now 100% systemd (and has been for years really).

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 No.1072118>>1072198

>>1062863

Fuchsia will be about as successful as OS/2 or Plan9.

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 No.1072119

>>1071920

>bluez

Why include poetterware rather than dropping BT support? OpenBSD doesn't support BT.

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 No.1072198

>>1072118

Don't insult OS/2 like that.

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