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This VPN that is being advertised here is a honeypot and Jim is cooperating with glowniggers by being sponsored by them.
▶ No.1048240>>1049721
>makes attention whoring thread
Where are the proofs, huh?
▶ No.1048241>>1049638 >>1049678 >>1050069
All hosted vpn providers are honeypots you dumb fuck.
▶ No.1048265>>1049514 >>1049538 >>1049593 >>1049637 >>1049672 >>1049678 >>1049769 >>1049774 >>1049828 >>1049833 >>1049837 >>1049972
All VPNs are MITM botnets.
The internet is already ran through a encrypted tunnel (https), there for the entire fucking point of a VPN is literally pointless, what can happen with a vpn is it possibly breaking TLS and shitting all over your internet security.
It was always a cia/nsa/mossad scam from the start. Stop beliving in magic cure all central services they have nothing to gain from keeping you "secure" but they have everything to gain by lying.
The fact anyone thinks a vpn is a good idea is fucking hilarious.
▶ No.1048267>>1048308 >>1049554 >>1052188
Theres no reason to value privacy anymore, GIVE UP!
▶ No.1048282
This is a good thread OP. Well done.
▶ No.1048308>>1048314
>>1048267
>*greedy rubbing sounds*
▶ No.1048309
If you're still seeing advertisements on the site you're probably retarded.
▶ No.1048314>>1048438 >>1049554
>>1048308
You fail to realize, THEY WON! IT"S OVER!
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▶ No.1049496>>1049502 >>1049550 >>1049678 >>1049692 >>1049730
VPNs gained popularity when burgerland and its dominions started groping people who torrent Hollywood&Co's media products. Getting someone through a non-complying country was a lot more work than handling an automated system that sends e-mails to ISPs. However, their current advertising capitalizes on post-Snowden fears, and they are made by absolute imbeciles who wouldn't be able to secure their asses from their own grannies. Yes, your ISP most likely spies on your browsing habits to sell the collected data, but VPN services are made to do the same. Moreover, they provide zero protection against legal process, so it's just bullshit, as the rest of their marketing is.
▶ No.1049502>>1049552 >>1051213 >>1059389
>>1049496
if that were true then why does based PIA not give data to the feds
▶ No.1049503>>1049625 >>1049706 >>1058361
>>1048238 (OP)
why would you ever use a VPN in the first place
▶ No.1049504
>However, their current advertising capitalizes on post-Snowden fears, and they are made by absolute imbeciles who wouldn't be able to secure their asses from their own grannies.
baste and redpilled. this should be the automatic response to any VPN post
▶ No.1049514
>>1048265
>The internet is already ran through a encrypted tunnel (https)
lol tard.
▶ No.1049538
>>1048265
VPNs are good when used for their actual intended functionality (a Virtual Private Network), and they can be an acceptable way to hide your real IP if you set up your own.
That said, most VPN services are certainly a scam.
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▶ No.1049550>>1049678 >>1049698
>>1049496
Pretty much the old privacy by policy and not by design problem. If I'm not mistaken most VPNs are legally required to keep logs on their users for a certain amount of time in case someone comes knocking.
▶ No.1049552>>1049678
>>1049502
They don't give it to the feds they just leave the key under the matt in case the feds need to go to the bathroom(don't worry though they said they'd only use it if it was an emergency)
▶ No.1049554
>>1048267
>>1048314
Your shilling is so pathetic. Die (((jew))). Everybody knows that (((they))) have lost forever, and that We Won.
>>1049545
>>1049547
>posting like a retard
learn to write properly.
▶ No.1049561>>1049571 >>1049678
imagine being so stupid and thinking the vpn is not a honeypot from the beginning
▶ No.1049571>>1049723
>>1049561
>tfw using a honeypot to post on a honeypot about a honeypot you're using while thinking you're not being honey dipped in sweet nectar
FEELS GOOD MAN
▶ No.1049593
>>1048265
VPN is to mask your IP.
▶ No.1049600>>1051032
>>1048238 (OP)
>no proof
Oh did you also know PIA fucked over the FBI because they couldn't provide any logs? They're tried and tested, although that could easily change. Watch out for privacy policy changes. Protonmail recently changed their privacy policy to make it so that any agency that requests it, could log the IP of a specific account if they're suspected of breaking the law, although IP logging isn't turned on by default so the alphabets wouldn't know the IP from which the email account was made, but when this kind of thing happens, it's often a slippery slope, if they can bend to that request, who knows what else they could bend to?
But, no agency will go and step on a VPN provider because you post innocous bullshit or even torrent, it's not worth the hassle to do so, but if you post substaintial threats, that is what TOR is for, it doesn't matter if the director of the FBI himself hosted a tor exit node, they're not going to know who you are unless it's you who fucks up by downloading shit and allowing scripts to be ran. L33t hackers often do VPN > VPS paid with BTC through TOR, arduous, sure, but worth it if you're expecting to look at jail time if you're caught. OPsec is also important, like using a unique username across different accounts (that are variable in extremity), your own full name being used, etc. OPsec fuck ups are often the main cause of "cybercriminal" arrests.
▶ No.1049601>>1049812
>>1048238 (OP)
They're a good vpn but recently they improved the gui and think that validates increasing prices by three times the rates prior.
▶ No.1049603
>jim allows someone to pay to have a thread about a vpn being a honeypot jim is in cahoots with
Jim what happened? Did they fuck you over? Seems like you dont like this vpn for whatever reason and want people to dump it.
THAT OR IT REALLY ISNT A HONEYPOT AND JIM AND THE FEDS WANT YOU USING AN ACTUAL HONEYPOT BECAUSE OF THE CHRISTCHRUCH THING
Just a thought
▶ No.1049604>>1049611
Look for a PAID VPN that is well known and reputable, that has a no logging and it's own DNS.
▶ No.1049606
It's better if it's been operating for a while. Some paid VPN providers might indeed be honeypots.
▶ No.1049611
>>1049604
Pia
Except I can't condone their price hike
▶ No.1049615
Urge felt, saw nothing wrong to post a web address. Then, Agent Smith syndrome confluence by telepathic aliens to cause psyche trauma... Link deleted due to arcturian aliens forcing me to see initials in the link while a person said "beats me," which is reference to a person I wrote about on twitter recently. So yall are now denied the data because the alien wants to bring up childhood punching-bag references
▶ No.1049625
>>1049503
Torrenting and bypassing ISP filtering, mainly. Most people have parts of the internet filtered from them. You can actually view most of the actual internet (and deep-web) with TOR, but it's poor for torrenting.
▶ No.1049629>>1049640
>>1048238 (OP)
Ironic this one VPN that's advertised on the other one before it has passed the most basic litmus test by not being able to provide information demanded by court order. Won't protect you from anything that glows but it's guaranteed itself for Torrenting which is what you should be using it for anyways.
▶ No.1049637>>1049678 >>1050224
>>1048265
The reason so many sites are https nowadays is because all https traffic goes through the carnivore spying system in the NSA headquarters in canada. The only really safe way to browse is by forcing normal http, as this can't be tracked and doesn't pass through any government systems.
▶ No.1049638>>1049653 >>1049678
>>1048241
This.
All VPN's are compromised you stupid fucks.
They only way to be truly invisible online is to steal some niggers WIFI.
http://ano.lolcathost.org/thumbs//1271155663865.jpg
▶ No.1049640>>1049641 >>1049678 >>1049815
>>1049629
Are good vpns alkaline?
You fucking idiot nigger.
▶ No.1049641
>>1049640
>lol only chemists do litmus tests
▶ No.1049642>>1049647
>the amount of tinfoil hats in this thread
Sounds to me like you guys are latching onto conspiracies because you need something to believe in and give your sad life some meaning.
And I'm posting this with my PIA VPN turned on, by the way.
▶ No.1049647>>1049656
>>1049642
You heard about the new rates?
▶ No.1049653>>1049791
>>1049638
shortwave internet is truly anon
▶ No.1049656>>1049726 >>1050343
>>1049647
Yeah, I'm probably switching to NordVPN once my subscription runs out
▶ No.1049665>>1049670 >>1049675 >>1049678 >>1051032
every VPN is a scam
if you want privacy, use Tor
https://torproject.org
▶ No.1049670>>1049684 >>1049708 >>1049854
>>1049665
You can't post here with TOR. Maybe just text, but no pictures
▶ No.1049672
>>1048265
>he is so retarded he doesn't understand what a VPN is for
Found the nigger.
▶ No.1049675>>1049818 >>1049828
>>1049665
>every vpn is a scam
>shills for a program literally created by thr US govt
>it uses proxies which are less secure, prone to several attacks, and log your data and usage, and hand it off to cia niggers
lol
▶ No.1049684
>>1049670
>You can't post here with TOR. Maybe just text, but no pictures
It's Tor, not TOR. And that sounds like a problem with 8chan, not with Tor. Nanochan, endchan, vilechan, lainchan, and plenty of other places allow Tor posters to post images.
You didn't think this place was actually good, did you?
▶ No.1049692>>1049703
>>1049496
does my ISP know i call their parent a bunch of niggers on the internet?
▶ No.1049698>>1049740
>>1049550
Very much depends on the country. There are VPNs specifically based in countries which do not legally require such logs. If you choose a VPN based in one of the 5/9/14 Eyes, you are a fucking retarded nigger.
▶ No.1049703
>>1049692
they would know that you post here
▶ No.1049706>>1049709
>>1049503
In Australia and NZ 8ch and bitchute along with many other addresses are dns blocked by many ISP since the mosque shooting so there's one reason maybe.
▶ No.1049709
>>1049706
idk if i could trust a vpn provider tho. they could then see all my traffic and do anything to it and it could be operated by glowniggers too.
▶ No.1049719>>1049741
I can verify that 8ch is a honeypot sponsored by glow-worms
I am in a military prison and the VPN that I used advertised here is a trap
They're coming....beware
▶ No.1049721>>1051830
>>1048240
watch out it's part of the loli brigade! run for the hills
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▶ No.1049724
You can use VPN to hide from the immediate prying of your ISP, but thats about it.
▶ No.1049726>>1049790 >>1049813 >>1050343
>>1049656
Nord seems sketchy as shit, it's paying youtubers to shill it now and I don't trust any company that does it.
▶ No.1049730
>>1049496
gee whiz
not a single copyright notice since i began using torguard proxy
anon ia tech prtender
aka a ludite
▶ No.1049731>>1049746
VPN services can bite back if only you act like an utter idiot and post certain materials online thinking you're safe. Remember your isp can still see you're using a VPN and how much data you're sending & receiving. if the ISP doesn't have the key to that particular VPN encryption (which in some cases it does) then, if your habits habits are suspicious and if you have a history of connecting through Tor without a VPN to hide your Tor usage, only then can they zoom in on your ass.
TL;DR
ISP can see if you're connected to a VPN or Tor. They can observe and store the VOLUME of data packets. Don't think you're thoroughly safe on VPN.
▶ No.1049736
I've only just got VPN after 25 years of net usage because of the EU and article 13, the EU can now censor anything they don't like, simple answer I log in from a non european ISP, I've lived my net life since 94 as if everything was being recorded so not fussed about that side of it and i keep a pice of tin foil taped over my camera lens on the laptop and when i fart i try to get it as close to the mic as possible
▶ No.1049740
>>1049698
Once we reverse the tables they're going to be tracked and hunted. *HONK* *HONK*
▶ No.1049741>>1049744 >>1049752
>>1049719
Not glow niggers?
▶ No.1049744
>>1049741
I am in the next cell. They cut my tongue out to silence my free speech. It is all 8chans fault.
▶ No.1049746
>>1049731
you could send some garbage data too to make such tracking harder. only the vpn provider would know where the data goes
▶ No.1049752
>>1049741
The glow niggers did some experiments and produced glow worms to avoid hiring more employees.
▶ No.1049753
>>1048238 (OP)
8chan is a honeypot, the internet is a honeypot, politics are a honeypot, human laws are a honeypot, existence is a honeypot...everything is always trying to get you, because at the end of every road all life has to face death.
▶ No.1049767
/tech/ why are jews always so paranoid? Is it the inbreeding.
▶ No.1049769
>>1048265
>The internet is already ran through a encrypted tunnel (https), there for the entire fucking point of a VPN is literally pointless
In the UK ISPs can block access to certain domain names. Regardless if you try to connect with http or https.
A VPN gets around that. Plus you can red pill the kiddies on leftypol and when the mod gets mad and bans you, you can just switch IP.
▶ No.1049774>>1050061
>>1048265
Nice disinfo. VPN is unrelated to TLS. It's routing traffic through an encrypted tunnel at a lower layer. If you were getting MITM'd your browser would throw errors about mismatch between the domain and the certificate. The only way they could MITM TLS would be to get a cert from a CA for the specific site you're visiting. This is extremely hard to do, and even harder to do it without getting caught.
There are two main reasons to use a VPN. One is to avoid surveillance from your ISP. The other is to avoid websites you visit tracking your IP. You still have to trust the VPN, and there are other considerations like browser fingerprinting. If you require anonymity, use Tor.
▶ No.1049776>>1049786
It all comes down to whether you trust your ISP or the VPN provider more.
Your ISP was set up by people who had connections to powerful people in high places and had to get in bed with the government to be allowed to set up their network.
Where as your VPN was created by privacy nuts and is located in a tax haven with no government like Panama or the British Virgin Islands.
▶ No.1049786>>1049809
>>1049776
PIA is american and regardless, america can access any traffic on the internet they want, regardless of if it's hosted on some island in the middle of the pacific. (ps, the Panamanian government was overthrown by the US in the late 80s, and Panama is basically just an unofficial US colony)
▶ No.1049790>>1050303
>>1049726
>advertising your product is sketchy
just lmao
▶ No.1049791>>1049792 >>1049828
>>1049653
Yes if you want to be truly anon buy a van and drive around with a laptop looking for open WIFI. You'd be surprised at the amount of people that just leave it open. Never use the same one for extended periods of time. Its the only way you can avoid a digital footprint leading back to you. Pretty sure the silk market guy did this for years. He came unstuck because he kept using the same Starbucks WIFI and the were able to pin down his location and arrest him.
▶ No.1049792>>1059390
>>1049791
It was a library, but I'm pretty sure they used other means of finding him (the official story includes a jumble of old forum posts, stackoverflow questions, email addresses etc), and secretly have some next-level NSA technologies and programs to deanonymize people.
▶ No.1049801>>1050227
What do we think about ( to me). the new version of Opera that runs it's own VPN? Last time I used opera was years agoooooo.
Secure or not secure?
▶ No.1049809
>>1049786
The US could access your traffic but all they would see is encrypted data between you and the VPN.
The authorities could ask your VPN to spy on you just like they can ask your ISP. And thats why I said its just a question of whether you trust your VPN or your ISP more.
A big Hong Kong VPN helped the FBI in one case. And it showed their no logging policy was a lie.
The reason why its good to base a VPN in Panama or BVI is because these are tax havens that rich twats have set up for themselves, without the privacy intrusions and government surveilence we plebs back home have to put up with. There isnt a law on the books in those places that allows the government to force a business to record data about their customers. Thats why they can get away with all these illegal tax schemes etc without fear of being tracked down.
▶ No.1049812
>>1049601
their Killswitch didn't work, and had to add a killswitch manually in my Torrent application.
▶ No.1049813>>1050303 >>1050343
>>1049726
>Nord seems sketchy as shit, it's paying youtubers to shill it now and I don't trust any company that does it.
>it's paying youtubers to shill it
>I don't trust any company that does it.
▶ No.1049815
>>1049640
Is english your second language?
▶ No.1049818
>>1049675
Tor is build for anonymity not privacy. I'd rather use software that actually has to be broken or actively subverted in order to compromise the user instead of putting all my hope in the decision of the company running their VPN to not disclose data they may or may not choose to log and may or may not publicly disclose.
Most users fucked over using Tor were either actively targeted by law enforcement, or made severe user errors that compromised their privacy. Either way it was transparent and explained and thus can be prevented with proper education on the user end and keeping up with the software itself. You either go for the software or the policy and I'm not trusting any policy that says they promise to not fuck my ass and all i have to go by is their word
▶ No.1049828>>1049832 >>1049833
The advice in this thread is giving me full-blown AIDS.
>>1048265
>the entire internet runs through HTTPS
>>1049791
>expose yourself in meatspace and use unsecured wifi
>>1049675
>Tor was created by the US govt
<so was the Internet
When did /tech/ go full retard?
▶ No.1049832>>1050648
>>1049828
>When did /tech/ go full retard?
They're called shills and they're nearly everywhere because the masons take everyone down who doesn't let his forum turn into a controlled opposition shithole.
It was always a problem but became unbearable in like 2014 and hasn't improved since.
People are more aware though, which greatly reduces their effectiveness.
▶ No.1049833
>>1049828
also >>1048265 made a good post all in all
▶ No.1049837
>>1048265
Run*
Therefore*
Believing*
▶ No.1049838
>>1048238 (OP)
THE CORRECT ANSWER WAS :
8chan only charges $10 per day to advertise here
Hahahahaha TEN DOLLARS !!
(it's important to realize that a simple billboard advertisement in a shitty part of town in any small American city costs around $35,000 per month)
what the fuck do you expect from a shithole like 8chan?
quality products from quality sponsors?
▶ No.1049859>>1049866
Its a shame this thread is so shit because its relevant news: Purism just announced a partnership with PIA and is praising them.
I'm not doing anything that is illegal in america (except copyright infringement) so if it stops tracking among all levels below federal signals agencies, it's enough for me.
▶ No.1049860>>1049863
theres at least a 50% chance a VPN is a honeypot
use Tails / Tor instead
▶ No.1049863>>1049866 >>1049879
>>1049860
if you think that you're capable of outsmarting the 17,431 absolutely brilliant young computer engineers and analysts who work for the national security agency, then you're even dumber than you appeared at first.
if you have heard of it, they already thought about it and solved the problem a long long time ago.
Tails and Tor ain't shit
▶ No.1049866>>1049877
>>1049863
go away, silly shilly
>>1049859
u 2
▶ No.1049875>>1049899 >>1051032 >>1052072
the concept of a 'honeypot' is ridiculous.
if you're the type of faggot who's looking for a 'secure' channel to engage in online federal offenses, then you're already a fucking douchebag who deserves to do time in a federal penitentiary.
and if you're actually looking for a 'secure, secret mode' to violate the law, then it not their fault that you're so stupid you don't realize that the NSA is capable of intercepting, cataloging, storing, retrieving, and cross-referencing every single thing that happens on the internet worldwide, no matter what form of encryption you are using, whether or not you're using Tor or any onion skin browser or operating system....
Calling it a 'honeypot' simply shows that you're not man enough to assume responsibility and be accountable for your own stupid misunderstanding of the way it really works, as if it's some form of 'entrapment'....
Vpns are no more of a 'honeypot' than making a phone call, sending a text message, logging into Facebook, playing an online multiplayer game, watching a YouTube video, paying a bill online, watching Netflix on a smart TV, using voice activated remote control on DISH Network, using Alexa, having a RING video monitor doorbell, driving through a toll booth in your car, wearing a Fitbit wrist watch or whatever that stupid faggot wrist watch is called... EVERYTHING YOU DO IS BEING COLLECTED BY THE NSA, AND STORED FOR LATER RETRIEVAL...
Everything is a 'honeypot'
PARALLEL RECONSTRUCTION: the sharing of information intercepted and collected by the NSA with other law enforcement agencies, and the subsequent technique of making it appear the evidence was collected through legal means, that didn't violate FISA laws
Just because you didn't get arrested doesn't mean they haven't collected every footstep you've made.
Honeypot, my ass....
You're simply the type of douchebag who thinks you're a lot more clever than you really are, consider yourself to be more of a computer genius than you ever will be, and you're simply trying to fabricate an excuse for why you were so stupid that you would put your neck into a guillotine.
The entire world is a Honeypot
And you're just the type of faggot to fall for it.....
If you're on Tor, they still know exactly who you are and where you are...
And if you've ever come to 4chan or 8chan, you were automatically put onto a watch list.
▶ No.1049877
>>1049866
*in a whiny, pompous, self entitled, effeminate voice*
"Go away, silly shilly. I don't like being reminded that I'm so stupid I thought that Tails OS and onion skin made my footprints untraceable"
▶ No.1049879>>1049884 >>1049943 >>1052037
>>1049863
who would win?
17000 cia niggers vs millions free people who look at the TOR source code
▶ No.1049881>>1049889 >>1049892
is this shitposter just a really bad troll or a really bad shill?
▶ No.1049882>>1051032
Law enforcement doesn't need honeypots
The entire internet is a Honeypot
Every single form of encryption no matter how sophisticated has already been dealt with by the national security agency
Tor is NOT untraceable
The 'darkweb' was created by The Military
Tor was created by the Military
.....and if you're stupid enough to think you can outsmart them, and you want to use a secure network to share or download child pornography, or violate any other federal laws, you deserve exactly what you'll end up getting in the end.....
Because they don't have to arrest you today.
Every time you take the tiniest of steps online, no matter how sneaky you think you're being, every single step is being stored, and can be retrieved at a moment's notice.
and the national security agency will share this information with other federal law enforcement agencies, or local law enforcement jurisdictions...
and you'll never realize what the fuck happened to you once they steamroll you....
You might never even make the connection between your subversive online behavior and the final criminal charges you end up facing. They might be completely unrelated, but it's not them who's going to put you on the radar.
it's YOU who's going to put yourself on the radar
Not a Honeypot, and not an entrapment, and not a conspiracy... It's going to be YOU, your foolish self assuredness and your lack of self-control and stupid decision making process that's going to put a target on you....
And wants that target has been placed on you, it will never go away. And you'll continue to make more stupid mistakes, patting yourself on the back and telling yourself what a computer genius you are....
▶ No.1049884
>>1049879
Q: who would win?
A: law enforcement and the criminal justice system, just like always.
certainly not YOU
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▶ No.1049889
>>1049881
Neither one, Mortimer......
I'm the guy who's simply telling you that you're NOT capable of 'outfoxing' the ones who created the entire system, including every technique you might think you're outfoxing them with.
I'm just being completely honest with you. No matter how smart you think you are with computers, you're way, way, way down at the bottom of the totem pole.
▶ No.1049892>>1049897 >>1049905 >>1051032
>>1049881
Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying you're stupid
Because you're not stupid
You're actually a very intelligent man
You're the farthest thing from stupid................
But the dumbest thing you do is to think you're smarter than you actually are. By thinking you are smarter than the NSA computer engineers, you are doing yourself a great Injustice.
Let's put it this way:
If there were 17,000 of you instead of just one of you, all of you put together still couldn't outsmart the NSA engineers...
▶ No.1049895
PUT SIMPLY :
believing in 'honeypots' suggests that you actually believe there are secure modes online vs non-secure modes, and your failure to realize that the entire internet is a honeypot.
▶ No.1049896
>yes goy dont use goy make my job to track you easier
retards
▶ No.1049897>>1049903
>>1049892
Sir, I believe you are wrong. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of instances where people who have done horrible crimes online have walked. It was stated in the Snowden leaks, for example, that TOR is by and large, untraceable. It is a major PITA for intelligence agencies.
There is a 1 in 2 million chance you will be able to tracked while using TOR. The odds are in your favor, but obviously only using TOR isn't going to save you. Perfect anonymity in this day and age requires a lot of plumbing, but it is achievable.
TL;DR:
Stop shilling.
▶ No.1049898
as if they would allow Tor or Whonix or Tails or a VPN encryption to remain a viable way to defeat them....
Hahahahaha
▶ No.1049899>>1049904 >>1051032
>>1049875
The NSA has serious brain drain with all the good engineers going to SV tech companies where they can double their salary. The NSA can barely keep up with rapidly changing technology. After Snowden, an official investigations found that their surveillance programs had not led to a single arrest or prevented a single terrorist attack. I'm going to call [citation needed] on the extraordinary claims you are making.
▶ No.1049900
using tor on tails is the best option. the more people use it the better
click safest settings, and dont change anything else, just use the default browser window.
if you want to watch youtube use invidious.us, just enable media in noscript
▶ No.1049903
>>1049897
RE: believe I am wrong
I know you are incorrect. It's not 'dozens or thousands'...
it's hundreds of millions
They're not in the business of arresting you, especially not necessarily right away.
They're in the business of intercepting and storing, specializing in cross-referencing, cataloging, grouping and subgrouping, all for the possibility of later retrieval.
Tons of events have occurred that were not stopped, because that's not necessarily their first priority.
▶ No.1049904>>1049908
>>1049899
I never said that the NSA was in the business of preventing crime
But then again, no Police Department or sheriff's office is in the business of preventing crime either... They are in the business of arresting you after the fact
▶ No.1049905
>>1049892
A few ideas that come to mind when it comes to achieving anonymity:
Second hand laptop bought in cash, only dealt with using latex gloves. Connected to a library wifi and hidden inside a book in a book case next to a power outlet = anonymous VPN.
You could also use said laptop to jack wifi and use this method to go online and do practically whatever you want consequence-free, if you make sure to remove the microphone and disable the webcam.
From here, you would connect to TOR and then to your VPS which has no paper trail that could be tracked to you. If you want to take it a few steps further, you could even create an entirely seperate online personality, complete with E-mails, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram accounts to act as a decoy.
▶ No.1049908>>1049910
>>1049904
So what you're saying is you have an ideological stance on law enforcement with no data back it up. Got it.
▶ No.1049910
>>1049908
why don't YOU present examples of cops PREVENTING crime?
▶ No.1049912>>1049917
and here's an example of the NSA:
the Boston Marathon bombing
it was after the fact. that's how they work
▶ No.1049917>>1049920 >>1049923
>>1049912
That was not NSA, that was FBI Boston FO.
They acquired the make and model of the pressure cookers (because they found scraps of them on a rooftop) and retrieved a list from every store in Boston who sold that model. They then asked the stores to hand over the POS-logs and viewed the security footage, and then cross referenced that with the individuals who were present at the marathon until they found their suspects.
They literally requested the public to hand over all footage they had from the minutes before the bombing, in order to find pictures/video of the suspects.
NSA had nothing to do with it as far as I am aware.
▶ No.1049918
▶ No.1049919>>1049921
Just use TOR for normal internet use, it helps the network overall and it prevents tracking
Tails is godtier
▶ No.1049920>>1049925
>>1049917
According to William Binney, it was indeed the NSA who supplied other federal agencies with the data to crack the case, not a cursory crockpot investigation.
And forgive me, but I'll take William Binney's word over yours ANYDAY
▶ No.1049921>>1049922
>>1049919
....says the guy with absolutely no background in forensic data collection or analysis....
▶ No.1049922>>1049928
>>1049921
good thing tails is anti forensic
fucktard
▶ No.1049923
>>1049917
I'd recommend you research 'parallel recontruction', and maybe find William Binney's words about the incident
▶ No.1049925>>1049927
>>1049920
No doubt they HAD the data. They were swamped.
It still took them 5 days make the arrests, and the Boston FO cracked the case without their help.
Clearly you are not a member of the US domestic intelligence community.
▶ No.1049926
>NSA had nothing to do with it as far as I am aware
>as far as I am aware
Egg Zack Lee™
that's the entire point of parallel reconstruction
▶ No.1049927
>>1049925
as if you ARE... lol blow me, videogame boy
▶ No.1049928>>1049929
>>1049922
sure it is...... hahaha
▶ No.1049929>>1049930
▶ No.1049930>>1049931
>>1049929
I'm not a glow-anything
I'm just the one who's reminding you the truth you hate to hear:
you're not as much of a KNOW-nigger as you think you are
▶ No.1049931>>1049934
>>1049930
your mom shit on you while she gave birth now you have autism
▶ No.1049933
By the way, Snowden was just one of 17,000+ analysts
he was low level.. sure, he had access...
but it was the same access as the other analysts
WILLIAM BINNEY CREATED THINTHREAD
you could say that Binney was NOT an analyst
and Binney is the one who said the 'Russian Hacking' angle was a myth from day one
He tested it, and the WikiLeaks emails we're put onto two flash drives
▶ No.1049934>>1049937 >>1052037
>>1049931
you wordsmith, you
▶ No.1049936
https://youtu.be/Sv0-Lnv0d0k
Like i said, im only repeating William Binney own words
▶ No.1049937>>1049939 >>1052037
>>1049934
i have used TOR for over 10 years for normal web use
suck a dick nigger monkey
▶ No.1049939>>1049942
>>1049937
lol @ you dealing with a sluggish turtle, thinking you were a 'secret agent man'
good for you
▶ No.1049940
https://youtu.be/PoeJeWfoSpQ
William Binney doesn't play videogames or watch anime.... So forgive me if I find him more of a specialist than you....
▶ No.1049942
>>1049939
reddit spacing
get out
▶ No.1049943>>1049945 >>1049946 >>1052037
>>1049879
That's the real advantage of Tor. The number of people that use it. There is safety in numbers.
▶ No.1049944
https://youtu.be/M66saPW2Gq8
I guess the real question is:
what technique does William Binney use to achieve a 'secure, untraceable connection's?
so far, he always mentions that every time he goes online, he says "hello" to his ex-colleagues at the NSA, and tells them exactly what he thinks of them.
Apparently, Binney knows that he CAN'T keep them from monitoring him, and he should know...
According to Binney, when you're actually being monitored real-time, the NSA refers to your status as being 'IRONCLAD'.....
▶ No.1049945>>1052037
>>1049943
Lol @ 'numbers'.....
hahaha you seem to think that they're incapable of dealing with large numbers
▶ No.1049946>>1049947 >>1049949 >>1052037
>>1049943
yup
tor is the #1 option
anyone shilling agains tor is a glow nigger, because they never suggest an alternative option, because there are none
▶ No.1049947
>>1049946
there is no option
you said it, not me.....
BINGO
▶ No.1049948
wearing a baseball cap during a bank robbery is a #1 option
lol wow
▶ No.1049949>>1049952
>>1049946
Tails is to Tor
what 'pulling your baseball cap down over your eyes' is to wearing a baseball cap to rob a bank
▶ No.1049952>>1049955
>>1049949
you are a retard and a faggot
▶ No.1049955
>>1049952
I prefer the terminology 'brain injured homosexual'
but thanks for noticing
▶ No.1049960
Lol I've just been fucking with you guys
Everything I said was TRUE
but I was just fucking will you, having fun
I was bored, and wanted to distract myself
I respect your intelligence
Have a good evening
▶ No.1049965
SATURDAY NIGHT ADVICE:
you really ought to watch LivePD on A&E
32 LIVE Camera Crews spread out across America, showing the craziest most unpredictable police calls, live, as they happen
The warm up show (Roll Call) is on now
and the live action begins in 40 minutes
Trust me.... It's GREAT
▶ No.1049966
LivePD is on Friday and Saturday nights
3 hours long (and it goes by fast)
It starts LIVE at 9:00 PM EST
and continues until 12 midnight
▶ No.1049967
My wife and I thought we'd hate LivePD
but we were wrong
it's addictive as shit
It's totally wild, because you wouldn't
believe how crazy and stupid and just
god damn weird people are, and while
you think you know, you really have to
watch it to see exactly HOW weird they
are....
I hated the show COPS
this isn't COPS
this is the absolute best show I've seen in decades
▶ No.1049971
LivePD starts in 7 minutes on A&E
▶ No.1049972>>1049974
>>1048265
If you live in America sure, there's not much reason to use one, but for those of us who are less fortunate and have to live under a government that doesn't protect speech and censors website, there is a case for them.
▶ No.1049974>>1049985
>>1049972
>thinks America protects free speech and doesn't censor
▶ No.1049982>>1049986
i2p... every user routes traffick. Problem solved
▶ No.1049985>>1049988
>>1049974
>thinks america is half as bad even as most other countries; britain, russia, china
▶ No.1049986>>1049988 >>1049996
>>1049982
Did you even try it? i2p can't access clearnet sites, it's hardly a solution unless you want to ignore the whole web.
▶ No.1049988>>1049996
>>1049985
America sucks balls
>>1049986
he just wants to exploit children
▶ No.1049996>>1049999
>>1049986
>i2p can't access clearnet sites
Although it was not designed for clearnet browsing, it is entirely possible to use a volunteer jump service to browse the clearnet through i2p.
>>1049988
>he just wants to exploit children
Why is that the consensus on i2p or any other alternate network?
>>1049989
Fuck you pajeet cow nigger. You're a repeat spam offender.
▶ No.1049999>>1050010
>>1049996
>Why is that the consensus on i2p or any other alternate network?
I2P is pretty good. It has a LOT of stuff in it. Email, IRC, (you can use mumble across the network), is already well established, has a decentralized cloud storage system if you want ot opt into it (Tahoe-LAFS), torrenting, and plenty of other stuff.
I think its one of the better networks around, especially compared to all the new and questionable crap that comes up. At first its kinda slow, but the longer you are online the faster it gets. Torrenting is always going to be kinda slow, but thats not the worst thing. You can also host your own websites pretty easily.
Personally I like it a lot, but I'm a bit biased. I think most "recent" anonymous networks are quite shit in comparison, usually just trying to cash in on some gimmick despite I2P already offering everything and more.
▶ No.1050010
>>1049999
>At first its kinda slow, but the longer you are online the faster it gets.
That's probably a good thing. More participation and bandwidth is a better way to build trust in a network than just jumping in and sending tons of requests.
Just curious though, what is the best way to configure your firewall for that massive network? I bet some prick is nmapping everyone on the network.
▶ No.1050061
>>1049774
you may have just been trolled my friend
▶ No.1050069>>1050079
>>1048241
There might be no-log VPN companies, but it doesn't matter. If they get a court order to start logging everyone, or especially to target specific individuals, they'll start doing so. No VPN company owner is going to jail for contempt because somebody pays them $7/mo.
▶ No.1050079>>1050117
>>1050069
Last time i checked that only applies to American service providers, in some european countries companies are not obligated to disclose anything.
Thus if you're using an american VPN you are stupid.
▶ No.1050117
>>1050079
>thinking American intelligence agencies need to beg for logs
▶ No.1050118
Should I check "Encrypt all Sites Eligeble" (EASE) on Https Everywhere, when using TOR? its off by default. Im using the Safest settings.
▶ No.1050211
They’re not collaborating with hostile governments, therefore I’m fine with them.
▶ No.1050224
>>1049637
https: alphabet soup, website you connect to, and maybe cloudfare can see what you do on websites
http: anyone can see what you do on websites
▶ No.1050227>>1050257
>>1049801
Proprietary software from a company that asks no money for the software? No. How would they make money?
▶ No.1050252>>1050254 >>1050310 >>1050343 >>1050566
Is nordvpn good for torrenting? Iast time torrented a capcom game tje isp sent me a letter, i wasnt using vpn though.
▶ No.1050254
>>1050252
sure use it for torrenting
▶ No.1050257
>>1050227
From service contracts. Normally for support surrounding the issues of using that company's specific software.
▶ No.1050261
>posts on a board where literally anything you mention is called a honeypot with no proof whatsoever
i hope you're not trying to be taken seriously
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▶ No.1050294
Legitimately though, even any absolute halfwit would have to understand that PIA, a VPN that operates in USA of all places, is undoubtedly, irrefutably, completely a honeypot and subject to any and all US laws and agencies.
If it's 2019 and people still hold on to (((some))) kind of (((hope))) that this isn't true, then honestly they deserve to get vanned and pozzed for being so fucking dense.
▶ No.1050298>>1050343
Was it PIA or NordVPN that was caught to be owned by botnet merchants in the panamas?
▶ No.1050303
>>1049790
>>1049813
Hello (((NordVPN)))
▶ No.1050310>>1050316
>>1050252
There is literally zero reason to use VPNs for torrenting when seedboxes exist.
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▶ No.1050327>>1050342
All I know is my ISP stopped sending me copyright infringement warnings once I started using PIA
Good luck with your kid porn OP
▶ No.1050342>>1050344 >>1050560
>>1050327
is this really a thing? i never got any letters when i downloaded things from public trackers
▶ No.1050343>>1052072 >>1052075
▶ No.1050344>>1050349
>>1050342
Are you an Amerimutt?
▶ No.1050349>>1050363
>>1050344
How rude. The proper term is Americlap.
▶ No.1050363>>1050723
>>1050349
No, it's Amerimutt, it's more proper.
▶ No.1050560
>>1050342
They don't mail you a letter, they drop an email in your ISP-provided email account
anon32@verizon.net
nigfag7@comcast.net
etc
If you never check your ISP email you'd never know they warned you
▶ No.1050566
>>1050252
When NordVPN is sponsoring Cenk and the young turds on TYT you know its a compromised company that is no friend to white nationalists and boards like 8chan that allow them to speak.
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▶ No.1050723
>>1050363
I do believe the proper term is Ameriking.
▶ No.1050979>>1050984
Duh. Everything through VPNs is tracked. Everything digital is tracked. As sad as it is that the authorities have no integrity and can’t survive a little sunlight, you shouldn’t be broken criminal asshats anyways. The law of rules sometimes threatens the rule of laws; remember that, and defend the truer form of law even with your private conduct.
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▶ No.1051032>>1051064
>>1048238 (OP)
Buy bitcoin. Send bitcoin to wallet on your burner laptop that you never use to access your home network or any stupid shit like social media accounts. Tumble the bitcoin and have shit sent yet another address on another machine that you don't use from home. Buy offshore VPS hosting that does not log. Install your VPN server on the VPS host. Stop asking feds on 8chan which VPN service to use.
Also of interest.
https://www.dnsleaktest.com/how-to-fix-a-dns-leak.html
>>1049600
Before I comment on this I should my obligatory moralfag disclaimer. Don't penetrate networks and devices you do not have legal permission to penetrate or otherwise access. Now that that is out of the way, there are interesting case studies on how hackers get caught.
I watched a talk where the intruder had used a lot of RPD sessions inside of RPD sessions on systems around the world. But because when you use RPD your printer will show on the end point your are accessing. If the hacker had known this he would have pulled off the hack. It's little details that people miss that will get them busted. Moral of the story, understand the protocols, and applications your are using.
Also most "cybercrimes" have a five year statute of limitations and the backlog on cybercrime is about three years. There are not enough resources to bust people for petty shit and rightly so because it would be a waste of tax dollars. People who hack bankings and develop banking trojans and shit like that are going to have resources thrown at them. Also big companies will have their own incident response team and when they catch illegal hackers they will turn them over to proper authorities. Moral of the story don't hack people who have their own hunt team. You're not fucking NEO.
If you run a Pixie dust attack against your neigbor's AP so you can get free wifi nobody is going to give a fuck 99% of the time. Best bet just ask them for the password. That's the easiest way to get free wifi.
>>1049665
TOR was developed wit DoD funding initially to give Navy personnel operating in countries they were not supposed to be in anonymous network access. Some TOR exit nodes have been known to be controlled by law enforcement or other agencies. There are attacks for deanonymizing TOR users. Here's some inside from wired on something called "operation torpedo". https://www.wired.com/2014/12/fbi-metasploit-tor/
I would also encourage newfags to set up a home lab and learn how to hack. Understanding cybersecurity from an offensive perspective will give you a great deal of insight for keeping your network and devices secure. It will also make you paranoid as fuck when you realize how easy it is.
>>1049875
Exactly! Also keeping in mind traffic with high levels of entropy is more likely to get you monitored than just using regular SSL connection. And if you aren't transmitting anything highly sensitive there really isn't any point.
>>1049882
NSA has a lot of lookup tables for things like prime triplets and their square and cube roots etc that encryptions are based on. Having precomputed tables shortcuts the cracking process. It still takes them time to break encryption. Even with a large compute cluster with, GPU parallelization, FPGAs, ASICs, etc. If you use hundreds of layers of encryption you might get one by as in they can't crack it in a reasonable time frame.
>>1049892
The NSA looses a lot of their talent to private sector. Most of the are purple haired trannies anyway.
>>1049899
Terrorism is an immigration issue. They used it as an excuse to implement domestic spying.
▶ No.1051058
>he actually trusts vpns
ISHYGDDT
▶ No.1051064>>1051403
>>1051032
>VPS hosting that does not log
stopped reading here
▶ No.1051123
>mfw you think VPNs are safe
▶ No.1051146
so we get this shill once a week?
▶ No.1051169>>1052134
All the alphabet faggots flooding with posts that VPN or Tor doesn't matter. MFW they're trying to convince people to not use VPN over Tor because they can't track anyone who uses VPN over Tor(unless you're a big retard with shit OpSec). Use a quality VPN over Tor and you're golden.
▶ No.1051213
>>1049502
>if that were true then why does based PIA not give data to the feds
How do you know they don't? All law enforcement is backed by the coercive power of the state. VPNs are businesses and businesses are required to comply with laws or they get shalom jewed.
▶ No.1051219
VPNs should only be utilized in the case you need a proxy from tor to the clearnet because the website banned tor exit nodes. So something like this:
Tor (sys-whonix, gateway vm in the case of standalone whonix, etc.) -> VPN/proxy -> Clearnet
▶ No.1051243>>1051259 >>1051397 >>1051419
I like how slow and useless tor is, personally.
▶ No.1051258
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▶ No.1051397
>>1051243
I understand why you are attracted to slow and useless things, but Tor is not one of them.
▶ No.1051403
>>1051064
You stopped reading because you are lazy. You missed the part about them being offshore and not required to keep logs. Also paid for in bitcoin from a computer that never touches your home network. But keep using HideMyAss.
▶ No.1051419>>1052196
>>1051243
The Feds are really out in force today. In the Assange thread, too.
> tor sucks, fellow goyim, it's like slow, and backdoored!
>that Assange guy is a really bad dude haha, BASED bongcops, right guize!?
▶ No.1051830
>>1049721
Not before jizzing on
▶ No.1052012>>1052021
I didn't hear anyone discuss software that is compromised by default aka backdoored by agencies or individuals. Like Windows updated versions also who was Mac address spoofing?
And considering you don't have retarded opsec, a no logging offshore vpn that you purchased with a Starbucks gift card will be superior to zero layers. Literally a vpn with no dns leaks amongst the otherfirst potential vulnerabilities will save your ass and determine whether oror not you are worth the ressources to investigate.
Cliffs: Don't be exploiting children or trying toto hack important corporations and you're better off.
▶ No.1052021
>>1052012
>Literally a vpn with no dns leaks amongst the otherfirst potential vulnerabilities will save your ass and determine whether oror not you are worth the ressources to investigate
Uhuh. And VPNs leak less info to NSA and data miners than ISPs because...?
▶ No.1052037
>>1049937
>>1049934
>i have used TOR for over 10 years for normal web use
metoo#
>>1049943
>>1049879
>advantage of Tor. There is safety in numbers.
The more it use the better.
Even better to us it for everything, the most trivial shit.
If you think you can switch on "stealth mode" with the flick of a switch you are retarded. Any change of behavior triggers a flag. If you use TOR most of the time they are no longer able to distinguish important from trivial.
You don't need to use TOR all the time, but do yourself a favour and don't use it only for "important stuff".
Use TOR often and preferable innocent and boring stuff, like looking at the weather map.
>>1049945
>>1049943
>'numbers'.....
>hahaha you seem to think that they're incapable of dealing with large numbers
Yes you brainiac, it costs. It cost non-infinitive resource. It costs computer cycles and storage.
It is best they waste their time on trivialities.
>>1049946
>anyone shilling agains tor is a glow nigger,
Obvious
▶ No.1052039
>>1051473
What the fuck are these files supposed to be?
I'm not downloading random shit that has no identification or explaination.
▶ No.1052072
>>1050343
underrated
>>1049875
>every single thing that happens on the internet worldwide, no matter what form of encryption you are using, whether or not you're using Tor or any onion skin browser or operating system....
Not exactly. The MIL CHICOM quantum interference doesn't come under NSA's remit fully. Everything comes under black ops no budget no problem remit tho. ;^)
▶ No.1052075
>>1050343
This is great, but tbh I'd rather know the names of the vpn shills that spam this board than be able to mitm the worthless faggots who get scammed by their employers.
Shills are pure cancer and eventually every single one of them will have his balls cut off, literally.
Remember that guy from Bellingcat. I wonder how his family reacted when they found how he tried to start ww3 on the interwebs.
▶ No.1052092>>1052095 >>1052189 >>1052195
So what's a good free VPN that actually works?
▶ No.1052096
>>1052095
Never heard of it before, sounds pretty edgy though.
▶ No.1052134
>>1051169
Tor then VPN, or VPN then Tor? I heard that the order you connect in can fuck you over.
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▶ No.1052195
>>1052092
riseup or sigavpn
▶ No.1052196>>1052209
>>1051419
the real problem with tor is how there's fucking nothing on it
and much of the clearnet blocks it
▶ No.1052209
>>1052196
>the real problem with tor is how there's fucking nothing on it
Except for fake Albanian mafia websites run by british Deep State.
Seen them and had that suspicion right away, but here's a report srsly worth reading:
https://www.riskbasedsecurity.com/2016/05/besa-mafia-dark-web-hitman-for-hire-site-takes-a-hit/
>and much of the clearnet blocks it
You mean cloudflare encumbered websites where the admin failed to change the default settings?
Can you give an example of where that's relevant?
Because if its a news website I'll just read the story elsewhere and in the rare case where there is no alternative there are proxies, pici.picidae.net, archivecaslytosk and whatnot.
https://web.archive.org/web/<year>/<url> is pretty cool too, you don't need to enter the full timestamp to jump to a snapshot.
Btw we should start saging this thread, seems like BO is still a corrupt asshole who will eventually have his identity revealed, just like all shills and their friends.
▶ No.1052213>>1052700
> TOR has nothing on it
Like wtf, maybe you haven’t used it.
Most stuff that happens is between people who have met IRL or on the clearnet and moved ops to TOR for “real work”
And I found some great archives of old media and censored info on certain foreign governments, just need the right tools
▶ No.1052700
▶ No.1058361
>>1049678
Any government can just ask the VPN businesses if they need any info on their users. Also a majority of VPN's log everything. The only way to get a good vpn is to create your own in africa.
>>1049503
torrenting popular stuff when people get paid to report IP addresses seededing the torrent.
▶ No.1058364
not using Tor or something equivalent is a crime against the internet. if there's noone to flex the right to not be identified, the internet will slowly become botnet, as it has as cuckflare took over most of it. VPN is okay but you're putting all your trust into one person who is a capitalist cuck and can be bought
▶ No.1059389
▶ No.1059390>>1059452 >>1059610
>>1049792
Ulbricht was first connected to "Dread Pirate Roberts" by Gary Alford, an IRS investigator working with the DEA on the Silk Road case, in mid-2013. The connection was made by linking the username "altoid", used during Silk Road's early days to announce the website, and a forum post in which Ulbricht, posting under the nickname "altoid", asked for programming help and gave his email address, which contained his full name. In October 2013, Ulbricht was arrested by the FBI while at the Glen Park branch of the San Francisco Public Library, and accused of being the "mastermind" behind the site.
To prevent Ulbricht from encrypting or deleting files on the laptop he was using to run the site as he was arrested, two agents pretended to be quarreling lovers. When they had sufficiently distracted him, according to Joshuah Bearman of Wired, a third agent grabbed the laptop while Ulbricht was distracted by the apparent lovers' fight and handed it to agent Thomas Kiernan. Kiernan then inserted a flash drive in one of the laptop's USB ports, with software that copied key files.
▶ No.1059452>>1059601
>>1059390
why would you ever put your real name in such things and why was the laptop not properly secured
▶ No.1059581>>1059629 >>1059631
ExpressVPN is now being advertised and it is an even bigger Honeypot than this. Seriously it fucking glows.
▶ No.1059601
>>1059452
Because thorough, consistent opsec is hard, particularly when you get comfortable. When your life is mired in illegality, you can never afford to get comfortable for a second. Your life becomes your work. People don't appreciate this until it's too late. Basically, humans aren't designed and born to be Machiavellian robots with infinite patience, and it takes a lot in a life to make them that way. This isn't news to anyone here, and it underscores the point that if you're serious about your privacy, the easiest (and not necessarily the best) way to keep it is not to do anything that warrants notice, and this is the appropriate course of action for the vast majority of people who would contemplate doing illegal things, because they can't into opsec sufficiently to keep themselves safe.
▶ No.1059610
>>1059390
should have been a paranoid sperg like me. i dont even do anything illegal but i always close everything if someone comes close like that and i would also have gone somewhere else because i didnt go there to talk with random weirdos
▶ No.1059629
>>1059581
I'm waiting for ads for IPredator to appear so we can ascend to a higher plane of irony.
▶ No.1059631
>>1059581
i havent seen any ads?
▶ No.1059845
>>1048238 (OP)
Shit. I've got a 12month key from Humble Bundle. Should i use PIA or stick with ProtonVPN?