[–]▶ No.1029370>>1029439 >>1029620 >>1029742 >>1034152 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
I'm still completely in the excited-newbie honeymoon phase, but writing Rust code feels very wholesome.
https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/1094419108781789184
▶ No.1029371
Well for all his talents, he's always been a cuck.
▶ No.1029373>>1029397 >>1029425
This has the potential to be yuge for Rust!
How exciting! How exciting!
▶ No.1029374>>1029376 >>1029396
he looks like he injects nothing but soy
fuck this faggot
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>>1029374
LARPer spotted.
John Carmack has achieved more than you will ever in your wildest dreams.
▶ No.1029381>>1029397 >>1029431 >>1035009
Very interesting. I'd love to see his take on Rust once he's finished a hobby project in it. If I had to guess, Carmack probably isn't the type of programmer who'd be pleased with having his freedom restricted by the borrow checker, but the language, compiler and toolset are fairly mature and it does deliver on its "safer C++" promises for the most part.
▶ No.1029383
>excited-newbie honeymoon phase
fag.
>writing Rust code feels very wholesome.
it's the ML elements that do that. Ever since Haskell, the evil powers of the Earth have been going to the well of Robin Milner's genius, so that they could sell it in a package with their idiocy.
▶ No.1029386>>1029397
Rust actually is a good language tho.
▶ No.1029388>>1029390 >>1029392 >>1029419 >>1036466 >>1058481
Nobody wants to write C++ anyway, it's just the only non-toy language that doesn't also have cum guzzling out of it's mouth.
The ideal language would basically be a re-write of C++ from the ground up to omit legacy shit and other stupid spaghetti that it has accumulated over time, and do small tweaks to syntax and other things to make it cleaner and nicer to use.
The problem is that whenever someone makes a new language they have their own super special snowflake idea based on their personal preferences of what the language should do, so it ends up working too differently.
▶ No.1029390>>1029391 >>1029487
>>1029388
The ideal language is Ada.
But, it probably needs an Elixir/ReasonML treatment to get popular.
Names_Like_This are particular hard to type without editor support.
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>>1029390
>Ada shill shills Ada in a non-Ada thread again
Make an Ada thread already
▶ No.1029392>>1029397
>>1029391
oh man look at this guy
>>1029388
shilling the language imaginaryCplusplusrewrite in a Rust thread
▶ No.1029394>>1029397
If I only wrote C++, I guess I'd feel the same.
▶ No.1029396>>1029397 >>1029596
>>1029374
>fell for the antivegan shilling
Soy phytoestrogen does not disturb us unlike estrogen in milk. We are herbivores.
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>>1029376
>has achieved more than you will ever in your wildest dreams.
>to get bought by jews.
>now he knows it's all bullshit.
ultimate.
life's.
mission.
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>>1029397
Your eye of discernment is ... poor.
▶ No.1029401>>1029567
Y'all hatin' on Rust bcuz you can't get laid, prove me wrong
You can't, I win
▶ No.1029419>>1029424
>>1029388
I don't understand that argument. You don't have to use all that shit. You can write c++ with just c standard libraries if you really wanted to.
▶ No.1029424>>1029426 >>1029427 >>1058588
>>1029419
>you can just not use any features
Yeah, I could also just write C or assembly. The point is making a good powerful language that's comfortable to write and provides features that makes it easy to do things on the low level without bloat like garbage collection getting in your way and without excessively subscribing to some meme like functional programming or OOP.
▶ No.1029425>>1029428
>>1029373
Get out Steve, I thought you said you'd stop shilling.
▶ No.1029426
>>1029424
Only fake soy pajeet tranny cucks need a language with more features than conditional jumps and substraction.
▶ No.1029427>>1029430
>>1029424
>without excessively subscribing to some meme like functional programming
Rust subscribes a great deal to that. What do you think would make it excessive? GC?
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▶ No.1029430
>>1029427
By excessive I mean it's not a big deal if it has support for it, but it shouldn't let it drive the design of the language.
GC is out of the question if you want to talk about C++ replacements. I don't know how obtrusive Rust's baby gloves are but it probably counts as well.
▶ No.1029431>>1029432
>>1029381
>the language, compiler and toolset are fairly mature
Not even close.
>>1029381
>it does deliver on its "safer C++" promises for the most part
Here's how to trigger a memory fault in barely 10 lines:
https://play.rust-lang.org/?gist=11b8cb9088b0f8c36048a54ee293f537
▶ No.1029432>>1029435
>>1029431
>https://play.rust-lang.org/?gist=11b8cb9088b0f8c36048a54ee293f537
Fun story: I made this. It was fun being a Rust shill and pretending to be an anti-Rust shill to bump my threads and bait easy replies XD
▶ No.1029435>>1029543
>>1029432
So how's the sex change going?
▶ No.1029439
>>1029370 (OP)
>honeymoon phase
>feels
>wholesome
lmfao sounds like he doesn't like it much
▶ No.1029487>>1036843
>>1029390
Ada's problem is that there are too many rules for Pajeet to learn. I hope Ada never becomes too popular though, it's quite comfy to program in, and you're not likely to run into many retards using it, by virtue of its relative obscurity.
▶ No.1029552>>1029640
>>1029543
Not really, C++ programmers can be autistic but they aren't shilling for sodomy and dick-cutting mental illness 24/7.
▶ No.1029562
>yet another Rust thread
>not posting in an existing Rust thread
Go back to your >>>/4um/
▶ No.1029565>>1029582 >>1029731
>>1029376
Not really. After Quake, id fell into obscurity and was eclipsed by everyone else. The new Doom isn't that revolutionary, and I don't hear anyone talking about it as they do other games.
▶ No.1029567
>>1029401
Those aren't inclusive qualities. If you had equated can't suck dick because not using rust, then you would have a point because rustfags suck dick.
▶ No.1029570
Poor Carmack is becoming senile.
▶ No.1029582>>1029609 >>1030551
>>1029565
You mean after Quake 3, right?
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▶ No.1029603>>1037048
>>1029376
maybe but hes old now and old people do stupid things
▶ No.1029609>>1029614 >>1029632
>>1029582
What year was that, like 2002 when Quake 3 was released?
▶ No.1029614>>1029631
>>1029609
>he thinks a pre-9/11 game is a post-9/11 game
millennial detected.
▶ No.1029620
>>1029370 (OP)
John "I married a Gook and became a walking stereotype" Carmack cucks again.
▶ No.1029631>>1029635
>>1029614
Whatever, my point is that once the hardware caught up with performance, the actually software didin't matter as much as the textures and other static artwork. Other companies built on this surpassed id.
▶ No.1029632>>1029648 >>1047451
>>1029609
Are you even old enough to be on the internet, kid?
▶ No.1029635>>1029648
>>1029631
they would have more customers if their software didnt need hardware worth thousands.
▶ No.1029637
translation: i am getting paid to write rust
▶ No.1029640
>>1029552
caption it. C++:
>your ideal wife
Rust:
>your ideal self
▶ No.1029648
>>1029632
Sure. Uh huh. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Uh huh.
>>1029635
That's a load. People buy their hardware based on their absolute critical level of autism. They know that if they expect to play the newest games at the highest framerates, highest resoution, highest details, that they are going to need to spend the money on the latest and greatest hardware. This is true for all AAA games, not just id.
id collapsed because they had nothing left. Their talent either moved on elsewhere or dried up. It happens all the time to people. Sometimes they get a second chance at another big dream late in life, but for the most part, it's done, finito, kapput.
▶ No.1029731
>>1029565
>Not really
Sure thing, kiddo. Try LARPing a bit harder.
▶ No.1029733
it can be as wholesome as you want it to
doesnt mean it will work with 30 programmers in production environment
it wont, it CANT, because its for BABIES
▶ No.1029742
>>1029370 (OP)
>the same guy who thought MEGATEXTURES was a good idea despite being massive I/O bottlenecks and lack of video memory a consumer would have at the time of release
His recent innovations have been lackluster.
▶ No.1029753
i think he knows what hes saying
its probably him seeing the "potential in 10 years or so" instead of current realities
▶ No.1030551>>1030575 >>1034152
>>1029582
I didn't know of anyone who played that, it was either Unreal Tournament or Counterstrike
▶ No.1030575
>>1030551
That's how it is being a plebeian amongst plebeians.
▶ No.1034152>>1036844
>>1030551
This. Quake 3 was shit compared to UT99. Quake 2 was the last good thing id produced. After that, Carmack started writing bloat. IDTech 4 was a bloat engine designed solely to help nVidia sell expensive GPUs.
>>1029370 (OP)
Guess he got Linus'd.
▶ No.1034154>>1034159
Didn't he indirectly work for the Zucc at some point? Such a tragic fall, to be working for a literal meme.
▶ No.1034159>>1035015
>>1034154
He left id, the company he founded, to work as the CTO for Oculus VR, which was then sold to faceberg.
▶ No.1035009
>>1029381
"borrow checker"?
What is that?
▶ No.1035014>>1035822
>>1029376
Does he have a harem that includes child brides?
No?
Does he have 1000's of descendants?
He's achieved nothing, historically speaking.
▶ No.1035015
>>1034159
O.R. could have been good...
▶ No.1035822>>1036040
>>1035014 Loli harem is one of the greatest men's dreams!
▶ No.1035860>>1035865 >>1035868 >>1035909
Anyone want to explain to me how a programming language makes you a transexual, the hell is wrong with Rust?
▶ No.1035865
>>1035860
Lesbians are made by abusive parents.
Gays are made by getting raped as children.
Bisexuals are ideological LARPers.
Transsexuals use terrible programming languages?
No, more likely that they're made by having a minor fetish and getting gaslit af but people telling them that (((sexual reassignment))) is a practical possibility instead of something that even in a thousand years won't be completely realistic due to significant differences in female and male brains. Maybe an adult male can turn into an adult female and then an adult female into a prepubescent male, but it'll be a lossy translation.
▶ No.1035868>>1035871
>>1035860
It seems to attract all kind of mentally ill rejects for some reason, many of them trannies. Probably because it was created by Mozilla which always shills for social justice.
No one is pretending that the language in itself is wrong, I personally find it ugly and painful, but whatever.
▶ No.1035871
>>1035868
Thanks for the actual answer, seems like it could turn useful in the future from what little I have played with it.
▶ No.1035908>>1035909
Birds of a feather flock together
>riseup-admins-bird-pictures.png
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▶ No.1036040>>1038408
>>1035822 Rust programmers love to fuck loli, shota, otokonoko, traps, cross-dressers, shemales, futanari, intersexes, ladyboys, tomboys, tomgirls!
▶ No.1036460>>1036520 >>1060552
>tfw when Romero and Carmack were superstars to you growing up
>tfw when Id's story is "superbly" told in Masters of Doom and you fall in love with Romero and Carmack all over again in your 20's, and you happily quote it to your coworkers and peers.
>tfw when the age of social media reveals they're both massive faggots, and American McGee never got a happy ending despite being the only person at Id worth his salt.
Romero is a megaspick cultural marxist and Carmack still has little to no interest in using his autism for the powers of good the way Notch does.
▶ No.1036466>>1036484 >>1058481
How long before Linus' minders have him migrate the kernel to Rust?
>>1029388
h-haskell isn't a toy language...
▶ No.1036484>>1038409
>>1036466
That won't happen. They are free to reimplement Linux with the Rust language as a separate project that's distinct to Linux.
▶ No.1036520
>>1036460
>Masters of Doom
>that office party they held for Wolfenstein 3D
>Carmack and Romero get shitfaced
>Romero checks on Carmack
<"I feel that I have lost control of my faculties."
▶ No.1036843
>>1029487
>Ada's problem is that there are too many rules for Pajeet to learn.
? That's a benefit.
▶ No.1036844>>1036846
>>1034152
>GPUs.
It was GPUs that killed gaming for me. All the game engines converged to much the same thing, and there was no longer any uniqueness to the game engines developed. Everything became "samey" and I promptly lost interest.
▶ No.1036846
>>1036844
they used to have to be clever in order to write software engines
▶ No.1036861
>>1029376
-ruining a once-good video game developer
-megatextures
Yep, aim high!
▶ No.1037048
>>1029603
yes he's not exactly up on the jewish trickery and it hurts to see him get tricked every now and then but you can't really blame a guy for that, especially when he's done so much. It really hurt to watch him get zucker'd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_v._Oculus He basically invented vr twice for shits and giggles.
▶ No.1037050>>1038411
>>1029376
even this competition, bunch of engineers dancing for peanuts; a top prize of 1 million dollars let me put that into context you can't even afford to open a mcdonalds franchise for 1 million dollars.
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▶ No.1037213
>>1029376
>It's simple but not easy.
Rich Hickey spotted.
▶ No.1038408
>>1036040
Rust programmers are anti-loli because it is disadvantageous to women.
▶ No.1038409>>1038497
>>1036484
Not if contributors rescind() and then successfully show that the nu-Rinux is derivative. Which is even easier post-Oracle.
▶ No.1038411
>>1037050
<White males love working for free and being dominated by a society that won't even let them have cute girls.
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>>1038409
No, that isn't how derivative works work. It's already hard enough to prove a derivative work when both projects are using the same language. When projects are totally different languages, then it's extremely hard to prove a derivative work.
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▶ No.1046835
lol he's tired of india-tier bugs, so he's shilling Ada 2 for javascript shirtlifters
▶ No.1047097
the salt in this thread from non-practising entities is hilarious
▶ No.1047451
>>1029632
Toddlers nowadays basically come with smartphones embedded in their butts. Thank you for reminding me of the shit world we live in.
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▶ No.1058481
>>1029388
>>1036466
only toy programmers use the phrase "toy language". incidentally most of the toy programmers are clustered around the likes of Java and C++
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▶ No.1059016>>1059047
>>1058989
Yes, that's literally what a programming language is for.
▶ No.1059047
>>1059016
No, Pajeet. Programming languages are not meant to facilitate your streetshitting habits.
▶ No.1060549
Is there a list of "toy" languages?
▶ No.1060552
>>1036460
Notch sold digital legos to Microsoft, who now uses it to try to get kids on Windows 10, whereas Carmack was the driving force behind GPLing the idTech engines up through idTech 4. All Notch did was say some shit on Twitter that would obviously not sit well with certain groups that have some power right now, which lead to Microsoft culling him from the credits. The moral of the story is its better to have a hobby, like rocketeering, than to engage in internet arguments with your real name.
▶ No.1060777
I wonder if it has anything to do with the classless approach to OOP that Rust has. Carmack was reluctant to switch over to Sepples from C, stating that OOP is a big ball of mud.
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