/tech/ - Technology★

>>1024143 (OP)

as long as you aren't concerned about "muh gaymes" just use any BSD that isn't FreeBSD, or better yet, a Plan 9 variant

>>1024146

>How do I unplug and get away from technology so I can just live my life without getting everything kicked out from under me

>Go install a barely used niche operating system, and spend a full week understanding the WIFI backend to patch and configure your own WIFI drivers as well as compiling a recent version of Chromium because curry nigger web developers can't help but use the latest of the latest agile JS frameworks that only work in the alpha version of Chromium just so you can view a youtube video your mom asked you to check out.

COME THE FUCK ON

This literally only gets rid of ONE out of the TEN DIFFERENT THINGS I JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN MY LIFE

This isn't about what OS to use you fucking git. This is about coming into your workshop, where you spend 7 hours a day working hard to craft the finest of woodwork and realizing your landlord rearranging every fucking tool "to provide you with a better experience" as well as painting everything sterile white so you can't even SEE your fucking tools anymore. Objecting to any of this gets your workshop magically relocated out in the boonies with a bricked in garage-style roll up door so now you have to get in through the back window and leave that open or spend the next 3 weeks fixing the monstrosity in front of your shop door.

This is about delivering a table and set of chairs to customers only finding out 2 days later that they updated the new "stool-foot protocol" and now you have to remodel your chairs or they won't fit under the table anymore and meanwhile talking the customer through a workaround.

This isn't about hobby operating systems, this is about everything technology related is garbage and is constantly updated with absolutely no fucking progress. All we get is more fucking bloat and I am SICK AND TIRED of this industry!

>>1024155

Then don't fucking use all that shit. You do not need it.

Look here you dumbfuck, are you fucking 12???? everything and I mean EVERYTHING has years when its made like shit and years when it just fucking kicks ass. Mid-Century furniture comes to mind, the stuff before they fucked it up... because in '55, '57 they were kicking ass, but by 1960 they had (((subverted))) it and it was nice looking garbage. Same with cars, several "great" periods to choose from. Several really bad years to avoid.

WHY THE FUCK should tech be any different? Its not. Go argue about amps or turntables. Peoples favorite years quickly come out.

We are in a shit period for software. People in the future will avoid any software from this year or near it.

So. Fucking. What.

>>1024155

<This isn't about what OS to use you fucking git. This is about coming into your workshop, where you spend 7 hours a day working hard to craft the finest of woodwork and realizing your landlord rearranging every fucking tool "to provide you with a better experience" as well as painting everything sterile white so you can't even SEE your fucking tools anymore. Objecting to any of this gets your workshop magically relocated out in the boonies with a bricked in garage-style roll up door so now you have to get in through the back window and leave that open or spend the next 3 weeks fixing the monstrosity in front of your shop door.

<This is about delivering a table and set of chairs to customers only finding out 2 days later that they updated the new "stool-foot protocol" and now you have to remodel your chairs or they won't fit under the table anymore and meanwhile talking the customer through a workaround.

Damn, what kind of software development do you do where that's the case? Do you work on Microsoft products? The Linux kernel? Maybe even (((systemd))) itself?

<This literally only gets rid of ONE out of the TEN DIFFERENT THINGS I JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN MY LIFE

I adore Plan 9 and think it's one of the greatest things to have happened in software, but even I can agree that it wouldn't be the best solution. However, let's see how using OpenBSD the best BSD would stack up against your issues:

<"Smart"-everything

actually doesn't solve the problem, but just don't use "smart" products [0/9]

<corporate spyware / Actual government spyware all around

IMO, these two are the same problem so I will treat them as such. OpenBSD isn't 100% free as in freedom software, but it's pretty damn close. Plus since they're based in Canada, they can ship actually good cryptography software that doesn't have back doors w/o fear that their government will hunt them down. [1/9]

<Code of conducts & normie fuckery instead of actual work

From the OpenBSD Project Goals page:

>Be as politics-free as possible; solutions should be decided on the basis of technical merit.

They are the ONLY group I've seen in software that takes an anti-politics approach to developing software. [2/9]

<Still no year of the linux desktop

>thinking linux is your only hope

Non-issue, IMO, but technically this doesn't get solved so [2/9]

<Linux has been subverted by systemd fuckery

Can't be subverted by (((systemd))) if you don't use (((systemd))) [3/9]

<Horrible flat UI interfaces that strain my eyes everywhere

OpenBSD doesn't restrict you to using just one UI. Just don't use a flat one. [4/9]

<still no truly secure computing

OpenBSD is so secure that it's a meme.

>"Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!"

[5/9]

<Rampant javashite bloatware that forces you to upgrade your hardware

I'm gonna leave this one unresolved because I don't know of any specific examples of this happening. I don't concern myself with (((node.js))) as using JS for anything other than simple website manipulation is a horrible idea. [5/9]

<software doesn't last and shit you write today doesn't last more than a couple years because everything breaks all the time and no one cares about writing lasting software

OpenBSD strives to make good quality code that actually works. See >>1009897. [6/9]

So, unless I'm missing something, OpenBSD solves two-thirds of your problems. And the other problems can be solved by not using shitty software in the first place. If you're not willing to work a little so that you aren't burdened by bloatware, then why even bother?

>>1024155

>ask for a solution to a problem

>get buttblasted because the answer provided doesn't fit your extremely specific and obscure criteria

NetBSD and OpenBSD are fine- just learn to use the package manager, and use the one most compatible with your hardware and use case. Even obscure browsers like Kmeleon and Falkon are capable of YT playback, and if that fails you can just download the videos for playback in your media software of choice.

>>1024143 (OP)

>Code of conducts & normie fuckery instead of actual work

is this an actual thing?

the only code of conduct is dont fuck with my shit and I wont kick in yours

fucking sjw cancer

>in 1994 you could get a magazine with a bsd or linux cd and with a bit of jimmying get it online with your isp over ppp or slip on the computer you already owned

>by 1998 you could probably download an iso or net install floppies or whatever on your broadband

>by 2002 there were a huge array of Free operating systems which would do as much or more than your typical Windows install, plus Wine was actually workable even back then

>by 2006 it was more or less standard to do all software development on a free OS for all types of internet companies, windows in the datacenter finally having died off nearly completely

>by 2010 free software owned all embedded

>in 2019 people still can't figure out how to go to ubuntu.com and get the free install iso

It's on them. Most people don't even know what an operating system is and the most popular new laptop computers boot straight into a web browser just like everybody predicted before WebTV was even a thing. Who cares? It's like saying most people aren't private pilots or radio hams.

>>1024143 (OP)

>How do I unplug if tech is all I know?

Find a different hobby, you're not working anyway.

>>1024245

you're a discord tranny

>>1024143 (OP)

Move to the country and apply your skills to permaculture and durable self-reliant infrastructure.

>>1024227

>Ubuntu

Now with Gnome3, yuck. Better get one of its derivatives with a better DE. (Of course you can just install the DE, but if the point was having something that works perfect out of the box, that's an extra step.)

>>1024143 (OP)

>>Horrible flat UI interfaces that strain my eyes everywhere

yeah, they're so lazy

>>1024169

You want the best furniture in clown year, who do you think you go to? The fuckin Amish motherfucker. Those boys never seen a goddamn computer in their lives and don't even want to. They are the elite woodworking cabal of the world, refusing the secrets of their Craft to any of those who would disobey God to use the Devil's electricity.

>>1024440

The Amish are like jews when it comes to loopholes around their religious exceptions They're fine with using electric power tools, as long as it is powered by a car battery. Lots of

>>1024455

>exceptions

*restrictions. Not sure why I typed that.

>>1024455

>>1024456

>arbitrary rules to technology

>Amish 'Jews'

Even many Amish use computers for business purposes. It is about learning how to control technology (necessary tools) and not let it control you (facebook and candy crush), and that is a pretty noble trait in a world of ever increasing consumption and globalization. They just need their own militias.

The consensus is clear OP, you should become Amish.

I live near Amish and they smoke, drink, and fuck just as not if not more than the rest of us. They just do it all while wearing suspenders and having a chauffeur drive them because it's okay to have a car as long as you aren't the one driving it.

>>1025209

>smoke, drink, and fuck just as not if not more than the rest of us

I live a life purer than most Amish!

>>1024155

Fuck off, LARPer.

>>1024455

The Amish will eventually have the best stuff. Theyre basically only using technological setup in an independent, resilient, non-problematic, bug-free role.

The Amish would use a modern computer, if the mobo hardware was practically repairable and less miniature, ran on car batteries, and open source.

>>"Smart"-everything

use libre shit only

>>corporate spyware

block out any IPs from your router (should be LibreCMC'd already if you're /tech/nician in 2019) and allow only the ones you "trust" (trust no one)

>>Code of conducts & normie fuckery instead of actual work

meh, that's what Free Software is for, don't like it? change it!

>>Still no year of the linux desktop

heh... true, you can't just unplug everyone from the botnet all at once

>>Linux has been subverted by systemd fuckery

#notall

>>Horrible flat UI interfaces that strain my eyes everywhere

write your own CSS :^) or use reader view at worst

>>Actual government spyware all around

move to a village

>>still no truly secure computing

Welp, nothings completely secure and nothing will be completely secure, ever, we can just make it safer (protip: the language itself has a critical bug, everyone can read it, even if you make some code with the person you are talking to, it can be decrypted, even during creation by someone who heard)

>>Rampant javashite bloatware that forces you to upgrade your hardware

NoScript my man, not every site needs jabashit to run, I was quite surprised when I realized some websites don't need like 90% of their js to serve their main purpose

>>software doesn't last and shit you write today doesn't last more than a couple years because everything breaks all the time and no one cares about writing lasting software

kinda agree.

>>1025327

>use libre shit only

show me some affordable libre motherboard, cpu, gpu, hdd, network card, monitor

the internet just sucks now. the web is being slowly replaced by apps and the "internet-of-things" devices. most people don't even use a laptop, let alone a desktop, except for work - they just use smartphones loaded with ads and spyware. so in attempts to reach this audience tons of websites became "mobile friendly" (read: shit).

I blame smartphones for most of the decline of the internet.

>>1025336

Isn't the Talos II mostrly libre?

https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/

And I don't think you'll find a libre monitor.

>>1025337

Smartphones are just the symptom. It's normalfags fucking everything, every time.

>>1025340

TALOS II recommends a proprietary GPU as an optional purchase. Nope.

And there still doesn't exist a fully libre SoC in todays world.

>>1025337

>>1025340

Smart-everything is the only future we will be living in whether we like it or not. Our kind will die out while normalcattle goyim continue to live forever controlled by kikes. There is nothing we can do about this.

Nobody is forcing you to use botnet hardware. I could still get by on a Pentium 4 machine, and 2 gigs of RAM quite easily. As for operating systems, idk what to tell you. Is OpenBSD not secure enough for you? It works really well on older hardware.

>>1025695

>Smart-everything is the only future we will be living in whether we like it or not. Our kind will die out while normalcattle goyim continue to live forever controlled by kikes. There is nothing we can do about this.

There is something we can do. if we started organization that would kill every person on the planet, when we completed eliminating people we would win. jews and goyim cannot win if they don't exist.

>>1025719

>Nobody is forcing you to use botnet hardware.

Everyone is forcing me. there is no hardware available that is not a botnet

>I could still get by on a Pentium 4 machine, and 2 gigs of RAM quite easily.

pentium 4 is botnet and closed source. it's just smaller botnet than modern shit

>>1025755

Wat how is Pentium 4 botnet? It isn't Libre, sure, but that doesn't inherently make it botnet.

>>1025695

>>1025755

>(((kikery)))

to the incinerator

>advocating for the extermination of every human just because of the (((kikes))) and etc. that can be killed groupally

Do you have any AMD Products in your computer? Consider removing them and replacing them with Intel Products. You should remember that Intel Products score higher than AMD Products in all cases and provide better functionality. Always purchase Intel Products.

>>1025695

"Smart everything" has been purposely gimped from the git go. Its too easy to shut down, its too easy for a script kiddie to hack, goign from smart back to self contained will be a short learning curve for normies. Even dumb people dont put up with things that fail constantly.

>>1024227

>CDs in 1994

>>1024143 (OP)

>discard wageslavery

>acquire pre-2013 parts

>discard smart-anything (nobody but your boss forces you to use this shit)

>discard GUI bloat

>acquire NetBSD/OpenBSD

>acquire w3m/lynx/links

>acquire vi and clang

I'm /comfy/. Only reason I still have a computer running anything with graphics is to watch anime and reply on imageboards.

>>1027059

>pre-2013

See SMM.

>clang

Are you retarded? How is that C++ LLVM mess comparable to the others?

>>1024143 (OP)

Tech is garbage, a business, a trade, drawing anime girls and selling them, anything is going to be better than working in this shit industry

>>1025336

if you follow KISS, outside some exotic information gathering techniques, the only thing that really needs to be fully open source is your router with a whitelist.

>>1025336

Stop treating privacy like a luxury, history has proven that it isn't.

>>1027642

>the only thing that really needs to be fully open source is your router with a whitelist.

Nice LARP, whitelist routing is too fragile for anything but some specialize use cases, and having a single point of failure is insanity.

We live in a CIA prison.

>>1024245

>pfft you don't even suck cock? you must not have a job!

every fucking time

>>1024169

This is a good point, everything is shit. Right now I'm looking for a vitamin but I want to see which company makes one that actually works and has the amount they actually state on the label (so I'm not wasting my money and I also don't overdose or get other shit mixed in there).

>Walk into store

>Jamieson Naturals

>Webber Naturals

>Whatever Naturals

>Naturopath ShitFaggot

>Natural Bullshit

>Homeopathic dick in your mouth

The whole point of a vitamin that a scientist figured out the exact specific compound you need to prevent disease X, so instead of eating a liver every day, you can just take a pill. There's nothing natural about vitamins, shut the fuck up.

Here's what I get when I search for "major vitamin companies"

Top 10 Most Valuable Supplement Companies https://www.exercise.com/blog/top-10-most-valuable-supplement-companies/

Literally some gay cucksumer website talking about their 5 favorite pet brands that pay them to talk about it. Next

List of Top Vitamin Brands | Livestrong.com https://www.livestrong.com/article/30775-list-top-vitamin-brands/

This website is literally the buzzfeed of medical information. Not even worth opening.

14 Vitamin Brands Doctors Trust Most https://www.rd.com/health/wellness/vitamin-brands-doctors-trust/

>Lol goy look at all these specific supplements you can be taking for 40 different things

Okay faggot, I'm looking for vitamin brands, not specific vitamins that I likely have no interest in aside from you trying to sell me something I never knew I needded

Which Vitamin Companies Are GMP Certified? https://healthfully.com/vitamin-companies-gmp-certified-7391524.html

>Look goy a new classification. You should pretend to care if brands are GMP certified!

'''Top 5 Vitamin Manufacturers Across the Globe' https://www.spendedge.com/blogs/top-vitamin-manufacturers

A fucking 2 page article to give me 5 words. And it's not even 2 pages, it's more like 5 paragraphs split across two pages so they have more chances to show you ads.

The 14 Mega Corporations That Own Your Supplement Brand https://www.woodstockvitamins.com/blogs/learn/the-mega-corporations-that-own-your-supplement-brand

This blogspam actually has some useful information, now instead of absolutely nothing, I know a few of the companies that own some of the brands I have in my stores (for example Centrum is owned by Pfizer). It's still fucking blogspam by some naturalfag and it's only useful in contrast to how useless the rest of the search results are.

Now let's take a second to analyze this cookie cutter blogspam.

>Instead of the typical bars wasting a third of the page, has a bar saying the company has changed names

>Top bar with menus needs JS to use (even though the entire web was fine doing this without JS for the first 20 years)

>Clickbait post title

>Hipster approved gay blog fonts that somehow bypass the fact that I disabled "websites can choose fonts" in firecuck as usual

>Zooming into the page forces all the text into a tiny column

>A PDF version of the article that provides the only useful part, the picture as a "condensed" version of the article. This is a first

>A picture of the author's signature at the bottom (more common around turbocucksumer websites such as those related to the health industry)

>Share on facebook twatter google+ pinterest XDDD

>annoying fucking shit on the sides of the page. at least i can view the products without JS not that i'm interested in their products

>Usual THAT'S ALL FOLKS circle around the author of the blog post

And any dumb fuck could have wrote this article. It didn't have to be a corporate blogspam blog.

vitamins | companies - EUROPAGES https://www.europages.co.uk/companies/vitamins.html

Some actual companies listed here, interesting. Maybe later I'll figure out how to navigate their website and what bullshit datasource they pull their information from and conclude that it's utterlly useless.

All Companies - Nutraceuticals World https://www.nutraceuticalsworld.com/buyersguide/all_companies

Some bot generated shit, which almost breaks because of "muh cookies" popup covering part of the page. Will have to anaylze later

A link to a page on alibaba

Not even opening

Top 10 Vendors in the Global Vitamin Ingredients Market - Technavio https://blog.technavio.com/blog/top-10-vendors-global-vitamin-ingredients-market

I DONT WANT TOP 10. I DONT WANT CLICKBAIT. FUCK YOU GOOGLE. SUCK MY DICK. IT SHOULD JUST FUCKIGN FILTER OUT TOP [N]

(CONT)

(CONT)

There are 7 billion people in the world, surely a few thousand have wrote on this subject. But the G only shows me a bunch of useless cucksumer spam instead.

Fuck all this bullshit, I want a list of all companies that produce vitamins, and what whitelabels and other jewish shit they do to hide their ilk.

Now if I search "vitamin whitelabels":

Discover ideas about White Labels. White labeling vitamin supplements is a great way for you to build your company's brand and grow your business. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/289708188510759421/

YES, YOU FAGGOT. Your gay marketing shit works perfectly to help me have no fucking clue where anything I buy is sourced. Also without JS that website is a literal blank page even though all it's supposed to be is a bunch of thumbnails with text.

This is a perfect example of why Google search is fucking useless cucksumer garbage. It's the same no matter what you search for. Last week I looked up bathroom sinks and it was the same story.

Not to mention every fucking page is a nightmare to browse because even when they don't freeze the browser with a bunch of JS and bloat, they all have their stupid special snowflake layouts you have to figure out to process all the information correctly.

>So. Fucking. What

So FUCK YOU. That's what. Final solution when?

(CONT)

also i like how this website uses a pandemic infographic to show what parts of the world they have their products in:

https://www.jamiesonvitamins.com/pages/jamieson-worldwide

>>1028475

east/west reversed.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

RESPECT THE ROMAN EMPIRE

>>1024155

Litterally get autismbux and live a sage life.

>>1024171

>actually doesn't solve the problem, but just don't use "smart" products [0/9]

The problem here is more and more vendors are forcing "smart" bullshit. There was a story Nathan Lineback (the toastytech guy) wrote about how he had to go through hell and back not to get a Smart Thermostat.

>>1028473

>eating a liver every day

Hell yeah, I love liver. Could eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner!

Why didn't they ever give me a prescription for that? Fucking kikes.

>>1025214

>>1034054

Pretty good shit I mean

>>1025807

>blabla (((intelaviv))) shilling

die (((jew))).

>>1033967

>Why didn't they ever give me a prescription for that?

You would overdose on vitamin A and copper, and die equally stupidly as the bozos who cant stop eating fast food.

>>1028474

its because you have to do some really gay seo shit to get to the top of google. only big companies and their spambots do it not normal people that write some simple page like that one you are looking for.

>>1025336

Freedom isn't free

USE HAIKU

>>1028474

Google is so fucking crap these days, they're erasing history with their shitty search. Worthless garbage, it's like after the internet became more centralized they stopped bothering.

I started studying integrated circuit fabrication so I could disconnect from the botnet properly. So do that I guess, and figure out how to do it in a cost effective way.

>>1039642

If you get even halfway to actually doing that we'll read about your tragic suicide the next day.

>>1039687

They'd better male sure they kill my children too because I'm making sure they do it before anyone else.

>Linux has been subverted by Systemd

The kernel hasn't been subverted by Systemd, baka.

There are also a few distros that use other inits in place of Systemd

>>1025694

>TALOS II recommends a proprietary GPU as an optional purchase. Nope.

So go all in and buy the NVidia-Approved® latest setup, amirite?

>>1028394

I crai errytime. ;~;

>>1041255

The problem with modern IP is that it effectively never runs out. The point of IP is supposed to be that if you create something new, you can get the government to give you a temporary monopoly on it as a reward. Emphasis on TEMPORARY. Thanks to corporate stooge politicians like Sonny Bono, we have shit like long ass fucking copyright terms. A big driver of copyright law specifically is Disney. Anytime Steamboat Willie is about to enter public domain, they pay off enough politicians to get copyright terms extended. That's right, Steamboat Willie still isn't public domain. A fucking 8 minute cartoon from 1928.

1928

>>1041275

>Anytime Steamboat Willie is about to enter public domain, they pay off enough politicians to get copyright terms extended.

Than why didn't they do it this time?

>>1041275

I still think it's conceptually wrong. Giving anybody a monopoly over ANYTHING for ANY REASON, especially at the cost of property rights, is wrong and economically fallacious and disastrous. But that is true, modern copyright is many times worse than older copyright laws.

>>1041281

There's still time. Steamboat Willie has until 2023 before it's copyright expires.

>>1024155

your problem has nothing to do with the state of technology but is rather an emotional problem, something is causing you to be very agitated and now you're lashing out in all directions

Apply the principles of accelerationism to computing. Perhaps we can destroy the internet. And from it's ashes shall be born a phoenix named... Internet 2.

>>1028444

At this point what's the down side of going full amish? You lose nothing and will force you to find actual, physical hobby which is more fulfilling and less blue hair tranny pajeet infested.

>>1024146

if you aren't worried about "muh mainstream newfaggot aids filled OS like BSD cancer" then use temple OS which is the only OS that isn't entirely syphilitic

>>1043747

Internet2 already exists. Look it up

Go full Terry anon

>>1024171

Plan 9 is abandonware, the only active fork is maintained by autistic fag enablers. OpenBSD is great for a server, or a router, but to make it optimal for a workstation means tuning or outright disabling all the fancy security features it has.

>>1043701

>hurr durr emotional problem hurr durr armchair psychiatrist

Gas yourself you (((kike))) and/or (((kike follower))).

>>1060776

Never disable them for the performance increases or for anything else. It is unnecessary. You can live perfectly well with the super security features, like many people do.

>>1025340

>Smartphones are just the symptom. It's normalfags fucking everything, every time.

this

genocide is the only fix

>>1025695

t. Shlomo

>year of the linux desktop

trust me, you don't want this

>>1061038

Too many people don't understand that "year of the linux desktop" means "year of normalfags in my linux".

>>1061042

As long as they stick to their GNOME 3.3 and Ubuntu, I don't really care too much. But, of course- that won't happen.

>>1061042

>>1061045

New-friends is one thing, but I believe rather the main issue would become big-tech seeing profit in desktop Linux, and by that escalating the poz to irreversible levels.

>>1061249

>issue would become big-tech seeing profit in desktop Linux, and by that escalating the poz to irreversible levels.

>be big tech

>want to pozz GNU/Linux even more

>create tools to help NPC workers poz

>tools help anons produce their own personal TempleOS

shiggy diggy famalam

it's all good

>>1061249

Couldn't you just remove stupid stuff since it's linuc?

>>1061420

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually sell computers with a pre-installed locked down distro that has selinux policies preventing normal users from doing certain things. E.g. forcing vendor crapware to persist even if you remove it, on some hidden partition.

Then again I'd never use a pre-installed operating system.