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>>1020511 (OP)

>appear

Important word. Real web devs:

https://www.tintash.com/company

http://www.experionglobal.com/leadership-team/

https://www.absolutewebservices.com/company/leaders-in-b2b-and-b2c-ecommerce-solutions/

https://www.mobomo.com/about/

>>1020511 (OP)

>Why are they attracted to programming? I can't imagine them enjoying the theory.

The skill barrier of webshit is very low and it's very easy to get practical results in a short time and small amount of code, which is probably why it attracts so many normalfags. There's also a lot of job opportunities for it.

If you use any javascript framework then you need to kys, JS is already made for a nigger-tier IQ and attention span, you don't need to stick a megabyte of bloat inbetween it.

>>1020515

jQuery is just fine. Operating the DOM using vanilla JS is just a pain in the ass. Easy, but painful. Specially if you want to keep cross-browser compatibility with older IE.

>inb4 nodevs comment that supporting old IE is for shit programmers

>>1020524

Any webdev cuck shit is for shit programmers.

>>1020515

If you're solo-developing a webapp there's nothing wrong with a light JS framework. If you're using something like react which requires 16GB of ram to load a few lines of text you should kys, but using something like jquery to lighten your workload is fine. I'd much rather spend my time working in the backend, and developing new features rather than writing javascript

>>1020514

What a shitty website.

JQuery is simply a syntax enhancer for DOM manipulation which can make things easier. I personally stray away from "frameworks" like React, Vue, Angular, etc, because I don't need some opinionated constraint on how to develop my interfaces, I can wire everything myself through my own patterns and with the help of a few libraries, like Handlebars for instance, for templating. I did try Vue, made some small demos with it, found the documentation pretty good and quite a few "aha this is nice!" moments, but in the end it didn't seem like something I'd want to build advanced projects with. I understand it could act as some sort of common way of building things that could ease collaboration though, plus the "reusable components" concept is nice, but I could just abstract those in standalone libs/files.

>>1020511 (OP)

when finishing college in comp sci. I dropped in a job doing a web-based application. I went back in uni in math because after a bunch of months it felt brain dead and all I did was hearing complain from clients. My daily life of programming was mostly about building UI in a large clusterfuck and making change in a broken SQL database by it's rushed design.

>>1020624

Do you prefer isEven or isOdd dependency? Personally, I prefer isEven because of the redundancy, but I know some people who swear by isOdd.

To each his own I guess.

>>1020624

>JQuery is simply a syntax enhancer for DOM manipulation which can make things easier.

not needed, you learn JQuery to get rid of JQuery

>>1020527

What do you program?

>inb4 systems programming for embedded devices in C and assembly

>>1020511 (OP)

>>1020681

Also

>ruby

>no print/puts

>values just end up going to nowhere

I just looked up string concentation in ruby on toiletoverflow and it seems that both + and << are faster and a function call certainly takes some time too.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/377768/string-concatenation-in-ruby

>>1020629

No. I either use modulo or write my own function in my utils file.

>>1020663

Well I've written big projects with and without JQuery. I can do both. For new future projects I'd still consider using it, because it does make some things easier, plus the project is still very actively maintained, don't think it's going away.

>>1020629

The problem with isEven/isOdd is that they do too little for a single lib. You should instead have an eg "numutils" lib that provides common ops like parity checking, factorial, etc. JQuery on the other hand could reasonably be accused of providing too many different utilities, especially when you drag in jquery UI.

>>1020514

How do you make that java debugging menu appear. Plz no bully.

>>1020816

That's javascript, and those are the dev tools. I open them with F12.

>>1020823

>spoonfeeding