No.5817[Last 50 Posts]
Let us take a look at the ships and vehicles of The Last Jedi.
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No.5818
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No.5819
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No.5820
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No.5821
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No.5822
>>5817
Something about the first 3 look… off.
>>5819
That speeder doesn't look very practical.
>>5820
The new imperial walker design is just so silly. Its just the front legs changed to resemble a gorilla and giving its head a more "evil" look with those corny eye windows.
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No.5823
>>5819
>Cantonica
>another fucking desert planet
>it has an artificial ocean! The biggest ocean in the galaxy!!
Hell these movies might as well be their own fucking shitty universe.
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No.5825
>>5817
Wow the writing is terrible, there is no fluff only referencing the film. Nu-lore is pathetic.
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No.5826
>>5819
Wait why use a Snowtrooper on a Salt planet?
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No.5830
>>5817
the resistance bomber is the only interesting new design, because it reminds me of a WW2 bomber and is even designed like one, the top half at least.
fuck, why can't we get just a straight up war movie? as much as i honestly liked rogue one, they added in so much unnecessary shit that it detracted far from what they marketed it as.
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No.5831
>>5830
fuck me, the resistance bomber is literally a b-52 with an undercarriage, top kek.
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No.5832
So if the resistance is so insignificantly small and understaffed, what was the reasoning for constructing Starkiller base in the first place?
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No.5833
>>5817
>corvette is capital ship
this gonna be gud.jpg
that bomber is retarded
>>5818
1.that pod is shit and x wing is deviant art tier. frigate makes no sense whatsoever in univers. imagine how it would land on planet surface
2.supremacy is so retarded that nothing has to be said, its enough to take a look
3. pretty much tie/in x1. i am fine with it even if its generic as fuck
4. they are look like shit except for classic ISD. that small shuttle is really bad. also tie/sf triggers my autism. 2 people in standard tie cockpit AND hyperdrive AND a turret
command shuttle is shittier blockier mu class shuttle
>>5820
3.shuttle looks fine, except for not having anywhere to sit. its hard to fuck up shuttle
also
>poor being's cloak
since saying "men" is wrong and racist
4. shitty cloud city speeder that makes even less sense
it all fucking sucks and i hate it.
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No.5834
>>5833
>frigates
>landing
c'mon fam
>>5818
resistance pod looks an awful lot like the cis pods used in the pt. is disney trying to imply the confederacy was the good guy in the clone wars? what the fuck?
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No.5835
>>5834
>c'mon fam
its still retarded tho
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No.5836
>>5835
of course it's retarded, they just took the nebulon and cut off part of the bottom.
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No.5838
>The Supremacy
We 40K nao.
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No.5839
>>5838
nah, 40k ships actually fit into general aesthetics of a faction.
>>5836
i myself could make better looking ships. fuck i would be better actor too
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No.5841
>>5838
More like we social commentary now.
>>5818
>Resistance Transport Pod
nuWars' answer to DS9's runabouts
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No.5845
>>5819
>AT-M6
>All Terrain MegaCaliber Six
Fuck you and your inconsistent shit. If anything, this would be an AT-MTP, All Terrain Mobile Turbolaser Platform.
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No.5847
>>5825
Can't have overly complicated scifi techno-whatzit references and names. That's not cool according to what Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory told me.
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No.5852
>>5845
>megacaliber
good fucking god, this is the best they could come up with?
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No.5853
>Manufacturers
>Trochiliad Motors
>Astikan Gridworx
>Guild d'Lanseaux
<sacre bleu!
>Vanguerre Artists' Workshop
<le artisans of Vanguerre XI are the bestest in the galaxy!
>the TurboDrive company
<Laser cannon turrets defend each corner of walker
>no designation code or statistics for cannons
Stupid shit and shittier designs aside, I'm surprised they didn't misspell SoroSuub as "SoruSuub" again and that they had the gall to diss the Queen of Ranroon by comparing her to the First Order's bitch ship.
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No.5854
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No.5878
>>5820
These redesigns barely qualify as redesigns. The changes are so superficial that they may as well use the exact same walkers from ESB.
>The First Order has seen little need to change an effective formula.
They mean Disney has seen little need to change an effective formula.
>>5826
Because Rian Johnson was worried that Salt-Hoth wasn't generating enough nostalgia already so he put snowtroopers there even though it's really hot.
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No.5879
That bomber is the stupidest design ever. B-Wings or Y-Wings were good enough at bombardment. And how the fuck is that slow-moving Turkey going to do anything? Concussion missiles are going to savage it.
Hell, the detonation of one of them blew up three or four grouped around it. And this was after Poe wiped out the deck cannons.
They were trying to make a B-17 in space but it completely doesn’t work.
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No.5888
>>5838
Hey now, 40k ships are cool and make sense in-universe.
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No.5892
>>5878
Even the AT-AHT had a better design since it actually looked like an upgraded AT-AT with heavier armoring, more guns/cannons and even more defenses in the rear and sides for attacks from multiple directions. It was like an actual walking fortress.
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No.5902
>Supremacy
>WE ARE S STRONG INDEPENDENT REGIME WHO NEEDS NO CAPITAL WORLD
>ship with inbuilt factories
>WE NEEDS NO STINKINGS SUPPLY LIKE S
Seriously, at least the World Devastators had the excuse of consuming worlds to fuel it producing line.
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No.5906
It may sound dumb, but my favorite part about Star Wars has always been the vehicles and military technology, it was always what I focused the most on.
When this nu-Wars stuff isn't unoriginal copies of previous designs, its original designs just look stupid and lazy. The cutaways are even lazy and uninspired.
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No.5910
>>5906
>It may sound dumb, but my favorite part about Star Wars has always been the vehicles and military technology
>It may sound dumb
Where do you think you are, trooper? Because you are home.
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No.5919
>>5906
>It may sound dumb, but my favorite part about Star Wars has always been the vehicles and military technology, it was always what I focused the most on.
lad, you are far from dumb. you can't watch star wars and not have some form of appreciation for the tech, even if it's usually babby's first sci-fi tier. you have every reason to be annoyed that they just cut and paste ot shit with slight variations.
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No.5925
It's only been 30 years since RotJ, so doesn't it make sense that a lot of vessels would be a newer iteration on mostly the same design? Especially considering that the First Order is deeply worshipful of Galactic Empire symbols and the Resistance isn't well-funded.
Not that I wouldn't like really novel designs. If TIES and X-Wings could just pop into existence within a few years after RotS, then there's theoretically room for all kinds of variety of the sort we notice between the prequels and OT. I can see how it's justified by the circumstances of both factions.
>>5839
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No.5926
>>5839
>>5925
I think the Supremacy fits in with the other First Order capital ships considering that the common theme is "warped Dorito."
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No.5928
>>5926
Warped Doritos would be a more fitting name than "The First Order".
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No.5930
>>5902
And more, the writers have no idea how governments and military works, no sense of scale. How the First Order, a regime controlling less than a third of the galaxy would have the resources and credits to build a ship more powerful than the Executor and something short of a Death Star? The Empire produced those giant ships and stations because it controlled more than 2/3 of an entire galaxy. Even if the Fist Order had moles inside the New Republic diverting resources it simply cannot field a mobile fortress/factory around. It contradicts the fact of it being a remnant of the Empire who managed to score a victory only due an ass pulled super plot device weapon used in a cirurgical strike against a moronic government which didn't even considered it a threat until yesterday
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No.5934
>>5930
This is why I choose to believe they have the Star Forge. Not because I want to justify their bullshit resource gathering abilities, but to believe that the Star Forge and all it represented is still canon.
Also I would really like a First Order win, they're shitters but damn they're still so much more compelling than the alternatives.
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No.5937
>>5878
I guess Salt-Troopers would be to ironic.
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No.5980
>>5820
I like how they even manage to fuck up something as simple as that shuttle. The pilots can't see shit and there are no passenger seats. They needed a box that could fly and carry people, yet they still managed to fuck up that simple task, and designed a box that can't properly be flown and can't properly carry people.
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No.5998
>>5910
>2nd pic
I still remember that from my Revenge of the Sith Cross section.
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No.6009
>>5930
The Empire was able to put together a navy of its scale because it inherited all of the territories of the Republic and acquired some more, but I don't see why the sophistication and advanced edge of their tech needs to correlate with however much of the Galaxy they own. Less than 1/3rd could be enough if the Unknown Regions contain enough unexploited resources for them, when fully oriented to a war economy, to build superior weapons. Plenty of actual countries involved in historic wars didn't begin with the most territory or even the oldest culture but still enjoyed a technological lead over their opponents.
It's too much to ask in suspension of disbelief how they were able to build anything like Starkiller Base in time for the events of TFA, but I don't think Super Duper Star Destroyers are out of the question. Miniaturization usually doesn't take very long to happen, for example.
>Even if the First Order had moles
They had backers in the Corporate Sector many of whom were profiteers of the Galactic Empire's actions. Y'know, because Disney, a major multi-national conglomerate devouring its competitors through relentless buyouts and consolidations, wants us to understand how private industry is greedy and immoral!
>>5934
JJ Abrams isn't a good fit for collaborative and legacy settings like Star Wars. His strategy of "here's something with just enough details to be interesting, now you goys do all of the hard work making into something developed" just doesn't work when everyone else is left with zero guidance besides fan theories.
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No.6010
>>5925
>It's only been 30 years since RotJ, so doesn't it make sense that a lot of vessels would be a newer iteration on mostly the same design?
it's only 20 years between the pt and ot, and the designs are massively different, with some basic similarities.
the lore for the st is that the empire is being funded by people who want the empire to return, and thus they pretty much keep what's there, only with whatever updated tech there is (if it ain't broke, don't fix it), and the resistance is actually using old shit. the t-70 x-wing is outdated and leftover from when the republic downsized its military.
>>5930
>Fist Order
oh anon, you flatter me
>>6009
the only justification i can find for starkiller base is that they pretty much began working on it almost immediately after consolidating their leftover forces from the battle of jakku. combine that with whoever was still loyal to the empire basically funding them endlessly (kuat drive yards for example) could explain why starkiller didn't start going until 30 years later, after all that was a shit ton of digging they had to do.
hell, it took the empire 20 years to finish the death star, but that was due to slave labor revolts and galen erso (i typed marek the first time, rip) fucking around. it only took them 4-5 years after to build the second one since they then used independent contractors and imperial laborers, plus they had the plans down with an improved laser.
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No.6039
>>5817
Let's forget what Y wings are because we're fucking retarded
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No.6040
>>5822
Hey look, Black One has NOS
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No.6041
lmao nigga, all the star destroyers are the same
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No.6042
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No.6043
>>5879
exactly, at that point, you'd just use a capital ship
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No.6044
>>5906
Fuck you for liking cool shit bitch ass :)
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No.6045
>>6009
>I don't see why the sophistication and advanced edge of their tech needs to correlate with however much of the Galaxy they own.
More resources, effectively.
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No.6047
>>6042
>>6041
>>6044
delate yourself from existance newfag
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No.6048
>>5818
http://fractalsponge.net/?p=2568
This starship design autist gives a really detailed critique of how the pizza dreadnought has no visual sense of scale despite being described as 8km in size. The lack of detail makes it look so much smaller compared to old star destroyer designs, especially the Executor which succeeded in looking like a city-sized starship.
>>5937
We'll all have to become Salt Troopers to survive Disney's post-TLJ salt flow. I've never seen such a salty reaction to poor reviews before.
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No.6051
>>6048
>This starship design autist gives a really detailed critique of how the pizza dreadnought
Is he /ourguy/?
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No.6055
>>6048
>This starship design autist gives a really detailed critique of how the pizza dreadnought has no visual sense of scale despite being described as 8km in size.
He's right. Most of the redesigns make no sense visually and practically (ie: how the hell can that small part in the middle can hold the huge bridge section on the top?). All they've done to the old stuff is add a small thing an paint everything in metallic grey, even the nuX-wing is painted black.
The Dreadnought reminds me of the Destiny from Stargate Universe. Same shape, same main weapon placed under the ship. The only difference is that the Destiny didn't get destroyed 5 minutes after appearing on screen.
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No.6066
>>6047
lmao look at butthurt jj abrams over here
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No.6067
>>6047
what a sad little fanboy
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No.6068
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No.6069
>>6047
thanks to fanboys like you I think TLj wasn't garbage now
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No.6072
>>6066
>>6067
>>6068
>>6069
Stop spamming multiple posts you retard.
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No.6075
>>6066
>>6067
>>6068
>>6069
fuck off retard
>inb4 I was just pretending to be retarded
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No.6495
>>5818
Kylo's TIE doesn't look anything like a Defender. Is Disney being lazy or just stupid? They should have given some fan service and remarked on it being a development of the TIE Avenger.
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No.6509
>>5817
That gravity-reliant bomber would work if it was meant to be used in a planet's atmosphere over a ground battle. It cannot into space that way, as it did in the film.
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No.6513
>>5878
But anon they're wearing cooling suits :^)
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No.6514
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No.6517
>>6495
>Disney
>giving fanservice
Disney treats the SW franchise like its only meant for idiots who just watch it to get drunk with friends or to keep the kids shut up. Why do you think they got rid of all the more complex stuff and replaced it with irl politics/ideologies to satisfy useful idiots?
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No.6534
>>6517
I don't think normies would be offended by a reference like that tbhfam
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No.6544
>>6534
But Disney thinks they would.
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No.6569
>>6048
i like his work tbh
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No.6572
>>6569
The guy knows his ships.
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No.6574
>>5819
They think the AT-M6 looks intimidating and not stupid.
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No.6577
>>5879
I'm no general or anything (although now a general can be in charge of the First Order navy???) but the way they used those bombers drove me nuts. First of all, why would you have all the bombs in that bottom wing? If anything hit it the whole ship would go up, making it pretty much useless unless you were dropping freedom on sand people. And why all the useless turrets? More crew means more casualties. And no fighter escort?? They obviously didn't pay attention to Lucas's biggest (s)hit Red Tails.
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No.6795
>>5892
no that looks retarded
>we deployed AT-ATs on hoth and the enemy disabled several of them by taking advantage of their top-heavy design
>let's make a new AT-AT that's even more top-heavy than last time
>>5906
>It may sound dumb, but my favorite part about Star Wars has always been the vehicles and military technology
Buddy I almost cream myself when I see a new Star Destroyer variant that isn't retarded like all the shit coming out of the new canon
>>6495
>Is Disney being lazy or just stupid?
Why not both?
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No.6834
>>6795
But with even more gunners it can now shoot down shitty airspeeders that try to tie it down like a bitch from any angle.
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No.6836
>>5820
>>6795
Instead of doing a reskin of the AT-ATs, why don't they use another design, something with continuous tracks like a tank? It would work way better on a Hoth-like planet than the walkers, right?
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No.6859
>>6795
>we deployed AT-ATs on hoth and the enemy disabled several of them by taking advantage of their top-heavy design
To me it didn’t seem like Speeders were all that effective against AT-ATs. You needed to execute an extremely difficult manuever and they managed to bring down exactly one AT-AT that way. Luke was just as effective with a thermal detonator and a harpoon. Shit games like Empire at War made it almost like a Speeder will just fuck an AT-AT up immediately when for the most part AT-ATs just blew them away.
X-Wings (or Y-Wings) would have been much more effective against them.
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No.6865
>>6859
This. It was almost impossible to pull the same maneuver on an AT-AT online in old Battlefront.
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No.6896
>>6865
>It was almost impossible to pull the same maneuver on an AT-AT online in old Battlefront.
True. I lol'd so hard when some friends try to make that and failed so many times.
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No.6897
>>6795
It's important to note that it was a highly elite squadron of pilots doing that maneuver and they did it exactly once. The added cannons on the side would make it nearly impossible.
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No.6899
>>5817
>>5818
>>5819
>>5820
>>5821
I only like the A-Wing desing, the rest loooks like shit.
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No.6900
>>6899
thats because its based on orginal concept art
same with x-wing
yes they couldnt make even one good thing themselfs
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No.6909
>>6900
>yes they couldnt make even one good thing themselfs
Isn't that just Disney in a nutshell? All of their best and most popular shit steals or copies from other works, like fairy tales and other movies.
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No.6921
>>6836
remember that there was a vehicle that was the head of an at-st with the body of like a crab or something that was cut from the film altogether, but still had a lego set made for it. ironic that the one mostly original design doesn't get into the final cut.
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No.6925
>>6569
Good stuff.
Always thought capital ships should have battleship like gun turrets + smaller AA guns, it would make sense for a warship after all.
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No.6926
>>6795
>no that looks retarded
No, its the proper upgrade to the AT-AT
>Shorter legs
>Multiple weapons, not just at the front, but at the sides too.
>More armor, which being caparace-like, gives a more menacing & bestial (without looking retarded) look, and making it look bigger
>More menacing looks
But instead of Disney taking that & pasting onto the movie, we get gorilla AT AT with a shitty & small cannon on its hunchback.
>>6509
>That gravity-reliant bomber would work if it was meant to be used in a planet's atmosphere over a ground battle. It cannot into space that way, as it did in the film.
This. Besides, what would the need of the Resistance to take these with them? When running from the FO, the bombers would be deadweight that would hinder them, more than anything.
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No.6927
>>6925
Indeed. The bigger the vehicle, the more guns/cannons it'll need.
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No.6938
>>6048
>an autist who gives this much of a fuck about the rule of cool
truly /ourguy/
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No.6939
>>6509
>>6926
while you are both right that the bombs wouldn't simply drop, it states right there in the picture that they have magnetic plates designed to eject the bombs. you can also argue that since they were in d'qar's orbit, that might have helped in releasing them. what we should be bitching about is how the bay doors open and there isn't any sort of pressure shit to fuck with the crew upstairs, since there's literally a gaping hole and no chamber between the two. also, the shields on this thing are apparently absolute dog shit, since none of the bombers took any frontal hits iirc, despite the shield generator being right there in the front (a stupid place to put it).
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No.6958
>>6048
>>6939
Truly. Domino's Dreadnought even fails on a practical level, though. The advantage of those wedge-shaped Star Destroyers is that they present a lot of surface area on which to mount gratuitous numbers of turbolasers–the only better option is a sphere–which is exactly what they did. An extruded fucking triangle doesn't even provide that.
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No.6993
>>5819
I love the concept of the AT-HH. Instead of Gorilla AT-AT, they should have made something like the AT-HH the colossal weapons menacing the Resistance. Also, i remenber there was a LEGO toy advert for a AT-ST with multilegs like the AT-HH…Which didnt appear in the movie. What a waste…but then again, the Crayt battle in the movie was a waste too, with the sky speeders doing nothing, and the battle was not much interesing, compared to the battle of Hoth.
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No.7001
>>6993
Seems like only the Canto Bight Speeders and the AT-HH are the only ones that actually look Star Wars-ish in any sense, although the Canto speeder seems to draw heavily from Naboo aesthetics. The streetboss 50-50 just looks dull.
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No.7147
>>6958
According to one of the RPG suplemments (Starships of the Galaxy) the defining part of a star destoyer is that the wedge shape not just allows lots of lasers, but lets them all be directed to a single target.
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No.7210
>>6896
I always got a kick out of seeing them crash their snow speeders into my walker's legs.
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No.9173
>>6921
>remember that there was a vehicle that was the head of an at-st with the body of like a crab or something that was cut from the film altogether, but still had a lego set made for it. ironic that the one mostly original design doesn't get into the final cut.
>>6993
> Also, i remenber there was a LEGO toy advert for a AT-ST with multilegs like the AT-HH…Which didnt appear in the movie. What a waste…
Still the AT-HS as it was dubbed was a rather disappointing Lego set…
It uses a "popping" wheel mechanic instead of a proper piston one, resulting in a lame action where the legs get stuck at their highest point.
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No.9174
>>9173
What the fuck is that shit actually?
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No.9177
>>9174
The new AT-HS (all-terrain heavy-scout) that was supposed to replace the AT-ST. It's an AT-ST with really fucked up-looking tread-like spider legs or something which appeared in concept art but doesn't show up in the movie and probably had its scene deleted for being so stupid-looking.
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No.9178
>>9174
>What the fuck is that shit actually?
It was dubbed the All Terrain Heavy Scout walker, it's SUPPOSE to look more like an AT-ST head on some of those Heavy Hauler Strandbeest legs, here's the only damned picture I could find of the thing…
>>9177
>probably had its scene deleted for being so stupid-looking
It doesn't look as stupid when it doesn't have a terrible wheel bumping leg mechanic, but it was as disappointing as the "First Order AT-ST" set we did get…
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No.9181
>>9178
>wheel bumping leg mechanic
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No.9182
>>9181
Honestly, it was probably to get an action gimmick in while sticking to a $25 USD price point…
They easily could have Technic that shit up, but that also would have jacked the price up another ten bucks, and kiddies wouldn't have enjoyed a version with simply posable legs.
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No.9184
>>9181
It's more about just making something that they think will make a good toy, rather than having it be a practical-looking alien vehicle that matches well with the setting's aesthetic.
>>9182
>They easily could have Technic that shit up, but that also would have jacked the price up another ten bucks, and kiddies wouldn't have enjoyed a version with simply posable legs.
This in a nutshell.
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No.9697
>>9178
>pic 2
I don't even bother looking at the SW section of the Lego aisle anymore. Please tell me that's not a real kit.
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No.9787
>>9182
If only. That's a $50 set (US, heaven help you if you live somewhere like Australia).
>>9697
It's real, but from what I've seen, Lego's gotten a fair bit of shit for it. The only excuse they could have (and a weak one at that) would be if they were out-Jewed by Disney with faulty pre-production information.
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No.9808
>>9787
>It's real
That's completely absurd. I've been sitting here trying to come up with something clever to say for a few minutes now and I've got nothing. That model is its own punchline.
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No.9831
>>9787
> That's a $50 set
>$50 set
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No.9840
>>5817
>>5818
I didn't even pay attention the crew numbers for these ships until recently. According to this book, Poe Damaron only lost roughly 20 pilots in exchange for killing over 200,000 First Order personnel at the start of TLJ.
Venators only needed a crew of 7,400 in total and they were just fine at bombarding planetary bases in the same way this dreadnought was used in the movie. Why would a slightly up-scaled star destroyer need over 200,000 aboard at all times and why would it need 53,000 officers just to function if I'm right in assuming that most of the weapons and technical staff are included among the 140,000 enlisted personnel instead of the officer personnel. These are the sorts of numbers you'd expect in Warhammer 40k. A comparison from the same book is that resistance capital ships like the "Raddus" can be run with some effectiveness by a skeleton crew of only 1000, and one of those frigates has a skeleton crew of 170 and both manage this through the magic of automation. Are we expected to believe that the First Order have never heard of automation or did the Disney intern who wrote this pull the numbers straight out of their ass?
It made sense that the Death Star had an enormous crew because it was one of a kind. Han Solo didn't even recognize it as a space station at first because nobody had ever seen a ship that big before. Ordinary warships shouldn't need to carry a small country's population around with them in the Star Wars setting, especially when it only serves to make the First Order's kill/death ratio so embarrassing.
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No.9908
>>9173
This is just embarrassing, to the point where I actually wonder how Lego could justify releasing this thing. If toy companies could find their balls Star Wars might get reigned in somewhat.
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No.9927
Is there a schematic of imperial star destroyers and frigates?
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No.9931
>>9178
I didn't want to believe it, but holy hell that's trash.
Just for comparison, here's a slightly older set with just as much, if not more.
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No.9941
>>9931
>rose
>finn
>the ball droid
>50 quid
What the fuck were lego thinking
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No.9956
>>9173
I don't even want to comprehend this abomination.
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No.9977
>>9941
Look at the product descriptions for a moment, just reflect on the content that Lego decided was worth mentioning about their products for a moment. I feel like that says something.
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No.9990
>>9977
>the lego group
>copyrights everywhere
>inspirational
kill me now
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No.10000
The problem I have with every design in the Disney trilogy is the lack of coherent vision for the art style.
On one hand, there's the new destroyer. From the outside it looks overly complicated, it's like it's in two pieces, half of it is held by those weird pillars. On the other hand, you have the armored troop carrier with the uninspired design. It's just a landing craft assault from WWII. They didn't even try to make something Star-Wars-y.
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No.10003
>>6925
Star Destroyers in the OT do have that setup. It's in all the reference books though it really only shows up in the Rogue Squadron games.
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No.10007
>>9990
The Lego Movie lied to me.
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No.10016
>>9990
Exactly, there is nothing noteworthy, nothing memorable, nothing iconic, nothing that anybody is going to care about and they know it, so they just cut straight to the corporate shit because they know it's not even worth their effort to try and give it purpose, that's how dispassionate a product it is.
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No.10046
>>10000
Star Wars is becoming increasingly indistinct under Disney's interns. A lot of the vehicle and sound design for TFA and TLJ reminded me of Mass Effect more than anything.
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No.10051
>>10046
That design always bugged me since it seemed like it was easy to attack since they only have one way out. At least with the Clone Wars era the drop ships opened from the sides kind of like helicopters nowadays.
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No.10052
>>10046
Speaking about the sound design, they've hired someone else for TLJ. I think there was an article about Ben Burtt last november where he was saying that even he didn't understand why they didn't contact him. It sounds like a deliberate attempt at getting rid of those who made Star Wars an iconic piece of entertainment.
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No.10054
People mocked George and his design process, who's laughing now though?
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No.10059
>>10046
>Mass Effect
Wouldn't surprise me if they admitted that EA was involved in some way.
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No.10078
Is there any cross section images of the heavy fighter craft the rebels used in Rogue One? That's like the only Disney era new ship design I've actually liked so far.
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No.10085
>>10046
What a bizarre design. The pilot gets into the cockpit via the galaxy's tiniest elevator, and then he just… stands there? The guy doesn't even get to take a seat while piloting? Why are there no seats in the troop bay? I know the LAAT/i didn't have seats there either, but that's because most its troop bay's perimeter consists of doors. This thing just has a ton of unused wall space.
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No.10096
>>10046
>>10085
Shit I didn't see the tiny elevator.
>"cockpit positioned to maximize landing zone visibility"
It's a tiny window and the pilot can only see what's in front of him.
At least in WWII the pilot could see all around him.
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No.10108
>>10096
And the cockpit's in the back of the craft on top of that, looking at the angles he'd barely be able to see over all the roof in front of him.
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No.11141
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No.11146
>>9931
wait, hol up
>they're literally trying to sell an AT-ST with missing pieces
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No.11175
>>11146
Is that a new AT-ST? It looks like there's not enough room for 2 people. Did they made it only for this shitty scene?
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No.11298
>>11146
Yep. We're getting broken shit now.
>>11175
Looks like a really cramped one seater. Did they even bother to properly measure the damn things?
>>10054
Despite his handling of the continuity, the man was brilliant with visuals and effects. At the time people bitched about him using CGI (which admittedly he did go overboard with in Episode II and III), but Episode I was the perfect balance of the two and its effects have aged wonderfully. Some textures, like Jabba's, do look a bit flat, but the shading helps to mask that. Episodes II and III also have some really impressive CGI, but for some reason it looks really cheap on the older DVDs. Not sure why.
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No.11375
>>11298
Not so much. You could see the empty look in Liam Neeson's eyes when he "interacted" with Watto and the Gungas. The CGI was terrible at times.
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No.11417
>>5831
No the resistance bomber is literally just a b-17 with a mag extension
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No.11432
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No.11436
>>11417
Now that you mentioned… i can't unsee, the spell is broken.
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No.11459
>>11417
fuck, i didn't even realize i wrote b-52, i meant the flying fortress.
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No.12269
>>11417
>>11432
>>11436
>>11459
Worse still, Paige catches the bomb remote release in zero g, presses the button to open the bomb bay doors, and the bombs _FALL_ out in a zero g space environment!
Also did you notice Finn was trying to desert the Raddus in an escape pod, then later on was about to sacrificing his life? Complete inconsistency of character.
My pet peeve was Chewy not chewing meat.
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No.12270
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No.12271
>>12269
>Complete inconsistency of character.
you mean finn "i don't want to kill unless it's the people i used to serve with"?
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No.12275
>>12271
No.
Finn A - complete coward, hiding and running away.
Finn B - selfless and brave, willing to give his life up for the Resistance.
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No.12306
>>12275
but don't you get it anon? finn breaking up the city of greedy shmucks made him realize that there's more to life than dying to protect the ones you love
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No.12325
>>5833
>beings
calm down, that term's been in use since the mid-90s in Star Wars, it was in the manuals for the old X-wing flightsims and the d6 rpg books.
>>5834
>frigates landing
Acclamators, Venators, CR-90s and MC80s can all land and those flying wing dropships at the beginning of episode 1 were iirc low end of frigate-size, it's not that much of a stretch
>>5879
>B-17 in space
it could have worked if they threw in a few seconds of exposition about 'these are not designed to do this, they're planetary assault bombers' or 'these are old or unsuccessful and we know they're shit, but it's all we got left fugg', and both of these could have built dramatic tension, but fuck doing that, having a coherent plot means nerds will hold you to a semidecent standard and we can't have that, also we need to sell toys and Y-wings are have fiddly bits that are tough to make into toys and B-wings look like crosses
The design itself annoys me, it looks like they stuck a blocky fin on a bomber airplane and then forgot about putting enough guns on it
>spacing was shit, they cooked each other off
yeah, that's one of those retarded tropes movies and animu need to stop fucking doing
>Poe singlehandedly destroying deck guns
that was fucking retarded
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No.12332
>>12325
>Y-wings are have fiddly bits that are tough to make into toys
What?
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No.12375
>>12332
He's probably referring to the fact that the middle portion of a Y-Wing is basically a solid mass of greeblies, which doesn't lend itself to being reproduced as a toy.
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No.12376
>>12375
That and/or the long struts coming off of the back end of the engine pods.
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No.12377
>>12332
>Y-wings are have fiddly bits
Sloppy editing on my part, sorry. I meant to say that Y-wings have fiddly bits, and was referring to the four long thin struts on each of the sublight engine nacelles, but as >>12375 points out, they're also made of greebles and tougher to make toys out of than something like an X-wing or A-wing
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No.14081
>>12269
If you want to get technical, the bombs were only preserving the momentum they had gained in the artificial gravity within starship.
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No.14082
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No.14083
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No.14097
>>14081
what artificial gravity/momentum? you do realize the bay doors open directly into space and everyone above in the cockpit is exposed to it, right? the release mechanism is some kind of magnetic lock that pushes the bombs out.
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No.14104
>>9840
>200,000 First Order personnel
lel, that's 40k-tier except there most ships rely on copious amounts of backbreaking manual labour to run and fight. These people must be publishing crap like this to have a laugh at the nerds who buy these books.
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No.14105
>>14104
That assumes they have a sense of humor, outside poor Fry.
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