No.23292 [View All]
Major hot whites, crushing blacks, green tint, less detailed than the Harmy version.
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No.23373
>>23370
Or maybe you're overly defensive towards your little project. Its a shittier version of the despecialized edition with a shitty tint.
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No.23405
4k83 is hardly perfect either..
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No.23406
>>23337
>>23335
>>23334
I've seen 1977 Star Wars more times that I would like to admit but I'm still surprised more people haven't realised yet that there are in fact four colors of Imperial uniforms: black, white/cream, light gray and gray/feldgrau.
Only the gray/feldgrau and less so black officer tunics were carried over to ESB and ROTJ.
This is easily seen in the movie itself, but HD production stills and other materials are specially helpful. Look at this image from the conference room scene. From left to right we have:
- Unnamed officer in light gray.
- Helmeted Imperial guard in black (standing).
- Unnamed officer in gray/feldgrau (he's the one that delivers the scouting mission report from Dantooine to Tarkin later on).
- Yularen in white/cream (notice the difference in tone with the first officer, it crearly isn't just because of the lighting).
- Motti in gray/feldgrau.
The light gray tunic is the same color as the overalls worn by the scanning crew in SW and the Executor bridge crew in ESB. The white/cream is not to be seen again in the Original Trilogy.
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No.23407
>>23406
Oops, I forgot I had this other pic.
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No.23408
>>23405
..but it's an interesting way to watch ROTJ because of the paler color palette. I like having multiple versions of the same movie. Tatooine looks pretty dull and early on it makes Endor look like it has that early morning mist (reminds me of Yavin 4 from SWTOR) And not taking into account cherry picked shots like the one I posted above, sometimes the 2160p is actually obvious and does provide some improvement.
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No.23409
>>23408
this zack snyder version of endor is my favourite thing about 4k83. Variety is the spice of life.
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No.23416
it seems to me that the 4k project is best for purist, autistic preservation, while Despecialized is best for watching.
also, learning about feldgrau has given me even more respect for the nazis tbh
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No.23419
>>23366 checked
It makes Han the good guy the entire film, before he went from an illegal smuggler who had no issue with killing in cold blood (though Greedo was pointing a blaster at his face) and only cared about money, to come back at the end and save his friends at his own risk. Now that greedo shoots first Han is the natural good guy that tries to act like he doesn’t care, that Soylo spent the whole movie telling us he is. Now there is no progression of his character because he’s just good guy acting tough to a good guy.
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No.23421
>>23329
Then I'd rather have a black & white version than a blurry damaged original scan.
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No.23424
>>23373
>Or maybe you're overly defensive towards your little project.
Are you unironically implying I am part of TN1?
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No.23425
>>23405
>Unironically using the 2011 BD for comparison
Atleast use Despecialized or GOUT.
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No.23428
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No.23429
Calibrate your fucking monitors, 4K77 looks fine
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No.23438
>>23425
I don't give a shit about that basement dweller fan edit crap, I only watch the based and redpilled, lucas & hitler approved 2011 complete saga blu-ray set
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No.23452
>>23429
>he watches on a monitor
It's shitty quality and print no matter the calibration
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No.23467
>>23452
Its not shitty but its not perfect either. The visual works best when on Endor, but its not a picture I'd prefer over the original. I'm sure some might thought.
>>23428
Its actually an improvement.
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No.23474
>>23467
I'm talking about The 4K77 of Star Wars a new hope, despecialized is by far the best print
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No.23481
>>23362
>Literally name one thing wrong with ANH and ESB's SE
krayt dragon yelp being redone because muh banthas and the sheev scream being added to luke as he falls to his death
other than that you're right, the SEs are better
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No.23482
>>23371
you're an idiot. SSE is the actual film reel copy bumped up into 1080p res, it doesn't get any closer to the theatrical release than that.
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No.23485
>>23482
>SSE is the actual film reel copy bumped up into 1080p res
So is 4K77 you dumbass
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No.23486
>>23474
>despecialized is by far the best print
It's not a print, it's a fan edit.
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No.23489
>>23485
ok, then explain to me why 4k77 looks like shit and sse looks like gold?
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No.23493
>>23489
But 4K77 looks objectively better, it's sharper and less grainy than SSE. Literally the only thing the SSE has going for it is slightly better color and even then the regrades for 4K77 nullify that.
Compare pic related to OP's screenshot of 4K77: 4K77 looks alot better,
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No.23494
>>23493
>>23493
pic is from the SSE btw
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No.23503
>>23493
it's only "better" because it does away with the film grain, but that removes the authentic theatrical effect, and thus is gay as fuck and inferior to sse.
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No.23507
>>23503
How exactly does it "remove the authentic theatrical effect" simply by having less grain? The movie is the exact same as the SSE, it's just in a better quality.
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No.23510
>>23507
does it have all the cigarette burns and shit?
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No.23517
>>23503
>but that removes the authentic theatrical effect
But the SSE is not a theatrical print, it’s a dupe print. A print struck from another print.
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No.23520
>>23517
it's literally a couple of 35mm prints thrown together
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No.23551
>>23510
I saw some in 4k83
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No.23587
>>23486
It's a fan edit of prints to make a print that looks better than any print available to buy or download
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No.23606
>>23587
Not really, Harmy is not working on a new 1080p version that uses various prints. The current version still uses multiple SE sources making alot of shots look jarringly blurry, pic related
Currently, 4K77 and SSE are still the best versions for viewing but I think the next version of Despecialized is going to change that. Especially now that Harmy is now aiming to recreate what a faithful Blu-Ray release would look like instead of what a film print looks like/
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No.23607
>>23606
>Harmy is not working on a new 1080p version that uses various prints.
Fuck, worded that terribly. I meant that the current version of Despecialized is still using SD sources.
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No.23683
>>23292
>>23328
>>23428
>>23606
Here's the real litmus test. What color are the two closest squares of this particular rank badge in each version? Yellow? Red?
PROTIP: They are yellow.
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No.23711
>>23683
>PROTIP: They are yellow.
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No.23725
>>23711
It makes sense, though. It's the only way the ANH color wheel rank badge theory works.
I read about it on theforce(dot)net forums (yeah, I know, I know…) from the guy that supposedly sent it to West End Games along with what would become their ESB/ROTJ Imperial rank guide back in the eighties (see pic related).
Notice how in A New Hope every senior officer in a gray/feldgrau or black uniform has a badge of six squares, which are either all of the same color or a mix between two of them but always a 4+2 combination. You just have to picture a wheel with eighteen colored squares (6 blue + 6 yellow + 6 red) out of which you can take any six square "rank badge".
This theory vindicates John Mollo, the uniform designer, whose work in ANH has always been terribly misinterpreted and/or ignored, specially by fags like Pablo Hidalgo.
Sage for off-topic.
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No.23729
>>23725
And what about the light gray or white/cream-clad officers like Yularen? Well, you may notice that they have 3+3 badges, which are also easily explained by the use of this color wheel.
Again, sage for off-topic, although it would be much appreciated if somebody could post a comparison pic of this >>23683 scene.
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No.23793
>>23725
the color wheel is superior imo.
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No.23802
also, you could combine the use of 2 rows and different #s of squares along with the color wheel. it's 2018, there's no reason we shouldn't have a consistent standard for Imperial rank insignia.
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No.23803
>>23725
Pablo Hidalgo is an obnoxious faggot who only makes the lore with his own personal desires and views. Anything he says is worth jack shit
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No.23806
>look up Pablo Hidalgo
>Pablo Hidalgo is a Chilean-Canadian creative executive, currently working for Lucasfilm on the Star Wars franchise and member of the Lucasfilm Story Group.
into the trash he goes
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No.23807
>>23806
Doesn't help that he was also a huge Chuck Wendig, JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson defender who shat on the fans regularly and puts politics above the lore he claims to care for. Also his stories suck dick.
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No.23834
>>23807
I kinda guessed all that as soon as I read the blurb, but thanks for confirming.
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No.24925
>comparing the DEED
despecialized use the BD with its shit colors and a shitton of sharpening to it, this is useless
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No.24931
>>24925
And it's still better than 4K77, sad.
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No.24932
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No.24973
>>24932
that shits different though
you are the one who went to cuckchan to find that also
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No.26820
>>23322
It looks more green because OP downloaded the inferior DNR version. The Non-DNR version is still a bit green, the colors are still shit, blacks are crushed into oblivion. still fucking awful any which way you look at it.
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No.26821
>>26820
Case in point, Not as green but still fucked. Silver Screen Edition is still the objective king.
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No.26824
>>23493
>4K77 looks objectively better
The only thing it has going for it is the higher resolution. All a regrade would do is polish a shit print. A regrade would not rectify the black levels. You are totally blind if you can't see how much better SSE is to anything else out currently.
>it's sharper and less grainy than SSE
The DNR version is, but Digital Noise Reduction gets rid of detail inherently. It's bad.
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