5d1638 No.405
>Most villain vs hero stories follow the "David vs Goliath" format, i.e. little goy overcoming big goy
>Khan is the opposite, he uses his wits and intelligence to overcome the hero who holds all the cards
>End result is that appears as both deadly and intimidating
Is this why he is considering an iconic movie villain?
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a13f0d No.429
>>405
I don't really know if he would have been as successful as a movie villian without the tv villain laying the groundwork.
What a phenomenal film though. I just wish they'd recognize that it was made for a different time and audience and stop trying to fucking remake it.
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83cdcd No.485
It's because of Hannibal Barca
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2445dd No.595
>>405
Khan is Bane. Deadly, strong, intelligent, but with the fatal flaw of arrogance.
Can someone please explain to me why an Indian named "Khan Noonien Singh" is played by a Mexican and a white British lizard monster?
>Pic related: I had some kind of hope that Naveen Andrews from Lost would have gotten the nod this time, especially considering JJ's past working relationship with him.
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ffefc7 No.604
>>595
he looked pretty indian in the show, once he grew out his hair he looked more mexican though
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2445dd No.612
>>604
I guess. I just don't understand why they didn't make the character Spanish, instead.
**Of course, then we'd have Star Trek II: The Wrath of Don or something.
Blame it on my spergism, but race-lifting always gets up my nose, no matter which way it's going. If M*A*S*H ever had an actual Korean playing a Korean, I'd be highly surprised. Don't even get me started on the shit that routinely happens in the Marvel movies and comics.
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ffefc7 No.623
>>612
why the fuck did don quixote never appear in the holodeck
this is a fucking crime
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2445dd No.624
>>623
Oh, hey now, I hope that's not your way of disparaging Flotter T. Faggot Water, there.
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a13f0d No.634
>>624
24th century's merch game is weak.
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2445dd No.695
>>634
>24th century's merch game is weak.
Not to mention the fact that that's the sort of doll that would terrify small children. Look at that saurian mouth. Naomi should have shit her pants and run for it when Harry Quim showed up with it.
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a13f0d No.697
>>695
It looks like it could peel its face off several times and still have a bunch underneath.
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a1cd0e No.7532
>Nu Trek II, the Wrath of Dukat never ever
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e20cd5 No.7771
>>595
>is played by a Mexican
It works pretty well
>and a white British lizard
I got nothing for that but the movie is trash so I can't bring myself to care.
Though I think Khan was supposed to be one of the "white" Indians and not a southern streetshitter.
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b1158f No.12659
Khan was from a period where movie villains were movie villains, ayys were ayys, and xenos were something you shot with a raifu in the jungles of Indonesia.
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aa4c86 No.13205
>>7532
>Swole Trek II, the Wrath of the Jockstrap
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09fae1 No.13825
>>13205
Think this is now a possibility since Quentin Cuckatino is on board for a nu-Trek film?
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3afe80 No.13858
>>7532
Are you picturing real Dukat to vaporise all of the everything in Star Trek: The Rebooticon? Because I'm just imagining what nutrek would do to Dukat. It is not a pleasant image.
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1b8c0a No.13870
>>13858
Share that image with us. The night is young.
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d8387f No.16624
After rewatching the TOS episode where Khan first appears, it is clear that the entire plot is about him searching for the perfect waifu. Quite literally he says "a superior woman!" a lot.
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3f2421 No.19636
To turn this into a villain general is Khan the only good villain Trek has had? I know Chang was good but he was more a face rather than the true villain which was Starfleet Borg Queen cucked the Collective. Shinzon was a confused Tom Hardy trembling before he became a Big Guy.
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8e3f82 No.19656
>>19636
Commander Kruge in ST:TSFS
The Cardassian torture master in TNG Chain of Command
Annorax from VOY One Year of Hell
I've never watched Deep Snooze 9, so I don't know any villians from there.
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5a5df6 No.19681
>>19656
Eddington, Dukat and Herbert West from DS 9 where good.
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80bdc5 No.19682
>>19681
>Dukat
>villain
>implying
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976707 No.19688
>>405
The recent remake would have been better had nuKhan immediately phaser stunned and then restrained Kirk and the chick, by breaking their arms and tying them up. Then beaming out the rest of the hostile crew. And then, when he contacts Spock, he directly asks for his people. And when Spock points to where the torpedoes are, nuKhan gives the Enterprise some light phaser fire for getting cute with him, and energizes part of the bridge crew into space, and puts a timer up for Spock letting him know exactly how long those crewman have before they can't be healed back up.
Then Spock fesses up, orders that area powered down, nuKhan retrieves one of them, inspects and confirms, beams back the bridge crew and beams out the remainder of his people, has some robots secure them, then he sends back Kirk and the girl, and hauls ass away, detecting Federation vessels in hot pursuit, but falling behind because the Vengeance is that much faster.
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ac7f7c No.19692
>>19681
We're talking about villains here, not heroes of the people.
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85505d No.19693
>>19688
>The recent remake would have been better
I’m just going to stop you there. Unless you’re going to say ‘make Benedict Cumberfdjwjwuash a distinct new character’ it won’t work.
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976707 No.19695
>>19693
…or, get this, don't use Benedict Cumberbitch
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7e4ba1 No.19700
>>19695
I like to call him "Bentdick Cummysnatch." I'm not a fan.
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b86e70 No.19709
>>19700
Cummingdick Bandersnatch.
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2b492b No.19718
>>19695
True, but putting Khan in the movie and making him some weepy faggot who loves his crew was stupid.
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976707 No.19753
>>19718
>>19718
>some weepy faggot who loves his crew was stupid.
Um what? He loved his crew to begin with anyways.
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1a77d4 No.19759
>>19753
At least with the original we actually got to see his crew.
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7b41d0 No.19846
>>19759
And to think all he wanted was to create the perfect waifu?
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c66175 No.24727
>>624
>>634
>>695
>Implayin generating fear in children is not part of the ingenious psychological child control the federation uses to create perfect drones.
I mean look at Krampus thats some child control IRL.
In the federation the simply discovered having a traumatizing "out of pans labyrinth" teacher simply makes the little fuckers study forever.
Or do you think any child will ever think of disobeying this teacher?
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76eb9f No.27761
>>595
>Can someone please explain to me why an Indian named "Khan Noonien Singh" is played by a Mexican and a white British lizard monster?
Casting Cumberbatch was pretty obvious stunt casting. He's not a bad actor, but at the moment his most marketable skill is his ability to make 'lol I'm sooooo nerdy' American girls cream their panties and hand over their cash.
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ce1ee7 No.27762
>>19753
Not especially. If you watch the episode and wrath of ohan they are important to him as his servants but he's quite happy to order their deaths.
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8af958 No.27763
>>695
>harry quim
I giggled
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4203aa No.27764
>>405
>Khan
>an iconic movie villain?
[speaks in Shakespeare]
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2e93c7 No.27765
>>27764
>Chang
>Villain
He did nothing wrong.
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e3fb81 No.27766
>>27765
Chang was Klingon Intelligence Services level competent.
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e3fb81 No.27773
>>27767
Chang got federation assassins to kill his political enemy, built a bird of prey that could fire while cloaked, and was kicking the shit out of a Constitution class and an Excelsior class warship until Spock and McCoy did hax to a torpedo with a mere Bird of Prey. And the second they launched the torpedo he knew he was screwed.
In Star Trek: Klingon Academy, he teleported aboard a rebel Klingon's ship and killed him in a knife fight, ending the rebellion.
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76eb9f No.27775
>>27773
Sooo …. Ultra-Chad?
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5a5618 No.27776
>>27773
You also forget that he was the underdog in a 3 Way Klingon Civil War yet still managed to come out tops in the end.
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697828 No.27778
>>27776
Chang was by far the best Klingon. Instead of being a loud shouty caricature he was a quiet and cool-headed warrior.
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2e93c7 No.27782
>>27778
He was the /bane/ of Star Trek.
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1477d9 No.27821
>>595
There's no shortage of Bollywood actors they could have injected roids into to play Khan, Cabbagepatch was chosen soley for name recognition, and it probably did help ticket sales to be honest.
The Chinese are making REAL augments now, I can't wait to see if in 20 years a fat Canadian can beat one up with a cheap plastic pipe despite being 5 times weaker.
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1477d9 No.27822
>>19682
>Work tirelessly to improve the lives of your happy workers
>not a single statue of you on Bajor
;_;
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cec8e5 No.27885
>>485
Explain. Who is Hannibal here? Because the Romans had such a huge vengeance boner for Hannibal, not the otherway arround.
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b47085 No.27889
>>27885
Not true. Hannibal hated the Romans considerably. The war was fought mostly with Carthage's tepid support.
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352b93 No.27892
>>27885
Hannibal hated the Romans pretty deeply fam. Roman mythology even suggests his existence was the product of Dido swearing a dying curse of vengeance on Rome. He was also determined enough in his quest to fuck up the Romans that he frogmarched a bunch of elephants through the Alps.
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6b48a6 No.27914
Why don't we have a Chang thread?
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