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Who says Ferengi are weak. Their strength lies in their hearts and brains. You have never seen Quark walk away from danger and his pictured brother always makes the right decision. Even when tempted. These are real strengths.

>>32283

I was speaking in a very literal sense there. How much could they bench/how far could they run, etc..

If anything I would expect the kind of strength to which you refer to be improved. As a civilization the Ferengi are already a force to be reckoned with. Add Vulcan discipline and I think they'd be able to eat the Dominion for breakfast.

>>32281

>What would a half-Vulcan half-Ferengi look like?

Weakened Ferengi features, no nose or face ridges, much less pronounced/pointy ears, less disgusting teeth

>What do you get when you cross the Rules of Acquisition with the Teachings of Surak?

Self hating ascetics.

>Vulcan discipline with Ferengi business savvy?

Aren't those traits cultural rather than genetic?

Also wouldn't these poor bastards be likely to be sterile, like a mule?

race mixing is never acceptable

>>32300

>Weakened Ferengi features, no nose or face ridges, much less pronounced/pointy ears, less disgusting teeth

Ok, I can get behind this. Kinda like B'elanna's forehead.

>Self hating ascetics.

Why? Spock said Vulcan merchants were a thing. Nothing about their beliefs says they can't engage in trade.

>Aren't those traits cultural rather than genetic?

I may have been unclear. I meant to imply a cultural merging as well, resulting from a mixed upbringing.

>Also wouldn't these poor bastards be likely to be sterile, like a mule?

Trek logic tends to handwave things like that out of existence. Half-breeds still tend to have kids.

>>32301

If you think about it, it's really just two breeds of (((chosen people))).

>>32283

The Ferengi are a joke species, and Quark never runs from a threat because he's portrayed as the "brave Ferengi".

It's even fucking hilarious how the Ferengi have figured out interstellar travel, because that requires long-term planning that doesn't yield any profit. All space programs are government funded and Musk only does it because he's a scam that lives off public subsidies. I assume the Ferengi have stolen that technology. There is even a dialog between Nog and Quark where they admit it's kinda scary how humans have figured out warp capability so fast when the Ferengi needed hundreds of years for it.

Also the scariest thing about this is because you have to imagine a Vulcan having sex with a Ferengi. I'm not kinkshaming here, but Jesus, that Vulcan has some fucked up fetishes.

>>32308

This Vulcan clearly wanted to get QUARKed.

>>32306

That one race had tech that did the handwaiving,

>>32309

He was a fag not to hit that.

>>32307

>It's even fucking hilarious how the Ferengi have figured out interstellar travel

Can we add them to the list of strek species that would have been lucky to reach the industrial revolution then?

>>32308

>Also the scariest thing about this is because you have to imagine a Vulcan having sex with a Ferengi

Given how strong the average Vulkan is,and how worked up they tend to get in the Pon Farr they'd need to even consider it, wouldn't that end up with a wailing Ferengi who only had a few intact bones left?

>>32310

it's heavily implied that he did hit that at the end of the episode.

>>32315

most of these niggers don't realize T'pol got

PHLOXED

either

>>32315

I have no memory of that. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

>>32307

>It's even fucking hilarious how the Ferengi have figured out interstellar travel, because that requires long-term planning that doesn't yield any profit.

Didn't they just buy it off someone else?

>>32307

>It's even fucking hilarious how the Ferengi have figured out interstellar travel, because that requires long-term planning that doesn't yield any profit.

Um, their religion is that interplanetary trade is profitable. You can't do that if you can't into interstellar travel.

>All space programs are government funded

That doesn't mean it could only be government funded. It just means that governments prioritized it before the market did. Besides, nothing is said about the role of the FCA in the development of interstellar travel. All that's said (somewhere?) is that the Ferengi bought warp drive. Why reinvent the wheel when somebody's selling it for a good price?

>>32308

The Pon Farr is strong. Breed or die.

>>32309

I bet she gives great oo-mox.

>>32310

>That one race had tech that did the handwaiving,

Which race? I don't remember. It's not mentioned in the Memory Alpha article.

>Because of the common genetic ancestry of most of the species of the Milky Way Galaxy by way of the ancient humanoids, many species were able to interbreed with or without the help of genetic technology. (TNG: "The Chase") According to Doctor Phlox, Humans and Vulcans were quite similar. (ENT: "Demons")

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hybrid

>>32314

I believe it. It's consistent with the Vulcans' established attitudes.

>>32319

Yes

>A temporal incident caused a quasi-first contact with Humans in 1947. After they had purchased warp drive technology, the Ferengi encountered spacefaring Humans as early as 2151, albeit in a covert manner without disclosing their identity. Despite the Battle of Maxia in 2355, official first contact with the Federation did not occur until 2364. (ENT: "Acquisition"; TNG: "The Last Outpost", "The Battle"; DS9: "Little Green Men")

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi#Contact_with_Humanity

>>32307

Imagine being so low-IQ you can't imagine a scenario where long-term thinking and profitability coincide.

>>32320

I swear they mention a race that gave the federation technology that allowed relatively trivial interspecies breeding, but now I can't find anything about it. Maybe it's from a different sci-fi franchise, but then where did I hear about it? Star Trek is the only sci-fi I'm into in any meaningful way.

>>32321

>Imagine being a nigger

FTFY

>>32339

>I swear they mention a race that gave the federation technology that allowed relatively trivial interspecies breeding

That does sound exactly like the sort of handwave a writer would come up with the first time someone asked why Spock wasn't a sterile freak plagued with crippling genetic diseases, and who would be lucky to see 30. So strek, at least potentially, has a species of degenerate precursors running around handing out tech and ideas. Handwave or not there could be some interesting stories in that.

>>32339

>>32342

There's also the fact that in Strek, all humanoid life was supposedly seeded across the galaxy by some ancient hyper-advanced race, giving them a common heritage.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Humanoid

>>32321

No, the Ferengi specifically value short-term profit. See Little Green Men:

>"It says here that humans didn't even have currency until 5,000 years ago, let alone banking, speculative investments, or a unified global economy."

>"They're a primitive, backward people, Nog. Pity them."

>"But think about it Uncle. That means they went from being savages with a simple barter system to leaders of a vast interstellar Federation in only 5,000 years! It took us twice that long to establish the Ferengi Alliance and we had to buy warp technology from the…"

>"5,000…10,000…what's the difference? The speed of technological advancement isn't nearly as important as short-term quarterly gains."

>>32345

To be fair, that just means Quark favors short-term profit over long-term. It doesn't necessarily mean all Ferengi are like that. Quark isn't, after all, an especially successful businessman, as far as Ferengi go. If the Ferengi didn't value long-term goals, they wouldn't have much of a futures market, and they have just that.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi_Futures_Exchange

But I think it's fair to say the writers didn't understand what they were talking about very well, so they're likely to show evidence both ways.

>>32344

i can't believe such a drastic piece of cannon was the result of a single TNG episode. I don't think it's ever brought up again anywhere else except for STO.

>>32346

>I think it's fair to say the writers didn't understand what they were talking about very well

>Group of hip socialist writers try to write a species of hypercapitalists and can't decide if they're villains or the comic relief

It was never going to go well.

>>32356

do ferengi even exist in STD or do the subhuman writers consider them too dangerous to even mention.

>>32357

The Ferengi were supposed to be somewhat unknown to Starfleet until they appeared in TNG. On top of that as I understand it STD doesn't have rights to the original Star Trek designs, those still belong to Paramount, so even if they did use them they'd have to redesign them. Not that it matters, nobody watches that aids infested shit.

>>32395

>I see you know a thing or two about making strawmen

You say that like it's hard to do.

The idea of a Vulcan Ferengi Hybrid is disgusting… Asians would have to be pretty desperate to fuck filthy jews.

>>32408

>Ferengi Civil War

I suppose that you could write that with mercenaries, but it would be much more entertaining (and in character) to have major Ferengi businessmen start an economic war with the Chamber of Commerce. I'm thinking a carefully coordinated battery of shorts, ponzi schemes, and fraudulent transactions (coupled with major businessmen moving their wealth into offworld solid assets) leading to the collapse of the value of Latinum and the Ferengi Alliance declaring bankruptcy. You could fill a fun double episode with Ferengi financial skulduggery, with development in short scenes and call outs for the rest of the series until Quark gets pulled into the reconsctruction of the Ferengi economy and starts railing against their introduction of a fiat currency (backed in dilithium due to Latinum still being worth less than the gold pressing) and pulling out the same good stuff he used in the 'THIS FAR, NO FURTHER!" scene

>>32414

I love this idea, except for two little concerns:

First is the latinum part; since it's a commodity money, they can only devalue it by refusing to use it, but the impact of even a large portion of the Ferengi refusing to trade can't do too much to the value since so much of the galaxy uses it.

Second is the idea of who the factions are. If anybody's pushing the reforms, it could only be the richest Ferengi. All these business regulations will disproportionately harm their smaller competitors. How can the startup compete with BigMcLargeCo(TM) when the cost of getting permits and compliance is more than half their revenue?

Of course the writers will never process that fact, so we'll never see The Great Swindling, where the poor of Ferengenar take tax evasion, unlicensed commerce, smuggling, welfare fraud, bribery, and defrauding the FCA to such glorious heights that the whole system collapses and harmony is restored to the Great Material Continuum.

>>32414

Wolf of Ferengiar?

>>32433

>First is the latinum part; since it's a commodity money, they can only devalue it by refusing to use it, but the impact of even a large portion of the Ferengi refusing to trade can't do too much to the value since so much of the galaxy uses it.

That's a fair point, and I'm not an economist, but couldn't you affect the value of a commodity currency by people refusing to use it in favour of other forms of exchange? Maybe there's a move to a more barter based system, or possibly even Ferengi Crypto Currencies tell me that wouldn't be beautiful to watch if it was well written and researched

>If anybody's pushing the reforms, it could only be the richest Ferengi

Now that is something I hadn't considered, makes all the sense though. Thanks for pointing it out. You could still get a small guy revolt among the Ferengi though, BigMcLargeCo (TM) still needs customers and employees after all - and while they have offworld, non-ferengi, clients those would start to evaporate once they started missing orders due to lack of labour at the factories back home (and even a Pakled would think twice before taking a job for a Ferengi boss when there's any other choice and the Ferengi is starting to hemorrhage money anyway).

>>32435

>Wolf of Ferengiar?

Maybe less board room shenanigans and more of a ground up AnCap revolution.

>>32358

even when robot chicken makes fun of something I like it's not funny

Would a Vulcan Ferengi Hybrid charge for spankings?

>>32461

Are you talking about them spanking you or for you spanking them? I don't think they'd be interested in the first one (they're not Romulans after all) and depending on whether the Vulcan side or the Ferengi side was stronger in their cultural upbringing they'd either love being spanked too much to charge you, or gouge you for every strip of latinum you would pay, on a per spank basis.