c92381 No.28505
on a ship like this doing constant exploration and whatever else starfleet assigns it to do 24 hours a day, shoulnd't there technically be three sets of senior crews (ie three captains + senior staff) working 3 shifts of 8 hours each, on account of the fact that the day/night cycle doesn't even exist? or does the enterprise just go hide in some neubla to idle for 12 to 16 hours when picard and the rest of the senior staff finish their shifts?
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2ac8fe No.28507
>>28505
They just got Data to run the ship while everyone was asleep.
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c92381 No.28508
>>28507
What about all the other ships in star fleet who didn't have Data?
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d1514d No.28510
I think one of the later season TNG episodes shows the regular bridge crew being relieved of their shift by some other crew members, but I can't remember for certain.
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c92381 No.28511
>>28510
yes but technically the "night shift crew" isn't supposed to be inherently any less important or powerful on account of the day/night cycle not even existing. unless the ship is supposed to just idle somewhere when picard and co are not on duty like i alluded to. but if the ship continues on it with her regular duties the "night shift crew" should theoretically just as important and powerful as the regular senior staff.
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2ac8fe No.28512
>>28508
I was giving a shitpost answer, but for truth what you will have is Officers working in shifts and typically first and second officer, and even third will not really work same time as the Captain.
There's a few times when they remember this and you will find that Worf or Data will be in command when Riker or Picard are off Duty. I'd recommend watching Data's Day actually as it covers the night shift. Voyager funny enough establishes that there are working shifts onboard where Captain isn't awake 24/7.
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c92381 No.28514
>>28512
so it's actually supposed to be Picard in command for 8 hours, then Riker in command for 8 hours, then say Data in command for 8 hours? this actually makes a lot of sense, but it is never actually portrayed that way.
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185a54 No.28515
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2ac8fe No.28518
>>28514
Pretty much, shown in several cases where this happens actually. It happens in TOS a lot funny enough where they cycle between who has Conn with a shift pattern established between Kirk, Spock, Scotty and Sulu.
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d1514d No.28519
>>28514
I guess they thought it'd be more interesting to follow Picard's shift most of the time. Or they just never really thought it through.
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c92381 No.28520
>>28519
yeah but if we see picard's shift most of the time shouldn't riker be sleeping. what riker does on picard's shift is something more along the lines of what an adjutant would do.
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e1fcc5 No.28523
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2ac8fe No.28524
>>28523
Jellico's shift pattern allows for more R&R time and essentially keep crew in better shape. Surprised they made such a bad deal out of it.
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c92381 No.28525
>>28524
wouldn't 4 shifts of 6 hours each as they were operating prior to jelico's arrival have more relaxation time though. either way it seems like such a trivial thing to be upset about. depicting jelico as an asshole or whatever seemed kind of hamfisted.
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4091ee No.28529
>>28514
Most times we are watching an episode, the ship is arriving at someplace. It makes sense thst senior staff would all be present for 'big' things like an ambassador's arrival or entering orbit of a newly discovered planet.
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387f7e No.28531
>>28514
Yeah, there are a few sequences in episodes where we see Picard is off-duty, then something important happens and whoever has the current shift calls him to the bridge.
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7b9605 No.28533
Keep in mind that while the shifts for junior and support staff are likely to be split into discreet crews that work defined shifts, senior staff will work longer shifts that overlap with a varied, unpredictable schedule in practice.
More shifts doesn't imply more people to fill them, so if your job is mostly just showing up and manning a post, you couldn't be happier because it means less boredom and more down time to fuck around on the holodeck. However, number of shifts means fuck all to senior staff. They probably do 12 hr shifts regardless so if there are 4 shifts, now they have fewer people available to do the actual work at any given time so they have to actually jump in and get their hands dirty to get the job done, at least until everyone adjusts.
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561ba8 No.28535
How many "officers of the watch" are there in modern ships? Just for comparison.
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36d700 No.28700
>>28505
Apparently they have 5 shifts, though in TNG I think Jellico opted for a 3 shift rotation, so the captain can choose between 3 to 5?
I'd rotate every single hour, for 37 shifts. Centaurian time, standard thirty-seven hour day. Give it a few months. You'll get used to it… or you'll have a psychotic episode.
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0007e2 No.28743
Enterprise D had a "standard 3 shift rotation" and Jellico wanted to shift it to 4- s06e10 - Chain of Command (Part 1)
I know Data, as the 2nd officer(dont know if his android attributes like lack of sleep contribute) leads the Night watch shift. Though he is shown to be relieved by Riker for the early watch, he is show relieving Worf to begin night watch because Picard went off duty to perfom Obriens wedding to Keiko- s04e11 - Data's Day
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4f6105 No.28759
I wonder if Spot commands a shift?
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e17597 No.28764
>>28759
I expect he turned it down, otherwise he'd have been in command during Descent instead of Beverly.
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fdec63 No.28779
Did someone say night-shift?
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36d700 No.28781
>>28525
>4*6
>assuming they'd use cucked Earth time
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36d700 No.28782
I would enjoy an incarnation of Star Trek in which the ship has 3 crews that we follow. Each shift would have a different approach to problems and a different mix of personalities…even if you hated one shift you could still have 8 episodes of only the shift you do like each season. Also officers can't leave the bridge.
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29a704 No.28854
>>28512
Ensign Kim was in command of the Night Shift in Voyager, even.
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9fc955 No.28870
>>28854
Only cause they didn't have a garbage scow.
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fecc5e No.29135
>>28779
I expect some fapfiction to go with this anon.
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a2684c No.30081
>>28743
The very idea that there would even BE a "night shift" on a fucking starship is ludicrous. Even if we assume that they have an artificial day and night period, it wouldn't always sync up with whatever part of whatever planet they were arriving at. If you have a diplomatic meeting with some people at 9am local time, but it's 0300 Enterprise time, you're kinda fucked.
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94c19e No.30085
>>30081
Why is this an unsolvable problem to you? The Enterprise probably runs on GMT and then has the concept of local time when arriving at a planet.
What is the alternative, no clocks?
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8d0a0c No.30086
In merchant navy ships shifts are 6 hours on and 6 hours off, the captain is in charge of one sift and the XO is in charge of the other.
Don't tell me you've never noticed some ensign in charge of the bridge on star trek? It happens all the time, it's just that only interesting things happen to the main crew.
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b42c48 No.30097
>>30085
Time is based on Stardate, which is just a more advanced take on Unix Time.
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949e31 No.30105
>>28505
The ship's computer is so advanced that it can do literally everything and solve literally every problem itself.
The crew are essentially just LARPing as space adventurers because spending all day in the holodeck back on Earth is depressing, but they're completely superfluous in a practical sense.
Their control consoles aren't even really hooked up to anything.
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16d857 No.30106
>>28779
>>29135
Second.
>>30105
>spending all day in the holodeck back on Earth is depressing
So Star Fleet is populated by those too weak to embrace NEET nirvana?
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3b6a77 No.30109
>>30106
depressing for the computers
humans are just basically pets by this point
and I mean _this_ point
beep boop
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d84fbd No.30113
I wonder if there is a ship just dedicated to changing Ezri's diapers?
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b8ee9c No.30119
>>30109
What if the computers had secretly taken over but humans were too dumb to realize it?
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9fc955 No.30236
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