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File: 99fcb7a75856104⋯.jpg (91.48 KB,636x453,212:151,Borg_tactical_drone.jpg)

170798 No.28041

I mean, it's pretty obvious the Borg got hit with the nerf bat in VOY, but Dark Frontier makes it almost too fucking hard for me to watch. I mean, the bio dampener of the Hansons which was also used by the Yoyager crew isn't a cloak, right? But, uhm, the Borg have bloody eyes?! In fact, they even have supposedly better eyesight through the cybernetic implants. Borg drones can hear as well (and the scanner of Janeway makes noise), or smell. In the finale of the episode, Janeway enters the "throne room" of the Borg Queen who immediately notices her, because, of course, she has eyes. I really wonder why they decided not to make the bio dampener a cloak, they made the same logical mistake with the Delta Flyer's "shield modulation" which supposedly hides them from their sensors, but isn't a cloak, but on the Borg Queen's viewscreen the shuttlecraft just vanishes, as if it was cloaked. Technological wise it also isn't such an ingenious technology, considering even contemporary military works on technology to shield soldiers from heat detection.

One possible solution would be the fact that the eyesight of a drone would function completely via their neural implants, like an artifical eye, with the biological eye being replaced, and that the optical implants can't process biological life as such if their life signs are dampened. If this would be true, this seems like a horrible flaw of the Borg (and there are quite a bit already). And even then, you'd assume that they can input a command to put the optical implant on stand-by and order the drones to use their "normal" eyesight again. I mean, in the episode where Seven of Nine got stranded with a few other drones on a planet, they start cooking food and other stuff as an emergency back-up routine that is activated when isolated.

Don't misunderstand me, it is still a good episode, because the looming dread in this two-parter, that is really well done, and it probably has the most horror movie like scene in all of Star Trek (Seven witnessing assimlation of a species as they scream and cry in pain in the background and she watches them being mutilated), which makes it one of the best Yoyager episodes, but this really puts me off it. I assume this is another case of inventing an "off-trigger" of a villain that the writers created to be too overpowered, but I always think of this as a bit of a deus ex machina. I mean, let me compare it to the original Terminator (1984). The T-800 is also a bit like the Borg, he is relentless, he can't be bargained with, he can't be reasoned with, he will not stop until you are dead. You can't fight him, you can't outrun him. Of course, Sarah and Kyle win at the end but only after they wear him down with everything at their disposal, Kyle dies, and even when they burn his entire flesh off, he still comes back, even if they blow his entire abdomen off with a grenade at point-blank range, he STILL keeps coming and almost kills Sarah until he is literally squished to pieces in a steel press. Of course, you can't go through a procedure like that in a episodical show everytime the Borg show up, but Species 8472 was an authentic solution, only a species from a parallel universe could be a believable "cryptonite" for the Borg, but the obvious weaknesses the Borg display afterwards (with Species 8472 sadly being discarded) are the main reason why people say that VOY ruined the Borg for them.

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4f8c6a No.28045

Nice essay. I agree.

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2158e0 No.28046

The dumbest decision was to say the Borg only reproduce through assimilation. That was retarded.

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170798 No.28050

>>28046

They would probably try an eugenics program to combine the best traits of all the species. I assume the reason they didn't is because they considered it a waste of resources, rewards being too low, etc.

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adaedf No.28057

File: 56cc145785e1719⋯.gif (999.42 KB,500x374,250:187,(!!!).gif)

>>28050

>The reason we overwhelmingly only see male Borg drones is because 99% of the women are breeding stock

jesus

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4b87b9 No.28058

>>28057

The Borg Queen is clearly man hungry and has little use for women. Whereas she can command all the males in the collective to fap to her at once.

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75980c No.28071

The bio dampener doesn't make them invisible, it makes them look retarded.

The borg see them there, they just ignore them like they ignore bacteria, insects, rats.

That's why the hansons eventually got assimilated, the borg saw a rat develop the intelligence of a human, then snap back to being the intelligence of a rat again. Even though the hansons "restored" the dampener, the fact that this happened made them interesting to the Borg. And they just assimilated them.

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790d0f No.28373

File: 0fcd15fe8a7f8ee⋯.jpeg (73.82 KB,500x710,50:71,axlotl.jpeg)

>>28050

>They would probably try an eugenics program to combine the best traits of all the species. I assume the reason they didn't is because they considered it a waste of resources, rewards being too low, etc.

Actually, I'd bet on the Borg preferring to keep their genetics diverse to prevent instakill biological warfare against them.

>>28057

I'm imagining something like an axlotl tank from Dune.

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ba7fab No.31584

>>28373

>biological warfare against them.

>what is borg nano machines son

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c398a2 No.31594

>>31584

>what is borg nano machines son

Dunno. What is species 8472, son?

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13066a No.31597

File: e3c275f5e4e95ba⋯.jpg (189.29 KB,1130x754,565:377,1.jpg)

>>28373

>Implying the Borg don't have the resources and the autism to have a facility where the best assimilated organics have their DNA bred pure, crossbred with every other viable match in the collective, and self replicated with random changes made to the DNA in the hopes of jump starting evolution.

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a35dd4 No.31641

File: eb29f500108a5ff⋯.png (79.12 KB,250x250,1:1,eb29f500108a5ff3f7a0ba9e1d….png)

>>28058

>command all the males to fap to her at once

<not just using the unimatrix to propagate your love of their fapping to them as the drones mindless increase the territory of your faploveminddroneunimatrixslaves

>I didn't know I needed this fetish in my life until this very point. Be in my unimatrix.

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