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ea546b No.37608

I decided to take a look of the rabbit hole that is the "RWBY critique community" and holy fuck these people.

Half of the time these niggas don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

>Monty's weightless and lifeless animations are good!

>But the new seasons have such garbage animation!

I'd say Monty's animations are less shit than the ones we have now, but it doesn't mean it has no flaws onto them. It's like that thing where women would have uglier/fatter women next to them to trick others into thinking that they are pretty.

Some of the shit they complain about feels like nitpicking at times- but that might be because they have such an unbearable tone in their voices and its hard to listen to what they are saying.

But one thing that stuck out is that these guys seem notorious even in community sites like Reddit, Youtube, Twitter etc. Is it just rabid fans who don't like criticism or are the critics genuinely are crazy, or both? I only glanced at a few comments.

Like this video here

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=yQhsvkEfg3w

I don't know anything about this guy. Hell, I don't even know anyone that's e-famous in the RWBY fanbase other than Mojojo and AlphaJaune (that guy who made the RWBY abridged series when S1 first aired), and I don't know anything personal about them either. Some of his points were fine (like the lesbo pandering of lgbtbbq) but I feel like he's bitching about it not for the sake of the show or critique, but because HE doesn't like it and he's throwing a tantrum about a ship he hates.

I didn't watch the whole thing because it's essentially a 40min video of a manchild whining about some anime cartoon but choice moments were:

>25:04 bitches about Rooster Teeth not improving or taking criticism well throughout the video, proceeds to cry like a bitch immediately after when someone calls him a faggot

>hell one of them gave some solid advice for him

>but he puts the comment in the 'toxic fandom showcase' because it wasn't worded kindly enough along with the others

>26:07 calls mojojo a literal fetish artist for "muh sexualizing underage cartoons"

>also accuses him of having a foot fetish because he drew some characters barefoot

Clearly I've only watched only a few and don't know much or engage in fanbases regularly- but the shit I've been given makes me wanna puke. Like I said, they seem notorious, does anyone know who these people are?

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bc2cef No.37609

RWBY was never a good dramatic plot.

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5cf899 No.37610

File: 4310dac74013f7e⋯.png (315.81 KB,485x641,485:641,When you stare into the as….png)

>>37608

M8 he was never really that coherent of a individual. Hell if I recall there was a mention by one YT commentor who was just trying to compliment him and all they got in return was him jumping the gun and biting their head off.

And it's usually for your best interest to stay away from most of, if not all of RWBY's community. Because it's like staring into the Abyss's Asshole and having it undulate back at you.

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32a5fa No.37611

>>37608

>Monty's weightless and lifeless animations are good!

They are. They have punching, kicking and shooting.

What do the new animations have?

Walk cycles and arm waving fluidity.

Another anon posted in s6 thread right off the bat how they couldn't make Nora hit the grim on the train sequence.

>But the new seasons have such garbage animation!

S6 features a scene of a drill animated in 2d with what other anons have described as frame drop levels of zucc.

Because rotating a mesh over it's own z axis totally is a time consuming and resource demanding animation.

>It's like that thing where women would have uglier/fatter women next to them to trick others into thinking that they are pretty.

Nobody ordered them to suck ass. They themselves turned their production into the landwhale of animation.

This is also the elephant in the room /3/ and the likes will never look at. You can buy all the Maya licenses and addons you want. You can hire all animation students with an Autodesk certificate you want. But if you deliver something so terrible as the current script for animation, it will suck anyways.

Don't blame the tool, blame the user.

>I feel like he's bitching about it not for the sake of the show or critique, but because HE doesn't like it and he's throwing a tantrum about a ship he hates.

There should have never been more relationships other than Jaune and Pyrrha. Everything else after that is just shit.

>Pyrrha and Jaune

>Pyrrha likes Jaune because he doesn't worship her or puts her on a pedestal.

>Jaune is the only person in her world that treats her like a normal person.

>Pyrrha looks through Jaune's flaws and she knows she may never do better.

>Pyrrha takes the chance.

>Actual bonding.

>Bumblebee

>You never see bonding between Blake and Yang after s2 dance episode.

>Episode was basically Yang telling Blake to chill or else she could screw herself up.

>In s3 Blake saves Yang but this isn't an indicator of love. In fact is an indicator of "no man is left behind", and given they are part of a paramilitary force, yeah this doesn't come as love.

>In s4 Yang isn't seen thinking on Blake at all. She's seen dealing with her trauma all the time.

>S5 sees them come together again but I have blocked out most of the volume, so I don't remember something coming as bonding or developing their relationship.

>S6 is just pleasing the shippers.

<You can bet that at the end of 7 they kiss in front to everyone and are applauded even by Jacques and Ironwood who look at each other and-

If the treatment they're going to give this pair is that, better omit it.

>A thread died for this.

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a10b6a No.37612

Nah, this show is just mediocre at best. The plot is bad, the pacing is all over the place, the show's subplots either show too much or too little (the faunus racism, Ruby's character, etc). The one good thing this show has going for it is that the character designs look top notch.

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a5a69a No.37613

>>37612

>faunus racism

It could have been absent with the White Fang just an army of mercenaries employed by Salem.

>Ruby's character

She's a designated protagonist.

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f9e058 No.37614

>>37611

>A thread died for this.

Doesn't matter. The threads that get bumped off the board right now are all so old they still ran on the old 8chan software (or whatever) and you can't access them any more anyway.

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32a5fa No.37615

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>>37614

I remember there is a way to get them back but only the board admin can do it.

At least extract the html code or the text and rebuild the thread with whatever useful thing he can find.

>Doesn't matter.

My point there was that I don't see the point criticizing the critiques. So they have an annoying voice, they call each other names, it's another day on the eternal debate, so what? They can do it. You can too.

>25:04 bitches about Rooster Teeth not improving or taking criticism well throughout the video, proceeds to cry like a bitch immediately after when someone calls him a faggot

How is calling someone a faggot criticism?

It's just calling him a faggot. From where in that sentence anyone is supposed to draw ways to improve or change?

>hell one of them gave some solid advice for him

>but he puts the comment in the 'toxic fandom showcase' because it wasn't worded kindly enough along with the others

r/rwby: "Only worship RWBY and their mighty creators Miles and Kerry! Three times a day before you go to sleep!"

r/rwby: "Monty is the messiah when we need it, any other time he's the false prophet that wasn't that good of a writer either!"

Threadly reminder that bumblebee got mixed with women's day and made Glynda die.

He's not wrong about just scrolling and finding shit out of place either. Pics related grabbed minutes ago from this day. No need for digging.

I'm not a fucking prune but if the sexual tension is killing them so bad why not rub one out and come back when they can think on something that isn't "how can I draw something suggestive between these guys?"

Just get it out of your system. Why everything has to be about placing characters in situations where you want them to bang, all the time?

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ea546b No.37617

File: 45eb814ba439fbb⋯.png (61.97 KB,743x404,743:404,animator's survival kit1.PNG)

File: b7d1b201f9860b8⋯.jpg (108.47 KB,600x850,12:17,DEEN finds a way.jpg)

>>37611

>They are. They have punching, kicking and shooting.

But it still lacks animation fundamentals that ruin those actions- any action/movement the characters make. I'll say that I don't know jack shit about fight choreography and I'm just getting used to knowing the fundamentals right now, but in art (and most likely other subjects) its absolutely necessary to demonstrate your fundamental steps before you can get into the details.

When people move, their bodies motion against gravity. Even when the body is still, there is still implications of gravity (feet being squashed slightly on the ground, muscles working with and against it). Almost all of animation will mimic the basic gravity that exists in our world. This is one of the fundamentals to know when animating characters.

The goal of animation in general is to make it believable. Pic related is a snippet from the beginning parts of Animator's Survival Kit that explains this well. In general , animations need believably in their world rather than realism. In order to do that, people study anatomy and how it moves and why it moves like that and apply it to their fictional characters. Looking at anime and cartoons, if there are characters jumping and flying up 10 ft up in the sky, there's still a sense of force occurring in their movements.

This is just one part of Monty's bad direction/animation btw, there's other problems in there like composition and bad color relationships with the objects/backgrounds in each scenes. He's not the worst animator in the world, but he isn't good.

So you can have all of the flashy, cool 5 sec. movements in your whole 8 min fight scene, but without that fundamental knowledge of motion then every single thing in that scene, and even your whole show/movie will fall apart.

In drawing terms, this will be like those pictures that follow coloring tutorials in attempts to make your drawings look pretty- but if you can't draw, its a bad picture no matter what you do. (Which was why many western artists drew bad deviantart anime back in the day, because they don't know that the animu drawings they saw were good because they had fundamentals in them, not because of "their style")

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32a5fa No.37618

File: f323daba0d85072⋯.png (142.51 KB,550x388,275:194,ironwood1.png)

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>>37617

>Read it all.

I stand by my opinion. What, as a consumer, have I got from these animators following da rulez?

Almost nothing.

Monty moves everything, little to no commentary, music in tone and it is a beating.

Current BC interrupts the fight (like in s6 Cinder vs Neo, RWBY vs Cordovin, Ruby vs Leviathan, s4 RNJR vs Fluffy, s6 Yang and Blake vs Adam, s5 RWBY vs Hazel (worst of them all).

All of them could be fights had they not paused them to deliver unnecessary, corny, edgy lines. Or long useless sentimental scenes with dramatic music pulled out of mexican stories.

Anon, I respect that you want to follow the book. But if the book means that I'm not getting jack, I'll prefer Monty's mediocrity, because within his mediocrity, I got entertained. I got fights that feel like fights. I am not here to go frame by frame to study their technique, then give them my opinion, I'm here to look at the product of their technique and then give them my opinion.

And now, samples from "Monty Oum and Monty Oum notes vs Current RWBY department, Autodesk and all the fresh graduates from whatever art schools are in Texas":

<The first:

>s2 episode 11, rwby gets into the train compartments. As soon as they drop, Blake hands Weiss ammo; "here, have it." Move.

>Next scene, Weiss finds doomguy; "you go on ahead". Doomguy: "I never thought I'd have the privilege to kill a Schnee." Fight.

>Next scene, Yang finds Neo, "you go on ahead". Fight.

>Next scene, Blake finds Roman, straight to the fight. Not a single word until it's almost over.

>s3 episode 11, docks, Ironwood is supervising evacuation. A fucking Alpha makes its way through.

>Ironwood and Alpha lock on each other. You can feel the heat, like when two lions are about to fight.

>Ironwood rushes, grabs Alpha right arm, twists it, pulls a revolver and shoots it on the head.

>Walks away not looking back

>Anon: Dude, this guy is so badass

<The latter:

>s5 last episode, Hazel is half done, Weiss or Ruby (can't remember) "looks like you're finished"

>Anon: Shit, she left her guard down, next camera change she's getting plastered into the wall, look out!

>Hazel, standing still shouts like a potato: "NOOOOOO!"

>Anon: Fuck you. Fuck both of you.

>s6 episode 13, ruby rides a wasp "you can do this, you have to do this"

>Anon: Shit, what's she doing, why she's going in front of it.

>Anon pause: Maybe it's going to use herself as bait and when they get godzilla far from the city everyone will join the action, even the old lady.

>Silver eyes

>don't work

>Anon: Neat, maybe it is just so the fighting gets more intense

>Ruby "jin!"

>They're pausing shit again

>Smug dialog

>Silver eyes

>work, sappy music

>Anon: GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

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