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2d2ba8 No.15092

I had this crazy thought: Atlas has a big military and a big military R&D industry. Naturally, the two come hand in hand as technological advancement has proven to be one of the deciding factors in many conflicts here on Earth. It would only make sense that even as a Grim Dragon sits atop Vale, Atlesian engineers would be busy with discovering and perfecting new methods of controlled destruction.

Also, general weapon systems in Remnant discussion is welcome.

"But why develop new ways to fight Grim when current weapon systems seem efficient enough?"

There is always room for improvement, but the real kick would be this:

>Grim are dangerous, but entirely predictable as they will always aim to destroy humans and their creations.

>Grim are more of a force of nature to be restrained like floods or fires.

>Humans and especially rogue Aura users are more dangerous as they plan ahead, employ strategy, organize and are able to infiltrate (all of which Torchwick & co. did)

>Therefore a reliable way of neutralizing human, Aura protected targets is required

Now I think that this could be something like a "Black Dust" tipped cartridge. No matter how edgy and OC-ish it sounds, BD would be a dust-like substance capable of penetrating and/or bypassing Aura entirely, allowing for a single projectile to cause lethal damage even to a hunter with strong and full Aura.

For this purpose, any weapon that could achieve similar results is applicable as well. It makes no matter because this is where everyone's favourite cinnamon bun comes in:

Atlas would need a testing platform to develop such weapon, but testing it on Aura wielding individuals is not a good way to go about it for obvious reasons. Therefore, a machine that can project Aura is needed. Enter the first working prototype, Penny.

>Her job will be to save the world one day

Sound crazy enough? It gets worse!

There is no guarantee Penny is the only one. Hell, she may be a byproduct of the research, to test if a killing machine would be able to infiltrate, say, a school, unnoticed. What if next time the target area is a whitefang camp, or a dissent meetup? To Quote Cinder, "Why would anyone have a need for soldiers disguised as little girls?"

Now, the implications of such a weapon are huge. This is an assassin's weapon, to use on other humans, that, unlike Grim, may or may not be enemies. It may fall into the wrong hands. Pyrha fell to one arrow, but she took a lot of hits before her Aura was depleted to allow it to penetrate. This weapon would kill on first hit.

Anyway, that's my insomnia fueled tinfoilhattery. What's yours?

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2d2ba8 No.15307

>>15092

We know Semblances are shaped by personality and experience. It may also be possible that a person defined by a domineering, determined personality, could develop a Semblance which made their Aura the equipment of an armor-piercing round: every strike could bypass Aura.

The perfect tool for an Atlesian Specialist, that's for sure.

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2d2ba8 No.15474

>>15307

I like the way you think. Atlas would certainly have use for such individuals.

But, let us not forget other Kingdom's powers, and this kind of person would be fit for a mercenary, one such that might be employed by rich Mistral traders, or some rogue warlord on the outskirts of Vacuo.

There is definitely more to be revealed of each kingdom's militaries as the crisis will develop. The new season can't come too soon.

On the topic of Atlesian Specialists, not much is known, really. Their numbers, uniforms or modus operandi. And Winter is a single datapoint that's hard to extrapolate from.

And to add a little bit more oil onto the tinfoil hat:

We've yet to see anything about any of the kingdom's secret services. They either hide their presence well or are nonexistant. Either way the job they should be doing is not being done well or at all, a major terrorist group gathering in city cargo docks with stolen military hardware, a rogue agent and assassin infiltrating a school, let alone the city without being spoted or reported on by double agents in White Fang's ranks…

…or, Vale assault was an inside job. A sign of a cold war being waged. Who would benefit from this? Maybe Mistral. Vacuo seems to be laid back, but Mistral needs to gain more ground if it wants to dominate the Remnant. Atlas is too powerful to take on directly, unless something happens to a large part of their fleet and their forces would be tied up solving an immediate crisis involving Grim infested Vale. Vale is crippled with the Beacon in flames. Vacuo won't enter a hot war outside of their territory as they are said to benefit and therefore to an extent rely on "homefield advantage" granted by their arid environment.

So get this:

>After great war, 4 kingdoms make peace to concentrate on not dying under hordes of Grim

>Mistral need not relinguish the will to dominate

>Mistral staerts a plot to overthrow the remaining kingdoms

>Mistral starts supporting the White Fang to cause havoc in Vale and sabotage Dust production of Atlas

>Vacuo is unaffected since nobody there gives a damn about cat ears or a tail, so Whitefang has no just cause to violently operate there

This may also mean that Vacuo is in on the plot, at least for the time being

>Enter Cinder, a rogue operative with no overt goal and mysterious origin and loayalities

>Cinder is a covert operative sent to bring Vale and Atlas to their knees

"But where does Salem fit into all this?"

I admit that's a big hole in the picture. Chances are she is being used as well, or is using Mistral herself, to create more negative vibes her Grim may dine on, letting them think they are using her pawn Cinder.

>Mistral would gain the upper hand by weakening the two kingdoms

>Mistral now needs a just cause to start an open war

This remains to be resolved, though a crafty warmonger could use Pyrrha's death. A champion fighter from Mistral and reasonably loved by the people dies during a crisis Atlas failed to prevent despite allocating large ammount of resources. Mistral could press demands for Ironwood to step down and to replace the Atlesian fleet in Vale. This would lead to a de facto occupation like we know it from the eastern block after WW2, where USSR was "liberating" various countries.

This still doesn't open the war, but it is a good primer, as Mistral would have control over Vale and Atlas would be weakened by subsequent reorganisation as android-based military concept is questioned after the incident in Vale.

>Powderkeg would be set, waiting for the spark

Red dust can't melt airship support struts!

Something seems off about this, though maybe I'm reading way too much into this and it's just not there to begin with.

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2d2ba8 No.15488

>>15474

Consider this:

"Giant Nevermore" was a Mistral card in that game Team RWBY was playing. Them being antagonist could very well be a possibility.

It would also be quite funny to see the "Atlas is military so they must be bad guys" faggots get totally BTFO when it turns out Ozpin is actually a little shit, Mistral are the villains, Vacuo is a bunch of faggots, and Atlas was the good guys the whole time.

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2d2ba8 No.15500

>>15488

What a twist that would be.

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2d2ba8 No.15710

is there any way we can calculate the amount of force an average aura can absorb? obviously it caries but if me makes some assumptions about the velocity and mass of these blows and adding them up.

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2d2ba8 No.15712

pardon a minor derail, but i've been sort of thinking about thsi for a while

so we know that aura can protect the user from physical damage, right? but what about non-lethal damage?

not things like rubber bullets or beanbags, but pepper balls and stun guns. would someone's aura know the difference between physical damage and nerve damage?

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2d2ba8 No.15766

>>15712

I've thought about this too. On one hand, we see no reason to assume that.

On the other, aura is abstract enough that it can protect you by warning you that you're being watched. It's way, way more than a literal kinetic force field. So who knows?

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2d2ba8 No.16943

>>15712

Nerve damage is physical, nerves are still cells. However, no ammount of aura can protect you against psy-ops shenanigans, since the psyche itself is what the aura is based on, it would have no way of discerning damage to it. But Grim can't mount psy-ops and there hasn't been a war for a long time between humans. Or was there?

Irritants can enter an aura user's body and interact with it as seen in SE1 when Ruby inhales red Dust powder, so pepper sprays are a go.

Imagine guys, Dust enhanced pepper sprays!

Stun guns project electrical shock to overload target's nerve system. A combatant has been seen using a stun baton in the show, so it must be somewhat efficient. His only mistake was using it against the only person that can channel electricity trough her body, the pink bomber Nora.

From what we've seen aura can heal minor injuries completely, stabilise a user after heavy injuries (Yang's dismemberment), prevent physical damage to user to an extent, both cuts and blunt force trauma as well as burns.

But I wonder, how would it help against poison? It doesn't mitigate alcohol effects seeing as Crow is able to maintain perpetual innebration. Maybe aura can't prevent chemical damage, but it may be able to repair it once it occurs, making poisons inefficient at large. Especially if aura can monitor and alter user's physiology. What do you think?

Even more unexplored is the option of someone drowning. How can aura maintain gas exchange when the user is submerged in water? Maybe Neptune is painfuly aware of that.

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