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 No.14875

Are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoestrogen#Common_environmental_estrogens quietly crippling generation after generation of humans, for the past ~100 years, after organic chemistry at scale became a thing ?

At least to me it looks remarkable that these conditions appear together in this moment of history:

1) Millions of tons of xenoestrogens (BPA type) are produced yearly since at least 1980s. These substances are used, for example, as additives to various food-grade plastics and as a coating for store receipts.

2) Quantitative phenotypical correlates of masculinity - grip strength, anogenital distance - are known to decline in men after exposure to these substances: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=anogenital+distance+exposure . A more controversial personal observation: many males nowadays look weak & feminized, and quantitative phenotypical correlates of femininity decline in females (recently we see taller females with larger jaws) Also there is a quite well established observation that female age at menarche is falling.

3) LGBT rate is rising.

A hypothesis:

There is a causal relationship between 1 and 2,3 which works as follows: massive amounts of xenoestrogens in wastewater get into the potable water (and into bottled water via leaching from the plastic), pregnant females drink this water, and the substance disrupts fetal development in various ways. It is known, for example, that some of xenoestrogens are also partial androgen receptor 1 agonists. These activities - estrogenic and androgenic, are enough to disrupt both male and female fetuses, possibly producing population-scale outcome we are witnessing now.

I think there is no fun to be had if this is true. If carefully selected sex dimorphism of a species is reduced/ruined, both sexes become less attracted to each other, and this lowers their QoL and fertility.

If this is true, why is there so little public attention devoted to this problem ?

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 No.14882

>>14875

>LGBT rate is rising.

Is it?

In the west the shift in social attitude must make it hard to find a real effect. Are there any clever cross-region analyses that point at the rate being influenced by something else?

Hijra are presumably cognate with trans women, and they're a little more traditional. Do you know how their rate measures up?

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 No.14883

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Such hypotheses are more likely than they seem to be, given the places where they tend to appear (image boards and Alex Jones' content). Scott briefly referred to this issue from the perspective of public image: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/02/04/respectability-cascades/

We know that male fertility and testosterone levels rapidly declined in recent decades:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-mystery-of-declining-testosterone_b_59fcc5fbe4b0d467d4c224b3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_infertility_crisis

The mainstream narrative, vilifying men and putting constant demands on them, acts like a chronic stressor. Women are choosier than ever, and their revealed preferences keep on favoring precisely what's referred to as "toxic masculinity". This results in even more intrasexual competition and the creation of a male caste system: alpha lovers, beta providers, omega incels. It can't be stopped.

Xenoestrogens are an obvious problem for public health. I'm not sure if they could also result in the major increase of LGBT people in the general population, but there's a huge space for interaction between the endocrine disruptors and cultural shifts (homosexuality is partially heritable, but environmental factors play a major rule). If you're feminized due to exposure to xenoestrogens since the prenatal period, if you're constantly shamed for male heterosexuality in all the subtle ways, and if your chances for a satisfying relationship with a women are minimal, then the likelihood of becoming gay increases. There's nothing edgy about this line of thinking, it doesn't involve any kind of prejudice against the LGBT community, and it doesn't challenge the scientific consensus on how the sexual orientation/preferences are being determined.

Yes, we're doomed. No, there's not enough attention, because conventional masculinity became a taboo, and our culture optimizes for the instant female gratification - even if it means a social disaster in the long run. Time to sit down and watch the very gradual collapse.

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 No.14887

>>14875

>If carefully selected sex dimorphism of a species is reduced/ruined, both sexes become less attracted to each other, and this lowers their QoL and fertility.

Lack of attraction between the sexes lowers fertility, but does it lower QoL? Consider a hypothetical world where human males are only attracted to other males and females only to other females, and they weren't dying out because they have the social and physical technology for replacement fertility. Would it be a less happy world? Maybe we are just living in a uniquely unhappy transition period between legacy heterosexually and successor sexualities.

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