/pnd/ - Politics, News, Debate

>speaking for /pol/

nurk two years, ligger

>>95664

Learn to spell first.

Anon dont listen to the dipshits, you are right that the most important thing we can do right now is convert people, but the pic you posted is very much 2edgy tier, and that kind of shit with SS dunes and skull masks sends normalfags running for the door. We need to focus on more positive, less degenerate type propaganda with an emphasis on health and fitness so people will actually more amenable to it.

I agree, we need to bring back our place into Entertainment, mass Entertainment is pretty much our weakness, and why the "rightwing" is so badly treated, as the right pretty much retreated itself out of Gayliewood, in the what was it 60's?

>>95811

We need to go beyond Memes, we need to bassically build up a studio and get a couple games under our belts.

Maybe something akin to what Paradox does, but just do it beter and not allow the leftie diversity infection to infect the studio.

Build up a story of a beter perspective that yes, maybe leads to white girls in wheat fields as eventuality.

I have seen since the last few years lurking on /pol/ since the GG days, how creative we can be, the time is coming we need to find our way back to entertainment, ranging from comics, games, movies, series. all those things.

>>95818 Not at all a joke.

Entertainment as a industry has been the left there greatest tool to change the minds over the last 75 years.

We are absolutely dumb and idiotic for ignoring it and for listening to idiots such as yourself.

>>95822

You sound like either a leftist who agrees with the absolute Monopoly.

Or hmmm glowing maybe?

>>95823

It's just a nigger watching America 2.0 circle the drain.

>>95824

Least i have been already learning the past few years 3D modelling, Texturing, and when i finnaly get to it animation and what not.

>>95828

>>95834

>>95822

>Impotent leftist being impoten

Watch as we kill antifags and glowniggers en masse.

You lost.

We are already winning. And everything that you "control" will be destroyed, or brought under our control.

Your fear is showing in your every post.

You have no power.

You never had.

And you will never have.

>>95811

That's why these anons are correct:

>>95816

>>95807

Right wingers need to get more into music, games, etc. stuff that can be produced by small teams and released via internet and social media. Not feasible to get some kind of streaming show going or anything like that, but indie games and music can be quite influential.

The simple fact is pop culture is a huge part of influencing every other element of culture and society, and while movies and TV might be out of our reach music and games are not.

Right now we're looking at anywhere from 30-80% of Americans losing their jobs by the times we're through with this plague business, it would be a perfect opportunity to reach people and sway them to our side, it literally is the most important goal we can realistically achieve, just get our message and well made propaganda out there to convert people at a time when more people will be amenable to it than ever before in our lifetimes. It just can't be nazi-larp tier shit, it has to appeal to a broader base.

>>95834

Can't wait until anon baits you faggots into an ambush.

>>95615

Hard pass for now. A lot of people are on edge and skeptical of joining anything with all the arrests going around as of late. The Base was a prime example of that.

If such movement exists there needs to be a huge upgrade in the quality assurance department. Looking backwards it was mostly young kids being ran by young kids larping if not completely unselfaware guys.

All in all the message has to be more in depth than just kill niggers and America for whites which has been the lowest common denominator amongst the majority of past activism publicly or privately.

I've been thinking about coming out of retirement lately myself but the risks just out weigh the rewards, especially with a wife and 2 kids. If I do I'd probably lose my job, get targeted by the FBI/ADL, and probably go homeless just for some memes people will look at in 10 years.

TL;DR let gen Z mature first but step up the online game

>>95988

This guy is correct and his digits confirm that he speaks the truth.

>>95798

Agreed we need to show the positive aspects of NatSoc. Like close families, small supportive communities, honor, loyalty. Things like that.

We need to get people to make more art and other forms of entertainment on a small individual scale. Small 8-bit games like Angry Goy. Indie music like Paddy Tarleton. You don’t have to be making super big smash hit kinda stuff. As long as it has some quality to it and it gets just a little bit of traction that’s already huge.

The globo homo fags have been in charge of the media for decades. They’ve been able to control what where and how people get information for a long time. We have to be able to create alternatives that will make people see different ideas.

>>95615

<Spoken liek the true federal agent

If we need to "go" "do" so go on and do/thread

>>95769

>90's-era fedposts from Ol' Tomato Joe.

No.

Op, you're 100% right. Fascism is a constructive system, and all you want to do is kill and torture and burn shit, you aren't a real fascist.

Want to increase your chances of ethnocultural preservation? Dispense with the natsoc fetishism.

>>96149

This. Real NatSoc is a manifestation of the national and ethnic type. American fascism will never include German symbols. You cant spark a renaissnce by obsessing over a new form of war guilt for winning WW2. Instead celebrate american strength and industry. American national socialism looks like red white and blue and giant eagles. It looks like college reform, free trade school, 0% home loans for new families, and an immigration moratorium. Huge statues of the founders in togas and the like. It involves no skull masks and no larping.

Same can be said of any national movement. Poland is going to have a lot of red and white flags. Russia would whitewash their communist revolution in mythic national tones.

Quit wasting your time with socialism dumb tard.

you are all getting datamined

>>95615

>We need to step up our game in terms of red pilling people and spreading the ideas of national socialism and fascism

Yea, like actually showing how it works instead of yelling "NIGGER" and "MUH JEWS" all day long?

https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1078&context=historyfacpub

during the lockdown i have been mostly reading NS history books and academic papers. that link is to the paper "Weimar and the Rise of National Socialism: Kampfbund."

the Kampfbund was an org promoting traditional German arts, music, lit and architecture, as well as warning about the destructive influence of jews and "Americanized negros" on German culture. sound familiar?

tge paper shows many parallels between 1929 Germany and America today. it is shocking. we truly are Weimar all over again. even the way we now talk about restoring tradition and loyalty and wholesomeness is verbatim to was NS said in 1929.

the Kampfbund was an interesting org. they explicitly avoided being openly NS, did not refer to Hitler at all, and only focused on promoting healthy Aryan art and culture. this was for the exact same reasons given by opticfags today. 1929 Germans were still too timid to embrace anything openly NS, but a safe org that was non-political was more approachable. just like how white girls in wheat fields is approachable today.

Goebbels secretly ran Kampfbund and used it as a feeder to recruit for NS. it worked. Kampfbund grew in membership and cities and influence. Goebbels ran dozens or hundreds of these kinds of non-political and not openly NS clubs around many topics in the arts and culture to slowly persuade Normies and make them comfortable with NS ideas.

we NS forget just how alien our views are to Normies. we scare them, because they dont understand us, and all they do know about NS is what the Media Jew has told them.

the paper goes on to describe how after the 1933 NS victory, virtually all the artists and musicians joined Kampfbund lol. their membership went from 9,000 to 70,000 in 1933. because all artists knew if they werent members, they would be black balled from working in the arts at all by Goebbels. and yes, suddenly all the jew artists creating filth and degeneracy suddenly were unemployed starving artists. ;-)

the Kampfbund approach will work again. it is folly to expect AWD memes to ever become popular. we cant go from 0 to 60mph without starting slow. we need to start like today is 1929, with clubs and culture groups that are non-political and not openly NS and only in support of traditional lifestyles. then we slowly persuade the members and get them used to ideas like the JQ.

good luck and i will help as best as i can.

HH

>>95769

Jeez is this real? How has the right changed so little in decades? What the fuck? Is there any hope of victory at all?

>>96274

>>96442

Right on the money.

>>96804

This is the exact kind of thing that is needed. Small local groups/clubs/organizations that can slowly introduce these ideas to the general population without being super obvious. These should teach people traditional values, self-reliance and an appreciation for traditional art.

>>96663

Yes. This seems to be a point that is lost on most people. It seems that people think if they yell enough about niggers and jews it will somehow magically make normies sympathize with these ideas.

>>96274

The manifestation of NatSoc will look different for every country/ethnic group because it is a very personal thing. It is meant to be a representation of the groups soul/psyche. However, the core values of strong family, strong culture and a connection to the divine tend to be universal traits.

>>96888

Which is why very few in america tend to be supportive of most of the Nat Soc movements here, very few of them seem to accurately reflect the nature of our people. There is far too much socialism or more specifically social welfare programs involved for many people. The ideal american Nat Soc would be a very eugenics focused, let the weak die, and strong thrive movement, not saving the bitchy liberals from themselves.

>>96888

Check those Hitler trips for good point. Each nation/ethinicity will have a slightly different stylistic, ethnic and bio-cultural aesthetic that emphasizes their own history, but the core values need to be the same

>>96894

In Europe is more possible to have a more "socialist" style nation because their demographics aren't so fucked and everyone there is on some level a big extended family, and most Europeans won't be amenable or conducive to a non or anti-socialist movement in their country since it has become the standard and norm over there where it can be still be somewhat realistically implemented. As long as it doesn't descend into abject marxism it's actually ok for people of similar community to quickly step in and give short term support to someone who just got hid by a bad twist of fate, IE bad car wreck or some shit like that. In the USA are demographics are totally fucked by niggers and goblinas and our version will have to have a much more lolbertarian (emphasizing positive elements of frontier/pioneering spirit and self reliance in our propaganda) bent whether you like it or not because otherwise the untermensch will suck up all the resources like what's happening now.

>>96909

Even if our demographics weren't fucked socialism would have to be kept to a minimum, socialism is literally opposed in every way to what we banded together as a greater nation over, i'm not talking the DMV's which could easily be privatized or the Department Of Agriculture or even the Departments of Transportation those are fine and border on necessary, I'm talking medicare at all, medicaid, Disability everything the SSA, D's Of Health Human Services or Departments Of Labor of every state do, to reflect our ethnic spirit that shit would have to be done away with or any possibility for abuse absolutely removed and severely punished if any still remains, in large part because at the same time as being very self reliant we are also extraordinarily generous because of how our nation began and behaved for more than a century, we had to depend on the generosity of our communities and the kinship we had with our neighbors because no government was going to help and we didn't want them to and then the corruption of jews came along and abused that generosity which we no longer turn just inward which we do less of but very very very largely outward which is beyond bad for the nation and I'm not just referring to the foreign aid our government hand out like candy I am talking charities out the ass. That wonderful yet harsh, independent spirit is still there we just need to capitalize on it and truly reflect Americans and not the false Americans among us.

>>96888

>>96909

I want to add to this that we should encourage cultivation of National Socialism sentiments to even shitskins. One could argue that this would benefit them and that them being our natural adversaries would be to our detriment, but they would become somewhat more self-sufficient, easier to segregate and would ultimately lessen their (((gibs-driven))) aggression. They only "better" alternative for us would if we went full kike pragmatic and downright exploited and enslaved them, but that would go directly against Indo-Europeans' natural spirit of empathy, honor and respect for life.

>>96938

This is where the reality of the necessity of some libertarian themes comes from. The only way for it to be "inclusive" enough to work on a broad base in the USA is going to be for a principled sort of movement like discussed above, but in the USA pushed with a more "self-reliance and self sufficiency" narrative, which also ties into the physical health and athletics department. Throw in some much needed agriculture and livestock reforms and as long as you have just that minor promise of situational social safety net you might get a good chunk of lefties on your side too and it could actually really work and take off.

>>96938

I agree. Shitskins should also be encouraged to adopt NatSoc values. It would be better for everyone. For example if blacks in America are able to develop those values they would be able to create strong families which would cut down on gang crime and welfare checks sent to single moms. Also they would be more likely to self segregate.

>>96955

> you might get a good chunk of lefties

To be frank I'd rather multiple literal chunks of leftists as fertilizer and animal food for said agricultural activities. I can understand tolerance towards lower humanoid lifeforms, like niggers doing simply what their instincts dictate and even kikes given they to an extent serving their ingroup interests (as long as they are strongly prevented from parasitizing other populations), since Natsoc principles should be respectful towards nature, but race traitors are an abomination and a mockery against the very primary drive of life and the only thing worth remaining of them or their deeds are cautionary tales.

>>96981

Settle down now, anon. I know that it is easy to get angry at these people, but you have to realize very few "leftists" are Antifa-tier or similar. Most of them are basically good people who have simply been brainwashed, and had they been brought up in a different culture and environment (that we are trying to create) they would have turned out much more in the mold of /ourguys/, but since they were brought up in this twisted society they were corrupted to left wing sedition being taught from the cradle it was a good thing. If anything we are going to have to find it in our hearts to forgive (some) of them because many of those leftists are potential converts who can still be shown the path of light. Any belief system or ideology that allows for some form of forgiveness or redemption will always be stronger than one that doesn't. You have to give people the opportunity to repent and join the fold, otherwise your puritanism will drive away a lot of people away who otherwise could have been converts or allies. Trust me, I understand where you are coming from but we need something that is going to be more practical and realistically implementable, not something that will make enemies of half the population by default with no chance for them to repent or join the new movement they might actually like some parts of. Even if they don't convert or join it's a hell of a lot better to have them "neutral" towards you than "against" you politically. Sorry but we have to be brutally realistic here, not make politics about revenge fantasies.

>>96927

oh i'm glad it there too, I'm on medicaid and thanks to the pandemic have no job, was just looking for a trade job as this shit hits just left college after realizing it wasn't for me, not that i couldn't do it, I just got tired of hearing indoctrination out of the mouths of my teachers and came to realize putting myself into debt for nothing but a piece of paper to prove I know shit that I could teach myself, nah, now I'm stuck at home just fucking waiting for this to be over so I can figure what to do now.

do you all really think you're intelligent?

just because you discuss some ideas and form a propaganda and rally your little troops doesn't mean you'll get stomped out by the media, your own president and your world leaders. you're all a bunch of idiots hiding behind a computer (or not, who cares really) and spewing your stupid ideas like it'll make a difference.

you're just repeating history and you'll never be anything more than idealists with terrible propagandas

dm me when you wanna be serious about starting an actual revolution. you know my IP address and possibly my real address

>>95615

Don't create organizations that can be infiltrated. Just have groups of friends that share the same ideas.

>>97286

No, while i agree a simple no is powerful that simple no is only powerful if you have a million voices singing it together unified, and in my opinion its very telling that the people who accuse us all of being (((glowies))) want us not to do the one thing that might actually be able to turn this around without violence, organization, to be clear I wholeheartedly believe non-violence is not possible but it is not possible to even make an attempt at it without organization nor is it possible for us to rise up as factions after the collapse to take power and eventually unify into a greater whole if there is no organization with which to do so, it will result in a fracturing on ideological lines and inter-faction warfare that will only give our enemies their long term victory, our deaths, even as they lose their grip on power in the short term, so who's the fucking glowie here? Is it me a random anon sitting at home next to his fiancee or you? or the two guys above you >>97253

>>97273

? who?

Every fucking time the rats come out of the woodwork to say OH NO ORGANIZING IS BAD, when no revolution of any sort has ever been successful just waiting for a collapse to THEN organize, and in those few time when such a thing has happened it took hundred of years for any stability to come about and numerous faction fought and killed for power in the meantime. No, they do it one of a few ways and all require organization and the risk of death, prison, vilification and worse. The first way is to organize and then plan a violent revolution, while being pursued by the current authority structure. The second is to infiltrate the power structure, and simultaneously use public outreach to turn public sentiment their way and then violently revolt if the demands of the populace are not met, and the third that I can think of is to simply be an organization that exists and builds public sentiment while having large public outreach for recruitment and appearance sake while waiting for an opportunity to either take power forcefully, take it with the help of the people, or wait for the inevitable mistakes of our enemy to come together and crash the current authority down around your ears so that you can mobilize across an entire nation and reunify as quickly as possible so the your nations enemies do not take advantage of what would appear to be weakness.

We can only lead by example if people actually have a reason to look up to us, to follow us rather than the kike media the only way to do that and not have only 10-15 people we personally know that agree with us, is to organize will we have to be better than Hitler, Goebbels, Rockwell, Pierce, and every other leader we have had over the years YES, we do, but every fucking time we have people saying NO lets not do this, we'll go to jail SO DID HITLER. No, we'll die! SO DID MANY OF OUR PREDECESSORS. I am willing to go to jail to die to sacrifice everything I have and will ever have for our people, why aren't you?

>>97295

I don't like to throw around the word glownigger but this is exactly what Feds and Antifaggots want.

We need to face the reality of our situation, our numbers are far too small to throw any sort of wrench in the machine right now. Our first priority should be fixing our people and their culture before we move on because as it stands our enemies are willing to go to extreme lengths to cut down any organizational activity we might try. I don't know how many millions they're throwing at us but it's certainly working and their reach is very long. Just recently the "Commander" of an organization was taken into police custody, he was a 13 year old Estonian. The organization had been infiltrated by multiple people and information was leaked to the feds who silently swooped in and imprisoned them on swamped up charges of conspiracy. Stop taking this approach in trying to play insurgent, go live your life like a white man should, you can only lead by example and that means raising a healthy and beautiful family and making friends with people of the same mindset.

this is the end. time for something new. do something future generations will envy. live in the last few moments. “dance like no one is watching”

make your last gasp one of true desperation.

my last choice is to die with my loved ones watching me convulse. my first choice? lol! i think you know. either way, I’m going out beyhowulf stitle you? you’ll die alone. not embarrased. no one will care. act an ass. do something that matters. your life did not. kys in style. be memborable.

live like your life depends on it.

i love you faggots. (nill homo)

ps- did some art. set out with the best intentions. wanted to follow the assignment. couldn’t. i have plenty of reasons why but I’m an autistic fuck and I’m also 3 whiskeys into a 6 year sobriety. dont expect a wordy reply as to why. don’t expect feelings or answers. I’m’ making plans. you should be to. final push, now or never.

be honest. be brutal. give me direction.

90% chance i can do what you want.

this is a start.

all ideas acknowledged, appreciated, and 1000% entertained (even cliche shit like “kys”… you know i’m listening. convince me.)

>>97295

Well said brother. I agree. It seems that anytime I try making a post about how it is important to get people organized it get called a shill. This makes me believe even more that the idea of a strong right wing movement scares the shit out of the kikes.

1488 my friend.

>>97297

Exactly our numbers are too small right now. That’s why we need to organize people so we can get more on our side. When I say organize I don’t mean getting together a terrorist cell. I mean getting small club or something like that going where you can teach people in your local community useful skills and instill the values we have been talking about, such as a strong family and a connection to heritage and culture

>>97327

it's funny but i'm pretty sure the best idea I've seen here is what Hitler and Goebbels did as has been suggested here several times, we just need the money to start gentleman's clubs with a ladies auxiliary as well through which we can discuss things change minds recruit and filter out feds and kikes, etc. etc. I'm not sure anybody that started a movement here in the US did so but I haven't looked into the minutiae of operation so if it was fucked it'd be of benefit to know how.

>>96442

>I know that shit is cool and fun but just won't fly in the real world

Yeah because an openly fascist wrapping of fascist ideas, by using fascist art propaganda codes, will surely work on normalfags who by definition range from ultra-left to soft right and who all have one thing in common, their hatred for fascism, even when they start to move closer to Alex Jones-tier breadpills.

The only way for this to work is to add the joke element so that those who are against the propaganda feel ashamed and socially humiliated, which is even more efficient against the feminine mindset that is so prevalent today.

Examples:

A- (unrelated to the movie) the three-pic /fit/ meme of Capitalism (obese), Communism (famine) and Fascism (Overman). How the hell could they even deny that?

B- the "it is afraid" meme with N.P. Harris' Jenkins character checking onto the Brainbug (((Nose))).

My main disappointment about the hijacking of this movie is how nobody has produced sequences of shooting at waves of Klendathu bugs with migrants., especially when Rasczak spins on his heels to realize that hordes of bugs are coming.

>>97331

Dick inspection obligatory.

Foreskin required. I don't give a fuck about burgers who had theirs removed because Docstein said it was cleaner. We take no risks.

fed chan…

>>97411

Really? seems like a pretty fucking stupid idea considering most americans had no choice and it was done by a kiked doctor and uninformed parents, also seems just like you want to be a giant faggot and look at a lot of dicks, especially considering there are a myriad of other ways in which to catch actual jews, there is no need to go there.

>>97416

Go to your magical non-fed chan or tell us where it is you annoying fuck, otherwise shut up and accept that violence is the only way this is solved, period, there is not one single other way not for Europe not for america not for any group of white people anywhere on this planet.

>>97409

>The only way for this to work is to add the joke element so that those who are against the propaganda feel ashamed and socially humiliated, which is even more efficient against the feminine mindset that is so prevalent today.

>My main disappointment about the hijacking of this movie is how nobody has produced sequences of shooting at waves of Klendathu bugs with migrants

No anon that's what we need to get away from. Things need to be taken seriously, not ironically or comically. You are correct though that we need to make those who are against it feel ashamed, ridiculed, or socially humiliated though. That's why it needs to be something more serious, so that you have physically fit, attractive or otherwise clean cut people with a positive message so that anyone who is against such things can be easily mocked or criticized as a lazy, gross fatty who is against self-improvement and the like. The comedy or joke element should be reserved as a tool or weapon against those who would criticize such a movement or such principles. Also likewise it won't be "fascist" if you don't make it so, it needs to be wrapped up in athletics, aesthetics, civil responsibility and duty, etc. so that there is enough going on to distance it from what most normalfags would consider "fascist."

>>97331

This is where it needs to start. Just boy's clubs to hang out and talk, work out, set up IRL connection networks that aren't even necessarily political, but just a good way to help each other out and also draw more members. It shouldn't be some goofy thing with a name, symbol or uniform per se, just the creation of parallel social structures for disaffected people to be attracted to. The next couple years will be a great time for such things as the economic annihilation brought on by the plague is going to fuck over tons of people, and if you can get networks organized to help people out with various things it will be much easier to draw in good people with a positive message and get things off the ground without ever even ranting about politics or waving around any flags.

>>97487

Violence is simply not a good solution because right now everyone is inundated against any kind of ethnic nationalism of any kind, violence would only get any movement branded outlaws and get cracked down upon. It needs to be much more low key, have public support, and have some people in semi-influential positions in order to survive. Not to say there won't be violence or confrontations, IE the Beer Hall Putsch, but to just unilaterally declare violence is the only solution is foolish, go ask any of the dipshit (((accelerationist))) shooters from last year who are all dead or locked up and made so little impact no normalfags even remember their names.

>>97564

You misunderstand me violence or physical resistance is the only solution to our problem, in the short term organization is the strategy whereas that entire organization must be geared from the beginning to destroy the current system as there is no political solution whatsoever to this problem, none not one not even if we should become millions strong, violence is the only answer, and if you want to be truthful you must admit that logically exterminating or reducing the populations of all the Others on this planet by an extreme amount is absolutely necessary for long term if not permanent peace, this must be clear to those who join from the start, there can be no dissent against this tenet, and any dissent on it is to be punished immediately by execution, no exceptions.

>>97572

>murdercultism

https://culteducation.com/

>>96913

people like you need to be kept out of this movement at all costs. you don't have anything more to offer except that which has been killing us.

>>97623

>>97624

Fine let the jews and shitskins that have raped us for far too many generations live and when a few generations from now our children falter, as they always will, we will be in the same situation all over again. More death will occur and we will be driven to the brink of extinction extinction once again. Nevermind, the iron clad fact, that they would not hesitate to do the same to us, you pussy out making arguments no different than the leftists we are dealing with now just with a few small changes here and there, "NO big daddy government won't let us!" I am not advocating for letting the inferior to ALLOW us to do anything. You'll make this same mistake, because you like our forebears think we MUST be better, we must lead by example and the inferior will follow, evidence today indicates they were wrong and because you are deadset on this course, we will die out maybe not to the jew, or the nigger, but to one of them because our strength will fade they will forget the horror of fighting us and endlessly assail our people just to take what we have. So please go ahead, make the same mistake that 190 separate countries, Hitler, Rockwell and many many others made made. Let those who have so pulled at our people heartstrings through our women continue to survive so that they may do it again and again until they finally win and no before you even try they would do this with or without the jew, all they did was speed it up. There is no going back now, they know about us, and they will never stop coming. but please continue to shirk the responsibility our fathers failed to take up, i'm sure our many times great grandchildren will be grateful.

I have all the information I need to learn how to farm you idiot and have never read Siege, just noticed that our generation will fail just like those before us because we don't want that responsibility how mature of you.

>>97628

Alright, well fine then. What kind of effective action that will have a positive outcome do you recommend, and how do you recommend it be organized or coordinate?

>>96069

Speaking of Angry Goy, where the fuck is it even hosted now? I can't seem to find any links that are still up

>>97649

My primary thought is to unify all the currently disparate people we can on one and only one ideological point, the rest can be decided on and worked out to reflect Americans inner spirit as we go along. That point being our races survival assured forever, we create oaths to affirm absolute dedication to this and foster brotherhood among all of us and punish any traitors or those who would be easy targets for the feds to recruit as is necessary the same way Pierce did, the same way the Romans would, the same way we must, if we are to survive and win.

We start out peacefully, obviously, organizing, getting the money to start up, either through recruiting wealthy whites or less legitimate means and no I don't mean drugs or most forms of contraband or both specifics can be discussed in person should we ever actually meet. Next, buying buildings for the clubs, to begin turning the tide our way, at least ten to start, hopefully we can get them to take off and we can expand to hundreds of locations mostly in the Midwest and more populous but not major city regions of PNW and other areas with known populations sympathetic to us. How we keep out niggers 100%? Idk, certainly some few would join the clubs but they cannot go farther than that not with how things are in America.

These would, of course, need full-time managers and some kind of fitness regimen and facilities,(optional, but recommended), weekly events to engender brotherhood among the members, bars and allowing smoking in designated comfortable areas in those states that allow it for such businesses, in sheltered outdoor areas in those that don't, and family events and such so wives and children can be involved, even thinking of a women's counterpart to the men's clubs, which will be a riskier affair but women are needed. I have a few more ideas for if it should ever get more advanced and widespread but they need not be mentioned yet.

As we get larger with them funding our preparations for war and expansion we would need to carefully balance buying places to expand the clubs and production of weapons, armor, and whatever else we might need. Land for farming and housing if needed, buying warehouses in a variety of names for obvious reasons. We will need land in a variety of terrain types for training, some in the Rockies and Appalachia, some in the plains and deserts obviously need expert planning and be hidden or more accurately disguised well, how I'm not sure at the moment I am just one man and no expert.

I'm thinking for the training mostly indoor with outdoor ranges and for marching through woodlands and shit training them in guerrilla tactics which when not in use by us could be used as a fully operational gun ranges, no NS stuff held openly and services available to the public at large where possible with helpful friendly guides and range-masters to perhaps do a little red-pilling there. Absolutely no revealing our existence as an organization to anyone in the clubs until they are ready, and have been vetted extremely thoroughly I'm talking going everywhere we need to to verify any story they may have told, no using electronics to verify their shit at all it can be faked, reality not so much This will keep the feds out or to an absolute minimum. Generally using the clubs as a filter to keep out the undesirables and no protests, rallies or any other public events at least not under an NS banner unless we know for certain we have been discovered and hiding is pointless at public events.

Hopefully, and with luck this won't occur until we are ready to hold off any assault or to begin the war. we will do no public advocacy for any NS positions aside from recruitment for the clubs themselves and a good idea I saw elsewhere is to organize once we can penetrate the cities or at least suburbs is to hire the men we have recruited out to race-aware women for protection on the streets. Have them hire-able for odd-jobs helping our white communities, by generally being handy and this may be done openly as an organization, but we need not be known as more than helpful young white men who decided to work together to make their communities better.

I have more but I don't want to reveal too much more else the glowies might actually catch on, and take this seriously, if this isn't enough to start and convince you that i am serious, and I am by no means just a genocidal maniac and there will be absolutely no discussion of it in public, in meetings and gathering of those in the organization, it's a must but let it be known, I don't want to do it either, but it cannot be avoided or we will be causing our heirs to suffer just as we have and I, at least, will not allow them to suffer because we were weak.

>>97678

Ok very well, I follow your line of reasoning, but my point is the whole first half of your post is EXACTLY what we're talking about, so don't shit on it, we sound exactly alike. I just think we need to focus a lot more on the first part half of your plan there because nothing else will happen without that foundation you're laying out. There's nothing to fight about, we're on the same side and saying the same thing. I'm just saying advertising violence openly will only get you shut down before you even get to later stages.

>>97673

AFAIK Angry Goy is pretty much scrubbed from the web, but Angry Goy 2 is still out there and better anyway. Christoper Cantwell and Radical Agenda used to host it, but not anymore it seems. Likewise it's taken down off most of the web but AFAIK you can get it here still.

>http://www.the-savoisien.com/blog/index.php?post/Angry-Goy-II

>>97685

I know that, i figured here it doesn't matter, and it's always more fun and more distracting to the feds watching us all to discuss the end result but Hey live and learn.

What are your opinions about homesteading with a small group of like minded friends and slowly expanding from there?

>>99303

A solid start. You don't necessarily need any huge aspirations either, just good friends and people who you know will want to commit to the project and will be a net gain. Getting a self-sufficient little homestead going are the kind of building blocks we need in place to create parallel social structures for ourselves. You could get agriculture and livestock, weed, solar, build multiple yurts or other settlements, etc.

>>99306

Is it possible to really 100% self-sufficently these days? You would probably have the need to buy something every now and then to do that you need money, therefore, some sort of income. How do you reconcile these points?

>>97298

I will do something for you lurker anon. I think a l of us lurkers are thinking of the next move. I'm on the next move now.

>>99486

stormfront.org

>>99512

Stormfront is for boomers and is overrun with trolls, including some of the mods. Purityspiral.com or thepurityspiral.com is a more traditional western website more for younger generations

>>99339

Honestly no. Inevitably need some other expert, craftsmen, or just somebody who has some tool, knowledge or resources you don't, nobody has it all or can do it all. However, over the course of time the homestead will start to provide and supplement, and even replace financial expenditures in the outside world once you don't have to pay for a lot of food,energy, etc. because your self-sufficient place has finally gotten off the ground. Still though you always need some kind of "regular" job that you can do for income, hopefully something in a trade or tech capacity where you can easily pick up some new work or take a break without necessarily having to commit to some big employment contract.

Also marijuana is becoming increasingly legal and widely consumed in the USA, you could get into the low level weed business or rent some acreage of your homestead land to somebody who wants to. Likewise you can start growing tobacco, brewing alcohol and all kinds of other little things you can sell on the down low or at farmer's markets or whatever for supplement income. Get some goats and sell their milk and cheese, get some sheep and sheer their ass and sell the wool, or turn it into textiles and sell the fabric, etc. Once you have operational land it opens up a lot of windows and ways to make money.

>>99703

Thanks for the tips anon

>>99709

>(1)

Don't knock killing non-whites.

bump

>>120953

With no content? Fuck off.

>>120979

I already contributed, you fuck off.

>>121000

And yet it didn’t work out. Because no one’s going to network IRL. Because we know what happens to people who do that. We’re not suicidal.

>>95615

No. We need to change the culture of society. I don't believe anyone really wants to live in an authoritarian state, the principles of National Socialism are very good to take to heart though. In HAC's "The Hill of the Ravens" the white ethnostate becomes a sort of republic with national socialist tendencies, people can vote, but only after they've proven themselves to be extremely competent.

Oh why am I talking about that? In terms of organization, I'd avoid making any sort of Organizations that can be infiltrated and subverted, instead stick to forming friend groups of people you can rely on. And for fuck's sake, come home already.

>>121035

That only happens if you don't take precautions, we need this or we will lose, If you vet everyone who joins through both a gentlemans club and once you want to carry them past that through having people who will go and check out their origin stories in person, you will keep out feds, and there will always be some way to tell a fed from a non-fed especially if you check out their origins in person.

Why don't we try Jewish tactics, and lead the opposition?

>>121048

Did you miss the memo where we aren't jews? and the memo where we don't have the time to do that long march through the institutions and that the leaders of the movement in the 70's and earlier knew doing so was impossible even then?

>>99512

We need to disassociate ourselves from extreme NS views for the moment, keep it hidden… the last thing we fucking need is a website with White Power symbols…. what we really need is an group that praises self reliance, drug free communities, etc ideas that show off how well committed we are to our communities and brothers. We need to start off as basically a boys scout for young adults.

This should be extremely easy to do nowadays for the sole reason that almost half of young men nowadays are depressed loners (see incels are right and you are wrong book for more details, a good read). Our image of a strong, fit attractive group will attract others, not spewing FUCK NIGGERS KIKES and whatever else to the point of social isolation.

THIS GROUP SHOULD APPEASE TO YOUNG MEN IN MASS.

>>97564

>fascist ideas in a friendly wrapping

Even being well dressed, having a proper haircut, not being fat, not being vulgar, and fancying a dress style that's beyond the corporate suite'n'tie enrages normies, makes them feel nervous.

Sarcastic wrapping and jokes have proved to be far more efficient these days because we have much less freedom of speech. So people need a way to expel their fears and griefs.

Now being all joke and no seriousness won't work, but I insist that memes we share and spread must not contain codes that will result in more barriers being erected than minds being opened.

Our arguments should be associated to normies as much as possible so they identify with them.

Fascist and NatSoc regalia are not helping at all.

> Just boy's clubs

Incelism awaits. We need to go to places where women gather. Act like hunters.>>97572

>if you want to be truthful you must admit that logically exterminating or reducing the populations of all the Others on this planet by an extreme amount is absolutely necessary for long term if not permanent peace

This appears extreme to most but it's, unfortunately, the truth. We need to guarantee future peace and make room. Winning against Jews and their allies is but one part of the overall strategy of survival and ultimate victory.

>>121049

>Did you miss the memo where we aren't jews?

you don't use gun to defend yourself if the nigger attacking you does?

>>95615

>>95615

So are you talking to friends and neighbors about the current developments, and how a stronger government focused on the national health would address these issues?

>>122482

Honeypots are only dangerous if you plan to do something illegal. Nobody can arrest you for speaking about politics.

>>122907

False equivalence, i said we are not jews to outline that jewish tactics do not and have never worked for us.

>>123129

>i only know about the US laws

>>95822

If you don't think someone could make a startup, make nationalist media and make an absolute shoah of a killing solely by marketing it on the fact you're opposing Disney and EA you're fucking retarded.

>>124630

Problem is that they literally couldn't, the Banks and Payment processors would shut them down before they even got started.

Natsoc organizing only works if the organization is so big that "infiltration" won't be able to affect it.

>>95615

How about placing optics friendly posters at public schools?

>>95615

I recommend interfacing with well known groups which actively hunt down FBI informants. Patriot Front is good. therightstuff.biz has been traditionally hated on this board for historical reasons (they fucking had it coming for trying to take over the board), but they do organize behind the scenes and generally have good opsec/infosec.

Keep in mind, these groups are all about managing the decline: they're not about anything revolutionary. It's about making sure whites are networking, having kids, and staying out of drugs. There is nothing we can do at this point but survive and wait for our chance. Look to Goebbels for inspiration here.

>>137509

>Problem is that they literally couldn't, the Banks and Payment processors would shut them down before they even got started.

Word on the street is that we've found a loophole to get us past this, but I haven't heard what that is. Anyone have any info?

>>140057

>Keep in mind, these groups are all about managing the decline: they're not about anything revolutionary. It's about making sure whites are networking, having kids, and staying out of drugs. There is nothing we can do at this point but survive and wait for our chance.

Quick addendum: a good barometer for a "good group" is one which doesn't advocate violence or extra-legal means to any ends. Those are obvious FBI gay ops designed to entrap and destroy you so that they can make their careers better.

This can't be stressed enough: all we can do is get our ideas out there and survive this hellscape, waiting for our chance like Goebbels did. Don't fall for jewish tricks and don't purity spiral: that's what destroyed all the organizations which preceded us in this country and allowed the feds to take them over.

>>97065

This, any major movement particularly insurgency's if it were to come to that as it probably will actually needs at least to some degree public support or at least indifference. A guerrilla war cannot be successful without widespread sympathy e.g. in Vietnam the commies would never have won if the villagers and townsfolk who the commies interacted with had kept telling US and South Vietnamese troops where the commies were located and given them food and shelter from time to time, the same applies to the Soviet Afghan war.

Naturally normies would have a lot more sympathy for our cause if we engaged them more in community projects, interacting with them more. It is much easier to hate a faceless enemy as the globalists are trying to portray us as that a more personal closer enemy.

Key thing is not to totally isolate ourselves from the current on the surface at least majority.

Why not call yourself SoNat . And then use Moonlight Sonata as theme for movement. Make the movement associated with beauty and calmness.

>>140058

The only loophole that i know of is creating your own currency, a very dangerous prospect, as there are only a few ways in which you can do that anywhere and not get your shit pushed in by ZOG and by that I mean a physical one as digital currencies literally have no point should the internet go down ever.

>>140059

So we must stay entirely within the system and not oppose it in any way, every dime that they don't get in taxes is a boon for our side, any group that's looking to actually accomplish anything needs money to get the supplies

needed to field an army and keep it fielded until our mission is complete, if extra-legal means are used for this purpose it should not be discarded,as either a tactic to weaken our enemies and not just the ZOG.

Now does that mean you should join a group who immediately tries to bait you into doing something no, but if you are going to do this successfully, at this point extra-legal means will be a requirement to accomplish anything of merit.

>>140057

The leaders of Patriot Front literally snitched their own out to feds, they cannot be trusted.

>>96883

>REMINDER RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST CHANCE WE HAVE EVER HAD AT ORGANIZING IRL DUE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT BEING DISTRACTED BY ANTIFA/BLM/DEFUNDING ATTEMPTS

FTFY

>>139898

>Natsoc organizing only works if the organization is so big that "infiltration" won't be able to affect it.

It will also work if the cops think they have better job security with us than at their current department.

>>140797

The feds are not distracted, however, so play\ at that in the open carefully.

>>95988

Has anyone noticed how many book, movie and game universes and plots are very conservative, say fascist? Even more when pushing the environment into a time period that is distant, which by definition requires less pozz to be validated?

Why should we allow our enemies to make the defense of our culture something bad?

Culture is a nice word which, even properly explored, leads to race, but it takes many steps to get there so that defense of culture can be general enough, especially since it's something claimed by all large and minor groups of color.

Like we need a more badass and retro-conservative version of Zelda for example.

>>96274

>free trade school

That same old trope.

True free trade is where a kike can use usury and one day, buy your mother and her organs. In due time, this is where it leads us.

>>140366

Failure ahead imho.

Too many non whites, too many leftists, too much censorship and taxes. You couldn't even start a soft-pol business without being immediately targeted for wrong think because you smiled at a gay couple.

You cannot filter degenerates and people of color, you will be reported, doxed, taxed, jailed, ruined.

The clean method is over.

We need a violent revolution but this can only be achieved if whites are sufficiently pissed off and ruined.

Luckily Jews have pushed the migrant card so far that the Western countries will soon become unmanageable.

It sucks, there will be much destruction and suffering. I am not sure how this can be avoided.

>>95798

>SS dunes

ph34r the dunic madjick

>>145104

FEAR IT

>>144947

You're right, at least we still have the Hakenkreuz.