d95f56 No.47049[Last 50 Posts]
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a1a1e4 No.47065
Those damn Iranians, always trying to invade our privacy…
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000000 No.47076
Iranian Hackers.
Good one.
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000000 No.47078
>>47049
Iranian hacker here.
All your VPNs belongs to us.
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844dda No.47109
>>47065
Sad people actually buy this stupid shit and never connect the dot it's always people the Jewnited States of America wants to attack. Before it was Russia, then China, then North Korea and bouncing between them any given day. As if Israel hasn't backdoored all our electronic components already or the NSA with its deep involvement with cryptography consortium's.
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834d1a No.47123
>>47049
>Doubt
Stupid fucking masses actually buy not only this but also muh Russian "hackers." Attribution is easy, especially with the tools available to the deep state. There was a time when media would actually investigate what it was being told. Those days are long gone.
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2871e5 No.47622
>>47049
my personal VPN is not having any fucking life the feds could destroy in the first place
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933a07 No.47754
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1e4f10 No.47947
>>47049
>Are VPN’s still secure?
Wrong question.
The right question is were they ever secure in the first place?
And the answer is "not really".
They keep the websites you visit from knowing where you are, but that is about it. The company providing you with the VPN service knows (and tracks) who you are, your ISP knows (and tracks) who you are and your initial IP reassignment, and the Feds have ample ability to not only track your VPN relays back to you but to subpoena all the records of each location and service if you use multiples before you are even done posting your first image.
For the most part they don't bother unless they are already looking for you to begin with, as there is simply too much data involved for them to do that for everyone. But if you think that even multiple VPNs will protect you from the Feds you are a fool.
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a4ca23 No.48098
>>47947
>The company providing you with the VPN service knows (and tracks) who you are, your ISP knows (and tracks) who you are and your initial IP reassignment, and the Feds have ample ability to not only track your VPN relays back to you
Correct which is why I use Tor and a meta-spoofer when I'm accessing sites like this anyway. All my VPN will know is that I also use Tor for whatever reason. And my ISP still doesn't know jack shit except that I use a VPN. The more IPs you hop around and piggyback the more difficult it is for them to trace everything you are doing online. Spoof your MAC address and reroute your real IP to the local host IP (127.0.0.1) should also add difficulty to prying eyes.
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9e9437 No.48229
Fuck no they were never secure unless you made one yourself
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1f2d81 No.48534
>>47109
>Put in a backdoor in your hardware/software or your family will die.
You have no power to stop them. Of course everything will capitulate. Israel is the frontman for the global banking elite which is the frontman for Satan himself.
NSA does what uncle sam says and uncle sam was taken over by the juice in 1913. It's all compartmentalized so good people do evil things and never have to know it.
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1f2d81 No.48538
>>48229
That's probably less secure since your incompetence likely made you implement it wrong.
ON top of that, it's tied back to a server YOU control and probably pay for…which comes right back to you.
Worse of all, the only people you really could confound with a VPN will be able to identify your unique IP as being you – even if they don't know who you are.
Whereas with a public VPN it's one IP for thousands and that gets hard for them.
You have to really think your threat model through. Against random internet script kiddies yeah your VPN works great. Against Israel, the NSA and the true elites of the world… lol. The only way to secure your computer is to nuke it and never touch one again.
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d1ef0d No.48614
>>47049
Iran is not even an independent state FFS. The oil companies owned that real estate since 100 years, and the "islamic republic" front is just the original version of ISIS; Brzezinski chessboard 101. WW3 trigger is the purpose of that neocon outpost. Not even saging this thread since literally every reply understands OPs radioactive shit.
Also amazing how Iran does this shit every time Netanyahu has a speech somewhere
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8f97b5 No.48672
>>47049
Don't lose the plot folks…
>Are VPNs real?
>>No, but…
There are too many player with so much skin in the game that it has become a nexus. Does the NSA and others break and keep this data; yes, but blowing the lid on this thing is the ideological equivalent of nuclear Armageddon. The issue, if you listen to what big government says about the topic, has more to do with how to unchew the gum back into it's original stick form than anything else.
>In order to have sides, both parties have to have skin in the game.
>In order to have a game you need players.
>It is not possible to play and be innocent.
>Part of having skin in the game is making some form of ideological profit or advance.
>In order to profit/advance you have to knowingly take advantage of people at a rate greater than even.
It doesn't matter how you work this thing is exists therefor it is. It really is simple as that.
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8f97b5 No.48673
>>47049
>>48672
The insurance is that the government is playing both sides of this thing so hard that it cannot be untangled without making it's 'dark side' quantity known, and I assure you that no one wants to know the answer to that. The illusion of the Government's control is so great that it has so completely lost control that exposing this thing is an existential threat.
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d8cd6e No.48674
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8f97b5 No.48681
>>48674
I posted.
>>48672
>>48673
If the response is good. I will juice this thread on a level that is so based with truth that heads will explode.
1. If this thing wasn't a mess Facebook wouldn't be asking the government what is approved speech.
2. Qanon wouldn't exist.
3. 8kun couldn't functionally operate.
There are so many hands in so many cookie jars right now that nobody can possibly afford the truth without blood… And there will be blood.
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8f97b5 No.48688
>>48674
A lot of people are giving FaceBook a hard time right now because they are asking for a list of what is 'approved' speech. What people are not aware of is that this is actually a subversive move towards a death blow.
By creating potential difference by what has been said versus what is to be said, a lynch pin of sorts is created that when pulled creates a paradox that is similar to the chicken and the egg. By hosting such a large core of the American mind at any given time I can't imagine what would happen (the system has hidden mechanisms that would immediately trigger self destruction in specifically that scenario).
People often misunderstand how China censors speech. Part of controlling what goes out also involve controlling what leaks. I find it strange that people are oblivious to the fact that the second mechanism of control in their censored society is the intentional controlled leakage and spillage of information as they have to have something to gauge opinion. When things 'get by' the censors I laugh….
YouTube makes one minor change and whole genres cease to exist, but 'things get by Chinese censors?'
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0cd33f No.48693
>>48681
>If the response is good
Don't be a faggoty little attention whore. Either drop what you've got or fuck off back to whatever LARPy hole you crawled out of. As old /b/ used to say:
We don't beg
We don't shout
Show your tits
Or get the fuck out
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775b5c No.48716
Newsflash: No vpn is secure
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542c52 No.48725
>tfw dont have to pay for a vpn thanks to pastebin
Feels good man.
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c03316 No.48727
>>48716
Secure enough to shitpost on IBs without having to worry about getting banned. Good enough for me.
>>48725
>pastebin
>Not using SoftEther to scrape VPN Gate
It's like you want to be nigger-tier.
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e82d7e No.48739
>Iranian hackers
But I thought that hackers were supposed to be Russian?
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542c52 No.48748
>>48727
>SoftEther
Looks like a pain in the ass just to pirate some entertainment, though if that's not the case tell me more.
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b09c1a No.48772
Anti-VPN shills are glowers.
When you use a VPN you get it from a provider who has never complied with law enforcement, opposed to ISPs who regularly hand over data on their users voluntarily to law enforcement. Aside from that, you use a shared IP so it's harder to identify you.
VPNs are not foolproof, though they are better than ISPs if you choose correctly.
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0cd33f No.48779
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542c52 No.48784
>>48779
I'll look into it later.
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829ad7 No.48789
I forgot I made this bread and i tought it was dead.
>Cia Nigger
Sorry for the post,I was Just concerned and wanting to connect the dots.
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d3b505 No.48803
>>48772
This. As long as you are not making bomb threats over the internet most VPNs won't turn you in unless the feds have a warrant. Even then, many VPNs outside the Five Eyes do not keep IP logs on users. And if you are scared your VPN is logging IPs you could connect to one of Epic's proxies or use Tor over the VPN. If you use Epic or Tor your VPN can't see exactly what you are doing, just like your ISP can't see exactly what you are doing over a VPN.
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58e371 No.48807
>>48716
You could find reasons to say that about Tor too but you are much safer using a VPN or Tor than using your real IP over an unencrypted connection.
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e7c13d No.48816
>>47622
That's the way I look at it too. And when I go to more controversial websites such as this which could throw up red flags I simply connect VPN>Tor as an added measure of defense. Outside of doing something very stupid like making bomb threats or posting CP you should be ok and will be left alone.
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d1ef0d No.49046
>>48614
>tfw dont have to pay for a vpn thanks to pastebin
I pity the naive who don't know you're joking. Back in the day those free proxies were straight traces to "government of lebanon" etc. These days I'm sure it's not so easy.
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52e7e8 No.49212
>>48772
how is the proton mail one? i just got an email from them.
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000000 No.49223
VPN has never been secure.
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3b3685 No.49232
Stop using VPN's silly Goyim.
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000000 No.49277
>>49232
Trust this totally reputable company, it's totally reputable because they say they are goyim.
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a9b993 No.49330
>>49277
That is why you find out if they are reputable by seeing what their track record is. If a large number using their VPN end up getting v& not too long afterwards, they are probably not very reliable.
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000000 No.49338
The VPN threat model boils down to this
>use bare IP where your traffic is guaranteed to be monitored and logged for the government
>use VPN where there's a chance the company monitors and logs your traffic, which if discovered would bankrupt the entire company
If the choice is between the certainty or the possibility of my traffic being logged, I'll go with the possibility.
Also kill yourself for not archiving your links cuckchan niggers. OP should have been banned for direct linking an article.
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f89e03 No.50113
Never trust any security measure 100%. Never trust CIA niggers. They glow in the dark.
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4c580d No.50181
>>48681
>And there will be blood.
With talk like that on this particular website, you better hope your VPN is a good one.
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4c580d No.50184
>>48772
>When you use a VPN you get it from a provider who has never complied with law enforcement, opposed to ISPs who regularly hand over data on their users voluntarily to law enforcement.
You still haven't explained how this prevents the Feds from intercepting the transmission itself, piggy-backing on it, and live tracing it right to your house without needing to involve the VPN services or the ISP. Because they do that you know.
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4c580d No.50185
>>49338
>OP should have been banned for direct linking an article.
Yeah, well…alot of people around here should have been banned for a lot worse shit than that.
Welcome to 8kunt.
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0bb2f3 No.50237
Can (((they))) still find you if you're using a VPN that doesn't keep logs?
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3b839a No.50290
>>50237
They don't need to interact with the VPN at all. All they need to do is access one leg of your post's journey in between your VPNs or anywhere between the source of the post and its destination, and they can follow the message all the way back to its origin.
See, whenever you post something, once it gets to where it is going it returns verification to your device. So it doesn't matter where in the chain the message gets picked up, the Feds can attach their own tracker bits to it and follow it through all your VPNs, through TOR, through your ISP, straight to your device.
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f4284e No.51056
>>48727
>SoftEther
I bet you using Windblows too, scrub
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f4284e No.51057
>>50237
>VPN that doesn't keep logs
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0cd33f No.51071
>>51056
If you know what you're doing, there's nothing wrong with Windows.
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5699c1 No.51073
>>47049
No, and they never were.
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f4284e No.51093
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0cd33f No.51098
>>51093
The operative part being "if you know what you're doing". You clearly don't know what you're doing.
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6f6fca No.51100
>>50237
Pretty much all VPN services are legally required to keep logs, especially the ones with servers everywhere. Can't expect to have a server in the US but not follow US regulations. Same goes for any place that hosts server. You always have to follow local legislation. Its a best practice to just assume any commercial VPN service logs your traffic.
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f4284e No.51141
>>51098
you're not even worth a rebuttal
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a27320 No.51148
Depends on what you want to do. If you want to hide what you do from your ISP then sure. If you want to stay "private" then not. Use TOR.
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0cd33f No.51150
>>51141
Yet, you gave one anyway. What's it like being retarded?
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f4284e No.51163
>>51150
Don't know, you tell me mr "I am a secure windblows user that doesn't know what rebuttal means"
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0bb2f3 No.51165
>>51100
NordVPN is known to not keep logs.
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000000 No.51184
>>51165
at the cost of having utterly shit service and fisher-price UI that you can't configure in any way
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4de1c5 No.51193
>>50184
>how do you prevent this?
You can't, there will always be something left behind. The purpose behind VPN's, proxies, Tor, etc. is not to be perfect but to make it as hard as possible for them to definitively nail you. If you want to be untraceable, you don't use the net at all. If you want to use the net and be untraceable, then you'll have to come to grips with the fact that all you can do is make it harder to be identified.
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0cd33f No.51245
>>51163
I don't use windows. I can't imagine how retarded one must be in order to not know how a simple ID works. I merely said that there's nothing wrong with it if you know what you're doing. Then you sperged out in the most brilliant fashion.
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461244 No.51265
>>51163
Fucking kikes always posting pics of women to subvert the goys. Always writing with an attitude of "it's me you must impress got cattle, I am the special boy"
So obvious once you see it.
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461244 No.51269
>>50113
Everything glows in the dark once you know their frequency.
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461244 No.51277
>>50237
Depends who you mean by (((they))). Certainly there are some that can.
Threat model your shit.
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33d982 No.51407
>>47049
VPNs have always had the trade off of securing your information from others at the cost of the VPN having it privy and specific. The information could always be requested or seized of the VPN no matter its location. It fulfills the purpose of obfuscation while sacrificing your traffic to another entity.
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000000 No.51475
>>47622
Oh oh, OHH many ways all the theys can fuck you.
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4a1fe6 No.51509
>>51071
>using wind-hoes in current [current year]
die in a fire
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bbc307 No.51623
>>51245
Just because your retarded to think using windblows is secure that means I sperged?
wew
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bb7476 No.51628
>>47049
>those ebul iranians hacking my election
There's your answer faggot.
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820592 No.51647
>>51628
It never said anything about elections you absolute retard.
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bb7476 No.51668
>>51647
And that was not the point, you useful idiot >(1) golem.
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80d249 No.52497
if you dont nueter your intel management engine chip
it doesnt matter what vpn you use
libreboot or coreboot with nuetered MEI
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498e83 No.52554
why does everyone care so much about someone knowing the things they do online or if they view this website?
quit doing dumbass shit online. period. really simple way to live life. "oh no i visited 8chan." man my lifes over now. fucking pussy ass faggots.
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4bd9b4 No.52637
>>52554
Whats it like to not have a single regret in your entire life because you have superhuman levels of hindsight?
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f5488f No.53123
>>47049
>Iranian hackers
t. kike trying to start the next war
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cfb0b0 No.53224
since this thread is open, i'm surprised that white identitarian aren't investing time into learning more about technology and programming.
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d7e2c4 No.53232
i thought Israel was the capital of cyber security?
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cfb0b0 No.53246
>>53232
aren't ruskies considered the "best" programmers? i heard that eastern euros are pretty good programmers
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d7e2c4 No.53254
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cfb0b0 No.53266
>>53254
i know about these articles but i'm saying jews are not considered the best programmers so how are the the best in that industry?
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d7e2c4 No.53281
>>53266
if you say so man. I know their president said it himself, that they run the IT security field. Hell, they even made the Stuxnet, come on
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9e9437 No.53855
>>51165
Anon they got caught selling data to UK government a while back
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9e9437 No.53856
>>49212
They send data through isreal
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265a3a No.55116
I have been warned multiple times in the past by my ISP, stating there have been copyright strikes placed on my IP by Bethesda. I have torrented Bethesda games in the past, so it's likely they setup honeypot IP's in popular torrents, then once someone inevitably starts DLing from their IP, they whine and complain to that persons ISP. Best of all, they claimed I was illegally distributing their content, because technically, whenever you leech a torrent, you have no choice but to also share in uploading it, no matter how much you restrict the upload, so technically they are right but it's still bullshit. Anyways after the 3rd strike my ISP had to shut down my net for 3 days, they warned me if it happened again the next warning would be a 7 day shut down. I live in NY and use Optimum online for anyone wondering.
Either way, the point of this post? My habits haven't changed, I still torrent and download shit illegally all the time, the difference now is that I use a VPN. My ISP has never called me since and it has been a couple years since I got the vpn and since that last warning.
Take this with a gain of salt since it's just a blogpost and I am a lone, single statistic, but I'm convinced my VPN is helping me. Do I think a VPN will protect you from big daddy government? Or protect you from doing extremely illegal shit? Probably not, but it sure as hell will protect you from copyright infringement. The thing is, on paper a VPN obviously works, just like TOR does, what it depends on is trust. Can you trust a VPN? Like I said, depends on the severity of what you plan to do.
So IMO if you are like me and the worst you do is pirate, you have 3 options(unless your ISP isn't fag like mine and doesn't cave into copyright complaints). You either get a VPN, use TOR(which will not work with torrents), or exclusively use downloaders like Mega because they are impossible to trace back to you. TOR's weakness is it's P2P nature, companies can easily exploit it, but companies cannot catch you when using services like Mega. Also, fuck Bethesda for going so far out of their way to catch pirates when they already have so much money, they have become such a greedy jew company.
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db53ae No.55665
>>51056
> If you know what you're doing, there's nothing wrong with Windows.
Correct. Because if you know what you're doing you're not using windows.
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f2d4e1 No.56116
>>47049
VPNs were never secure because they are not explicitly designed to be that way. You have to trust the provider that they aren't harvesting your traffic when it gets routed to their servers.
Tor on the other hand is designed from the ground up with security and anonymity in mind. Neither the entry node, relay node, nor the exit node you use have both the original ip address you connected with and the destination site you go to, and all packets sent through Tor are given 3 layers of encryption that are removed as its sent and replaced as it returns by the nodes. Only your own fuck ups can de anonymize you. If you cannot use Tor or want to download torrents use a VPN for everything else use Tor. There's a reason the NSA hate Tor.
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2ce60b No.56530
Nothing is 100% secure, it's up to everyone how much they wanna risk, VPNs aren't a magical invisibility cloak.
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975fd2 No.60776
>>47947
You can further protect yourself by using a pre-paid Visa gift card when buying the VPN service.
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03e7cc No.60812
>>56530
THIS. I still use a VPN though but always connect to Tor and Epic Privacy Browser to shitpost online. The more encrypted proxies you use the better. And with the Mozilla fork for Tor you can install a metaspoofer to further obfuscate data as you browse online. Is it possible they can still track you? Yes if you don't routinely wipe out your local DOM storage but I do that too. Nothing is perfect but as long as you DE-compartmentalize web activities and take measures as stated above it makes it all the more hard to track down individuals.
Thank God for Edward Snowden, that dude taught us a lot.
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d8c820 No.60837
>>55665
I agree to some extent but older Windows (Win 2000, XP, Vista, 7) can be secured a lot better by removing bloatware and unnecessary services (and removing some easy hacking targets like remote desktop inside the registry and making sure the permissions don't include remote user access: just your account, the administrator and system). I also use something called Process Explorer to monitor any background activity [task manager is nothing close to this]. If anything nefarious shows up, something I don't use, I know about it and can suspend or terminate that nefarious program and trace it's process to the source and remove it manually if it is proven to be a threat]. Considering I take extra-ordinary precautions I have never had a major issue or problem and my OS runs very smooth and quick. If in the event I am hacked, well, there is not much information on my OS they can use to identify me because I use forward secrecy [for this computer and connection anyway].
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