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57082c (3)  No.299522>>299525 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

So I was reading some random book series lately, and realized all of them are heavily influenced by what my wife called "The Message", that is gender equity, left-wing-ish economics and so on.

The books range from obvious (like feminist talking points out in the open, for example Mistborn 4 mentioning a female protagonist of Mistborn 1 as being an example of strong woman that causes gender equality) to "Neutral" (like Lost Fleet series, no political talking points regarding gender, but the books display equal amounts of men and women in the military, and seemly people are excellent in following regulations of not having sex while in the military, since the books never deal with pregnancy or other factors that affect women in the military).

So I was hoping for some book recommendations that either are just realistic (ie: people follow RL gender roles and the subject is not talked about) or if the subject is actually brought up, it doesn't portray "The Message" as the only correct political view.

Some stuff I would like to see:

* Sci-fi or fantasy books where gender roles follow historical norms

* Books that make obvious that post-scarcity is not a thing, resources are limited and economical equality is actually impossible unless something actually crazy happens (like singularity and so on)

* Military or combat-focused books where women are NOT physically strong as men (they can still be present in combat, but shouldn't just go around winning fistfights with men all the time, or carrying around extremely heavy guns with heavy recoil and firing them unassisted).

Or for more extreme ones:

books where women are submissive but this is NOT a bad thing. (there are plenty of books where women are submissive but this is evil or was caused by an antagonist the protagonist must defeat)

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549528 (2)  No.299525 >>299527

>>299522 (OP)

So, what you're saying here is that you want FANTASY books that have no actual fantasy in them? Cool. Why not just read history textbooks?

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57082c (3)  No.299526

Oh yeah, I am yet to see a book where Polyginy is accepted…

Usually you either see monogamy-only or the book promotes promiscuity…

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57082c (3)  No.299527

>>299525

My beef is not so much with fantasy, but with sci-fi, specially harder sci-fi…

As for fantasy I am ok with it being… fantastic.

For example, if you have a female knight because there is magic to make them stronger, that is ok…

But if you have a 1.50m female knight defeating a 2m male knight and this is completely normal in that book universe… then something is wrong.

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83944c (1)  No.299717 >>299751

Besides, I recommend you travel to the tribes where humans haven't started to write books and observe them. Why is it important? It may help you understand what women's role is before humans start to assign them roles.

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549528 (2)  No.299751 >>300100 >>300102

>>299717

Humans, until the modern era, have primarily been matriarchal. So, um, yeah.

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71a414 (1)  No.300100

>>299751

I wonder what you are smoking to reach that conclusion somehow… O.o

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3d220c (1)  No.300102

>>299751

I have been thinking about niggers lately and how no nigger man knows its own offspring. Was thinking that we need to follow some form of this so that men would settle down and be peaceful towards their children since they would never know if they were murdering their own child. Child sacrifice is so popular with them now, this might help.

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