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The first falsehood is that the brain generates consciousness, and so, with the death of one’s physical body, one’s consciousness will be extinguished. The second falsehood is that this physical world is all there is, and the worlds seen in dreams and visions are illusory. The third falsehood is that neither consciousness nor the physical world is divine in any sense, both being mundane expressions of physical causes.

All of these falsehoods are known to be falsehoods by anyone who has studied occult philosophy – but therein lies the problem. Anyone who realises that any of these three assertions are false is labelled mentally ill by the Clown World herd. In Clown World, it’s taken as granted that only the mentally ill would question one of these three great spiritual dogmas, and so these terrible metaphysical lodestones continue to weigh us down.

The Western World of 2021 is in desperate need of a spiritual revolution.

During the recent cannabis referendum debate in New Zealand, the mainstream media featured people making most of the arguments that VJM Publishing has also made for cannabis law reform. One argument they didn’t make, however, was that cannabis is a spiritual sacrament that helps people reconnect to the divine, and therefore ought to be legal on spiritual grounds.

Arguably, cannabis is already legal under Sections 13 and 15 of the NZ Bill of Rights Act, which enshrine the right to religious practice. Unfortunately, no-one except for VJM Publishing made this argument. Alternative spiritual practices are highly taboo in Clown World society, as evidenced by the case of Dr. Scott. As such, the prevailing narrative is that cannabis causes mental illness, not that it grants spiritual insight.

As anyone who has ever dealt with the mental health services has learned, the Establishment will not allow any talk of spirituality. Anyone who denies one of the three assertions mentioned above is considered mentally ill – and no discussion will be had. This goes triple for anyone who came to deny one of those assertions after doing a psychoactive drug. Such people cannot escape the label of mental illness, because the three false assertions are believed with such obstinate righteousness that even questioning them is an outrage.

The natural reaction, upon learning that society is built on false metaphysical assumptions, is to become anxious. It is terrifying to realise that society has got the basics wrong and that we’re causing a massive amount of unnecessary suffering to ourselves for no rational reason. It’s horrifying to realise that Plato, the founder of Western civilisation, wrote about his belief in reincarnation in Timaeus, and yet this belief is routinely casually dismissed by far, far, far lesser minds.

Western society today has no conception of “took a spiritual sacrament, became wiser, is now operating on a higher plane.” It’s merely “took drugs, went mad.” Clown World, being the combination of soulless corporate whoring and soulless anti-intellectual rabble rousing, has no ideological space for anything spiritual. All talk of spiritual insight, all questioning of the three great dogmas, is merely mental illness. Anyone expressing such sentiments needs sedative medication, or, at least, to get kicked out of their job.

Such is the wretched state of spirituality in Clown World.

>>254107

Poor "Johnny Neptune", once again proving what Atheists set out to prove every day:

That, as insufferable as they are, those who think they know what IS, cannot begin to compare in cuntiness to those who think they know what ISN'T.

You see, atheists are "believers" too. And "believers" oftentimes become the problem! Especially when they impose their belief-systems on others, or tear down everything that others hold dear.

And let's not forget that"Woke"ism IS a RELIGION.A Secular Religion, but a RELIGION, nonetheless.

> PDF related

>>254076

>>254077

Well delineated. Don't let insufferable cunts like "Johnny Neptune" affect your creativity, nor the enactment of your true will; any more than you would let a religionist or atheist tell you what is or isn't. They are, like you said, living in Clown World; and they would like you to participate in their Game.

What neither Believers nor those who Refuse to Believe in Anything (except Big Daddy Government taking care of everyone and telling them what to do and how to think and be) what they never never figure out, is thatThis Isn't a Game.Protip: Only Losers Think That.

Those who are on a Seeking Path, like Spirituality, are certain that this is all PLAY. "Leela"

Beliefs are mere tools to them. When new information is made apparent it is not made to fit into a confining belief system, like believers do. Instead, the entire plastic belief system is capable of changing to fit any new information that may require it. Believers do not have that flexibility; therefore, it is they who are far more prone to mental illnesses of every kind — trying to make everything fit their oftentimes inflexible viewpoints. It is also widely known that it is a very popular belief amongst the insane to think that they are actually the only sane ones!

As for the rampant materialism that has so infected most modern thinking, and has so permeated the organized religious world, including Secular Religions like "Woke"ism…

You hit the nail on the head with that one, OP!

It seems such a simple thing, but it is truly revolutionary! Try imagining that the material world is created by consciousness, not the other way around! As in, the chemical processes in the brain are NOT creating what we think of as Consciousness. Rather, what we think of as Consciousness is not only creating the chemical processes in your brain, but your whole body, and everything you think of as "The Universe"! Like I said, it is a revolutionary thought. It means YOU are Responsible. You are the Center of the Infinite Universe. That Center which is EVERYWHERE EVERYWHEN, Here & Now, Manifesting, or Nought, or Neither Neither…

Yeah Systems based on Control of supposed "Others", don't like the FREEDOM of that Stance much. They would much rather Be Controlled and Control supposed "Others". It's kinda their Game.

I Prefer PLAY.

All Verb.

>>255234

People seem desperate for some sense of meaning nowadays, and they seek it in the validation they get from others in relationship to the fake facades they have built up about themselves, especially on social media. This has spilled over into our everyday relationships with friends, family and co-workers. So many spend so much time protecting these fake facades, and tearing down the the altars that others might have also made unto insubstantiality in their own worship of "Persona".

>>255234

> I Prefer PLAY.

> All Verb.

No Players. Just the PLAY (Please!)

>>255650

The "Woke" have allies.

The Conforming Religious have allies.

Those who live outside the pale (where the former have driven them) have few allies, and pretty much wouldn't know what to do with them anyway, tbqh.

The constant beatdowns from Evil Clowns are bad enough, but most castaways are so well trained by Clown World that they spend inordinate amounts of the their own lifetimes assaulting themselves and their own sensibilities. And, even if they sally forth from that worthless endeavor, they are right back where they started, and the beatdowns continue… With any luck they learn to grow a thicker skin and take more abuse, because the conformists will never stop trying to enforce conformity from all "else" (so you best not turn yourself into an "Else", lest there be consequences…)

Valuing Authenticity has a price. The cost of Admission to Freedom to be You is high. The price is Acceptance. Acceptance comes with Personal Responsibility.

Organized Religions don't seem to promote Authenticity or Self Control very much. They pretty much all use a Top→Down approach, and shit rolls downhill. Now Big Daddy Government is the new "Woke" Religion's All-Powerful Entity from on high that is better than you mere peons and has the right to treat you like the shit that you are (and get all its other "Woke" adherents to treat you like shit too), and pretty soon you are shit, because that is all anyone ever wanted you to be, including you.

It doesn't have to be like that! There is a Spiritual Path, but each must seek, find and walk that path alone. None may approach by the same passage, nor are there always fellow travelers, or even a clear trail, but dogged determination and a positive certainty in one's every step will certainly go far.

As for this place, it is no secret that certain kinds of individuals find themselves more at home in a place where they can practice a bit more authenticity than in the fake Clown World of social media and the like, so pseudonymous image boards do seem to hold an attraction for those who have been driven beyond the pale. But even here, there is pressure to conform, and the utter faggotry is ordinarily quite thick. It's bad enough that most of us are treated like children by Clown World, but when we have a chance to be ourselves and practice Authenticity, we often revert into childish behavior that sometimes rivals even the conformist immaturity surrounding us, that we are so busy reacting to that we forget to be Authentic. And we do it here too. We do it here, we do it there, we do it everywhere.

So, I guess, what I'm trying to say is that in order to "Defeat" Clown World we need to Grow Up, Accept Personal Responsibility for this Infinite Universe of which we, and everyone else, are the ever-changing Center of Action. While it is important to get our bearings, find our compass, establish a sense of direction, discover our true will, (however you wanna look at it…), there is no need to fill up an entire lifetime doing it! At a certain point ya just gottaBE.

That's what Acceptance is all about.

The Good, The Bad & the Ugly TRUTH of it is that there is no"thing" out "there" to be at "war" with.

ABRAXAS Lives

Just because there is no "Other" does not mean you are alone, brother!

>>255685

> The cost of Admission to Freedom to be You is high.

But reading this book is free. (and fairly freeing too!)

THE BOOK On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are

by Alan Watts

>>255691

I like this quote:

It might seem, then, that our need is for some genius to invent a new religion, a philosophy of life and a view of the world, that is plausible and generally acceptable for the late twentieth century, and through which every individual can feel that the world as a whole and his own life in particular have meaning. This, as history has shown repeatedly, is not enough. Religions are divisive and quarrelsome. They are a form of one-upmanship because they depend upon separating the "saved" from the "damned," the true believers from the heretics, the in-group from the out-group. Even religious liberals play the game of "we're-more-tolerant-than-you." Furthermore, as systems of doctrine, symbolism, and behavior, religions harden into institutions that must command loyalty, be defended and kept "pure," and—because all belief is fervent hope, and thus a cover-up for doubt and uncertainty—religions must make converts. The more people who agree with us, the less nagging insecurity about our position. In the end one is committed to being a Christian or a Buddhist come what may in the form of new knowledge. New and indigestible ideas have to be wangled into the religious tradition, however inconsistent with its original doctrines, so that the believer can still take his stand and assert, "I am first and foremost a follower of Christ/Mohammed/Buddha, or whomever." Irrevocable commitment to any religion is not only intellectual suicide; it is positive unfaith because it closes the mind to any new vision of the world. Faith is, above all, openness—an act of trust in the unknown.

> Those-Who-Think-They-Know-What-IS-and-ISn-t.jpg

>>255711

Put me in the screencap.

>>255961

From the Preface to the SRIMAD BHAGAVAD-GITA:

Generally, Sri Gita is known as an excellent study of the science of religion. The language of Sri Gita is simple and sweet; its mood is grave, extensive, and fundamental; its thought is brief, distinct, andimpartial; and its logic is sound and natural. The prologue, epilogue,exposition, review, analysis, synthesis, and art of presentation of Sri Gita is unprecedented and charming to the extreme. Sri Gita is activation for the lazy, courage for the coward, hope for the hopeless,and new life for the dying. Sri Gita unifies and sustains all ranks,whether revolutionist, occultist, optimist, renunciationist, liberationist,or full-fledged theist. From the atheist of grossly crude vision to the most elevated saint the essential conceptions of all classes of philosophers are dealt with in clear and forceful logic. The fruitive worker, the learned, and the yoga practitioner (karmi, jnani, and yogi)and the devotee of the Lord will find herein a comprehensive and illuminating exposition on the substance of their respective philosophies, and thus the book is highly esteemed by all. The essential teachings of the Vedas and Upanisads of the Aryans is directly explained, and upon a little closer scrutiny, the gist of various non-Aryan doctrines may also be detected in the text. Within the purport of Sri Gita we find that the purification of consciousness through wisdom arises from materially unmotivated performance of scripturally enjoined duties, resulting in self-knowledge absolute existential knowledge, or divine realization. In full maturity, this pure,spotless perception culminates in the quest for loving service in pure cognition, in the divine ecstatic realm.

>>256013

Many commentaries on the Bhagavad Gita…

https://www.bhagavad-gita.us/

>>256020

A lot of cool artwork has been inspired by the Bhagavad Gita also…

https://www.bhagavad-gita.us/the-bhagavad-gita-in-pictures/

and every post I make about it has the added benefit of pushing the buttons of both Neptune and Marshmallow Mussolini!

Translation of Bhagavad Gita 9.2 https://www.bhagavad-gita.us/bhagavad-gita-9-2/ :

> This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed.

Translation of Bhagavad Gita 9.10 https://www.bhagavad-gita.us/bhagavad-gita-9-10/ :

> This material nature, which is one of My energies, is working under My direction, O son of Kunti, producing all moving and nonmoving beings. Under its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and again.

Commentary by Sri Abhinavagupta of Kaula Tantra Sampradaya:

> There is for Me no bondage of actions, because I remain unconcerned. That is why, not resorting to any activity, I am the prime cause in the process of world-creation.

Translation of Bhagavad Gita 14.9 https://www.bhagavad-gita.us/bhagavad-gita-14-9/ :

> O son of Bharata, the mode of goodness conditions one to happiness; passion conditions one to fruitive action; and ignorance, covering one’s knowledge, binds one to madness.

Commentary by Sri Abhinavagupta of Kaula Tantra Sampradaya:

> The Sattva flourishes by overpowering the Rajas and the Tamas. But, the Rajas [flourishes by overpowering] both the Sattva and the Tamas; and the Tamas [does so by overpowering] both the Sattva and the Rajas. That has been stated : ‘The Strands augment by overpowering each other’.

>>254077

>>cannabis connect to the divine

OK stopped right there. Old boomer here smoked from 15 to 25. Smoked a fuck tonne. And I used it for some pretty creative stuff.

But frankly looking at the pot culture out there in my old home town Vancouver it's a huge mass of idiots getting gooned baked and copping a buzz.

Dropped acid hoping for that transcendance too and no it's just a chemical that simulates schizophrenia. That is it makes you temporarily mentally ill.

If you want to expand your consciousness study math and physics at the university level.

Fuck the drugs and above all else fuck the drug propagandists.

64 year old ex Vancouverite born and raised and you know I just HATE Vancouver and everything in it. It could have been awesome; WAC Bennet was one of the greatest statesmen in Canadian hell in world history. But the prosperity and beauty made it a magnet for grifters bums and junkies. Look at the pic; there they are and what a massive crowd of anti intellectual, low level hedonistic fuck wagons they all are.

>>255685

> allies

It has been strange, during these times of government authoritarianism, watching myself become seemingly somewhat allied with organized religionists, who I have been at odds with my entire life. Not all of them, mind you! Just the ones who have not gone full-on retard for Nanny State Authoritarianism. And only "somewhat"; because organized religionists just cannot seem to see that all this shit was started by Organized Religion! Yes, this new "Woke" Religion is even more pernicious than any of the pudgy feel-good slave-religions that this one proposes to push out; butall organized religion tends toward establishing control over collectives rather than providing a framework for assisting individuals in expressing their "divine" nature with authenticity, integrity, self-control and responsibility.

Still, in these times where liberty is being stripped away, and even more trampling of freedom is being planned by the powers-that-be, one takes allies where one can, and one trusts them as well as one can. Trust is a scarce commodity these days. One wrong word even…

This divisiveness being pushed by COVID Fear-Porn Fuckheads and "Woke"aholics alike has fractured the relationships between family and friends everywhere. I suddenly find myself unable to even speak with some folks, while others, who I rarely spoke to at all before I feel more in common with now, at least about all this craziness! But they're still hopped-up Christards, and that hasn't changed!

Now that I've rambled it all away, my point is that I agree with OP. These organized religionists will never treat a spiritual path that does not conform to their ideology with any modicum of respect; any more than these screaming purple-haired banshees of the "Woke" Mob will tolerate free-thought or free exchange of ideas. They never have. We're pretty much all alone in this. Either get with a group of Conformists or remain Outside the Pale. Luckily, my kind has spent a lifetime there, and we are more home there than anywhere. Organized Religionists and Conformity Enforcers of every kind have made sure of that!

But mark my words, just because my kind has been easily driven beyond the pale for millennia, there comes a time when the draconian assaults on freedom become too much. I won't mince words here, and I'll be specific…

If anyone tries to forcibly inject any substance into my body against my will I will forcibly inject a bullet into theirs.

If stores impose vaccine mandates and refuse entry without showing proof of vaccination I will take what I need to take care of my family at gunpoint from wherever I can.I am not alone.Society will implode. (((They))) know this. Keep that in mind.

No matter how this all turns out, having a good Spiritual Compass will be of enormous value.

From my experience, most organized religionists generally conform; and the path of conformity will not be the path that most with a spiritual compass will be taking in the immediate times to come.

There is one thing that the Religionists, including "Woke"sters, have in common — their overwhelming fear of death. Their fear of death makes them easy to control and takes the very life out of their living! Every waking moment of life is lived in constant fear of Death! How sad! And how unnecessary too. Protip:You're Gonna Die. There Is No Escape. It's the Price of Living. While, Here, However, You CAN Choose to LIVE!You do not have to live your life in fear. That is the great truth of Spirituality, that Religion always seems to miss (because, at its heart, organized religion is actually about social control.)

>>256053

lol

You sound mad — as usual. You actually sound pretty miserable too. I hope you find some meaning somewhere. You may be looking in the wrong place. I am sure that shitposting and tearing at others makes you feel good on some level, but it barely scratches the surface of your deeper needs. I know. I've been there. As for superiority of messages, yours seems too caustic to claim any kind of superiority anywhere, and I never claimed any at all.

I hope you find what you're looking for, or are you one of those who thinks they already know everything and everyone else is just fuckerdumb?

>>256059

(You)'re not worth more of my time today.

Find what sustains you where you may.

I left more than enough scraps for you to find your own way to more bountiful harvests.

I'm sure you and Neptune can console each other in your misery.

Those who continue to contribute to keeping us all at each other's throats are not on the same side of this global spiritual conflict as I am on.

>>256075

I think you misunderstand. We are probably closer than you think to holding similar views, minus the whole hatred consuming every part of who you are thing. I used to be exactly like that, thinking that hate was at the core of my being, but I digress… I usually do…

The fact is that I agree with you about the false dichotomy.

I also, however, think that it is your constant stance of divisiveness and hate that does (((their))) job for them! And you can't even see that! Religionists usually can't. They're too busy attacking all "Else", like I already so eloquently stated.

>>256075

It must be exhausting, yet exceedingly simplistic, to make everything fit within the ideology of "Everything I don't like is Jewish."

To everyone else, it's just boringly predictable and repetitive. And you kinda lose the effectiveness of your arguments because everyone just tunes it all out, because you can't see the world through any other lens, and you make no effort to, so why should anyone else make an effort to see some of the obvious truths you wish they could see the way you can?! I mean, seriously! When I said I respect your knowledge and viewpoints, I was not schmoozing you. It's just the delivery and stance that could use some work (from my perspective)! Kinda like Killcen; only your stance is far more caustic, miserable and seemingly unhappy. But we are all changing beings, and there are plenty of opportunities to expand one's horizons and embrace the unknown with confidence and overflowing joy. These times are no different. Although "The Way" might be treacherous and difficult, remaining in the "Slough of Despond" is no real option, nor will one find any real solace in poisonously slashing at those whose only crime is non-conformity, and exhibiting characteristics that one hates in oneself.

You see, hatred is a funny thing.

It stems from a place of Self-Loathing.

That is why it always turns back on itself.

The only "Cure" is toLook WITHIN.

The sooner, the better.

"Out There" is not where all the problems are, and that's not where any of the solutions are either.Look WITHIN."Know Thyself."

Slashing at the "Other" only shows a measure of one's frustration. It does nothing for one's focus or one's attentiveness, nor does it attract anyone "else" to that viewpoint.

>>256100

During the "break" my gf and I watched the movie "Free Guy", and I recommend it. For Hollywood, it's half-ass deep. It also seemed to agree with my earlier assertions that this is all play, verb, and it's only a game if you want it to be, and you certainly don't have to play (((their)))'s!

You are allowed to have FUN too!

>>256220

I wonder what part of

> "having their own family to take care of"

(You) did not understand?

As for having

> a solid argument against "jews"…

Just saying the Joos are behind everything you don't like is not a solid argument for anything except the very point I made here: >>256096 that (You) were supposedly somehow "rebutting".

It's OK. You can go commiserate with Johnny Neptune. He doesn't appreciate my philosophizing either, and reacts in a similarly toxic manner. He just gets pissed off about different aspects of what I say than you do. In fact, I have noticed quite a few parallels between those who express hatred, no matter where they are coming from, which axes they are grinding, or who they are directing their energies against. Haters all seem quite similar in nature, and they don't seem happy, at fucking all. I could be wrong, but that is my impression, as a former hater. They don't seem to grok the concept of ACCEPTANCE either, and the great Freedom that provides. I know I didn't.

Valuing Authenticity means that we need to support the right of everyone to be a fuckup and not see things clearly, including ourselves. We need to cultivate more humility, rather than promoting righteous indignation or moral superiority. There's Responsibility involved in growing up too. Before I became a parent, the height of my ambition was to fight Authority. When I had to put on the hat of Authority myself it became self-evident that I had much work to do on my own maturation, and that a complete overhaul of my worldview was in order.

Not to change the subject, but I'm not…

You see, that whole Joos this, Joos that thang you've got goin' on there is actually about some groups of people thinking that the collective mass of "society" should be treated like children or livestock, because some elite few know better than them, are better than them, and should be in the position of ultimate authority over them. The spiritual person sees that whole stance is a crock of shit and does not cultivate the divinity within each individual, but merely sets up a system of social and economic controls, also focusing on controlling behaviors, thoughts, emotions, ideologies, you name it, (((they))) wanna control it… because (((they))) know that we are ALL Creating Reality, so (((they))) wanna control how (You) Create! And they're doing a fantastic job. You see, the more they treat us like children, the more we act like it, and the more they can rationalize their stance of lordship over all "Others". But this stance is not peculiar to (((them))). It can be found WITHIN, if one pays attention and looks honestly, one will find one's own "Responsibility" in everything being the way it is for us. The whole "I'm Better Than…" Stance is way more popular than most people think (because most people think that it is everybody "else" who is afflicted with a worse case of it.)

> inb4 everything I said is what a Jew would say…

>>256338

Ya damn sure can't have a part in "fixing" anything if ya don't admit ya had a hand in fucking everything up!

It's not always someone else's fault.

Most "faults" lie WITHIN. In fact all of them do, but that's another story. A story where "faults" are merely a lack of perspective.

>>256053

And?

>>256449

Maybe you should define your terms first.

What the fuck is a "Jew" anyway?

But you're right. I won't answer the question because it not only has nothing to do with this thread, but the question is asinine on its face, and there is nothing I could say on the subject that you do not already have your mind made up about. It only proves that all you think about is Jews. Just like Jews. You probably are one. You sure as fuck act like it. Everything you don't like is (You). Oh wait, I already said that. You are boringly repetitive in your worldview, and there is really no conversing with you until you can talk about something besides "joos". You sound like a pathetic 14 yr old retard who just discovered 4chan. And you're a broken record. I hate to lay it out like that, but I can't imagine why you choose to go on living. You are obviously miserable as fuck. You and Johnny Neptune have nothing except tearing "others" down. I'm not trying to do the same to you, but karma begets what it begets. I would be more than happy if you decided to build someone up. Anyone. Even yourself. But you can't get there by tearing everything else down. I know that's what (((they))) taught you in public school. That, and blaming others for everything you don't like. But it isn't so.

>>256482

lol wow

> people like you

> your own tribe

You literally sound like a jew or a nigger.

Few others are so race-obsessed.

> covering for…

STFU! No one but (You) is covering for anything here. I am being forthright and honest. I have called a spade a spade and will continue to do so, even if you insist on calling it a jew. A spade is a spade is a spade. You shouldn't need me to validate your need to call every spade a jew.

NOBODY CARES that you have a hard-on for Jews.

We're kind of sick of it really.

I think I made that clear.

If you don't believe me, try going out in normie society and trying to get someone to see things from your blackpilled wannabeneonazi perspective! No wonder you can't get laid! I doubt you even try. They could have Jewish blood somewhere back in their DNA, and they might not have the same pure thoughts as you. Thoughts of Pure Hate. I kinda want to punch you, and DEFINITELY Would in real life. Not sure if it would help you, but I'd be willing to give it a go. I'd do anything to help people like you, including driving your face into the pavement until you admit that you're a sniveling little nigger jew who needs some correction by Big Daddy Authority, 'cause that's what you like! Oh no? Then why do you want to do that to others? Seriously! It's a simple question, but you won't answer it…WHAT MAKES YOU BETTER THAN OTHERS?

And if you are better, what are you gonna do about it?

Make sure they stay down so you can feel "Better Than"?

Isn't that the very thing you don't like about the Jews?

Maybe Looking WITHIN wouldn't hurt so bad after all, would it?

I mean, we could ALL use a little more of it actually.

The following post was a reply in another thread, but it belongs here too...

>>257217

> i'm christian

> of what denomination exactly?

Having no idea what the real problem with organized religion is, especially Christianity, nor how those "problems" have spilled over into society as a whole — as fucking usual.

Let me be fucking clear here, so you can grok the fucking concept. If my attitude is a bit pissy, you should know that I've spent more than half a century trying to get this concept through your thick fucking skulls, so pardon me if you don't like my attitude. I haven't liked your's for millenia. If this feels like a sledge-hammer to you, it is nothing compared with what my kind has felt. You have driven us beyond the pale, and we resent you. But we REALLY Resent when you cannot see that it is YOUR Stance that has caused, and IS Causing, ALL the fucking "problems"! Your Divisive, Us & Them Stance has ALWAYS been the fucking problem! That goes for ALL organized religion, but Christians happen to be the most insufferable cunts about it. Lordy! You should have seen how up-in-arms you got over the Protestant Reformation! I can't imagine why. Now, look at 'em!

> of what denomination exactly?

Suck my cock.

Oh? You don't like when I say that?

Well, the rest of the world never liked it when you expected them to suck yours or bend over for your divisive ideology either. How does it fucking feel? You Christians actually DESERVE these Antifa BLM SJWs! Your kind literally CREATED them. They learned EVERYTHING THEY ARE From YOU. ''"Woke"ism is just another Organized Religion to me. (And it is to everyone else too, if they're paying attention.)

t. Missionary's kid who grew up all over the world "spreading the good Christian word" (of divisiveness and hate) and having those "good Christian ways" beaten into me in every way possible.

No Spank You. I think I'll stick with finding deeper meaning on a more Spiritual Path than ANY Organized Religion, of ANY Denomination, can, or will, EVER provide.

Funny how "Woke"sters think I am allied with Christians; because from their perspective, I am. Christians, even though they are assailed on all sides, cannot drop their little Divisiveness habit though. They never can. No organized religionist can. So they separate into groups of hive-mind. New colonies will continue to form. Meanwhile, the Queen works her secret magick.

Bhrāmarī (भ्रामरी, “like a bee”)

Most Christians don't even know why the Pope's vestments depict bees.

Most Christians automatically think divisive thoughts within their minds when even thinking about the Pope, or "other" Christian denominations, or "other" ideologies, or when presented with the TRUTH, like I have done here, and, yet again, Christians will resent me for it rather thanLOOK WITHIN & FIND ACCEPTANCE.Sad, really. Jesus tried to tell 'em, but they crucified his ass for it.

> inb4 no, that was the Jews!

You fucking Christians have been crucifying his ass every moment since! And you're crucifying everyone "else" too! And still blaming the Jews too! And you haven't figured out that the word "blame" is spelled "b lame" for a fucking reason! It makes one lame. It puts a hitch in your giddyup. You're always looking around for another target; somewhere "Else" where all the "problems" lie. Some other fucking denomination maybe, unless you can all join forces to continue driving my kind beyond the pale, where this new "Woke" Religion is driving YOU (which is the only reason we feel lumped in together right now at all.) You have brought your divisive ways out here beyond the pale, where my kind has lived lifetimes, because of the likes of you.

So, that's where my attitude is with all of that, and if you don't like it, maybe you should pack your divisive ways up and trottle off back to the cities where you can burn with the rest of those who wanna make war on everything, including reality and common sense. We've had enough of your kind. The only difference we see between you and the "Woke"sters is that you are not trying to destroy culture, civilization, the family unit, or any sense of meaning. Other than that, you are EXACTLY the same. Which is why my kind has only a tentative truce with your kind. We know you'll be right back to your old ways after we help you rid the world of this "Woke" menace. You won't stop with your Divisiveness, or trying to Control "Others" EVER; and we know it. I apologize for having to lay it out there like that for you, but there you are. I'm just holding up a mirror. You don't have to look in it.

>>257279

>>257285

Actually, the following thread is kinda interesting and quite apropos also:

ANTIFA LEAK: Chat logs containing 360,000+ posts from antifa groups dropped

>>253524

Thanks for drawing attention to it.

>>257386

Yeah, but the conversation in that thread is illuminating at times…

> i dont think anyone cares about antifa or alt-right controlled opposition any more.

I hope you're right.

I think the maxim "Know Thyself; and To Thine Own Self Be True. still applies. Having a good moral compass will keep one from getting confused, and if one ever needs to reestablish one's bearings, all they need do isLook WITHIN.

Or they could let "Personas", like "Johnny Neptune" or "Everything I Don't Like Is a Jew" Guy define them!

>>257430

ok.

and you're happy to see the old worldviews crumble away, as am i.

but do you have an alternative worldview?

or would that not stay true to your blackpilled approach to life?

got anything positive to replace the old narrative definitions with?

> truth?

I don't think you know what that word means.

the "naked truth"; the good, the bad & the ugly;all of it…

i hope you're not leaving your "self" out of the equation, or thinking that you're actually on the side of "not-that"!

>>257462

I'll make you a deal.

I am confuse.

Could you please refresh my memory by defining your terms again?

What is a "fake Jew?"'

What is a "Jew"?

Please try to be specific.

If you can pull this off to my satisfaction, or point to where you already did, I will try to get Killcen to post pictures of his toaster collection, yet again, for the fifth time! It will be delicious.

Otherwise, it's like you're over here babbling nigspeak ebonics or something, because I cannot understand what the fuck you are saying.

You hold an End-of-the-Worldview, and are working toward the destruction of this world. That has always been the stance of Apocalyptic Religionists, Antifa, BLM, alt-right, alt-left, you name it… If they're Us & Themists and Apocalypticunts, they're probably on the side of just wanting everything swept away, destroyed, "fuck this world" mentality.

It's OK.

I've been there.

And back.

Can Highly RecommendLooking WITHINfor the Naked Truth.

Blaming "Others", "Out There" will only blind you to that Naked Truth, and throw a shroud over it. A Shroud of Death.

>>257474

> I hope this was enlightening

If only.

I got out of it that you think Jews are a race of people, like Spartans, Ashkenazi, or some other such shit that can't be actually defined, considering how much fucking humans seem to do outside their "own" race (to the point where none of that shit really has much meaning anyway.)

I also got out of it that you think Jewishness is a religion. OK. But even (((they))) can't agree on whatever the fuck that means, any more than Christfags can!

As for the "Messiah"... Yeah, we get it. You're looking for some magic Sky-Daddy to come "Save" you and come swooping in at the last second to whisk you away from all this tomfoolery and downright "evil". The only difference between you and the Jews is they think the "Messiah" hasn't come yet, and is still coming, and Christians think the "Messiah" has already been here and is going to come again, to get back at all their enemies yet again (I'm guessing that's how they see it anyway.)

> On the fake Jews:

> I know thy works and tribulation and poverty (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

OK. So. Rich People are "fake Jews" to you?

I am still confuse. I am also a poorfag, so...

As for those who "say they are Jews and are not", you must be referring to "Johnny Neptune".

I've never said I was a Jew.

I wish you made more sense, but you do not.

t. someone who is rarely accused of "making sense".

>>258219

People don't like being told where and how they must find every sense of meaning in life.

This never ends well, when one ideology is pushed upon all "others".

Especially when it is an Ideology of Fear or Blame.

Letting Fear be your Primary Guide is ALWAYS a Sign of Insanity.

Fear-filled folks are dangerous as fuck, and will be treated as such.

>>259660

> Why didn't you let soul or spirit speak for themselves?

assumes they didn't, or aren't, or that the terms "souls", or "spirits" have anything but relative meaning; and as such, the terms need to be better defined before asking such questions.

>Or, if they are something unable to perform that task, could you tell us what part of us could sense soul or spirit?

assumes that we are made up of parts and parcels; yet even if we were, those terms "soul", and "spirit" would, again, need to be better defined (and I'm sure it can't be done without lapsing into some kind of religionist perspective based on beliefs and ideologies. In other words, the terms themselves actually denote an attachment to a belief system, which is not an open-minded stance, where one is actually willing to learn something, so answering a question posed from that stance is somewhat a waste of time.

>Don't tell me soulless people can't have that part to sense soul because if you say so you don't think soul exists.

You presume to demand what "others" may tell you, or that you know the meaning of their words, or that you know what they think?

Hmmm… Interdasting.

Why didn't you let soul or spirit speak for themselves?

>>281874

MOD, I am Disappoint.

🦀 Crab PDF 🦀

Religion always looks to the Priests, the "Specialists" in so-called "Spiritual" matters, and is concerned with Social Behavioral Control; while "Spirituality" (for lack of a better term"'') is more concerned with the Personal Seeking, the Individual Approaches to Meaning, and the Frameworks we personally build up to hang meaning on.

Canned Answers don't work well when it comes to Spirituality or Politics.

But the canneries are busy churning out canned meaning all frickin' day, and folks keep lining up for jobs at the cannery…

As it ever was…

> Dying Daily

http://www.thepresenceprocessportal.com/resources/Experiencing%20Death%20Daily.htm

No need to Join the Crowd.

Death is a Solitary experience.

You might want to Practice it on the regular.

Of course, there are different ways to Practice Death & Dying!

Some live like the "Undead" for most of their lives.

Some never mature enough in their approach to recognize the experience for what it is. Some don't even want to.

Discovering what your True Will is, and DOING That is all you're really here for anyway…

So, get on it!

Plenty of ways to practice both living and dying! Find the ways that are most effective for what it is you're trying to achieve. Do you even know what that is? If not, you may want toLOOK WITHIN. Even if you already have a plan of action and are focusing on implementing that plan of action, it would behoove you to remember that there's nothing one may focus on "Out There". It just plain ain't. As in,There Ain't NO "Out There" Out There!

ALL May Be Found WITHIN.

That's the only only place "you" can interact with "Others" anyway — or any"thing" "else" either, for that matter.

Subject and Object become null and moot, like waves and troughs of a constantly collapsing reality wave that line up and juxtapose in the Act of Witnessing.

Yes, the Center is EVERYWHERE, butTHERE IS NO ONE.

No "One" to Lord it Over All the "Others".

No "One" that is Better Than an "Other".

No "Other" Either.

Get used to Non-Duality.It's What IS.

Don't like paradox? Don't like not being able to fit everything into the particularly limited box of self-chosen and contrived meaning that you have crafted from the frameworks of meaning that were provided for you, oftentimes by Slavers?

Well, WHO IS RESTRICTING YOU, REALLY???

And WHO ARE YOU???

Inquiring Minds Want to KNOW!!!

Are "You" an "Inquiring Mind?"

Or are you too busy painting over the Naked TRUTH?

WHO Are You Trying to Convince?

Of What?

Why?

Inquiring Minds Want to KNOW!!!

>>318386

"Thinging" really is a problem. The only "problem, really!

Why is there something instead of nothing?

https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/821/why-is-there-something-instead-of-nothing

(a good discussion was had…)

Before anything else one should be aware of the instrument used to answer questions. That instrument is human language. While there is no guarantee that such a system of patterns is powerful and expressive enough to reason about the necessity of all that is, we can still examine what can we reasonably say and understand about this.

Let us begin by finding out the difference between Something and Nothing.

Obviously they are opposites - first word denotes the present state of affairs of all that is and the other one its negation. We can be fairly confident that right now Something is and Nothing is not.

So why is it this way? Could there be Nothing instead of Something? Turns out the answer is surprisingly simple and straightforward: if Nothing could be, then it would inevitably be Something - giving us a contradiction with our initial premises, thus demonstrating that Nothing cannot be.

In other words, there is Something because it cannot be otherwise - it is an inevitability that arises from the complete, utter and total incapacity of Nothing to exist as such.

In short:Something is because Nothing is not.

Or to quote "The Way Of Truth" by Parmenides:

> For never shall this prevail, that things that are not are.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/parmenides/

This is not circular reasoning. Some miss the point that we reason only through language which is a limited system of rules. Breaking a rule results in error.

The above question makes the error of assuming that non-being can be. It is self-contradictory. In the same way one can ask why is there no darkness in light or why is there no silence in sound.

Apparently you presume that if there is a word ("nothing"), then it must have an object, i.e. a correspondence with something beyond your own imagination. Not true!

Nothing is the opposite of Something, it does not and can not be.

>>318386

> the Naked TRUTH

=What is the difference between Fact and Truth?

https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8053/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-truth

(a good discussion was had…)

I'm curious about the difference between Fact and Truth. I was searching on the internet if I could find it. But still I'm confused about the exact meaning.

I first read the forum discussion here Fact and Truth where an author has given two examples for each like below:

> A fact is a reality that cannot be logically disputed or rejected. If I say "fire is hot," I don't care how great your reasoning skills are, if you touch fire your skin will burn (and don't give me that "but people can walk on hot coals!" bull. There's a difference between the transfer of heat through conduction and training one's body to deal with the agonizing pain of said conduction). Now when I say this, I am not speaking a truth, I am speaking a fact. If you say "fire is not hot," you are not lying, you are incorrect. Facts are concrete realities that no amount of reasoning will change. When one acknowledges a fact, they are doing just that. Facts are not discovered, facts are not created, facts are simply acknowledged.

> A truth on the other hand, is almost the opposite. Truths are those things that are not simply acknowledged, but must be discovered, or created. If I say "God exists," and I possess strong reasoning for the affirmative of that statement, then God really does exist, that is a reality. However, if another individual possesses strong reasoning for the negative, and because of this reasoning they believe that God does not exist, then that is also a reality. If we were to debate our ideologies, and my reasoning appeared stronger than theirs, they may choose to adopt my belief that God does exist. If they do, then the existence of God is just as true as the nonexistence of God which they believed a week ago. Truths, as opposed to fact, are much more fluid and malleable than their empirical counterparts.

There was also this:

> Facts are notes and lyrics on sheet music. Truth is what the singer gives to the listener when she’s brave enough to open up and sing from her heart.

The quote about facts gets it pretty right. A fact is, for many philosophers, a part of reality (Russel, for example). So as there are people and tables and chairs in our world, there is also the fact that I am sitting on the chair. It is as real as the chair itself. You often see some kind of brackets when someone speaks about fact, so for example: <I am sitting on a chair> converts to "The fact that I am sitting on a chair".

Truth is a property of sentences, propositions, utterances, whatever you like. Facts can therefore not be true, in the same way as a chair cannot be true. Stating a fact, however, and depending on your opinion, has a truthvalue.

I think the second quote about truth is a bit problematic though. It sounds as if good arguments alter reality. But arguments cannot be true, they can be valid, and they can be truthconserving. So if I have an argument for the existence of god, it is at best valid. That does not mean, however, that suddenly, in virtue of the good argument, god came into existence.

So on one common view those things that can be true are propositions. So a meaningful expression would be: The proposition that snow is white is true.

If you believe that sentences are the things that can be true, then this would be an example: The sentence "Grass is green" is true.

Most people believe that facts cannot be true: They think that "(The fact that grass is green) is true" is a weird thing to say. (I use brackets to make clear that the predicate "is true" refers to the fact. Because otherwise there could be a second reading about the (fact that grass is green is true), if there is such a fact)

To conclude: (i) There is the fact that grass is green, and (ii) the proposition that grass is green is true.

Also it is worth pointing out that there are philosophers who say that there are no facts, because facts are weird ontological things and maybe you can do without them. So this is just one way to answer this question…

And, while you weren't paying attention, Spirituality was "Canceled" and replaced with Ideology.

And since so many fell for the hoodwink of the Beneficence of Centralized Control, and the necessity for Centralized Banking, the hat-trick will be pulled yet again, and employed for tightening Centralized Controls even further, over every aspect of everyone's lives, from womb to tomb.

CASHLESS SOCIETY IS HERE! - Globalists Call For An END To Cash! - Great Reset & Social Credit System

https://odysee.com/@WAM:0/cashlesssocietyishereglobalistscallforanendtocashwam:2?r=3HAVjMBvyKSgwHLhjGvMppszTGc91HNB

This is what happens when so many are are not only willing to trade spirituality for ideology, but are willing to let their entire lives be controlled by those they see as their superiors, and by the frivolous pursuits that are offered like pretty baubles to keep the majority from even desiring more than the crumbs they are given by their "beneficent" masters, even though they see themselves as undeserving and "less than", because they know they have allowed themselves to be — less than who they ARE. Less than who they could be, if they'd just set down the magic centralized-control device for a few hours a day, and focused on finding out who they are, and being that, doing that —Being AUTHENTIC.

But no, there will always be another emergent reason to accept ever more restrictions on your authenticity from Big Government Centralized Control, which most people recognize as better-than them — "specialists" — easier to just Conform, and Do What They Say, amirite?

>>350754

DO NOT SPEAK TO WITCHES UNTIL YOU KNOW IF THEY ARE GOOD OR BAD WITCHES! JESUS BALLS MAN! YOU'LL GET US ALL KILLED!

> Post Copied From…

>>>/freedomzine/38975

Because it also belongs in this thread.

> inb4 all the hate

> inb4 all the Nopes and Uh Uhhs

> inb4 Satan

-

>>>/freedomzine/12157

“The freedom from something is not true freedom. The freedom to do anything you want to do is also not the freedom I am talking about.

“My vision of freedom is to be yourself.

“It is not a question of getting freedom from something. That freedom will not be freedom, because it is still given to you; there is a cause to it. The thing that you were feeling dependent on is still there in your freedom. You are obliged to it. Without it you would not have been free.

“The freedom to do anything you want is not freedom either, because wanting, desiring to do something, arises out of the mind – and mind is your bondage.

“The true freedom certainly comes after choiceless awareness, but after choiceless awareness the freedom is neither dependent on things nor dependent on doing something. The freedom that follows choiceless awareness is the freedom just to be yourself. And you are yourself already, you are born with it; hence it is not dependent on anything else. Nobody can give it to you and nobody can take it from you. A sword can cut your head but it cannot cut your freedom, your being.

“It is another way of saying that you are centered, rooted in your natural, existential self. It has nothing to do with outside.

“Freedom from things is dependent on the outside. Freedom to do something is also dependent on the outside. Freedom to be ultimately pure has not to be dependent on anything outside you.

“You are born as freedom. It is just that you have been conditioned to forget it. Layers upon layers of conditionings have made you a puppet. The strings are in somebody else’s hands.

“If you are a Christian, you are a puppet. Your strings are in the hand of a God which does not exist, so just to give you the sense that God exists there are prophets, messiahs, representing God. They represent nobody. They are just egoistic people – and even ego wants to reduce you to a puppet.

“They tell you what to do, they give you the Ten Commandments. They give you your personality – that you are a Christian, a Jew, a Hindu, a Mohammedan. They give you your so-called knowledge. And naturally, under the great burden which they start giving you from the very beginning of your childhood, the Himalayan load you are carrying – underneath it, hidden, repressed, is your natural self.

“If you can get rid of all conditionings, if you can think that you are neither a communist nor a fascist, that you are neither a Christian nor a Mohammedan. You were not born a Christian or Mohammedan; you were born just pure, innocent consciousness.

“To be again in that purity, in that innocence, in that consciousness, is what I mean be freedom.

“Freedom is the ultimate experience of life. There is nothing higher than that. And out of freedom many flowers blossom in you.

“Love is the flowering of your freedom.

“Compassion, another flowering of your freedom.

“All that is valuable in life flowers in the innocent, natural state of your being.

“So don’t connect freedom with independence. Independence is naturally from something, from somebody. Don’t connect freedom with doing things that you want to do, because that is your mind, not you. Wanting to do something, desiring to do something, you are in the bondage of your wanting and your desiring.

“But the freedom I have been talking about you simply are – in utter silence, serenity, beauty, bliss.”

― Osho, From Death to Deathlessness, Talk #23

>>366144

>>369866

The first clue to the TRUTH of this post should be the difference between "spiritual practices" and "religious observances".

In spiritual practices one erases the distinction between subject & object.

Religions object and objectify, subject and subjectify, dominate and submit, divide and conquer.

Spirituality IS, and Accepts what IS.

What IS is LOVE.

One admits it's not always pretty, or enjoyable, but one may Practice "Making Love".

Love is Verb — Action.

There is naught that which has not been wraught by Love.

Love is Boundless and Encompasses All.

There Is No Escape — so seeking escape is a losing proposition.

There is no Dominion greater than Love, and All who seek to Dominate shall be swallowed up in Love's embrace, both in life and in death.

"Persona" is a cheap magical trick — an Illusion. The Ego cannot compete with what Love IS, nor can "Identity".

Identify as Loveand all power shall be granted, all ecstacy and joy shall be experienced forevermore.

Time & Space Are Illusions, but do not be mistaken into thinking they are not as REAL as Real IS, lest ye fall into the trappings of nihilism and hedonism.

Do Not Confuse "Non-Duality" With "Solipsism"(which is just another "ism".)

>>369866

>>369867

Relevant Links:

<https://symbolsage.com/rati-hindu-goddess/>

<https://www.bonobology.com/story-of-kama-and-rati-reveals-indias-forgotten-celebration-of-love/>

<https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Goddess-Chinnamasta-always-depicted-trampling-Kamdev-and-Rati?share=1>

<http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/age_kali.htm>

And No, Tantra, is NOT a Religion, nor is it Hinduism. It is a Practice of Spirituality.

There are far better links, but those will work fine for those who seek, and for the profane.

>>369869

Oops! Forgot to remove the<and the>from those links…

(I pretty much think in Markdown.)

Here:

https://symbolsage.com/rati-hindu-goddess/

https://www.bonobology.com/story-of-kama-and-rati-reveals-indias-forgotten-celebration-of-love/

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Goddess-Chinnamasta-always-depicted-trampling-Kamdev-and-Rati?share=1

http://www.greatdreams.com/sacred/age_kali.htm

More thoughts along these lines may be found in this entire thread: >>>/freedomzine/17394

> inb4 Jewny Neptroon calls that which he cannot innerstand "word circles"…