/pnd/ - Politics, News, Debate

>>168540

Well, let's see …

The "right" encourages people to arm up and go shoot people.

The "left" encourages people to kneel for flags and drink soy.

It's up to you which is more "radical".

>>168540

1. We’re not “the right.”

2. We don’t do anything at all. We literally do nothing, ever. List one fucking thing we’ve ever done–never mind something “radical” even by jewish standards.

>>168542

This is a paid shill and publicly admitted communist who spams every single thread on the site. Ignore everything said by this ID in this thread.

>>168544

Id say the kneeling and soy and burning down your community is the radical side.

>>168544

Thats kind of sad that you say this group does nothing…..I am not a part of this group, mine is on telegram and we do a lot, legally and politically what we dont do is burn down out cities and sit on our hands as out country falls apart. You guys should try to organised something, even something little just to get your ideas out and have discourse (Not "shoot people up" as the idiot said, we have guns, i have guns and plan to never use them unless I HAVE too. If we want to go that way you could always argue the left kills babies'

>>168544

I would just like the video to have more down votes, hopefully that happens because a lot of it is just flat out wrong.

>>168547

Of course.

>>168548

>we do a lot, legally

And how has that been working out for you? Do tell.

>unless I have to

Your people are literally being slaughtered in the streets. Your history rewritten. Your buildings razed to the ground. Your nations destroyed. You do absolutely fucking nothing about this, and neither does anyone else. You will NEVER use your firearms. They’re worthless.

>>168549

>wrong

Not your personal army. Truth doesn’t exist anymore. We sure as shit don’t defend it, and they don’t believe it exists, so why bother caring what some faggot on YouTube–who you will never kill or punish in any way, shape, or form–says about you or any other group?

These are real questions. I’d love answers.

>>168550

Ah yea so I should just go out and start shooting random people who have never put me under threat, yea go do THAT and see how it works out.

>>168550

"Not your personal army. Truth doesn’t exist anymore. We sure as shit don’t defend it, and they don’t believe it exists, so why bother caring what some faggot on YouTube–who you will never kill or punish in any way, shape, or form–says about you or any other group?

These are real questions. I’d love answers."

Simple, it brings me happiness and your doing SOMETHING unlike a lot of other people as little and petty as it is.

>>168551

This is the point he's making.

and as for "using" my firearm, I have plenty but not on my countries civilians. Have you done anything besides slide? Sit on hands? Even passing out booklets is something but im sure thats just to much for you since you are already defeated'

>>168550

Violence is a last resort, sure if my house or business or city was being burned I would have to probably use my firearm on a civilian to stop or at least try to stop the destruction of my property but violence should always be very last resort. Discourse and grass roots movements are what should be focused on for the moment not acts of violence unless you just want to be labeled a "nazi" and thrown in jail and forgot about.

>>168551

>strawman

>reductio ad absurdum fallacy

Yeah, see, THIS is why you’ve already lost. You can’t even hold a discussion. You can’t reply to what was said. You refuse to even entertain the idea that truth is something which would hurt your feelings or that it’s currently something you might not want. You panic at the mere IDEA of something you don’t like, so you can’t even talk about it, much less do anything about it. Run the fuck along. This is a place for truth.

>>168553

>it brings me happiness

Feel free to make your own sockpuppets to downvote him, then. Those thumbsy downies are totally going to save the white race, right?

>your doing SOMETHING

Keep believing that thumbsy downies is “doing something,” communist. Feel free to believe that. On any other website but here.

>>168555

>I have plenty but

But don’t use them. I’ll repeat:

Your people are literally being slaughtered in the streets. Your history rewritten. Your buildings razed to the ground. Your nations physically destroyed. You do absolutely fucking nothing about this, and neither does anyone else.

Your bullshit boomer brainwashing platitude of “DURR NOT ON MY PROPER TEA” is the reason that white genocide is already complete. The time to use firearms was decades ago. No one did it. You fundamentally don’t even understand WHY YOUR MINDSET IS BAD AND WRONG, and so you can’t possibly win now.

>>168556

>Violence is a last resort

Your people are literally being slaughtered in the streets. Your history rewritten. Your buildings razed to the ground. Your nations physically destroyed.Explain how this is not the time for a last resort.Because you clearly believe it isn’t.

>sure if my house

NOT ON MY PROPER TEEEEEEEEEEEEEA

>Discourse

Your speech is instantaneously censored, everywhere. You can have no discourse.

>and grass roots movements

Your movements are broken up by feds, the ringleaders arrested, their accounts seized by banks. Their funding pulled. You can have no grassroots movements.

What’s your next move.

>>168557

Lol yea im scared of the truth.The white race is dying, whats new? Nothing scary about that, what scary is your attitude of defeat.

And them are not my buildings or towns, why would I want to defend them? You say we are defeated, I say there is a chance. Sorry you lost your fighting spirit man….hopefully one day it will return.

Just filter c029ff

>>168560

Doesn't help bring back the spirit to fight but do as you wish, it is a free country and board.

>>168544

This is a power-tripping Vol who stalks users he doesn't like in every thread and never contributes anything whatsoever. Don't filter or ignore him. Pay very, very close attention to him so you can see the state of this board.

>>168558

>Nothing scary about that

Not sure you belong here, then.

>what scary is your attitude of defeat.

Or you could provide a single answer to a single question you were asked. Or you could provide evidence that my statements are in any way incorrect. Or you could, you know, hold an actual conversation–citations, facts, evidence, proof. For fuck’s sake. 'Your feelings don’t matter.’

>>168559

>And them are not my buildings or towns, why would I want to defend them?

And that’s why you’ve already lost. You’re too stupid to comprehend how society works.

>You say we are defeated, I say there is a chance.

You have no evidence for your claim, whereas the last 70 years prove my statements. Do you have anything to add, or is this just yet another worthless boomer propaganda thread?

>>168563

>communists allowed to post here

>anyone allowed to say anything, regardless of factuality, quality, or purpose

<somehow still ass blasted about attention being drawn to his own beliefs and positions–which he has publicly stated and doesn’t deny

I mean… you’ve made my argument for me. You’re whining about the state of the board, and it’s only like this because people like you are allowed to post here without ever being punished in any way, so yes! Please listen to this specific line from the admitted communist who spams every thread:

>so you can see the state of this board

Because he’s right; the board is shit because he and his ilk are allowed to post here.

>>168565

Your entire mission is to destroy my anonymity by pointing it out whenever I post in any thread, even though IDs do not carry, and often refer to me by my IP hash.

And you call ME "ass blasted"?I fucking OWN you, little bitch. Cope. If I want to have normal discussions, I use VPNs and giggle my ass off as you agree with me and have civil conversations. Then I turn it off and post on this IP and watch you melt down like a nigger with a rape case. I … own … you.

>>168566

>I own you

I don’t understand why you’re upset about people being told that you support communism, since you publicly state it yourself. Shouldn’t you be happy that your ideology is getting more exposure? Instead you’re screaming like an autistic child whose face paint didn’t make him invisible. Hmm.

>I use VPNs

Ah, so you admit to consensus crafting, then. Just like a paid shill does. Very interesting.

>>168567

>since you publicly state it yourself

I "publicly" (as public as any individual thread on this board can be) stated it within a thread and within the context of that thread because I was contributing to the conversation. I'm not mad about it. I find it sad and hilarious that you've become such a pathetic little stalker. It's like having a fan girl.

>consensus cracking

Nigger, there are 20 people on this board and I'm 18 of them. Welcome to your personal fucking Hell. You will NEVER know if you're talking to me or not, but I will always know when it's you because you literally cannot help yourself.

>>168567

>jannie doesn't like VPNs

>site admin encourages use of VPNs

no wonder this board is dead

>>168572

Who said I don’t like ‘em? I use one myself. They should be used for the sake of security. I’m just teasing the autistic communist who gets ass blasted that his spam and lies aren’t accepted.

>>168576

Name one thing in >>168542 that post which is a "lie". I'm annoyed that a Vol is abusing his power, yes, but I can live with it and work around it. You, my friend, are completely jimmy rustled at my very existence and I can feel you shaking with rage that you cannot get rid of me.

>>168576

>They should be used for the sake of security.

There is no security when a mod can follow a poster from thread to thread. The whole purpose of an IB/chan is that we can post whatever we want and move on to another thread without our posts in the previous thread being used against us. It's the whole reason most boards have the rule that the mod staff will be removed if they do exactly what you're doing. As far as I know this board has no codified rules for mods, so whatever, but what you're doing every time the commie posts is against the spirit and intent of the chan system and you should be removed for it.

>>168581

>Name one thing in that post which is a "lie".

Sure.

>The "right" encourages people to arm up and go shoot people.

Demonstrably false. Every attempt to get whites to fight back is instantly met with cries of “jew” “shill” and “fed.” No one calls for anything to happen, nor encourages it to happen from others. We actively refute anyone who says that shit. Clearly it’s not true.

> I'm annoyed that a Vol is abusing his power

By… letting you keep posting? By promoting your message?

>You, my friend, are completely jimmy rustled at my very existence and I can feel you shaking with rage that you cannot get rid of me.

Which is why you’re the one whining about being recognized?

>>168582

>what you're doing every time the commie posts is against the spirit and intent of the chan system

So you’re perfectly fine with any amount of spam being posted here at any time, without rebuttal or refutation?

>>168583

>Demonstrably false

So, the "right" doesn't form militias? The "right" doesn't hold armed protests? The "right" doesn't encourage the NRA? The "right" doesn't plot to kidnap governors? I don't mean on this board. I mean in general. You're telling me that what people call "the right" doesn't do ANY of those things?

>By promoting your message?

You're not promoting anything. You're telling people to ignore me and you derail every thread you're in to do so when you could have just not said anything at all; but you've never contributed anything to any thread at any time anywhere on this board. Ask me how I know.

>whining about being recognized

If I wanted to be recognized, I'd use avatars or signatures or tripcodes. It's not your job to point out when a poster from another thread has entered a new thread. THAT is abuse of mod power.

>So you’re perfectly fine with any amount of spam being posted here at any time, without rebuttal or refutation?

And you clearly didn't read the post before you replied. You came into this thread to "refute" something that wasn't even posted in this thread, but rather to bring up something that was posted months ago in a long deleted thread because you're a fucking child.

>>168583

>So you’re perfectly fine with any amount of spam being posted here at any time

No, but I'd rather have all spam all the time that I can filter, hide, and ignore than have a mod who follows users from thread to thread and calls them out on posts they've made in the past. The whole point here is that we don't have post histories. I should be able to post in a thread about how I like to shove giant black dildoes up my ass while watching lesbian scat porn and not have some mod point out that I posted it every time I try to post somewhere else. That is literally the whole point of this system, that we are free to be as stupid as we want in one thread and then move on to other threads and have regular discussion and then move on to another thread and call someone a nigger faggot and, sorry bro, never be held to task for it. It's the idea known as "attack the argument, not the poster". If I go into a thread about car repair, for example, I should be able to talk about engine idle settings without you showing up and saying, "ignore this guy, he likes to shove dildoes up his ass".

Do you understand what I'm saying?

>>168585

>so the right doesn’t

No, the right doesn’t. Literally nothing you said has anything to do with anything we represented, nor what anyone associated with us has done. First you publicly support communism, then you claim the jewish narrative about chinkflu is actually real, then you claim that Biden did nothing wrong, and now you’re repeating yet another lie–that anyone who the ZOG claims wanted to kidnap that governor was right-wing. We’ve seen their social media accounts. They were literally pro-nigger communists. You represent nothing factual whatsoever. Your very existence is a lie. You’re incapable of telling the truth.

>you’re not promoting anything

So there goes your claim that “the right” is radical, doesn’t it?

>you’ve never contributed anything

I believe you. You’re a trustworthy fellow. Certainly what you’re saying is a true statement. Absolutely no chance of it being a lie.

>posted months ago

>long deleted thread

You made the post two days ago. It’s still up. I’m looking at it right now. You’ve made several such posts. If you want to disavow communism, you can do it right now and I’ll eat my words. Since you clearly don’t, why don’t you go to literally any other website on the entire Internet, where your brain damage is worshipped without question? Rather than here, where you out yourself instantly, on your own, every time you post?

>>168586

>I’d rather have all spam all the time

Difference of opinion, then. I tend to remember successful societies in history not allowing such things, but I at least understand what you’re saying, even if I don’t agree with it.

>attack the argument, not the poster

What obligation do we have to retread identical arguments (read: spam posts) every single day, in every thread, posted by the same people who were proven objectively wrong the day before? That’s the crux of the issue at hand and why, ideologically, all of the places we exist get taken over by jewish shills. We refuse to defend our positions, and so they’re drowned in lies. We refuse to defend our homelands, and so they’re drowned in nonwhites. We refuse to defend our cultures, and so they’re negrified. Passive resistance has never worked, ever.

And yes, if there was a known faggot trying to infiltrate a society of sane people, I would absolutely state publicly, “Oh, by the way, this guy is a faggot, is clinically mentally ill, is riddled with disease, statistically wants to sexually harm your children, and is a major threat to the physical and psychological health of the community” while pointing to the person. I would absolutely not allow him to hide behind lies and honeyed words.

>>168593

>you publicly support communism

You keep saying that, but it's a lie. I have never, ever PUBLICLY supported communism. All you are is a pedantic contrarian who has never contributed anything to this board and should be removed.

>You made the post two days ago.

No,I didn't, and you're a liar. I'm done with you.

>>168593

>why don’t you go to literally any other website on the entire Internet

Why don't you? Then you wouldn't have to put up with all the communists and faggots and niggers that you're "required" to allow here.

>So there goes your claim that “the right” is radical, doesn’t it?

In his defense, he's been putting "right" and "left" in quotes, which implies a very specific thing in the English language. There's a vague subtlety involved to it, but there is a clear delineation between your definition of "the right" and societies definition of "the right". The only place your definition applies is on this board, but has no bearing whatsoever in the actual world. "The right" and "right wingers" are the ones who are carrying rifles to protests and plotting to kidnap governors and overthrow the government. I'm pretty sure it's not the soy guzzling, man-bun wearing "left wing" hippies doing it.

>What obligation do we have to retread identical arguments (read: spam posts) every single day, in every thread, posted by the same people who were proven objectively wrong the day before?

None whatsoever, but I don't recall seeing this thread on the board at any time in recent history.

What you are doing is what happens to people when they have to sign in using an account. Every word, every post, every thing said using that account is archived and available at a moment's notice to people and can be used against them in a debate. You're taking a completely unrelated topic and singling out a single poster because you don't like them. Frankly, I don't give a shit if anyone here is a communist. If they start preaching communism, then I will argue against them; but that's not what happened here. What happened here was you jumping in like some great white knight to "save us" from the big bad evil communist. I really don't need you to do that. If I wanted someone to protect me from randos, I'd go to reddit or gab or something so I could block a whole account instead of filtering an ID.

Your job is to remove illegal content, maintain generals to keep them on topic, and remove obvious spam like advertisements or post flooding. I will decide if I don't like what a poster is saying. I don't need your protection.

>>168593

>>168597

Obvious samefag is obvious. Stop trying to up your PPH. Nobody gives a shit about this board.

>>168597

>I have never, ever PUBLICLY supported communism

I’m looking right at the post. You know I am; you’ve said so already. It’s just pathetic at this point.

>I'm done with you.

Is that a promise?

>>168599

>Why don't you?

lol, you don’t even remotely comprehend what was said.

>Then you wouldn't have to put up with all the communists and faggots and niggers

Oh, so literally no other website on the Internet has those things? All of them ban them? That’s what you’re saying, so you’re going to have to prove that.

>“required"

You don’t have to put it in quotes; it’s a directive from the site owner himself.

>The only place your definition applies is on this board, but has no bearing whatsoever in the actual world.

This is the thing with which we take issue–the abandonment of objectivity by the world. No bearing? That’s a lie. But discourse pretends it doesn’t exist, that’s for damn sure.

>"The right" and "right wingers" are the ones who are carrying rifles to protests and plotting to kidnap governors and overthrow the government.

Oh, how interesting, (1); you’re repeating exactly the same lie that the admitted communist said, in exactly the same way. That’s very, very interesting.

>None whatsoever

Interesting. And yet you claim to hold a viewpoint opposed to mine.

>because you don't like them

False. Done because it’s a communist and posts proven lies in every thread, knowingly, sometimes just to get a rise. You’re fine with that?

>I don't give a shit if anyone here is a communist.

I would say that mindset is the reason we’re in this mess. At any scale–from this site to the world.

>If they start preaching communism, then I will argue against them

Ah, but every day? Every time? In every thread? Day in and day out, exactly the same arguments every time? You already said there’s no obligation for a board (a nation)–a body of users with a near-collective set of ideas (an ethnic group with a near-collective set of values and principles)–to allow such things. Wouldn’t that get tiring? Wouldn’t you eventually say “live and let live,” having been worn down to dust by the same paid shills and the same lies, every single day, posted without regard for the past or for truth?

I’m trying to help you understand why we’re in this fucking mess. The mindsets responsible for it.

>I will decide if I don't like what a poster is saying.

Then decide it.

>>168597

Oh, by the way. I promise not to call you out, as a user, anymore. And since I’m not a communist (like you), my word actually has weight and objective value. I have hard data saved now that proves everything you say is a lie, so I don’t even need to. Cheers, commie. See you in the next thread.

>>168600

>no one cares

Said the guy who cares enough to post I’m laughing at the bigger context of your post, too. And no, the communist is not me.

>>168601

>I’m looking right at the post.

You have no idea what "public" means, do you. Are you really so unaware of how this site works?

>Is that a promise?

Yes.

>>168601

>it’s a directive from the site owner himself

Then you admit that it is you who do not belong here. Good to know. Resign.

>a board (a nation)

This board isn't a nation, you smooth brained faggot. Like you commie alter-ego said: you don't know who is who unless they choose to use the same IP. Every single poster in this thread could be the exact same person and nobody would ever know. It's called "anonymous", you fucking nigger.

>>168604

>And no, the communist is not me

Prove it, faggot. You're obviously samefagging.

>>168609

>This board isn't a nation

See, now I have to question if you’re even white, because you clearly can’t think in the abstract. The metaphor was just about as clear as you can make it. What’s not to understand?

> Every single poster in this thread could be the exact same person and nobody would ever know.

Yeah, it’s looking that way for a few things…

>Prove it

I publicly disavow communism. I stand against everything for which he stands. The jewish narrative on the virus is a proven hoax, whereas he worships it and claims anyone who doesn’t agree with what the jews say is insane. He claims that the Biden documents are fraudulent and irrelevant to Joe, despite being directly related to Joe (oh, he supports Biden winning, too). He cheers and supports the imprisonment of the Rittenhouse kid; I know he did literally nothing wrong–both in a legal sense and in a moral sense. Oh, here’s a new one; he says all whites are mutts by virtue of being white. Didn’t notice that earlier. Meanwhile, every genetic study we’ve done shows the purity (and relative genetic tightness) of the European species, particularly compared to Asians and Africans.

I mean, it’s all so fucking tiresome. It really is.

>>168611

>I publicly disavow communism.

So do I.

>>168611

So you disagree with him politically and, thus, have decided it's your personal job to make sure we all know who he is in every thread he posts in, regardless of the topic of the thread? God damn, son. Take your meds or take a vacation or something. You've let a fucking anon get under your skin this bad? Are you Kenneth Scheuller?

Nobody knows who is and isn't white here. The old 8/pol/ meet-ups were a bunch of fucking Mexicans. How the fuck do we know you're not a Mexican? Post your pic, your driver's license, and 23andme documentation. Won't do that? Then I guess you're a mexican or a nigger and that's what I'm going to tell people until you prove otherwise. Ok? Ok! You honestly need to stop being a mod. You can't handle it.

>>168611

>I publicly disavow communism

No you don't. This isn't public, you colossal winged faggot. When you go to another thread and make a post, nobody but you is going to know you made this post. Do you know what "public" means? Holy fuck, you're an idiot.

>>168616

>so you

No.

>take your meds

And the shills out themselves yet again.

>The old 8/pol/ meet-ups were a bunch of fucking Mexicans.

Those were cuckchan images, anon. Never mind that they were clearly demoralization propaganda. Why did you gloss over the questions I asked?

>>168618

>a public forum isn’t public

wew lad

>>168619

>a public forum

This is an anonymous forum, you fucking moron. It's public in that anyone can access it, but it's a dark room full of people wearing masks and voice changer boxes. Literally nothing you say ITT matters because it won't follow you to other threads. You are going to have to copy/paste a signature saying "I disavow communism" and put it on every single post you ever make in any thread in perpetuity until the heat death of the universe in order for your disavowal to be "public" on this website. When a person is as retarded as you, do they realize it? Are you aware that you have the brain capacity of a half dead box turtle or do you actually believe yourself to be smart?

>>168620

>This is an anonymous forum

Which is public. They’re not mutually exclusive.

>It's public in that anyone can access it

And he instantaneously admits that what I said was true, destroying his ‘moron’ narrative.

>and put it on every single post you ever make in any thread

Such as… through the contents of the posts? Whites are capable of reading words and understanding context clues from the statements made by those words. For example, if someone says, “Objective truth underpins all reality,” you know they disavow communism, because communism predicates itself on objectivity not existing. Ideological position can be determined without overt statement. Do you really have a problem understanding that?

>When a person is as retarded as you, do they realize it?

Is it irony or just flagrant stupidity that causes you to be unable to see beyond a single possible answer to any question?

>>168621

>the only pro-whites aren’t white at all

If nothing else, you’re funny.

>>168556

Most grass roots movements are ether started by CIA/Jews or are co-opted by them

>>168542

>The "right" encourages people to arm up and go shoot people.

>The "left" encourages people to

kneel for flags and drink soy.

The "right" encourages jackshit.

The right encourages jackshit.

The "left" publicly encourages on media and social media to deplatform, harm and kill people along with genocide, property damage and general degeneracy.

Honestly, I don't think sites such as this radicalize anyone, it happens more likely when someone who was already mildly hostile to liberalism discovers just how deep the rabbit hole goes with these people, and experiences the full extent of their insanity and malice first-hand.

https://www.wfla.com/news/pasco-county/pasco-school-district-investigating-claims-that-cheerleader-was-forced-to-kneel-during-anthem/

https://archive.is/wip/63oBF

These commies are getting out of hand

>>168540

Has anyone other than Caleb Cain been "deradicalized"? He lost his shit when St. Tarrant did something, but the comments sections on all sites were fucking LIT. Like normies didnt give a shit because of all the vannings, murders and shit.

>>168540

i don't know if 'radicalize' is the right term.

the amount of information there is in these forums can't be found on any msm outlet. only browsing here can a normie get exposed to facts, ideas, theories and interpretations that fall outside the socially acceptable range. Many of these ideas are in fact radical, and if the reader gets persuaded they might become a believer in these radical ideas, as such, they may have been radicalized. By the ideas. that's the point, memes are transferred through the web and said memes do the radicalizing, not the person responsible for spreading the meme, but the underlying statements about the world.

>>168540

>we radicalize people. Like the left doesn't do this more' He also insist most of us are unable to find a mate when in reality all the people who I know in person who hold our beliefs are married and most with children (including me).

Their new narrative is that all right wingers are incels because some virgins on 4chan complain about women.

Statistics however show that right-wingers are more satisfied and are more likely to be in a stable relationship and that inceldom is mostly a zoomer-gamer thing

Left-wing has even more incels but they do not complain about it loud because it would be "hateful" towards to women.

The reason why there are so many incels nowdays is mainly cause of video games and escapism

They also had the narrative that all Fascists are homosexuals but they have dropped this for now because its too "homophobic"