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You don't need a nuke to have a big ass explosion.

I hope it was though and I hope it was fired by Israel because it might finally stop some people from seeing them as oppressed angels.

>>148290

<y u no archive

>https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-august-4-2020/

Its fine, they said they didnt do it.

>>148291

Case closed, Israel would never lie.

That shockwave is a sight to behold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jGUU3EmLxw

Some reports suggest that a fireworks warehouse sat next to a grain silo at the port – definite low IQ mistake if true. Grain silos by themselves can be explosive if not maintained properly.

>>148285

Seriously, why does everyone think every explosion bigger than a firecracker is a nuke? A transformer blew at a power plant in Tehran a couple weeks ago and everyone just knew it had to be a nuke. Yeah, it's a big-ass explosion, but it's not a nuclear explosion.

Here's a couple of protips:

1] Nukes are detonated at around 2,000 feet (600 meters). If an explosion of that size happens on the ground, it's not a nuke. Hollywood is not real life and there is no nuclear device capable of that size explosion that an individual could "suicide vest" with.

2] If Breitbart is your source, kill yourself. Breitbart is literally Tumblr.

>>148298

To add to this, if you watch OP's video, you'll see three or four angles by different people. In the second one, those people were close enough that the EMP would have knocked out their camera and they would be on fire if it were a nuke. Nukes are hot … like really, really hot. Even the smallest nukes will scorch everything around it to ashes instantly.

>>148296

Looks like a thermobaric bomb to me.

>>148296

Fucker owes me money, and he's headlining around blowing shit up.

That nigger kike.

It has to be Mossad sabotage. they've been doing this shit in Iran too.

Headline from a couple days ago.

Israeli drone crashes in Lebanon amid tensions with Syria

Israel says one of its military drones has crashed in southern Lebanon

By ILAN BEN ZION Associated Press

There's a massive explosion in the home country of Hezbollah.

It wasn't Israel hahaha,

They must of figured out it was a bomb making factory disuised

Refresher, What is Hezbollah?

Johnny Gat

>https://www.johnnygat.com/downloads/7FljX4wK0ZU.mp4

>>148313

That your boyfriend?

>>148285

Normie news is saying it's a fireworks factory next to a stockpile of fertilizer.

About 15 years ago Israel was accused of using thermob's on Lebanon of all places.

Wayne Madsen picked up on it when he noticed how light weight these munitions were.

>https://www.defensetech.org/archives/002614.html

Yea it was a fireworks place that mossad sabotaged. When it comes to Israel i don't believe in coincidences.

>>148317

>second pic

Any footage of the initial explosion or fire that started there? Or did it vaporize any bystanders in the vicinity? Seems odd to have a huge fire break out with little to no details.

>>148365

https://twitter.com/skinsbearr/status/1290709202336448513

It changed my mind

>>148367

Fiesta!

>>148368

Talking about what caused that plume, its pretty big to be something ignored for so long.

>>148367

That’s old video from china fyi.

>>148371

Can you prove it?

>>148302

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. That pressure wave seemed too uncharacterestic of conventional HE.

>>148366

underated dubs

8kun shitting the bed for anyone else right now?

>>148389

Yup, America's biggest honeypot is not doing so good rn.

>>148390

You think this little 25 person site is America's biggest honeypot? Damn

>>148293

This is not a grain silo blast. The fireworks did not cause the secondary explosion. The initial blast at the fertilizer storage facility caused some action at other facilities in the district. The protections in place at the fertilizer storage facility must have been quite good against industrial accident, but of course not against military action.

<Countries that Israel has declared as their enemies are not allowed to make or import fertilizer.

made thread on /k/ before checking here ;_;

>>148291

Wow, IDK it seems random to come out of the gate screaming that 'you didn't do it'. Or does every semitic nation act guilty at every random explosion? Like if you don't come out the second it happened and claim innocence it must have been you who did it? Those people are insane.

>>148293

Didn't realize that Lebanon was know for their fireworks manufacturing.

>>148296

Hahaha what a dumbass…he just keeps driving right towards it rather than pulling off to the side or an alley to take shelter from the blast wave.

>>148305

That is absolutely amazing. I would love to see the device that made that explosion.

>>148317

That last pic is a very obscure hand rubbing merchant if I ever seen one.

>>148331

Why anyone on the planet allows these fucking nigger savages to live among them or even share a border I have no idea…

>>148331

BS nobody sends out a PM for such huge collateral damage. try harder.

>>148357

airstrikes leave trace of involvement. If anything, I and don't put it past the jews, then a truck is much more plausible. This woman is exhibiting typcial 'I was in one so I know' bullshit.

>>148374

>>148373

>>148367

Clearly shows fireworks, and sounds like it too. They must have kept the substances to make the fireworks in bulk in the same site. Typical third world behavior. Again, that's not to say Hezbollah had a stake in such a factory, seems plausible enough, and that immediately makes it playsible for the jews to try and blow it up and make it look like an accident.

>>148420

What gets me is that second explosion, that was massive for fireworks alone.

>>148401

I know right, nothing to celebrate in that shithole. In all seriousness, most countries have their own fireworks factories, and fireworks are a common staple for any festivity. Here in Europe every small town that has a patron Saint organizes a fireworks display, and there's other events too, like weddings.

Why would you leave highly explosive material at a strategic port in your capitol? You wouldn't do that. It was clearly a fucking bomb, not an accident. Totally unbelieveable bullshit this was an accident.

>>148421

Yeah. That's either the storage for their gunpowder for the fireworks, or a chemical facilities' storage right next door and a delayed blast from the first one that must have triggered it. Hard to say for now.

>>148424

Welcome to the middle east, where rules are made and then 1000 small companies ignore them. If money is to be made, it finds a way. Now I do believe it's an excellent opportunity for Hezbollah to dip in those supplies occasionally, and that makes it an excellent opportunity for the jews to drive a truck bomb with a delivery into the facility.

oh look jews pointing in the other direction on cue

https://www.rt.com/news/497108-hrw-director-hezbollah-beirut-blast/

>>148386

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-beirut-explosion-attack-bomb-some-kind-after-briefed-generals

>>148446

haha who is this fucking nut?

>>148468

>$19 million per day

>real money to the US government

You're a simpleton who can't handle math, anon. That's peanuts. You see a lot of zeros and it just translates to "big number" in your tiny mind. There's a world of difference between a million dollars, a billion dollars, and a trillion dollars, but they all just equate to "lots and lots of money" to you.

None of this is to say that Israel isn't fucking us royally, but formal government aid money is the least of it.

>>148465

techno viking. he's known far and wide, you ignorant fool

>>148477

I've seen him before but looking at his ridiculous dancing I had no idea he was such an utter fool.

>>148476

I said you can't comprehend the numbers and it's true, i mean truly comprehend. But you did figure out a trillion is more than a billion, go back to kindergarten

Heck I bet you think interstellar space travel is possible, or that you think it's possible that out of all the UFO sightings maybe a couple may be of alien origin.

>>148496

This is bigger than most can even comprehend!!! Lebanon DEPENDED on that huge port area for necessities to survive! Without that port, Lebanon is at 100% mercy of neighboring countries. Their economy was not every good to begin with, but at least that port facilitated trade. It's completely gone now. That means if food doesn't continue to get distributed, many of those citizens will end up starving and without essentials to survive for long.

>>148496

>I can bet that Z spray painted under "goodbye" stands for ZOG or Zionism!

Why not Zorro?

It's just an underline, faggot.

False alarm, this was "just" an ammonium nitrate explosion because of total lack of any security concept at the storage facility. Typical Bhopal-level nigger style fuckup.

Just a cohencidence pissrael are the only ones to benefit massively from this?

>>148424

This. It was practically begging for an Israel sub to torpedo it.

>>148476

>19 millions per day is breadcrumbles

>(((1)))

>>148506

Please not the trend of (1)s ITT. Think we got something here.

>>148298

>1] Nukes are detonated at around 2,000 feet (600 meters). If an explosion of that size happens on the ground, it's not a nuke.

Though I agree it was not a nuke, fucking kill yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuclear_device

>>148528

>>148526

>>148529

>>148531

You can reply to more than 1 post in the same thread you know.

Saw this and thought it was kind of neat,

When HMX is heated, it undergoes deflagration, emitting brown smoke.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1290748019218853890.html

The energy release is greatly reduced.

BROWN SMOKE, not red, as the idiot media is reporting.

Someone took out Iran's entire supply of rocket fuel in Lebanon.

AND.

They greatly reduced the destruction by causing DEFLAGRATION instead of DETONATION.

Iran thinks it can hide weapons depots in civilian centers, because nobody will hit them.

WRONG.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1290776857357344768.html

This depot would've been under heavy guard.

Planting the technology used to deflagrate the missiles would've been extremely difficult.

My guess is that a swarm of tiny pyrotechnic drones was used.

Surveillance drones would 've allowed a 3-D digital model of the inside of the warehouse to have been constructed.

Using that model, it would've been possible to figure out how to deflagrate the warheads and rocket fuel in such a way that the blast effect could be directed.

Basically, you SHAPE the blast effect.

The use of explosive vapor (fuel-air explosive) gives you the ability to shape the blast effect and direct it wherever you want.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1290807851053506561.html

More circumstantial evidence that the explosion in the Beirut port was deliberate. The grain silos next the the warehouse that contained what I think was octogen or HMX rocket fuel are still standing, despite being damaged.

These silos contain Lebanon's strategic grain reserves.

That's why the Iranians put their missiles beside it.

BUT.

The silos were virtually empty.

"It is believed the silos did not contain huge quantities of grain at the time of the explosion, as the country tried to meet a shortage of bread that surfaced recently."

So the right time to destroy the missile depot would be when the strategic grain reserves had already been used, and the country was consuming as much as it was importing.

The Lebanese are lying about ammonium nitrate being taken from a sinking ship 12 years ago.

What actually happened was that in 2013 or 2014not 2008the MV Rhosus for unknown reasons entered the port of Beirut with a cargo of "explosives."

The Search Port State Control (PSC) of the International Maritime Organization (IMO) deemed the ship to be not seaworthy.

From that point on, we don't know what happened.

>>148565

I don't like doing that because it fucks up tree view when you are looking at comments in that format.

>>148572

whoops

I should say that this is a copypasta from something someone sent me. Not my personal opinion.

>>148298

> Nukes are detonated at around 2,000 feet

except when they're not.

This ied or whatever is almost as big as Beruit's deal.

>>148614

Tool users (as opposed to tool makers) never actually think about these things anon. They don't consider them because they don't have the capacity to consider them (or imagine anything different than what they know). I was reading this except about Macaque monkeys. They could always select the right tool for the job but would never in a million years be able to construct that tool. It is the same with subhumans. They might exist in society but they have no imagination for what COULD HAPPEN…this is why I think they are dangerous to themselves and other and should be exterminated in favor of what is capable of understanding 'potential'.

>>148614

Why spend millions developing bombs when you can use a lone match to set off chain reaction the size of 1/5th of the Hiroshima bomb?

Jewvee is trying to pass this off as a fire causing a huge explosion, ignoring the explosion that started it all.

>>148726

>veteranstoday

What do we know about them?

>>148565

I can't wait to reply to whatever I read, sorry.

>>148726

How come people who see conspiracy in everything never admit when it turns out they're wrong?

>>148728

Trump worshiping Q-tards.

>>148728

Dont believe this jew. >>148743

>>148743

Why do ppl like you always fuck their own mothers.

Oh sorry I thought we were talking off-topic here.

Its kinda funny because youre playing so much into VTs hands lmao.

VT has said that there were shills out in force to make it seem like an actual accident and I didnt care, but you just made me believe them for 2 reasons

A. That site is pretty anti-trump, theres an anti-trump book shilled on every page of the site, in other articles theyre very wary of Trump as well.

B. The latest article they published on Q-Anon was that Q-Anon was covering for jews and pedos, which is the very same believe /pol/ has and everyone else that read Qanons "N in NWO stands for Nazi" lmao.

Thanks Shill, now I dont have to question this happening anymore.

Just to add C. Youre using typical jewspeak.

>>148726

>>148750

With the amount of nitrate in the place, you wouldn't need a nuke. Just light one of the firecrackers off and let the domino effect take over. If your target is going to be retarded, make use of it.

>>148285

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L7SlqDtRnc

>>148366

lmao it's a laughing merchant

Why is it that nuke bombs are the fukken end all in the minds of idiots, yet every time a fertilizer dump blows up, it's a nuke bomb in the minds of idiots? I fukken hate you people.

>>148743

>Trump worshiping Q-tards.

So you're saying these are Q-fags that are willing to criticize israel? In other words, they're not q-fags then.

I have to say, jews have really made having no self-respect work for them. You will fucking say anything.

>>148750

>say anyone who disagrees with you is a shill

>this proves you're right when someone disagrees with you

Mmmm delicious kike tactics. Just replace "shill" with "antisemite".

>>148824

>I'm pretty sure that's a bird.

Not anymore.

It was likely Israel – here's some evidence:

Watch this video – at 1:17 you can hear the sounds of fighter jets passing overhead right before the big explosions start to kick off:

https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/1291117659166310401

.

>>148824

>To them it's praising Israel for blasting those dirty mooslimes.

You do realize the article and the site itself is there for anyone to read it, right?

Articles like these: https://www.veteranstodaynetwork.com/2020/08/03/zionist-covid-disinfo-machine/

I just want you to know that when the day comes, begging for mercy will be wasted breath.

>>148834

It fits the profile of a giant screw.

>>148842

That's literally just a bird. You can see in the video it flying instead of dropping down.

>>148843

LOL "fits the profile"

"Yeah, those lousy screws are known to hang around fireworks factories and prey on innocent young fireworks."

>>148842

>before the explosion

But in this pic >>148726 the explosion already happened. Make up your minds, get together and coordinate your narrative, then get back to us, kike.

>>148850

There were two explosions.

I don't know what happened. I can only make an educated guess based on who benefits and what the event looked like.

But these desperate lies and pathetic attempts at misdirection certainly lend more credence to the theory that the only ones who benefited from this are the ones responsible. Typical cheap tricks.

>Is it a bird, is it a screw? No! It's lyingkike!

Israel announced that it was going to strike Lebanese infrastructure if they did not crack down on Hezbollah days before the attack. But remember goy, Hezbollah are the terrorists.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/07/31/in-dramatic-policy-shift-israel-to-hold-lebanon-accountable-for-hezbollah-attack/

>>148614

What the actual fucknoggin they literally piled the stuff nose to ass in a warehouse with no subdivision??? That is ASKING it to go off.

If it's OK for one nation to strike another nation's weapons dumps then is it OK for some neighboring countries to strike Dimona?

>>148901

Israel could practically do everything because they have the backing of China, Russia, NATO and America, they are Isreal's bitch.The sooner everyone realizes this the more you understand why Israel could do anything it wants to without anyone touching the nation.

Has anyone thought all the weather just destroying China is a coincidence?

For some reason I feel we are at the dawn of the space wars (weather manipulation, satellite to ground attacks, constant spying)

If you think about the amount of satellites sent into space every week world wide it might make sense

>>148922

The chinese and traitor 'americans' can't launder all that money without little isreal.

>>148726

It wasn't a nuke, unless a new type. Most phones & cameras would have been inoperable after a nuke.

I suspect the boomer AG of NY doesn't know that the NRA is in the way of a more radical gun agenda.

That is, radical pro-gun agenda. He would not know that most gun owners support a lifting of the ban on the sale of new full autos.

>>148964

I support the ability to buy, without any restriction, registration or regulation, fully automatic machine guns, crew served medium and heavy machine guns, auto cannons, recoiless rifles and anti aircraft artillery and guns.

>>148966

I like the idea of having your own personal no-fly zone.

>>148970

As all truly free Americans should. I don't want some unauthorized aircraft flying over my property.

>>148424

>>148979

It's not thermal imaging. It's a negative-image video with a far-too-sharpy-defined missile grafted into it that has no motion blur.

If it was thermal, the clouds of smoke in back would be about the same thermal color as the clouds in front.

>>148981

Fuck you Jew. It's a blue check mark account and is real, no pun intended.

>>148982

You can buy a blue check mark for $200, you fucking kike.

>>148979

If the video is authentic, then oh sheeit nigga.

>>148981

I too am awaiting a better source. It does look like "thermal" ie an iPhone filter. But it could still be from a real video, and he could just be being retarded. ie it could be a real video w/ a missile, and the false color makes it clear

But it could be faked.

>>148901

They should just toss a nuke to shut down the Haifa port and call it even. There’s no reason to escalate.

The "missile" looks a tad slow. Is it normal?

Lately, there have been events of sabotage, obviously sponsored by israel. There have been many fires in Iran, and other places (like Portland, and other cities in the US).

Hypothesis: israel pushes fringe revolutionaries in Lebanon to commit arson. They set fire to a fireworks facility, which sends sparks all over the place in an industrial area, catching either the infamous barge or something else on fire, thus the massive blast.

>>148994

Commonly, in footage of Afghanistan, you are super lucky if you get 1-2 frames where the SAM is visible iirc

>>148981

Absolutely correct. To confirm, you can invert the colours again to get a natural color image, in any image editor.

This is just the kind of shit they throw out there to make people questioning the narrative look like idiots.

>>149008

Well, the situation is that the kikes create confusion, in many ways. A fake video doesn't exonerate them, but, they would find it manipulates people. "fake video tries to frame innocent non-cannibal kikes!" Then tards in the public reject the concept, not understanding a hoax cannot resolve truth of the underlying concept.

>>148973

It is a self assembling pathogen made of phages not a virus. These are about as different as you can get on this planet in terms of ability and function.

>>149008

Confirmed real

>https://twitter.com/maelfyn/status/1291436112800612360

>>149039

kys filthy kike

https://twitter.com/intheMatrixxx/status/1291484293085134856

https://twitter.com/plughtoplugh/status/1291458409280217089

Here are 2 video's proving it was fake.

>>149057

>proving it was fake.

the whole event?

>>149058

The fake missile that blew up the warehouse. Did you not watch the video?

>>149059

No, a video hoax alleging a missile attack, but which looks rather fake, has no backing, thus is thought a hoax video.

Hoaxes are used by the NSA & Mossad to discredit views. The psychological flaw they exploit is disgust. After getting fucked over by, say, a UFO hoax, the subject becomes averse to the subject matter.

>Meme games are mass psychology games.

>>149059

How can a fake missile blow something up?

>>149068

I doubt it blew itself up so something happened. Idk what happened. Just thought it was weird that isreal started screeching about not doing anything right afterwards. If you are innocent that is the last thing you would do.

>>149069

I meant like a photoshoped missile.

>>148313

that is my favorite position to take my wife in.

Here's the Beirut blast in 4K high definition:

https://youtu.be/hp-n-ghagok?t=444

Bravo Jerry Bruckheimer!

He really upped his game with this recent production, it almost looked real.

>>149100

Dead on the ground?

Disturbing anon.

>>149145

I watched it in .25 speed on yt. Interesting.

>>149172

>pathogenic phages

This is the stupidest comment of the week. Congratulations.

>>149174

Don't congratulate me. Congratulate 880761 for spamming this groundbreaking discovery in every thread since February.

Is it possible jews are a fungus? I know they’re stinky. I’m ready to believe.

>>149244

I don't see why fungi would thrive in the desert. They are the least adjusted terrestrial multicellular life kingdom for arid conditions.

>>149240

No I meant you. All phages are pathogenic. Their sole job on the planet is to kill life so that life does not grow out of control. Without phages the entire planet would be overwhelmed by life in less than 2 days. They are the greatest killing machine that has ever existed.

>BREAKING: Lebanon's president has said an investigation into the Beirut blast is exploring the possibility it was caused by "a rocket or a bomb"

>>149069

It makes sense for israel to deny it. They relatively recently bombed Beirut. I can google the date if you want. But it also makes sense for them to do it, then deny it. Also, Lebanon treated the crew of the now infamous ship like trash, and they deserved for this to happen to their shitty country.

>there's a reason Aussies consider Leb a by-word

>>149254

"Pathogenic" usually implies parasitism on humans or higher multicellular eukaryotes, smartass, not freaking bacteria, smartass. Are there even phages that parasitize on archaea or are they picky even among prokaryote hosts?

>>149267

<Pathogen

<a bacterium, virus, or other microorganism that can cause disease.

Don't hurt yourself kike.

>>148285

It can't be jews. Jews would never attack enemies of Israel. The nuke left the military base of its own free will. Stop blaming others for your problems.

>>149275

>being that innane

Phages have NEVER been observed causing diseaze to any organism that isn't a bacterio, and we are stretching the concept of "diseaze" too much if we consider bacteria as "getting sick", you stupid mycorrhiza fetishist!

>>149287

Stupid retard. That is what a cold is because there is no 'cure' or vaccine for it. The phage spike protein mutate way too rapidly for a large scale organism to ever defend against. Those kike/bug fucks simply packaged their gene drive inside a cold.

>>149296

Trying hard to sound verbose does not make you sound any less of a flat-earth-tier retard. Point me ONE valid medical or academic source that claims phages have ANY pathogenic effect on humans, animals or even unicellular eukaryotes.

>>149301

Go look it up lazy faggot. You have already been wrong in almost every single post you have made. Also, filtered for being a argumentative kike rather than an interested observer.

>>149302

Looked it up multiple times, the only evidence presented for pathogenesis on humans is through disturbance of gut flora (bacteria).

PS:

>The phage spike protein mutate way too rapidly for a large scale organism to ever defend against.

You know what else does that and ACTUALLY infects eukaryotic cells? Rhinoviruses, Influenzaviruses and CORONAVIRUSES!

But no! It HAS to be either a fungus or an obligate parasite of prokaryotes so that you can prove your mom right when she said that you were "special", you fucking mongoloid.

>>149267

Can we not get wrapped up in semantics and destroy the thread, please? The definition of pathogenic does not explicitly single out humanity. And phage is literally short for “bacteriophage,” chosen for a reason. Moreover…

>>149031

>a self assembling pathogen made of phages not a virus

Phages are viruses.

Please take the chinkflu conversation to that thread. Or perhaps not… I think they’d be a bit more testy about this sort of thing.

>>149320

No fucking phages are not. Why is this board plagued with retards all of the sudden? This isn't even the level of retardation you would get with fuck 5 minutes of Googling which would easily prove you totally wrong. Filtered for being a kike asshole as well.

>>149321

>Five minutes of Goggling

>>149267

>parasitize on archaea or are they picky even among prokaryote hosts

you'll niggers just taken online high school or something?

Lebanon Michel Aoun has suggested that the Beirut blast may have been caused by *external interference due to a missile strike or a bomb.*

Aoun also said that he asked France for satellite images to see if there were *warplanes or missiles in the air at the time of the blast.*

https://greatgameindia.com/beirut-blast-missile-bomb/

>>148728

For a website that supposedly pursues the truth and venerates investigative journalism the staff seem to be doing just fine… on a .com domain. I do think there was a missile but that video is not how thermal imaging works plus the angle is the same as that of a different video that is devoid of thermal imaging. Don't have a military background so I can't be 100% sure what kind of equipment is available nowadays but at any rate we're going to need more authentic footage.

>>149321

<phages are not

>bacteriophage [bak-te´re-o-fāj″]: a virus that destroys bacteria by lysis…

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/bacteriophage

>Bacteriophage, also called phage or bacterial virus, any of a group of viruses that infect bacteria.

https://www.britannica.com/science/bacteriophage

> A bacteriophage (/bækˈtɪərioʊfeɪdʒ/), also known informally as a phage (/feɪdʒ/), is a virus that infects and replicates within bacteria and archaea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteriophage

Hi, retard plaguing the board.

>5 minutes of googling

Literally every result on every search engine explicitly says bacteriophages are viruses. You’re suffering from brain damage. Get help and stop spamming non-COVID threads with your lies.

Ex-Israeli lawmaker sparks outrage after hailing Beirut blast as ‘gift’ from God

>http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/08/06/631193/Israel-Moshe-Feiglin-Lebanon-Beirut-blast

I'm ashamed to admit that I wish our people still had the iron to say such things publicly.

>>148298

>nukes cannot be detonated on the ground

>cant be a nuke because it could only be transported by a man wearing a suicide vest and no man wearing a suicide vest could transport such a nuke

Looks like PEPCON

Hard to see evidence of a bomb or missile.

>>148360

They say yep, it's the something something that was stored in this depot.

>>148302

They simply do not work like that. There are videos on yt, you can verify.

There's a clear delay between the spraying of the fine dust that's going to be ignited, and then the ignition itself. The delay is around a second and you can't miss the initial creation of the dust cloud.

There is just nothing like in the port explosion, it really does look 100% chemical, although if a device had been used, the triggering mechanism, assuming it would be small enough, couldn't be differentiated from an accident.

What is of interest here is how the red cloud is propelling into the air and a high altitude and a high speed.

It means the yet explosive chemicals have not reacted, which means the explosion happened well beneath the crates/barrels holding this red-powder chemical.

The blast was powerful enough and close to the ground as to literally dig a crater, which requires a considerable mass of chemicals to explode, in itself acting as a massive inert mass that would compress the initial fireball's blast waves during the first hundredths of seconds of the explosion.

The fact that red powder was sent into the air would support the idea that it acted as a compressor to push the explosion sideways and downward.

The main problem with this is how the flash that signs the beginning of the explosion seems to be centered on a point located several levels above ground.

This might suggest an early detonation above the storehouse' roof before something entered it to generate a second explosion almost immediately. That would be a two stage device and could relate to an evolution of a MOAB type bomb: US forces specialized in bunker busters.

This new design might involve a first stage to suddenly accelerate the heavy and massive piercing projectile into the ground. The explanation could be that it allows the projectile a slower approach for a cleaner targeting.

If the red powder relates to this weapon, then it could be that a considerable amount of explosive dust has not ignited properly and we would indeed be looking at a much faster type of thermobaric weapon, perhaps a mini-nuke triggering system coupled to nanopowder.

>>149712

>The big reveal.

You found a flash. Good.

All explosions have one, so what?

>>149715

The fact that they had that stored in their port for years and everyone knew it, it wasn't a secret at all.

So what? It was an act of god and I want you to acknowledge it.

I really can't believe there's a debate about whether Israel did it. The question is can they prove it and even if they do prove it so what.

>https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2020/08/04/breaking-israel-bombed-beirut/

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A confidential highly-informed Israeli source has told me that Israel caused the massive explosion at the Beirut port earlier today which killed over 100 and injured thousands. The bombing also virtually leveled the port itself and caused massive damage throughout the city.”

By Richard Silverstein, reposted from Tikun Olam

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חשיפה: ישראל היא שפוצצה מאגר תחמושת של חיזבאללה בנמל ביירות, אך לא ידעה מראש שמחסן סמוך מכיל כמות אדירה של אמוניום חנקתי. הממשלה, המומה מממדי הקטל וההרס, מיהרה להכחיש מעורבות ישראלית – עוד לפני שמישהו בלבנון האשים את ישראל

A confidential highly-informed Israeli source has told me that Israel caused the massive explosion at the Beirut port earlier today which killed over 100 and injured thousands. The bombing also virtually leveled the port itself and caused massive damage throughout the city.

Israel targeted a Hezbollah weapons depot at the port and planned to destroy it with an explosive device. Tragically, Israeli intelligence did not perform due diligence on their target. Thus they did not know (or if they did know, they didn’t care) that there were 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate stored in a next door warehouse. The explosion at the arms depot ignited the next door warehouse, causing the catastrophe that resulted.

It is, of course, unconscionable that Israeli agents did not determine everything about their target including what was in its immediate vicinity. The tragedy Israel has wreaked is a war crime of immense magnitude.

The ICC has already been investigating Israel for war crimes in Gaza since the 2014 Operation Protective Edge. Now, I imagine it will expand the scope to incorporate today’s criminally negligent massacre.

Though Israel has regularly attacked Hezbollah and Iranian weapons depots and convoys in Syria, it rarely undertakes such brazen attacks inside Lebanon. This attack in the country’s capital marks an even greater escalation. The sheer recklessness of this operation is astonishing.

Not surprising though. An operation of this sort can only happen amidst internal political dysfunction. Bibi is on the ropes and desperate to change the subject. When his intelligence officers brought the plan to him he probably rubbed his hands with glee and said: “Go to it!” Israeli intelligence was naturally out to please the boss and probably cut corners in order to make the attack happen. When no one is at the wheel saying “Stop!” the boat hits an iceberg and sinks. That’s possibly what happened here.

>>149723

Remember Sheldon Adelson is mad at Trump, why? Here's why

Above article quote

This would be highly classified information, which would mean that Trump once again exposed U.S. intelligence secrets and methods, which no president should do. It is reminiscent of previous episodes in which he shared such highly sensitive information with Russian officials. And it’s the reason why U.S. intelligence officials do everything in their power to keep such information from him.

There could (and should) be Israeli domestic political repercussions for this disaster. As Netanyahu approved the attack, he is responsible for the consequences. In 1982, a commission of inquiry found Ariel Sharon culpable for the invasion of Lebanon and the massacre at Sabra and Shatilla. He was sent into political exile for a decade. At the very least, this should disqualify Bibi from leading the country. This would be the outcome in any democratic nation in which the leader was held accountable for his failures

Now that's some 4d chess

RFDT:

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1290745494264786948?s=19

Very strange. What do you think guys about it? Do you have informations?

Israel has been setting off explosions in Iran and probably elsewhere for a few weeks now. This one in Lebanon was bigger than the others, but seemingly part of the same Israeli initiative.

>>150008

Based on the tunneling substructure I don't think this one was 'israel'. Nuking this site is the last thing they would want to do. All I heard about this event was, "150 people died so that 150 million wouldn't have to." Supposedly this all correlates to all the other more minor explosions this week as well.

"Think of the children…."

>>150029

They listed the port as one of their bombing targets a few weeks ago.

>>150031

Source so I can compare notes?

Sand nigs go boom.

>>150182

It does make you think…doesn't it?

>>150031

The area Benjamin Netanyahu was pointing at in 2018 during the conference isn't exactly the same, but they clearly had something up their sleeve.

>>150223

Source?

>>150226

He was pointing at targets close to the International Airport.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/156261/in-2018-netanyahu-threatened-to-blow-up-that-very-missile-site-in-beirut/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-netanyahu-addresses-2018-un-general-assembly-1.6512874

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6orFQGx1_sc

https://thespectator.info/2020/08/05/netanyahu-warned-the-united-nations-of-iranian-missile-stockpiles-in-beirut-back-in-2018-video/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-releases-photos-of-alleged-hezbollah-missile-sites-near-beirut-airport/ (notice "the site at the dock" on the picture, in dashed red line in upper left corner)

https://www.voltairenet.org/article210679.html

https://www.the961.com/nasa-map-showing-devastation-beirut/

Underground weapon production assets (which, if detonating, would actually neatly explain the immense crater).

The International Airport is clearly far way, on the western coast, whereas the explosion happened in the docks close to the northern Central District.

Qui Bono?

Why do I keep running into your biker niggers?

>>150252

He still had targets in Beirut though.

Intel update possibly. Poor quality, dunno.

>the ship

We don't know much here. I read the ship was emptied years ago. Big confusion here.

>>150032

There is very little more information about these tunnels available.

Jewratsaliva post suggests they belong to lebanon. Most other articles are simply reposting these musings from lebanon's enemy:

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/were-suspicious-tunnels-discovered-near-beirut-port-after-explosion-638131

>There may be a more prosaic explanation for underground rooms or other aspects of the urban environment having underground infrastructure, such as tunnels for electrical, water and sewage facilities.

>Nevertheless, the quick denial by Lebanon that these areas exist and the video of the subterranean chamber or “tunnel” seems to illustrate that Lebanon is still afraid to fully investigate the area for fear of finding the suspicious activities that those critical of Hezbollah allege were taking place here.

In the very same way I guess we can take pissrael's quick denial of this attack to illustrate that pissrael is afraid of people finding that they were responsible, as their critics allege.

Peddit says you are crazy if you think they exist:

https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/i6j24b/investigators_discover_panic_roomtunnels_at_site/

>>148848

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>>148922

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>>148977

>>148988

>>149244

>>149388

>>149948

>>150033

>>150199

Absolutely, criminally and totaly underchecked. Kek mit uns - heil! Take heed, faggots.

bump

>>150985

Actually they belong to the Rothschild's and the American University who was doing 'research'. That whole area is a Rothschild stronghold (so I heard). With the bank location and many other operations owned and funded by them centrally located right there. My take on it is that there was no 'missile' but that the facility itself had a safety precaution in case anything happened that would expose it and that they blew it up from the inside, rather than the outside ('people' are replaceable after all). Look at the blast crater which destroyed just as much underground as above ground. 143 (I can't remember whether meter or feet, but I think meter) deep blast which entirely destroyed all the infrastructure underground. Unless the 'missile' (which I don't think happened) was a bunker blaster I don't think it would have destroyed to that depth but I am not a missile expert or anything, just using logic.

>>150805

Ship…mmmm maybe. I don't think it was though. I heard that it was diverted (intentionally) from Africa to Lebanon…but you know, the person I heard that from would not say who diverted it and where its port of origin was. The people that I watch online are saying Hezbollah but I tend to believe the first report I received rather than speculators. There is too much about the first report that was totally unknown by the speculators…like the infrastructure underground…etc.

>>150805

>He still had targets in Beirut though.

Yes, he did. But I would bet you that wasn't his 'target'. From the pragmatic viewpoint it was much too close to the Rothschild's bank right on the other side of the inlet. I am sure that just as the US uses other nations for their 'dirty work' Israel does as well. I can't imagine them doing dangerous biological weapons research in the heart of their criminal enterprise, can you? I wouldn't be surprised if there were significant holdings in Ukraine as well…I have seen some weird shit (in terms of photos) that are coming out of that place when it comes to genetically modified humanity.

If that actually was his target, then his goal was to destroy the food supply of that nation and cause a further massive migration into Europe 'looking for non-existent' food supplies. I mean, loosing 85% of your nations grain supply is a rather big deal.

>>151004

Shut the fuck up, you miserable 4chan faggot. Never post again.

>>151067

Don't project. And thanks for the bump.

>>151006

Although not planned as a test for nuclear weapons purposes, this large underground explosion at Ripple Rock was of interest to nuclear weapons scientists at the United Kingdom's Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston, which sent a delegation to Canada and set up various monitoring instruments to record data from the explosion. Little more is known of their objectives, although there are detailed accounts in two declassified documents in the National Archives in London.[14][15][16]

Explosion

Between November 1955 and April 1958, a three-shift operation involving an average of 75 men worked to build 500 feet (150 m) of vertical shaft from Maud Island, 2,370 feet (720 m) of horizontal shaft to the base of Ripple Rock, and two main vertical shafts up into the twin peaks, from which "coyote" shafts were drilled for the explosives. The contract was awarded to two firms for $2,639,000. At the time of the contract it was estimated the tunnels and shafts would not be completed until either 1957 or 1958.[17] 1,270 metric tons of Nitramex 2H explosive was placed in these shafts, estimated at ten times the amount needed for a similar explosion above water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_Rock

>>151176

My thought on the USS John Burke was that it was a preliminary nuke weapon that was accidentally hit by the kamikaze…after which they decided to fly future nuke bombs to locations. However, whatever was on the Burke seemed to match the explosion profile of Beirut to an absolute T. Does that mean Beirut is a nuke? No…but I think we should consider that whatever happened on the Burke seems to be an exact duplicate of what happened in Beirut. I would like to do some research into automatic detonations of bio weapons sites but I doubt there is much information online to assist me. I just know that they have a fail safe that would or should render the entire site sterile.

On a side note, not sure how blowing the damn shit out of everything and spreading every manner of particulate matter into the atmosphere could qualify as 'sterilizing' the area.

>>151186

It is nigh impossible to initiate an atomic weapon like that, unless the crash somehow started a normal electronic initiation.

However, Beirut looks like a two-stage weapon. It might not be thermobaric by design, but it might be by effect - first explosion could have ejected and dispersed secondary material which then got ignited.

>>149715

Also, this.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/08/trump-antagonizes-sheldon-adelson-phone-call-392688

So Trump and Adelson are quarrelling eh?

>>151206

>There are other explosive agents that are secret; for example, is there really a Red Mercury?

Oh I don't think that Red Mercury is a hoax at all, it is simply the chemical stage before enriched Uranium (yellow cake) when it has been altered by gamma radiation to be useful for something. But yes, I see what you are saying. I want to revisit your comment later tonight, since I have to go out. There is some very strange stuff on 8kun right now that needs to be read. Like wtf bored out of my mind and then all the sudden tons of info…

>>151209

Well what is Adelson going to do at this point? Sponsor another candidate? Wait a second tho, I thought Trumps big shtick was that he didn't need outside funding?

>>148777

She's pretty.

>>151214

It was used as a hoax in eastern Europe around 1990, some people got conned.

>>151206

I've been following this research area for a while, and I don't think there is a secret chem research - there might be secret projects, but there are no secret teams. Most of it is being done in the open e.g. Klapoetke's team etc.

However, there might be other non-conventional explosives that are being researched now, and those teams might be completely secret.

>>151473

>It was used as a hoax in eastern Europe around 1990, some people got conned.

Yes, I know that was the history of Red Mercury. However, if you wanted people to stop looking into it, what better way than play it up as a hoax?

>>151540

I was talking about chemistry of conventional explosives. It makes no sense to build teams just for that when you can use existing teams with NDA, as they commonly do. There simply aren't that many usable chemists around. This isn't Breaking Bad, they actually have to do some R&D. Not to mention, Heisenberg was a Nobel laureate.

>>151206

Detailed analysis of effects of nuclear explosions resulting from test in controlled conditions provide crucial levels of information how the energy is transferred to the surrounding matter.

How a nuke could create a crate depends on many parameters, but the a nuclear device is immensely thermal and carries little weight itself, so the only way it can increase its capacity to dig out a crater is by forcing the energy into the ground, or as it with normal chemical explosive, a dampening has to be placed somehow to push the energy in a given direction or, at least, maintain it in a given volume to make sure the energy isn't wasted by absorption through the air.

Powerful chemical detonations are perfectly capable of creating the typical fast expanding white bubble as it's caused by the overpressure wave traveling through the air medium, involving compression. A similar effect is seen, albeit at a much lower magnitude, when a jet fighter crosses the sound barrier.

The curious manifestation of the destruction here, in Beirut, is how such a red cloud managed to be almost instantly formed above ground zero. Assuming this matter could be fine enough to react, the pressure wave pushing through the red matter would have been so high that it would have quickly heated up the material as it passed through it. But for so much powder to end ejected like that, it means something solid and thick acted as a buffer against the explosion, diffusing enough of the energy so as to prevent great quantities of red powder from being ignited.

>>151473

>However, there might be other non-conventional explosives that are being researched now, and those teams might be completely secret.

Anything from miniaturization of nuclear systems, neutron projectors and nanomaterials with interesting properties.

There were also strange bombs spotted blowing up in the Middle East a few years ago, high above the ground. Can't remember the countries, maybe Iraq, Yemen…

>>151648

Note the fast expanding fast dissipating shockwave white bubbles emitted by these B52 "earthquake bombs". I think those are 1500lb bombs..

>>148842

It's going too slow, it's totally too close to the camera and totally wrong perspectives to be a bomb.

Some anons need more general experience with video and such things, I don't know what kind of training material to suggest, but I guess doing photoshop and video transcoding would help.

This is actually pretty interesting as it shows a totally non nuclear blast sending out a shockwave white vapor clouds that quickly dissipate and then huge towering clouds of smoke to 12000 feet. Heligoland at the end of WW2.

>>151692

What the fuck do you think they were hiding there? Whatever it was, it wasn't a few tunnels found after the war was over.

Pissrael did this.

>>152561

Got milk?

So who benefits?

>>153124

Strains the economy of Lebanon's capital city, destroys important grain reserves. Perhaps a missed attempted at destroying Hezbollah weapons. Might be an intimidation against Lebanon. Opens the door to sketchy humanitarian intervention.

Although Iran is pivoting and their goals are slightly at odds with that of the Hezbollah, they would never attack any Arab country on that side of the chessboard, it is stupid.

Could be Turkey that tries to look tough in the region and gain subscribers.

Could very well be Israel, with some US/EU help on the technological side.

IF it's an attack, Israel is on top of the cui bono list.

>>153146

>IF it's an attack, Israel is on top of the cui bono list.

I have never believed this. But since israels behavior is so incredibly shitty it is so very easy to frame them for anything. And who cares about that since their behavior is awful; it only matters if you want to know the truth.

>>153152

>I have never believed this.

Then you’ve never read the Oded Yinon Plan.

>>153152

No other fifth column of hostile foreigners is deeply embedded enough in America to be able to shut down NORAD for an hour and forty minutes as Israel.

>>152351

>What do jews spend on sliding the board?

>Is it a lot?

It doesn't matter to them since the entire state of Israel and everything in it is paid for by the American taxpayer.

>>153333

Faggot, look in liveleak for this video was upload here one Day after explosion then reverse color and show me your rocket.

>>153333

They have absolutely no reason to send a missile in anymore anon. They have self assembling chemical smart dust that they can simply aggregate into one location that will do the same thing as any missile…why bother with getting CAUGHT!

>>148616

This can't be emphasized enough.

>>149721

Why would God help kikes when he abandonned them back in 160AD?

>>153146

makes sense

>>153274

Sadly true.

>>153646

You mean 70 AD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)

>>154545

Thanks anon. That shed some (a little) light on the situation.

Wow! Such an unbelievable shit show.

Everyone has 'gone to ground' from what I heard last.

I am the anon who insisted the ship was bound to Africa here >>151005

Has anyone seen more news on this? All I find is sites parroting that same j-post story.

>>154545

Planned?

>>156131

For 20 years.

Since this happened, the board has been spammed with 4chan threads.

Is it because this is one of the few places where people know that when it comes to israel, the only coincidences are cohencidences?