79849c No.13565[Last 50 Posts]
What is it? We all kinda have a "feel" for what it is, but is there any rigorous definition of the term aside from kiked sources like wikipedia/dictionaries? Or is it more like how we define political parties today where no true definition exists and it's all about a set of policies that fit some ephemeral theme in the context of issues being faced by the era?
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1c4bc1 No.13566
>>13565
Communism is judaism expressed politically
Fascism is Zooroastrism expressed politically
We've been at war for a very long time.
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79849c No.13569
>>13566
>Zoroastrianism
(virtually) Dead religion that I doubt had much influence on the ideology. Buddhism and Hinduism have better right to claim to have influenced it.
unless, of course, you can provide a source
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b2e3be No.13572
First we must accept one thing.
Fascism is wildly different between nations as ultimately it reflects the people of the nation involved. There is no singular political or economic doctrine.
However there are a consistent set of principles that fascists abide by.
First is that life is constant struggle. For survival against an uncaring world. Nothing in life is free and must be won with labour and sacrifice.
Second that the state comprises everything. The people, the government, the companies, churches, civil orgs, etc. There is naught outside the state but crazy hillbillies living in shacks in the wilderness.
Three that the nation should be thought of in a manner similar to a ship at sea and the state as its crew. Unless everyone does their job the ship is doomed and if anyone undermines the nation they imperil not only the rest of the crew but themselves.
While I could likely add more. From these you can pretty much derive most further fascist thinking and principles.
Ultimately fascism reflects the time and place it was truly born, the trenches of WW1. A time of rampant militarism where a large chunk of the male population were either dead or military veterans and militarisation of the state as a whole was normal in Europe.
Mosley seems somewhat popular these days. So maybe give his works a read. He also seemed to grasp this diversity of fascist thought a lot easier than other fascist thinkers and was able to articulate/explain it.
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79849c No.13574
>>13572
>Mosley seems somewhat popular these days. So maybe give his works a read. He also seemed to grasp this diversity of fascist thought a lot easier than other fascist thinkers and was able to articulate/explain it.
tbh, I think the perceived effectiveness in articulation is largely because he is an English speaker unlike many other fascists (mostly Italian). For many fascists, we have to rely on translators to not only be honest in their translation (the German translation of a Trump speech some years ago being a prime example of how this can NOT be relied upon) but also that the semantics of the statement are properly communicated (which is hard for even the most integrous of translators). If your grasp of the English language is stronger than any other language fascists may speak, of course it will appear a whole hell of a lot more eloquent to you.
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b2e3be No.13577
>>13574
Plausible but it seems more to me that Mosley actually bothers to broach the subject and explain it in depth whereas other fascist thinkers don't really seem to acknowledge it or care.
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79849c No.13582
>>13577
To an extent, you are right. Mosley went out of his way to give a sense of compassion to the poor souls being abused by globalist imperialism to an extent that others did not (as far as I know at least). I guess it's fair to say that I retract most of my previous post.
However: what Mosley said, the Axis 'did. They sides with mMuslims, niggers, and Hindus (Hitler, who is only fascist under certain definitions, was actually a big player in India's independence movement. Look into Subhas Chandra Bose). Perhapse Mosley was a better communicator, but the actions of the Axis are clear as day to whoever cares to actually do the research.
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b2e3be No.13583
>>13582
Definitely Mosley's greatest failing was his belief that a political revolution was possible in Britain at the time. Or perhaps his trust in the civility of the British upper class (of which he was a part)
I suppose it is why he was a more prolific writer than his contemporaries, without the need to focus his time on actually running the nation he had more time to write.
Also important to remember that Mosley wanted the British Empire to remain intact but bring home rule and uniform (and better) work laws to the Empire.
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1c4bc1 No.13584
>>13569
> doubt had much influence on the ideology.
source attached
it's a 6,500 year journey. All the way back. We are "The People of the Sun" or "Sun People" because we cherish the light. They are SUMAR-ARYAN or Sub-Aryan aka: Untermensch to our Ubermensch.
Every one of us knows the love in our heart. "I can only fight for what I Love."
They don't fight for love. Their God doesn't know love.
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1c4bc1 No.13587
>>13572
German NSDAP 25 demands.
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79849c No.13588
>>13584
>source
>a BOOK written in 2010
No, dipshit.I want to see evidence that Zoroastrianism influenced fascism back in WW1 (or at the very least the 1930's). Books are notoriously bad at being sources in their own right. I could write a book and get it published. I could go full Depak Chopra and make retarded claims about quantum mechanics supporting the idea that your feelings dictate reality. That's retarded, of course, but there's a track record of morons buying into that shit left and right. The highest level of citation is that which exists in peer reviewed literature.
>inb4 peer review is kiked
If the peer review system is willing to publish works on how niggers are 55x as likely to carry a gene variant that leads to aggression at least 10 times, I'm willing to trust it.
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af78eb No.13595
>>13565
To better understand Fascism, look to Nature.
Natural World Order when, lads?
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1c4bc1 No.13596
>>13588(heil)
>I want a peer reviewed study on an ideal
>I want evidence
>I can't see a fucking eagle when I look at an eagle and an eagle again because evidence is something written, not seen
<(((you)))
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8c3042 No.13598
>>13588
>oy vey the goyim know
You kikes went from read a book to dont read books at all.
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435a6c No.13688
>>13588
>>13598
>If the peer review system is willing to publish works on how niggers are 55x as likely to carry a gene variant that leads to aggression at least 10 times, I'm willing to trust it.
I assume that you're referring to the 2-repeat allele of the MAO-A gene? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24326626 If so, I've never heard of the "55x" figure, but I don't doubt it. It's like they thought the layman goyim would never read stuff on PubMed.
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2ef42e No.13690
>>13565
That looks like a very impractical weapon.
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ff1b37 No.13725
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79849c No.13778
>>13688
>, I've never heard of the "55x" figure
the 2r allele exists in 0.1% of whites and 5.5% of blacks. That's where the figure's coming from.
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79849c No.13779
>>13596
I don't demand peer review in this case. I would just like to see some influential fascist in the ideology's formative years saying Zoroastrianism had any tangible impact on its tenets.
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754db7 No.13838
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1c4bc1 No.13945
>>13779
>I would just like to see some influential fascist in the ideology's formative years saying Zoroastrianism had any tangible impact on its tenets.
Well then, lets talk next year.
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0045f7 No.13957
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0045f7 No.13958
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6548c5 No.14045
Fascism was a political and moral movement at its origins.
It understood and championed politics as a training ground for self-sacrifice in the name of an idea, one which would provide individuals with a reason for being, freedom, and all their basic rights.
This idea is patriotism.
Patriotism and the fatherland represents a distinct and singular embodiment of a civilization's traditions (classic European) which, far from withering as a dead memory of the past, assumes the form of a personality focussed on the end towards which it strives.
The fatherland is, thus, a mission rather than a just a place on a map.
Fascism is the opposition to the effects of Liberalism thus it fights politics based on basic passions and instincts, which bring about social disintegration, moral degeneration and a self-centered mindless spirit of rebellion against all forms of law and order.
Fascism denounces first and foremost those politicians whose liberalism is of the amoral and anti-national kind that only pays heed to outward freedoms and irrational, emotions based, politics.
This fatherland represents a moral philosophy of life, marked by self sacrifice; it does not separate theory from practice, saying from doing; it does not propose utterly unrealistic ideals that change nothing in everyday life; instead it guides the individuals trough practical actions which ought to bring forward the best of themselves and the nation.
The fatherland is a daunting effort to idealise life both in the strength of youth and in the wisdom of the elderly.
Fascism is predicted on the basis of realism and it claims that repeatability of experience gives proof of a basis, which transcends and outruns our perceptions. Fascism is in antithesis of the idea that everything is relative to the perception of the individual and believes most truths to be absolute rather than subjective.
Religiously fascism is fundamentally agnostic yet it champions the essential Christian values as an inextricable aspect of the fatherland's identity; therefore fascism, while it can't be considered fundamentally Christian, it can be described as culturally Christian.
Economically fascism is the matrimony of the state and private enterprise under the Fatherland's mission.
The state and the corporations ought to be servants to the Fatherland, therefore the state will aid the private enterprise to its best capacity as long as it stays true to the betterment of the fatherland; reciprocally the private enterprise will, in respect of the Fatherland's mission, support the improvement of the state and it's society.
A fascist corporation final objective is the to be a positive entity for the Fatherland and it's population.
(This can be achieved in a number of ways, most commonly by producing a large taxable revenue stream, hiring a large workforce, producing goods that reduce the nation's dependency on imported products or raw materials.
The state will actively support enterprises that align themselves with the Fatherland, this support can exemplified by: public works that reduce logistic costs for the enterprise, public education systems that train individuals in the skills required by the enterprise,the aquisition of new sources of raw materials, economic protectionism for key industries. Private enterprises that are seen a not beneficial to the state and it's people do not receive active government support.)
The fascist state strives to create the conditions that allow a sudden implementation of autarchy in order to reduce political leverage trough economic actions from trading partners.
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435a6c No.14081
>>13958
Interesting. Although, some libshit will probably say that that's only two studies, and will ask for a meta-analysis of multiple studies to confirm this. Also, I wonder what the differences in allele frequencies are between White and Hispanic (particularly Mestizo) populations? Another thing to consider is if Whites who engage in race mixing also carry the 2-repeat allele? It is antisocial behavior, after all.
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232da3 No.14110
>>14081
Their color tells you all you need to know about them. They're evil, deformed creatures.>>14081
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435a6c No.14115
>>14110
I know. I went to a school full of them. :/ There were the rare few that head their heads on straight, but that was always a small minority.
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3196c1 No.14132
Fascism is hierarchy, nationalism, and above all else a political ideology that intends to protect and put first the race.
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2c22ca No.14389
>>13587
Hold up.
Was NSDAP really Fascist? Serious question.
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2c22ca No.14392
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000000 No.16442
The only true Fascism is the original Italian Fascism.
Read the works of Gentile and Mussolini to truly understand it, and ignore Anglo perversions of the original ideas.
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17dfb1 No.16521
>>13565
>QTDDTOT
>retarded faggot who can’t open a book
Remember to sage and report.
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418d0f No.19032
Hey guys, We must allow the left to dictate who we are and ignore 3000 years of European History and Identity. We are nothing but fascists! we are Fascists! hehe haha…………
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418d0f No.19035
Fuck race, embrace Fascism. Embrace National Socialism… Fuck race.
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18aa3b No.19316
Europeans do not require 'government' that is for the subhuman masses.
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c11959 No.19704
>>14389
Yes, it always was.
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c11959 No.19706
>>19035
Your message is in conflict with itself, to embrace either you must embrace race.
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7711b0 No.26796
>>19706
To be fair although the person who you are replying too is most likely a shill. It is technically true they’re some forms of Fascism that don’t necessarily focus on race. Mussolini was essentially a Roman irredentist and colonialist and wanted to have former Roman territory in North Africa and make Italy a contending European colonial power to rival that of France and Britain. There’s also the Romanian Iron guard which are essentially Christian Fascists. Also Integralism from Brazil which is just really mutt Fascism who just recently bombed the studio that made that gay Jesus film for (((Netflix))).
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5cda62 No.26797
>>19035
Only Germans can be National Socialists. The other races are too parasitic. I am not sure you are understanding the importance of DNA in engineering civilization. At any rate, either way Europeans don't 'need' government…governments NEED us.
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fbbb32 No.26941
>>26796
>(((mutt)))
Interracial would've been fine, using kike doctored memes is annoying to look at tbh.
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775f2e No.27001
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83f6a6 No.27113
>>26797
what about other closely related Europeans? Italians and french people come to mind, what about the Japanese who have low crime rate and the highest IQ of all man kind?
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33f921 No.27115
>>27113
I think he means that NatSoc can only be German because it is a manifestation of their spirit,Italians,Swedes,Spaniards etc… would all manifest unique variations of NatSoc to the point that it would be something different to what it is for the Germans.
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ed26fc No.35300
>>13565
Communism is the political theory of the lower class/
Socialism is the political theory of the upper class.
Fascism is the political theory of the middle class.
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017122 No.37040
>>13565
Come in France you will see how it's like to live in a fascist country
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56935e No.37056
>>13566
>Fascism is Zooroastrism expressed politically
lol Mussolini was a tool of the roman church ffs. Collier's magazine (Morgan mouthpiece who was front for Rothschild) also spoke highly of him, tried to distance him from hitler. The fasci was simply a roman symbol being reanimated to make the italians believe in a "new roman empire" type deal. "Mighty faggot" etc.
Most of the shit people think about ww2 was not even the way it was
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c11959 No.38365
>>37040
you mean communist, France is not currently fascist, it's closer to being an islamic theocracy than it is facism.
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73982e No.38366
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6f57cd No.38388
>>14045
>Religiously fascism is fundamentally agnostic yet it champions the essential Christian values
absolute bs
christian values are the antithesis of fascism
the fascist values you find in christianity predate christianity
typical christian values are that of the quantity, of slave morality, of pathos and denial of biological reality
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6f57cd No.38392
>>14389
you can say natsoc is fascism with a stronger expression for race realism and overall management of the economy
some might say there's too much statism involved but it's necessary when considering what the people are facing as they and their culture, economy, way of life, environment, faith, etc., need to be protected by a larger entity
ideally this entity would combine secular and meaningful religious powers that go beyond the mere abuse of symbolism and pretense of posers
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6f57cd No.38393
>>19316
>no government at all
go live in da savana nigger
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355895 No.38457
It’s subservience to an all-powerful state. It’s the end of the pain of autonomy. It’s the ultimate dream of all slaves. It’s the replacement of all true bonding between people with submission to the state, and forever after a balm to those who are capable of only fake kinship. Fascism is the answer sought by men too weak to live in this world; it is the dream that spares them from suicide.
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39e65b No.38464
>>38457
>please read my hollywood leftist definition of fascism
<not excessive at all
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c11959 No.38507
>>38457
You really do not understand fascism at all then and do not understand (presuming you are american) your own fucking history.
First; Who were the original fascists?
Thats right, the Roman Republic and later Empire!
Surprisingly enough, if you read enough of their existing material, it becomes obvious that so were the men who founded our republic. a Republic which was so great that we attracted Europeans of all stripes who wanted to share in the glory, before it was subverted. They had read and understood a great array of ancient philosophers and understood blood and soil so deeply, and thought it so obvious, that they didn't mention it, and only mentioned the conclusions based upon those two exemplary ideals. They knew from ancient wisdom how to build a government from that and they chose to model it closely on the Roman Republic but to improve upon it and so far as I have discovered left only one feature out, the office of Dictator. They built what they built to encourage not only a "true bond" as you say but also self-sufficiency, and independence but underscored with a deep sense of nationalism and depending upon the moral strength and fiber of the men living and ruling and taking part in the running of the republic with no submission to a State required. All of those things worked for us brilliantly, but sadly they couldn't remove the niggers, because the south was too dependent upon it and they wanted to. Niggers are the crack upon which kikery manifested and drove the first wedge between the people of this republic, we were weakened for a time, but the rift ultimately disappeared and so the bond between us, and the moral fiber upon which it stood, that which they depended upon still remained strong. Until the time of our grandparents and parents, the dreaded boomers, decided to fuck it all up and sell us all down the river for their own comfort and security in old age. Fascism is the only way we move forward, technologically culturally, spiritually. To describe it as you do, is so false, and such fucking bullshit that I can only conclude you are a jew.
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985c19 No.38540
>>38507
The men who founded the united states were clearly libertarian minarchists. The evidence is all over the constitution, in the way they constantly limited power, especially executive power which they distrusted most of all. And they certainly werent nationalist, each man had mor loyalty to his own state than the central government, and the articles of confederation is proof of that. The first draft of the government granted unlimited authority to the state. Only a few people like Alexander Hamilton could maybe be considered fascist. They wanted a king just they wanted to be king instead of George, and honestly fuck those traitors to the revolution. Stop projecting your own worldview where it does not belong
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ec3dcb No.38584
>>38457
No one cares what you say, paid shill.
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c11959 No.38753
>>38540
I don't know maybe many of the signers were as you describe but the ones most commonly bandied about and who had the most influence were fascist. I think for many reasons that they were fascist and they were not libertarians they believed, correctly with the information they had then, that liberty, or letting people organize themselves and decide their own fate was the best choice. They were minarchists because while government can be good it is often not and too much of it, which we have today in spades all over the world, makes for tyranny far too easily. What they were is compatible with facism even as it stands today, despite what most seem to think.The flaws in the government and social cohesion, many they were aware of, like niggers still being were simply a consequence of circumstance forcing them to let some things be and of being men that saw self sufficiency and personal responsibility were common in their day and their too idealistic thought that it would never change. America was largely Nationalist and arguably very fascist just not the most modern kind more they formed the basis of that thought in the world, and one of its oldest symbols is the fasces. We can disagree there is enough evidence to point to either side of this discussion.
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5d3bf7 No.63322
Fascism is the only viable form of political organization.
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2df806 No.63608
Fascism aims to reduce the divide between classes while still honoring the hierarchical qualities of those classes. No one is poorer and X and no one is richer than Y.
Personal initiative and drive are encouraged and incentivized.
It aims to get rid of vulture capitalism (payday loan companies wouldn't exist) and communism/socialism (your labor won't prop up the leech class).
What's good for the people is good for the state. What's good for the state is good for the people.
Profit is not the main motivator. One's drive to remain productive would be buoyed by their desire to make the nation and it's people better.
Cut-throat business practices that knowingly kill competition will be intervened upon. Corporatism aims to keep corporations in check, not jump into bed with them.
Private initiative that aims to work against the public interest will be prevented to the utmost.
Instills moral superiority and clean living. Fascism fights degeneration.
Just my two cents.
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6644b4 No.63911
>>63608
fuckin bravo anon!
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a006c9 No.63959
>>63608
fuckin bravo anon! [2]
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9492b5 No.63991
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9492b5 No.63992
>>63911
>>63608
>>63959
You didn't state the cause, you only stated obvious aspects of the action but not the faith.
Well you did but not directly.
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fcf069 No.84677
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61ad38 No.85333
>>13566
bruh fascism is the expression of roman ideals
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7424b1 No.88188
>>84677
CT looking haggard. It's a good look on him.
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014637 No.88194
>>38753
What are some good sources if one were to want to research Platonism. What do I need for a good philosophical base?
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c11959 No.88223
>>88194
I'm fairly new at this myself, so I don't know much to guide you I'm afraid a search of the web, there have to be places dedicated to it you would not be out of order in trying to find resources using any number of search engines and could always read Plato and see if you can find resources on those who followed him both around his time and later, I'm only just starting to read Evola and so on, never even touched most of the classics, just know some history and how to do research and learning more everyday.
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38710c No.88254
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3ad1bc No.88275
>>85333
Even more so then since based Hadrian made God abandon the jews back in 135AD.
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2a5844 No.88300
>>13565
you must of not tried very hard or read much about the subject if you just think people only have a "feel" for it.there are documents regarding fascist positions on all aspects of life written by the fascists themselves.
heres a link to the doctrine of fascism by Mussolini himself. stop being a nigger and read.
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm
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2a5844 No.88302
>>13565
id also like to add that fascims aesthetic was directed towards the italian because of their cultural connection to rome. you are obviously a non italian.i suggest you find something stemming from your own culture to embrace.
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7e04fa No.88386
Gonna repost what I posted in the other thread:
Fascism is admirable but incorrect. Fascism, in lockstep with modern neoliberal globohomo, seeks state power as an end unto itself. Indeed, Fascism claims that it is the state that creates the Folk, not the other way around. Mussolini himself famously declared in 1922 that biological racism is a "myth," and followed it up in 1936 by attempting to "integrate" and "uplift" Ethiopians into his multi-racial empire (see Fascetta Nera for a great example of multiracial Fascist propaganda.)
This stands in stark opposition to the beautiful organic Truth of National Socialism. In NS, power is given BY the Folk TO the state, not the other way around. The state exists ONLY to serve, protect and advance the Folk. If it has failed in this, it is the obligation of every citizen to remove and reform the state as it is now a burdensome cancer upon the Folk's future.
IMO, Mussolini took away the worst parts of the Roman Empire: the trappings of state and empire. He would have quickly reaped the same results, namely degeneration of the stock. For it was not Rome's bureaucratic power that got it to where it was: their success was built off racial loyalty, rigid traditions and a spirit of heroic sacrifice.
For this reason I think fascism is just as dangerous - if not MORE dangerous - than the current system for the Folk. At least we are currently allowed dissent. Fascism, with it's Chinese-tier obsession with stability, would not even give you this pittance.
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7b6972 No.88506
>>88300
>>88302
>>88386
Thank you for correcting the Americans.
Now I don't have to do it :)
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7424b1 No.88523
>>88300
I don't understand your Eurotrash smarminess. He was asking questions. Formulating ideas from those questions. Wanted aid in his journey.
You had to be fucking edgy though.
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7424b1 No.88524
>>88386
There are a lot of forms of Fascism and nowhere did the OP mention Italian Fascism. Seems a lot of you turds have a weird boner for Italian Fascism anytime fascism is mentioned.
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765bb9 No.88525
>>88386
>allowed dissent
>allowed to be spied on and not allowed to be racist
You are never allowed freedoms, ever.
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7424b1 No.88545
>>88386
>allowed dissent
Ask the Strassers how they felt about Hitlers führerprinzip and their own form of dissent. You weren't allowed dissent in NS either.
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f8419a No.88623
>>19032
Ok, so monarchy?
>>19035
National socialism is just fascism pertaining to a specific racial group. How did you get here, retard? Racial preservation is integral to tradition which is integral to the state. The state is the unified protecting and serving body of the people.
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a4f2cf No.88935
>>88545
The entire affair was a disaster start to finish.
SA for being unlikeable homos, including not banning Röhm when it became public
Hitler for swallowing Mussolini's bait and purging his own paramilitary, forcing him to cuck to Junkers/Krupp/etc.
And of course the Strassers for being autistic nazbols
>>88524
What else is there? Falangism? Cool but not anything to write home about. Portugal's Estado Novo? A horrible multiracial meme empire failure, like Italy, like our current states. Brazil's Integralism? Even worse, an unmitigated disaster in state mandated muttification that destroyed the last shreds of Brazilian purity for most provinces except the south.
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a4f2cf No.88976
>>88545
>führerprinzip
Great in theory, needs significant flexibility in reality (SS devolution of command authority, as an example)
Though the idea is to build a state for your nation in such a way that there would be no reason to dissent against.
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d5b9cc No.96137
>>88935
IMHO Italian Futurism has some promise, if for no other reason than to balance out the ecofash/anprim people.
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f3a173 No.107383
>>88194
>>88223
Begin with Plato’s works, they make up the core of neoplatonism and are necessary for understanding later platonists.
Part 1: The trial and death of Socrates
1. Meno - A discussion on virtue, this should introduce you to who socrates was, how he argues, and the first formulations of “the forms” and the soul.
2. Euthyphro - Socrates meets a friend before his trial, they discuss what it means to be pious to the gods. They discuss ethical questions regarding murder and family loyalty.
3. Apology - Socrates is put on trial by characters previously seen in Meno. He defends himself and his philosophy/practice to the athenian public/court.
4. Crito - Socrates is convicted and in prison, his friends offer to break him out. Socrates refuses and offers moral and mystical explanations as to why he should face execution despite being innocent.
5. Phaedo - The death of Socrates. In his final moments, his friends crowd around him as he has chosen to kill himself with poison. He explains a deep reasoning for his lack of fear of death. Further explanations of the soul, reincarnation, the realm of the ideal, and more.
Part 2: Fleshing out the virtues
1. The Symposium - Socrates attends a party with some friends, they discuss the meaning of love. From lust, to love, to the love of the gods. Socrates makes an argument for the love of the gods being most important.
1a. Phaedrus - A discussion on erotic love and reincarnation
1b. The Lovers - Not explicitly known to be written by Plato himself or by a platonist after him, it is a short dialogue about knowledge and virtue that you may enjoy. Not necessary reading, but a personal favorite.
2. Laches - A discussion on what it means to be courageous
3. Charmides - Discussion on virtue and what guides it, temperance and self control
4. Gorgias - Discussion on rhetoric and sophistry and its morality.
5. Protagoras - an argument about whether virtue can be taught
Part 3: Overarching platonic theory comes together
1. The Republic - An entire book dedicated to answering the question of “What is Justice?”, this includes the allegory of the cave which acts as a metaphor for the theory of the forms and the realm of the ideal.
2. Timaeus - An explanation of the physical world and the metaphysical world
2a. Critias - An extension of timaeus, kinda talks too much about atlantis. Read if interested.
3. Parmenides - the introduction of “the one”. This is the fucking big boy, if you made it this far you no longer need this guide.
You can now move on to Plotinus, Plutarch, and other neoplatonists. If you struggle with Parmenides then skip to Plotinus’ chapter of the Ennead titled “on beauty” before revisiting Parmenides. The ennead is a massive treatise on “the one” and is the groundwork for everything that christianity steals and incorporates into their religion.
Recommended fascist/traditionalist reading that ties into neo-platonism:
Carl Schmitt’s Concept of the Political and Political Theology
Julius Evola’s Revolt and Ride the Tiger
Rene Guenon if you like memes
Alaine De Benoist’s works, specifically “Gemeinschaft and Gesselschaft: A sociological view of the decay of modern society
If you or anyone wants to contact me to discuss neoplatonic/fascist or really any philosophy or political theory then email me here:
CarpusofAntioch@gmail
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e33e08 No.107606
I am trying to understand the Nazi concept of lebenstraum or "living space" but am finding it difficult to understand or put into context.
Are there any good native English works on this?
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b1d5d0 No.107669
The origins and doctrines of Facism by Giovanni Gentile
Economic Foundations of Fascism
Fascism and the doctrine of National Socialism
Cultured Thug has several intro videos between his YT and Bitchute
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFVf_ACP5I8VF5VsmSDQ8tQ/videos
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ct_rants/
Enjoy! 3rd position is the way!
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b1d5d0 No.107670
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b1d5d0 No.107682
Re: DC.
ever wonder why the house of representatives have fasces on the wall?
seems like a masonic, enlightenment-philosophy espousing, merchant class wanted to build a pre-Christian Rome. the 1st amendment is a response to the original WASP colonists who had started to build the colonies in 1550 and the south in 1600. they were telling these WASPs that they were not to limit their speech (subversion) or establish a state religion. they were masons, papists, and in ben franklin's case hellfire club members (sex club)
the builders of DC had papal sponsorship and built all of the Vatican symbols (most from ancient babylon) into DC. see the secret architecture of our nations capital* they were always Romanists (secular humanists, and military imperialists, globalists, slavers) their need to conquer and subdue was first clearly seen in the civil war. the point of this was to make states subordinate to the empire by redefining American citizenship. the 14th amendment changed men from freemen and state citizens, to serfs and US citizens. the 14th amendment is a cornerstone for empire America, all of the reconstruction era amendments and civil rights amendments are based on this.
the 1913 fed reserve act is when the tax yoke came down heavy. the federal reserve lends the US money at interest (which you citizen must pay back every year on april 15th) thus enslaving it to the IMF, because this is impossible to pay back.
then ww1 and ww2 destroyed European nationalism. the winner of these wars, were the ruling classes (neoliberal romanists, NWO globalists, slavers) and the losers were the people of both the allied and axis nations.
then came forced integration 1957. then civil rights and hart-cellar. diversity is the ruling classes greatest strength. with diversity, it is impossible for a citizenry to unify, militarize, and dethrone the ruling class. it also causes the violent crime that "justifies" their police state. it "justifies the technocratic surveillance state and the erosion of your rights.
the goal was always to rule you, not to lead you. the white house is a plantation, and america is a war machine. wall street is the engine. you are a serf that is fleeced for taxes, while your sons are conscripted, or volunteer, for imperialist wars to build this world wide empire (NWO)
rome never lost its power, the power families just left and went on to run france, germany, britain, america
the story of how jews took over the vatican, and then masonry, which is how they came to power in america (along with the long march through the institutions) is another story. but this is where we are.
they use fascism for themselves, but egalitarian neo-liberalism for us. that's why they have a fasces in the house of representatives, but enforce egalitarianism on us.
WE must form our own people's fascism to take them on. not by brute force, but by shutting down the system WE run. WE can starve them out. it's a large task, but it's that or getting mouse utopia'd to death.
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1174e2 No.108162
>>108011
Those are actually very interesting articles, and extremely insightful as well. Though as a history student, I do feel slighted by some of his simplifications.
I don't think fascism is dead though, and if you take a look in the Brill journals, the 2019 issue 1 also has an interesting article on Mussolinis prediction of a fascist century.
I think there's an interesting point to be made about the ideological spirit needed to carry an ideology to fruitition. Fascism was defeated materially, it's armies destroyed and it's nations occupied. But it was the spiritual rejuvenation and renewed confidence in liberal democracy that has put it to rest in a shallow grave.
And these days, liberal democracy is experiencing a second crisis. Something conservative thinkers like Douglas Murray has figured out. The West has lost its luster and goal, communism is defeated, capitalism has run amok for the past 30 years and now the world is fundamentally changing again, like it did between 1900 and 1920.
The question really is, what kind of form does the alt-right / fascist / NatSoc answer to this upcoming crisis in confidence take?
The left is losing because they insist on the same old formula, which has been soundly defeated in the fall of the USSR. And now natalist and protectionist politics are rejuvenating the right, changing it fundamentally.
I definitely think the grave they dug for fascism is too shallow to keep it dead. I think it'll come back soon, as the world approaches the crisis that'll pose an existential threat to the liberal democratic order.
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90b64c No.108182
>>108011
>reddit spacing
You can't kill an idea, jewish prostitute.
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0ef109 No.108197
>>13690
maybe you can hold it by the straps, and swing it around in front of you. would explain the shape of the blade.
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fcf069 No.108457
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cd677e No.108490
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a2e419 No.108504
Fascism is admirable but incorrect. Fascism, in lockstep with modern neoliberal globohomo, seeks state power as an end unto itself. Indeed, Fascism claims that it is the state that creates the Folk, not the other way around. Mussolini himself famously declared in 1932 that biological racism is a "myth," and followed it up in 1936 by attempting to "integrate" and "uplift" Ethiopians into his multi-racial empire (see Fascetta Nera for a great example of multiracial Fascist propaganda.)
This stands in stark opposition to the beautiful organic Truth of National Socialism. In NS, power is given BY the Folk TO the state, not the other way around. The state exists ONLY to serve, protect and advance the Folk. If it has failed in this, it is the obligation of every citizen to remove and reform the state as it is now a burdensome cancer upon the Folk's future.
IMO, Mussolini took away the worst parts of the Roman Empire: the trappings of state and empire. He would have quickly reaped the same results, namely degeneration of the stock. For it was not Rome's bureaucratic power that got it to where it was: their success was built off racial loyalty, rigid traditions and a spirit of heroic sacrifice.
For this reason I think fascism is just as dangerous - if not MORE dangerous - than the current system for the Folk. At least we are currently allowed dissent. Fascism, with it's Chinese-tier obsession with stability, would not even give you this pittance.
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0fca64 No.108505
Fascism is admirable but incorrect. Fascism, in lockstep with modern neoliberal globohomo, seeks state power as an end unto itself. Indeed, Fascism claims that it is the state that creates the Folk, not the other way around. Mussolini himself famously declared in 1932 that biological racism is a "myth," and followed it up in 1936 by attempting to "integrate" and "uplift" Ethiopians into his multi-racial empire (see Fascetta Nera for a great example of multiracial Fascist propaganda.)
This stands in stark opposition to the beautiful organic Truth of National Socialism. In NS, power is given BY the Folk TO the state, not the other way around. The state exists ONLY to serve, protect and advance the Folk. If it has failed in this, it is the obligation of every citizen to remove and reform the state as it is now a burdensome cancer upon the Folk's future.
IMO, Mussolini took away the worst parts of the Roman Empire: the trappings of state and empire. He would have quickly reaped the same results, namely degeneration of the stock. For it was not Rome's bureaucratic power that got it to where it was: their success was built off racial loyalty, rigid traditions and a spirit of heroic sacrifice.
For this reason I think fascism is just as dangerous - if not MORE dangerous - than the current system for the Folk. At least we are currently allowed dissent. Fascism, with it's Chinese-tier obsession with stability, would not even give you this pittance.
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b3e41b No.108511
>>108504
>>108505
Sorry for the double post everyone. This site is great! I especially love the fact that most nodes are permabanned!
Keep it up jannies!
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8894cf No.108601
>>108162
>Douglas Murray
This mother fucker really just mentioned Douglas Murray as a "conservative thinker" in a conversation about fascism. Fuck man this board is joke.
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1174e2 No.108743
>>108601
Are you trying to insinuate that Douglas Murray is in fact not a mainstream conservative thinker? Perhaps you're the grand poobah of conservatism? Or maybe you should stuff some extra cocks into your piehole and shut the fuck up when the grown ups are talking.
My point isn't that Douglas Murray is an authority on fascism, but that he is a mainstream political thinker who has openly proclaimed that the west is morally and intellectually bankrupt and has run out of ideas and a mission.
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64c34e No.131722
Fascism is the only form of government that works and when everything is said and done, the only one that will remain.
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64c34e No.131756
>>131731
>daddy issues: the post
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0a1d1e No.131786
>>13565
> there any rigorous definition of the term aside from kiked sources like wikipedia/dictionaries?
Try reading a book some time OP. That's where people got their information from before (((the internet))).
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29012a No.131968
As we survey the whole scene in Italy, therefore, we may now name all the essential ingredients of fascism. It is a form of social organization
1. In which the government acknowledges no restraint upon its powers—totalitarianism.
2. In which this unrestrained government is managed by a dictator—the leadership principle.
3. In which the government is organized to operate the capitalist system and enable it to function-under an immense bureaucracy.
4. In which the economic society is organized on the syndicalist model, that is by producing groups formed into craft and professional categories under supervision of the state.
5. In which the government and the syndicalist organizations operate the capitalist society on the planned, autarchial principle.
6. In which the government holds itself responsible to provide the nation with adequate purchasing power by public spending and borrowing.
7. In which militarism is used as a conscious mechanism of government spending, and
8. In which imperialism is included as a policy inevitably flowing from militarism as well as other elements of fascism.
Flynn, John T.. As We Go Marching (LvMI) . Ludwig von Mises Institute. Kindle Edition.
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b1d457 No.131976
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e0988e No.131992
>>14132
>that intends to protect and put first the race
>race
The nazi's chose race, Romans chose lineage, Pakistan chose religion
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c11959 No.137210
>>107383
What about Aristotle?
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df2c05 No.137281
>>27001
Exemplary post. Thanks for this.
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a45745 No.138733
>>13569
>Buddhism and Hinduism have better right to claim to have influenced it.
Hey? Buddhism is literally "do nuffin and hate the world bro to get outta circus bro".
Fascism is 200% kshatriya fueled for pure testosterone-based action with the luminous guidance of Ur-Brah.
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a45745 No.138736
>>131992
>Romans chose lineage
Pastas chose the state, with everything under it as a convenient banner. They barely managed to get the race thing into it when it was on its last legs.
In fact, Italian fascism was like hardcore CivNat, with more Duce and less Jews (perhaps).
White Fascism that focuses on the white race is the way.
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22ebb6 No.146550
>>38388
>When you read too much Nietzsche and not enough Scripture.
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ee1b76 No.146747
>>13583
Fucking hell this is a hell of a speech!
Is there a transcript or do I have to make my own, I bet with a little updating you could make these modern lefty flyers and give them to black lives matter and antifa faggots and they'd say, yes, yes, yes, absolutley! He's completely right! and then add a qrc code or something for more, once they open it they'll be facing mosely and other fascist thinkers.
I'd be willing to do this, maybe add some of Hitler on international finance and the exploitation of the lower classes.
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bb3928 No.146886
>>13566
>Fascism honors virtue
Ok
>I benefit without violence
wtf, no
Fascism uses violence in and out of war. The main benefit of a fascist economy is high military spending.
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bb3928 No.146887
>>38457
This
Libertarianism is not Anarcho-Capitalism
Fascism is ultimate control of a state and it only worked for Hitler who killed most of his competition to focus on a decent plan for Germany.
Fascism results in the same issues as communism
Jews fucking materbate every night over the idea of being in charge of a fascist state
You have the same fucking social issues with mind-think and if you dont think that will be abused you are nuts
We need something moderate. Anything else will come to power then fall 40 years later then that will fall 30 years later ….. do people think Rome turned into Italy overnight? Honestly if Hitler won the war it could have fractured like Alexander the Great's conquest but take a couple decades longer. The ethno lines were already drawn.
No, for true peace, prosperity, success you need real freedom. Not this fake Jew finance controlled stuff.
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69ac95 No.146896
>>146887
>No, for true peace, prosperity, success you need real freedom.
Empty platitudes. In 40 years you'll be owned by China and a handful of self-serving psychopaths like Jeff Bezos and you have nothing to blame for that but freedom.
Freedom is just another name for anarchy and chaos.
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69ac95 No.146914
>>146887
>Jews fucking materbate every night over the idea of being in charge of a fascist state
This is the dumbest shit I've seen around here in a long time. If the jews who own you wanted fascism they wouldn't have agitated for and started a world war against it and then proceeded to spend almost a century manufacturing daily propaganda from cradle to grave against it.
If the jews who own you wanted fascism they wouldn't pay, protect and instruct useful idiots called "anti-fascists".
If the jews who own you wanted fascism they would just have it because you and your individualistic freedom bullshit are such an ineffective, paralysis inducing, cowardly ideology that jews can just do whatever the fuck they want and you would never do anything about it. You have literally paid them over 200 billion dollars in tribute to their homeland and most people don't even talk about the fact that they turned you into their bitch and extract yearly tribute from you like you're their colony or something.
Libertarianism and other individualistic/freedom based ideologies are the clown of political ideologies, it only exists to be laughed at by people who actually understand what's going on and to distract retards who don't know any better.
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01dcee No.146973
The merging of government and private Industry. It's like a weird mix between communism (government ownership of all assets) and Capitalism (private ownership of assets). The government basically picks winners and losers in a fascist nation. If they are on your side YOU. CAN'T. LOSE. if they are neutral or against you then you will never ever have a chance. If you make it anyway then you will instantly get sucked into the Gov picking you as the winner or loser. If you fight them they will pick your competitor. It's that simple. A fascists pro-White pro-European government will place White interests above others.
It is arguable that the US is a fascist nation NOW. The group that is being picked as the winner is the jews. Secondly the niggers and Mexicans and Chinese. If you think of it this way then you will know what Fascism is because you can see it right before you as you stand out in the cold and look in…
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3a5119 No.146995
>>146973
You're just regurgitating a common jewish definition of fascism that tries to portray fascism as an economic system. Fascism is not an economic system, though. It's a political ideology.
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