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86975e No.3283

would it be incorrect to define these 'gender is a social construct' people as gender nihilists?

86975e No.3284

The pronoun pc crowd might be dumb, but I am for allowing crossdressing to become acceptable. I am tired of boring fashions for men and seeing poorly dressed men. Goddamn hideous shirts and baggy jeans women rejected are what it means to identify as a male. There is much less room to customize oneself, or project a self-image for men.


86975e No.3288

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>>3283

These faggots are mostly made up of teenagers on tumblr and Deviant Art. Hoping to god they stay far away from philosophy. It's one thing to be a non-conformist in a sincere way, but another to just jump on another bandwagon that really only exists to be edgy

>gender nihilists

i really hope this doesn't exist


86975e No.3289

>>3288

trannys exist anon. ive seen one in alabama, of all fucking places.

>gender nihilists

i cant imagine that the term exists outside of this thread, but how else would yu describe these wackos who espose 'x is a social construct, therefore meaningless' ? that sounds like, in my extremely limited knowledge of, nihilism to me.

>>3284

whats stopping you from wearing a suit other than yourself?


86975e No.3290

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>>3289

Everyone wears a suit, even women, and the most popular colors are black and grey - muted colors really. There is not much room for individuality there for men. At least women can spice up their suits a bit.


86975e No.3291

>>3289

> that sounds like, in my extremely limited knowledge of, nihilism to me.

Well the whole social construct meme is something that I've only been hearing at the start of the 21st century. I don't really see how it fits in with nihilism. They seem separate in my opinion. Nihilism can be interpreted by the Far Left and Right Wing.

These social construct shenanigans seem like something that would fit into Stirners philosophy, or radical individualism.


86975e No.3292

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>>3290

There needs to be some kind of fucking pattern to this shit

A kind of code


86975e No.3293

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>>3291

> I don't really see how it fits in with nihilism.

that might be because im going off of the wikipedo definition ( i reiterate my lack of knowledge on nihilisim). the social construct phrase implies that whatever they are applying the phrase to has no intrinsic value due to their contrived nature. that jives with the wikipedo definition to me, but im probably not explaining myself very well.

>>3290

u w8 m8, pic related jesus christ that potatoshop


86975e No.3294

>>3283

When using the very simplified definition of the rejection of something typically 'meaningful', you might have a point depending on the definition of gender. But overall, no. They are not gender nihilists, and a vast majority of these people actually put significantly more meaning on gender than so-called cis people would.

This is obvious for people who feel gender-related body dysphoria (whether they identify as trans or not) and makes perfect sense. They are basically forced to consider the notion of gender stronger than people without dysphoria do, making them seem more focused on the topic and bestowing it with a lot more significance than it perhaps deserves. I'm not going to criticise them for that.

It's less obvious for all the rest - a majority, to be sure - who literally only talk about 'identification' as though they can change the meaning of a descriptive word to a normative one just like that. Gender, to them, is a construct because they mostly only mean attributes that are linked to biological sex (and are indeed, more often than not, arbitrary). But instead of making that distinction clear or at least rejecting outdated or inapplicable stereotypes, these people make the ludicrous leap of denying the descriptive aspect of gender entirely. Now, 'man' and 'woman' are terms to be used so loosely that they mean basically nothing. Not because they dismiss the importance of gender (as an asexual I would feel a lot more sympathetic to that notion, tbh) but precicely because they deem it so important that the descriptive 'restrictions' need to go in order to allow for personal comfort when self-labelling. It is a ludicrous thought-process that actually does more harm than good on almost any front, including the plights of dysphoric people.

Basically, if they were "gender nihilists", they would actually make more sense.


86975e No.3296

>>3294

well, i cant argue with that. thanks for the insightful posts.


86975e No.3297

>>3296

*post




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