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78f2c6 No.2014

How can a hedonist society survive, is it possible?

78f2c6 No.2015

By being rationally hedonistic, just as a selfish society is rationally selfish. If your society runs on feels and myths, you get our history up to now.


78f2c6 No.2016

Hedonism, as the philosophical school, doesn't mandate 24/7 Jersey Shore debauchery, just that the maximization of pleasure and the minimization of suffering is the greatest principle. You could say that many free market advocates use hedonism as their primary justification for it.

>>2015

I gotta side with the original Romantics and the continentals that we've swung too hard in favor of reason these past few centuries.


78f2c6 No.2018

>>2016

How can you ever swing too far in favor of reason? We still aren't close t o being Vulcans, and I don't think it would be a big deal if we were.


78f2c6 No.2020

>>2018

>>2016

>reason somehow = formal logic

Reason and formal logic are not the same thing.

Indeed, you're beyond stupid if you think it's anything reasonable to want to be a formal logic computational machine lacking pretty much what makes human living so interesting.


78f2c6 No.2021

>>2020

Sounds like unwillingness to consider that we are naturally biased to want to preserve our imperfections, and pretend our inborn emotions are worth preserving.


78f2c6 No.2025

>>2021

You're taking the unreasonable position that emotions are not necessary to logic. Logic itself is mere formalism, emotions are what move us to feel or do anything at all.

A logical being is just a machine that will execute a formula that will attempt to not violate formal axioms, yet there is nothing it actually cares about. Emotions are precisely a form of natural axiom that ensures there is a very personal attachment to that logical movement.


78f2c6 No.2065

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>>2016

This. You could actually argue debauchery is suffering.

>Drugs

>Lead to addiction, are physically taxing, cost a lot of money.

>Sex

>Can often lead to loneliness, STDs, jealousy, envy, and disappointment.

If we were to try to measure pleasure for the maximum amount of people, the best thing to do would just be readily available weed, entertainment, and government ordained courting systems for companionship.




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